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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 23, 2019 3:53:34 GMT -5
I’m assuming everyone is aware that 7 rings has payola? I’m also sure that billboard is aware of that. Isn’t it an illegal practice? Shouldn’t Billboard take action on this? Payola? Is this stan twitter? Payola is the very illegal practice of paying radio stations to play a song. A radio deal =/= payola. Radio stations pay attention to the songs people want to hear (for the most part), so it’s not really surprising that they’re playing the song that’s been #1 on Spotify, Apple Music, and iTunes for the past four days. Actually, that's not how radio deals work. You (in this case, record labels) make radio deals. Radio stations don't just "play the songs people want to hear". There's a reason why new songs from certain artists that aren't necessarily performing well by any metric also get radio deals. DJ Khaled is a great example. All his singles get radio deals. Also, some radio deals even get announced BEFORE the single drops. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 23, 2019 4:01:18 GMT -5
Ariana Grande's fifth studio album, "thank u, next" will be released on February 8, 2019. It already has major hype by not only her fanbase but also the GP. If it gets promoted hard enough by Spotify and Apple Music, it has the potential to outsell Drake's album, Scorpion, which broke Spotify and AM records. The current number for most songs in the top 10 in a single week is Drake with 7. I see Ariana coming close, maybe 4 in one week. I feel like NASA, needy and break up with your girlfriend, i'm bored all the potential to get in the top 10 as well as obviously 7 rings and TUN which will probably be #1 and #2 on the week of the release. 1. 7 rings 2. thank u, next 3. Sunflower 4. Wow. 5. NASA 6. Without Me 7. needy 8. break up with your girlfriend, i'm bored 9. New Cardi B 10. Girls Like You This is exactly why people complain when you start threads. You keep saying things like this. Drake's deal with Spotify was met with a harsh reaction so don't expect Ariana to get the same treatment. She'll be massively promoted, but we'll have to wait and see. We've seen her singles do well but streaming album songs massively over an entire week is a different thing. And Drake pulled in over 730 million streams in the US in his first week. Has Ariana even pulled in 300 million streams before? And with 12 songs? Congrats on messing this thread up. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 23, 2019 4:02:28 GMT -5
We haven't even heard the songs and we're already guessing they're heading top 10. It's time to stop. This is why I like waiting for data from at least three days of the tracking week to ever speak on how well a song will perform. At least, wait to hear the song. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 23, 2019 4:05:49 GMT -5
Didn’t her last album fail to get one new song into the top 20? Yes! But that was because there was zero promo by either Spotify and AM, and we are at the peak of her career. The hype is real. Hype doesn't always equate to the level of success you expect. Remember the hype for Rihanna's ANTi era and Frank Ocean in 2016? People kept bugging Rihanna for an album like each person was gonna buy a thousand copies each. People thought Frank Ocean was gonna move a million units first week and he ended up doing 250k and a week later, it was like he never dropped an album at all. Even Drake did lower numbers that I expected (granted, he played himself by now doing a merch bundle like everyone else). |
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Post by rfucom on Jan 23, 2019 6:45:51 GMT -5
7rings really pulling spins from TUN and breathin. Breathin really collapsing.
