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Post by anafan on Nov 20, 2019 10:00:12 GMT -5
I'm happy for Lizzo, Billie, Ariana in the GF. I was hoping Taylor would make AOTY this time.
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 20, 2019 10:00:59 GMT -5
And the Maren Morris snubs outside of “Common” is appalling! LMAO at some thinking she was this year's Kacey. She never had near the critical reception/industry backing. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 20, 2019 10:03:24 GMT -5
John Legend's Christmas album nominated in best traditional pop vocal album. A rarity for a holiday album, I'm guessing? No, at this point it's routine. In the past 5-10 years holiday albums by Michael Buble, Susan Boyle (!), Sarah McLachlan, Johnny Mathis, and more have been nominated in the category. None have won, though, which is interesting. |
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Post by born on Nov 20, 2019 10:05:32 GMT -5
Quoting my GoldDerby post,
The only one I'm bummed about prediction-wise is Bon Iver in AOTY since they were my first alternate.
Record Of The Year: 6/8
(Lizzo, Billie Eilish, Khalid, Lil Nas X feat. Billy Ray Cyrus, Post Malone feat. Swae Lee, Ariana Grande)
Album Of The Year: 5/8 + 1 alternate
(Lizzo, Vampire Weekend, Lana Del Rey, Ariana Grande, Billie Eilish + Bon Iver alternate)
Song Of The Year: 5/8
(Lady Gaga, Billie Eilish, Taylor Swift, Lewis Capaldi, Lizzo)
Best New Artist: 5/8 + 1 alternate
(Billie Eilish, Lil Nas X, Lizzo, Maggie Rogers, Rosalia + Yola alternate)
So, counting the alternates as 0.25x, we have:
2019 prediction: 64,1%
2020 prediction: 67,1%
We're getting there.
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 20, 2019 10:08:08 GMT -5
Yeah, Lil Nas in AOTY is a bit mind boggling. No Mariah in R&B is a mess. Lizzo in R&B is a choice. Thank god for no Taylor in AOTY. I pray Ariana doesn’t win AOTY, but I don’t see anyone in that category she’d split votes with. She'll split with Billie Eilish some, no? Maybe Lana Del Rey. Vampire Weekend might have had AOTY except for Bon Iver being a surprise inclusion. Really, everyone is kind of splitting votes. |
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Post by Choco on Nov 20, 2019 10:13:23 GMT -5
LOL I can't take them seriously after nominating Lil Nas X for AOTY.
The nod for Spirit is tragic. Even the Beyhive disliked it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2019 10:20:49 GMT -5
Now I know good and damn well if Lizzo could get in best traditional r&b, Mariah could have gotten into r&b somewhere. What is THAT random shit?
This year is predictable for the frontrunners but they somehow still found a way to be messy for the undercards/fillers. Like, no one thinks Beyonce has a shot in hell of winning either of those pop categories and I honestly don't know who else I would have put in her spot, but why is she even there in the first place?
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Post by wavey. on Nov 20, 2019 10:26:36 GMT -5
I thought the same. The EP was well received. It has a 57 metacritic lol wouldn't really call it acclaimed I didn't say that either😉 |
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Post by kanimal on Nov 20, 2019 10:27:18 GMT -5
And the Maren Morris snubs outside of “Common” is appalling! LMAO at some thinking she was this year's Kacey. She never had near the critical reception/industry backing. To me, the big story is her absence from the Country AOTY category. The media absolutely HAS latched onto her as their "it" girl within country, frankly at the expense of a few other popular female artists (such as Kelsea Ballerini). And we're a week removed from the biggest country industry show giving her Album of the Year. That said, there are plenty of voices that question whether she's "country" - or whether the "GIRL" album was all that good. It's interesting that the latter perspective seemed to win out at the Grammy Awards, which you'd argue should theoretically be less passionate about genre nuances than the CMAs. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 20, 2019 10:32:43 GMT -5
LMAO at some thinking she was this year's Kacey. She never had near the critical reception/industry backing. To me, the big story is her absence from the Country AOTY category. The media absolutely HAS latched onto her as their "it" girl within country, frankly at the expense of a few other popular female artists (such as Kelsea Ballerini). And we're a week removed from the biggest country industry show giving her Album of the Year. That said, there are plenty of voices that question whether she's "country" - or whether the "GIRL" album was all that good. It's interesting that the latter perspective seemed to win out at the Grammy Awards, which you'd argue should theoretically be less passionate about genre nuances than the CMAs. I get that the "media" has latched onto Morris, but Kacey's clout stemmed from rave reviews. Morris didn't have those. Re: the Country Album category, anyone paying attention knows the Grammys very often veer from the CMAs and ACMs. Carrie Underwood has never gotten a Country Album nom, for example. Sturgill Simpson recently won the Grammy for Country Album. Ashley Monroe, The Time Jumpers, Brandy Clark, etc have been getting nominated in Country Album at the Grammys. |
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Post by Joe1240 on Nov 20, 2019 10:47:50 GMT -5
Maren Morris got 4 nominations for her debut album and last year her song "The Middle" got 3 nominations that is part of why a lot of us stunned that she didn't get a nomination, But then again this is the same award show will be giving l'll Nas X An Award next year so.
