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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 1:25:21 GMT -5
Taylor Swift stans should just be thankful she sells records and has won previous Grammy Awards. If life was a lottery ticket she has now received several winning tickets. Save the controversy for the numerous artists who get snubbed for their artistic achievements.
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Post by Choco on Aug 11, 2019 22:05:53 GMT -5
They literally list any big names that are eligible. Taylor has delivered zero tracks worthy of award recognition so far. I hope the album changes my opinion but so far I can understand the Academy if she gets little to no love.
I'm not ready to buy into the whole Homecoming AOTY thing either, if only because I won't be able to read through the thinkpieces once an album full of old material doesn't win and it's some sort of controversy again because Bey hasn't quite gotten the big award yet. (No matter the fact that they always find room for a couple of awards for her, even with clunkers like that The Carters album).
A little comment re: "Shape of You", it wasn't only expected to get big nods because it was a big hit. Ed was a previous winner ("Thinking Out Loud"), and the song's success was backed up by relatively good critical scores. The fact that Ed still took home the two awards where he was eligible proves there was some support for him, even if the committee didn't nominate him for the big ones. I wouldn't rank that near the "20/20 Exp" or "Harry Styles 4 AOTY!!" prediction messes of the past. That year was a huge mess, now that I remember it (Lorde-gate, 24K Magic cleaning up, Portnow saying that women needed to "step it up").
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Post by kanimal on Aug 12, 2019 9:36:54 GMT -5
A little comment re: "Shape of You", it wasn't only expected to get big nods because it was a big hit. Ed was a previous winner ("Thinking Out Loud"), and the song's success was backed up by relatively good critical scores. The fact that Ed still took home the two awards where he was eligible proves there was some support for him, even if the committee didn't nominate him for the big ones. I wouldn't rank that near the "20/20 Exp" or "Harry Styles 4 AOTY!!" prediction messes of the past. That year was a huge mess, now that I remember it (Lorde-gate, 24K Magic cleaning up, Portnow saying that women needed to "step it up"). My remark about Shape Of You was more about the claim that he was snubbed; most of the dialogue at that point (and not just from Hits) was based on it being a big hit or, like you said, Sheeran having decent success at past ceremonies. Not so much "Shape Of You is a brilliant song." I completely understand including him in the predictions.
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Post by kimberly on Aug 13, 2019 21:04:24 GMT -5
I'm curious to see if "Never Really Over" will get a nomination. It wasn't as big as it could have been, but considering "Joanne" picked up the pop solo grammy last year, I want to see NRO grab a nod there. ROTY and SOTY are highly unlikely.
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Post by shayonce on Aug 18, 2019 4:50:34 GMT -5
Joanne got picked because gaga was massive with a star is born. that helped her in pop(popular vote). katy has nothing on it. zero buzz on both commercial and critic.
Taylos won't get general nomination with her singles and album, same reason as reputation album.
Homecoming has lots of chance because this year is very weak. imo only ariana and billie are locked. a star is born and lizzo are big contender. and that's it pretty much.
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Post by 14887fan on Aug 18, 2019 12:07:40 GMT -5
Yeah, Iβm interested to see what Album of the Year looks like this year. Ariana, Billie, and Lizzo seem like locks to me. Beyond that, I really donβt know what else would be certain. After such a competitive year last year to fill eight spots, it seems like this roundβs going to feel more like a βletβs figure out how to fill in these gapsβ-kind of year.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 18, 2019 12:30:30 GMT -5
Yeah this year doesnβt seem jam packed. Maybe we will see A Star Is Born in there.
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Post by tinawina on Aug 18, 2019 12:52:50 GMT -5
Yeah, Iβm interested to see what Album of the Year looks like this year. Ariana, Billie, and Lizzo seem like locks to me. Beyond that, I really donβt know what else would be certain. After such a competitive year last year to fill eight spots, it seems like this roundβs going to feel more like a βletβs figure out how to fill in these gapsβ-kind of year. You think Lizzoβs a lock? That would be cool. Iβd also look out for Igor to show up. Thereβs got to be some country, rock and AAA type contenders out there too.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 18, 2019 13:00:17 GMT -5
The Highwomen are releasing an album soon. Though it may be after the deadline I think? But they have a few tracks out from it already. May be too country and not yet caught on enough to get Grammy attention, especially in the general categories. But the members have had individual recognition so itβs not an impossible possibility.