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Post by rfucom on Jan 23, 2019 6:48:06 GMT -5
Ariana Grande's fifth studio album, "thank u, next" will be released on February 8, 2019. It already has major hype by not only her fanbase but also the GP. If it gets promoted hard enough by Spotify and Apple Music, it has the potential to outsell Drake's album, Scorpion, which broke Spotify and AM records. The current number for most songs in the top 10 in a single week is Drake with 7. I see Ariana coming close, maybe 4 in one week. I feel like NASA, needy and break up with your girlfriend, i'm bored all the potential to get in the top 10 as well as obviously 7 rings and TUN which will probably be #1 and #2 on the week of the release. 1. 7 rings 2. thank u, next 3. Sunflower 4. Wow. 5. NASA 6. Without Me 7. needy 8. break up with your girlfriend, i'm bored 9. New Cardi B 10. Girls Like You Please.. enough.. i know you're a super fan but this is too much. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jan 23, 2019 7:28:28 GMT -5
I didn’t realize Billboard was the police. When did it become their job to stop payola? Lmao
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Jan 23, 2019 9:09:24 GMT -5
kworb.net/airadio/*** = Dropped or added a format Overall AI (Top 20) - 2019/01/23 1. (=) PANIC! AT THE DISCO - High Hopes (167.879) (+0.109) 2. (=) HALSEY - Without Me (146.935) (+0.115) 3. (=) ARIANA GRANDE - thank u, next (135.292) (+0.137) 4. (=) MARSHMELLO - Happier f/Bastille (133.496) (+0.093) 5. (=) MAROON 5 - Girls Like You (105.382) (+0.013) 6. (=) ARIANA GRANDE - Breathin (104.080) (+0.138) 7. (=) BENNY BLANCO, HALSEY & KHALID - Eastside (92.817) (+0.048) 8. (=) POST MALONE & SWAE LEE - Sunflower (86.626) (+0.073) 9. (=) TRAVIS SCOTT - Sicko Mode (85.776) (+0.069) 10. (=) 5 SECONDS OF SUMMER - Youngblood (77.432) (+0.068) 11. (=) KHALID X NORMANI - Love Lies (65.759) (+0.020) 12. (=) BAD BUNNY - MIA f/Drake (65.021) (+0.050) 13. (=) THOMAS RHETT - Sixteen (62.862) (-0.005) 14. (=) POST MALONE - Better Now (62.275) (+0.011) 15. (=) DJ SNAKE/SELENA/OZUNA/CARDI B - Taki Taki (60.863) (+0.051) 16. (=) ELLIE GOULDING X DIPLO - Close To Me f/Swae Lee (60.220) (+0.067) 17. (=) KODAK BLACK - Zeze f/Travis Scott & Offset (58.743) (+0.024) 18. (=) JASON ALDEAN - Girl Like You (58.687) (+0.035) 19. (=) DAN + SHAY - Tequila (58.509) (-0.018) 20. (=) DIERKS BENTLEY - Burning Man f/Brothers Osborne (58.198) (-0.045)
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Post by lazer on Jan 23, 2019 9:17:01 GMT -5
It is just stupid how radio won't let go Girls Like You and make way for newer songs.
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Post by noober on Jan 23, 2019 9:18:56 GMT -5
kworb.net/airadio/*** = Dropped or added a format Overall AI (Top 20) - 2019/01/23 1. (=) PANIC! AT THE DISCO - High Hopes (167.879) (+0.109) 2. (=) HALSEY - Without Me (146.935) (+0.115) 3. (=) ARIANA GRANDE - thank u, next (135.292) (+0.137) 4. (=) MARSHMELLO - Happier f/Bastille (133.496) (+0.093) 5. (=) MAROON 5 - Girls Like You (105.382) (+0.013) 6. (=) ARIANA GRANDE - Breathin (104.080) (+0.138) 7. (=) BENNY BLANCO, HALSEY & KHALID - Eastside (92.817) (+0.048) 8. (=) POST MALONE & SWAE LEE - Sunflower (86.626) (+0.073) 9. (=) TRAVIS SCOTT - Sicko Mode (85.776) (+0.069) 10. (=) 5 SECONDS OF SUMMER - Youngblood (77.432) (+0.068) 11. (=) KHALID X NORMANI - Love Lies (65.759) (+0.020) 12. (=) BAD BUNNY - MIA f/Drake (65.021) (+0.050) 13. (=) THOMAS RHETT - Sixteen (62.862) (-0.005) 14. (=) POST MALONE - Better Now (62.275) (+0.011) 15. (=) DJ SNAKE/SELENA/OZUNA/CARDI B - Taki Taki (60.863) (+0.051) 16. (=) ELLIE GOULDING X DIPLO - Close To Me f/Swae Lee (60.220) (+0.067) 17. (=) KODAK BLACK - Zeze f/Travis Scott & Offset (58.743) (+0.024) 18. (=) JASON ALDEAN - Girl Like You (58.687) (+0.035) 19. (=) DAN + SHAY - Tequila (58.509) (-0.018) 20. (=) DIERKS BENTLEY - Burning Man f/Brothers Osborne (58.198) (-0.045) What happen? |