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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on Nov 20, 2019 10:56:41 GMT -5
LMAO at some thinking she was this year's Kacey. She never had near the critical reception/industry backing. To me, the big story is her absence from the Country AOTY category. The media absolutely HAS latched onto her as their "it" girl within country, frankly at the expense of a few other popular female artists (such as Kelsea Ballerini). And we're a week removed from the biggest country industry show giving her Album of the Year. That said, there are plenty of voices that question whether she's "country" - or whether the "GIRL" album was all that good. It's interesting that the latter perspective seemed to win out at the Grammy Awards, which you'd argue should theoretically be less passionate about genre nuances than the CMAs. To be fair, I’ll say that GIRL does not come close to being as good as Hero. Hero was fantastic, and Girl was just okay, not Grammy Album Award-worthy imo. I still do feel like it should’ve got nominated because it’s better than some of the albums that ended up being nominated... Meanwhile - Girl, the song, I am actually surprised about getting no nominations. It’s a female empowerment anthem and I thought that would’ve been an easy shoo-in. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 20, 2019 10:59:10 GMT -5
And the Maren Morris snubs outside of “Common” is appalling! LMAO at some thinking she was this year's Kacey. She never had near the critical reception/industry backing. LMAO at your know-it-all response |
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 20, 2019 11:01:06 GMT -5
Country Album is pretty stacked this year, and it's hard to argue with the nominees. Eric Church is a perennial nominee in the category and consistently makes solid albums.
Reba McEntire released what is easily one of the best albums of her career.
The Pistol Annies released a really well-received album, and Lambert and Monroe are group members and have been in this category as solo artists.
Thomas Rhett's album is blah, but he's a big force in country right now and the album has multiple hits.
Tanya Tucker is a legend, though I don't know much about her album.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Nov 20, 2019 11:03:23 GMT -5
And the Maren Morris snubs outside of “Common” is appalling! . She never had near the critical reception/industry backing.  |
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Post by kimberly on Nov 20, 2019 11:15:34 GMT -5
How comes Cardi B's single money, please me, or press was nominated in the rap category, is it because she did not release a whole body (Album)? no it's because they were bad even for Cardi B |
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Post by ddlz on Nov 20, 2019 11:20:49 GMT -5
Bon Iver and Vampire Weekend inclusions pretty much spell doom for LDR chances. She just lacks a certain block of voters to rally behind her. Sigh.
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Post by dann on Nov 20, 2019 11:23:21 GMT -5
Lil Nas X in AOTY ???? Oh really??? The poor guy must be being dragged by twitter now.
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Post by tinawina on Nov 20, 2019 11:29:58 GMT -5
I didn’t realize so many people though Mariah might get nominated. It never even occurred to me she had a shot.
That Lil Nas X AOTY nod is a real head scratcher. The rest of them are solid though.
Now I know how Lizzo got 8. They stuck her in some interesting categories (Exactly how I Feel? Really? Lol)
The rap album category is solid, but was Rapsody eligible? I think she dropped past the cut off date.
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Post by ddlz on Nov 20, 2019 11:31:18 GMT -5
I don't know why some of you are surprised by these noms. The Grammys have zero credibility and zero prestige.
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Nov 20, 2019 11:47:56 GMT -5
I really thought that Nothing Breaks Like A Heart would be nominated.
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Post by Caviar on Nov 20, 2019 11:53:54 GMT -5
P!nk shut out again?
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Post by Khia on Nov 20, 2019 12:00:51 GMT -5
...they nominated an 18-minute Lil Nas X EP for AOTY?? This is worse than the time that random Coldplay EP was nominated for Pop Album.
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Post by Enigma. on Nov 20, 2019 12:01:31 GMT -5
Shame, that Madonna and Mariah can't get noms even in genre categories with albums that are on par with their best work. It is what it is though.
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Post by The Brazilian Guy 🇧🇷 on Nov 20, 2019 12:03:07 GMT -5
Yay! Just realized that Tove got a nomination for Music Video! 
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Post by PGriffin on Nov 20, 2019 12:04:02 GMT -5
I surprised Marren didn't get any nominations (apart from that one....because of Brandi). Sam x Normani is missing in Pop Duo.... No love for Mark Ronson? What about Ari Lennox?
Why does Lizzo have so many nominations?? I mean I'm happy for the girl but 8?? Are we looking at another India Aire/Sza situation??
I'm sad Robyn didn't get a nomination for Honey in Electronic album BUT I am happy for Nao in R&B album and FKA Twigs and Tove Lo in Video.
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 20, 2019 12:11:10 GMT -5
I didn’t realize so many people though Mariah might get nominated. It never even occurred to me she had a shot. People being disappointed she didn't get nominated doesn't necessarily mean they thought she was going to be nominated. Having said that, it was a top 10 album with very strong critical reviews. It's still on the R&B Albums chart. When you look at some of the nominees in the category, it's hard to justify them getting in over Mariah's album. I don't know why some of you are surprised by these noms. The Grammys have zero credibility and zero prestige.That's patently false. They are still the most watched awards show, artists still want nominations/wins and feel gratitude for them, they still help sales, and the media still gives them a lot of coverage. Those are just facts. |
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Post by ddlz on Nov 20, 2019 12:13:29 GMT -5
AOTY category is cleary rigged to favor Lizzo and doom LDR . That's why Tyler, the Creator is not there but both Bon Iver and Vampire Weekend are.  |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 20, 2019 12:16:43 GMT -5
I don't know why some of you are surprised by these noms. The Grammys have zero credibility and zero prestige. They’re no academy awards but zero? For music awards they’re still the most respected (which isn’t saying a whole lot judging by the other options). |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 20, 2019 12:18:16 GMT -5
AOTY category is cleary rigged to favor Lizzo and doom LDR . That's why Tyler, the Creator is not there but both Bon Iver and Vampire Weekend are. Yep. The committee sat around a boardroom table and mapped it all out and that’s how they chose. |
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