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Post by deepston on Aug 18, 2019 17:35:13 GMT -5
Taylos won't get general nomination with her singles and album, same reason as reputation album. The album isn't even out yet.
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Aug 18, 2019 18:27:18 GMT -5
This year has such little good music that
2020 could be the year that Gunna gets a Grammy
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Post by collegedropout on Aug 18, 2019 21:11:56 GMT -5
Lizzo is a lock for the big 3, but which one and how many who knows.
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Post by shayonce on Aug 19, 2019 8:35:24 GMT -5
lizzo's situation is really funny tho. her buzz and everything is rely on truth hurt's success but the song is from 2017 and wasn't on new album when it was released. but was added few wks later to help new album's exposure and bigger sps.
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Post by Choco on Aug 19, 2019 13:01:41 GMT -5
The album has gotten great reviews though. It wouldn't be a stretch to see it nominated (although I think the hype is way too centered on "Truth Hurts" atm. Likely follow-up "Good as Hell" is also from an old EP lol).
If Lover has a few more gems like the title track I think it will at the very least earn a Pop Vocal Album nod. With a weak general field, it's definitely a maybe. But the big question is whether the album is more "Lover" or "ME!".
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Aug 19, 2019 13:08:57 GMT -5
hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=317544&title=GRAMMY-CHEW%3A-COMING-IN-UNDER-THE-WIREWednesday, August 14, 2019 GRAMMY CHEW: COMING IN UNDER THE WIREby Lenny Beer and Simon Glickman With the Grammy eligibility deadline coming on 8/31, the last major releases due to drop under the wire include a handful of potential nominees. Letβs take a look at the contenders. Taylor Swift: Lover, which drops 8/23, will be Tayβs first release via Republic Records. As with every Taylor album of the past several years, we expect controversy to ensue. The megastar is getting some bigβand even some not-so-bigβ TV looks, not to mention other high-profile media. Expect her to become ever more ubiquitous around release date. Lana Del Rey: The Interscope singer/songwriter is getting attention for several new songs; these include βLooking for America,β a delicate but sobering reflection on the state of the nation, as well as covers of Donovan (for the new flick Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark) and Sublime. Lana has never been a Grammy favoriteβshe has four nominations and no winsβbut this flurry of interesting music ahead of her 8/30 full-length could change the equation. Tool: This Volcano/RCA rock troupe has forged its own often oblique path, and in doing so has cultivated and maintained a fanatically devoted fan base. With their first new album since 2006 due on 8/30 (and their catalog newly available on DSPs), they are very much in the spotlight. Could they earn some recognition beyond the expected rock spots? Sheryl Crow: The pop/rock veteran has been a Grammy darling since her '90s arrival (nine wins, 32 noms), and her first project with Scott Borchettaβs BMLG is pure Grammy catnipβa collection of duets with legends like Eric Clapton, Keith Richards, Kris Kristofferson, Bonnie Raitt, James Taylor, Mavis Staples, Joe Walsh and (via recording magic) the late Johnny Cash, not to mention Stevie Nicks, Maren Morris, Chuck D, Gary Clark, Jr., St. Vincent and more. This plethora of guest star power presents multiple possibilities for βGrammy momentsβ on the show. This project will also be an early test of the powerful Borchetta-Scooter Braun alliance. Midland: Another BMLG project (due 8/23), this fun-loving trio threads the needle between old-school honky-tonk country and soft-rock ear candy, with big hooks and harmonies. They took two noms for their smash βDrinkinβ Problem,β so theyβre no longer eligible for Best New Artist, but with their success and considerable charm they are a wildcard for other top-tier categories.