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Post by mackattack on Jan 23, 2019 9:47:10 GMT -5
Payola? Is this stan twitter? Payola is the very illegal practice of paying radio stations to play a song. A radio deal =/= payola. Radio stations pay attention to the songs people want to hear (for the most part), so it’s not really surprising that they’re playing the song that’s been #1 on Spotify, Apple Music, and iTunes for the past four days. Actually, that's not how radio deals work. You (in this case, record labels) make radio deals. Radio stations don't just "play the songs people want to hear". There's a reason why new songs from certain artists that aren't necessarily performing well by any metric also get radio deals. DJ Khaled is a great example. All his singles get radio deals. Also, some radio deals even get announced BEFORE the single drops. Nah I know what a radio deal is, and I recognize that 7 Rings has one. I’m referring to something else though. In the case of TUN for example, that song didn’t have a radio deal, nor was it ever sent to radio but stations were CHOOSING to play it based on how well it was doing on other platforms. I’m just assuming that the amount of spins that 7R is getting is a mixture of both scenarios. |
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Post by mackattack on Jan 23, 2019 9:57:43 GMT -5
There’s always so much drama on the Hot 100 threads lmao y’alls ability to get pressed over the dumbest things never fails to amaze me.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 23, 2019 10:01:38 GMT -5
mackattack I kinda get what you're saying. If Drake drops a single today, Rhythmic and Urban radio stations immediately begin playing the song because it's a Drake song and because his songs always do well on those formats. Perhaps Ariana gets the same treatment on Pop radio stations.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 23, 2019 10:07:37 GMT -5
Another radio audience recalibration? |
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Post by Xander on Jan 23, 2019 10:28:06 GMT -5
I’m assuming everyone is aware that 7 rings has payola? I’m also sure that billboard is aware of that. Isn’t it an illegal practice? Shouldn’t Billboard take action on this? Payola? Is this stan twitter? Payola is the very illegal practice of paying radio stations to play a song. A radio deal =/= payola. Radio stations pay attention to the songs people want to hear (for the most part), so it’s not really surprising that they’re playing the song that’s been #1 on Spotify, Apple Music, and iTunes for the past four days. Um, on the first day of 7 rings’ release, it got 13M+ audience...The radio deal that Ariana has ontains multiple radio stations. Ariana and her team paid for her songs to get spins. The term ‘radio deal’ is a nicer way of saying payola. |
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Post by Choco on Jan 23, 2019 10:33:35 GMT -5
The first day won't even help it on the Hot 100 next week anyways. It will lose around 9M audience on Friday because of all the extra "bought" spins it's not going to have anymore.
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Post by mackattack on Jan 23, 2019 11:23:15 GMT -5
Payola? Is this stan twitter? Payola is the very illegal practice of paying radio stations to play a song. A radio deal =/= payola. Radio stations pay attention to the songs people want to hear (for the most part), so it’s not really surprising that they’re playing the song that’s been #1 on Spotify, Apple Music, and iTunes for the past four days. Um, on the first day of 7 rings’ release, it got 13M+ audience...The radio deal that Ariana has ontains multiple radio stations. Ariana and her team paid for her songs to get spins. The term ‘radio deal’ is a nicer way of saying payola. Are you aware of what advertising is? Of course radio deals are paid for. Radio stations are allowed to play songs in exchange for money as long as the audience is made aware that it’s sponsored airtime. If a radio station was paid to play a song and they didn’t disclose that it was advertising is some way, THAT would be payola. But of course stans just use the term payola as long as any song by an artist they don’t like is doing well on radio. 13M is pretty standard for a radio deal btw. Look What You Made Me Do debuted 20M audience on its first day and I don’t remember hearing this amount of outrage. You very clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. |
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Jan 23, 2019 11:59:22 GMT -5
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Post by allow that on Jan 23, 2019 12:25:40 GMT -5
Shame on Billboard for linking the YouTube videos to both songs in that very article, and hence promoting even more streams. |
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Post by renaboss on Jan 23, 2019 12:29:36 GMT -5
Noooo.... I'm here for 7 Rings debuting at #1 but not High Hopes going down again. :(
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 23, 2019 12:34:33 GMT -5
Don’t Cry music video tomorrow midnight YAASSS Nothing like seeing Axl’s bulge when I get on my computer at work lol. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 23, 2019 12:40:10 GMT -5
The bullets for the AC/HAC/Urban AC charts at kworb are all weird/off.
The one useful thing about the R Kelly article is we get data for how songs are selling on random charts (i.e. #12 on Digital R&B Songs is 2000 sold).,
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jan 23, 2019 12:49:40 GMT -5
I really hope Post sends Stay to radio before officially ending the era and moving on. With Wow. I think he already seems to be moving on to newer stuff, but Stay deserves to smash. It doesn't deserve to be just a deep cut.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Jan 23, 2019 12:53:34 GMT -5
Shame on Billboard for linking the YouTube videos to both songs in that very article, and hence promoting even more streams. Not that sales matter that much, but I noticed 4 Celine albums that had IYA were 'reissued' this week to allow album sales Last week, when they pulled IYA, they were 'partial' albums. I figured they would do something since it's the Xmas album, which is always a seller and 3 GH collections. ARTPOP, though, is still partial. |
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Post by badrobot on Jan 23, 2019 13:24:05 GMT -5
Let's be real. "Radio deals" are payola under a different name with just enough bending of the rules for it to be legal. The difference between today and back when Payola was a scandal, is that now there is massive consolidation of radio, so you don't have to go station-by-station to bribe your way on to a playlist, you just get the massive corporation that owns thousands of stations to decide to prioritize it. Believe it or not there was a time where individual radio stations could "break" a song by being ahead of the curve and finding and playing unknown songs. (I believe that's how Everything But the Girl's "Missing" became a hit -- one station gave it a shot and got such a good response that other stations followed suit.) Now that's essentially impossible as radio is a follower, not a leader.
Fortunately the internet has changed things up for the better and created other avenues for new artists to find an audience without necessarily needing a corporate overlord on their side already.
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Post by hot100predictions on Jan 23, 2019 13:57:24 GMT -5
7 rings has a 3:1 lead over the other.
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Post by ddlz on Jan 23, 2019 16:36:02 GMT -5
I really hope Post sends Stay to radio before officially ending the era and moving on. With Wow. I think he already seems to be moving on to newer stuff, but Stay deserves to smash. It doesn't deserve to be just a deep cut. I also wanted more B&B singles, but he definitely won't be going back to B&B after Wow. The new album is right around the corner. The best we can hope for is the Grammys performance of Stay.  |
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 23, 2019 16:44:11 GMT -5
7 rings has a 3:1 lead over the other. "7R" has held up really well. Has it held up even better than "TUN" did its first week? "7R" had over 3.6 million streams on U.S. Spotify yesterday. |
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jan 23, 2019 17:07:34 GMT -5
I really hope Post sends Stay to radio before officially ending the era and moving on. With Wow. I think he already seems to be moving on to newer stuff, but Stay deserves to smash. It doesn't deserve to be just a deep cut. I also wanted more B&B singles, but he definitely won't be going back to B&B after Wow. The new album is right around the corner. The best we can hope for is the Grammys performance of Stay. He'll probably do Better Now or Psycho or Wow. or another one of his hits, but a Grammy performance of Stay would be the perfect way to close the era if we aren't getting anymore singles. |
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