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Post by weaver on Aug 20, 2019 18:49:01 GMT -5
Some Grammy thoughts...the show has really changed since the 90s. We were talking about Mariah a few pages back, and how relatively little Grammy love she's gotten in spite of staggering success. In the 90s, they gave lots of awards to older established artists who released new material - say, Bob Dylan, Bonnie Raitt, Eric Clapton, etc. So in 94, no Grammy for Hero, a song that is basically iconic at this point. The most glaring is the 96 snub of all the Daydream material, an album that was a commercial force and considered her strongest album at that point. She lost some of the categories to Alanis, which was understandable. But, I think she lost best pop album to Joanie Mitchell, whose album probably was not very poppy, and likely sold very little. One Sweet Day taking nothing, not even a collabo award, was shocking. I don't remember what it lost to. I have some theories about why some of this may be - her connections at the time, perhaps viewed unfavorably by Grammy voters, probably hurt her.
While at least she won SOMETHING for We Belong Together/Emancipation of Mimi, We Belong WAS the record of the year. By that time, Grammys were beginning to award more "popular" material but somehow it lost to a non-hit U2 song. I don't even remember what the song was.
So, if the show were more like it was in the 90s, she'd probably be rewarded for Caution being a great album despite not have a huge commercial impact, and based on her legacy. But probably for ratings, they've shifted to generally rewarding the big hits. This could also be a result of the panel changing, as older people age out and younger ones join. I don't think a mild "diss" will hurt her, if she has any chance. Most voters probably aren't aware or don't care about that.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Aug 21, 2019 15:12:23 GMT -5
hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=317612&title=THE-GRAMMY-CHEW%3A-ALBUM-CONTENDERSWednesday, August 21, 2019 THE GRAMMY CHEW: ALBUM CONTENDERSby Lenny Beer and Simon Glickman This edition of the Chew takes a look at a batch of Grammy contenders for Album of the Yearβsome obvious, some long shots. We have a large group vying for those eight spots, so letβs get right to it. Billie Eilish: The teen marvel has to be the lock of the century, and is likelier than anyone to enjoy noms in all or most of the major categories. Her cultural impact is off the charts and she is a textbook new-artist story. Ariana Grande: She wasnβt recognized last year, when she had huge successβand this year sheβs even bigger, and fully cracked the streaming code with her most impactful material yet. Beware: The same committees are voting this year. All we can say is, enough already. Khalid: He just gets bigger and bigger. Simply stated, there are no Grammys this year without Khalid in multiple categories. Get your calculators ready. Taylor Swift: Let the controversy begin. Will the Academy recognize the worldβs biggest star? BeyoncΓ©: Her Homecoming was an event and a distillation of everything that makes her a goddess. Will the Academy give this set its due even though itβs a live album? Ask Peter Frampton. A Star Is Born: This gigantic cultural event, with Gaga showing still more stunning range and Bradley showing real music chops, should be a lock. Last yearβs Grammy deadline fell between the drop of βShallowβ and the album. P!nk: Itβs amazing that, after all these years, P!nk hasnβt yet been given an AOTY nom. We thought she deserved it last time, and we think she deserves it this time. Lizzo: The singer/songwriter/rapper is Eilishβs only rival for cultural impact, and her album has earned unqualified raves. It would be surprising if she didnβt make the cut. Maggie Rogers: Sheβs right in the Grammy sweet spot. It wouldnβt be a surprise to see this singer/songwriter, long a favorite of industry tastemakers, receive a top-tier nod. Ed Sheeran: The mega-star had another dominant year, with lots of high-profile collabs. But Grammy politics have kept him from the recognition a star of his caliber would typically expect. Will Academy insiders change course? Tyler, The Creator: The well-respected, forward-looking rapperβs latest is his most mass-appeal release yet, underscoring that he really is a Creatorβand certainly deserving of a Best Album nod. Dreamville: J. Coleβs compilation presents an opportunity for the Academy to recognize his enormous contribution to music and cultureβheβs more than deserving. Maren Morris: The Nashville star is woven into the Grammy fabric, and earned a BNA nod the first time out. Her GIRL set is all about female empowerment and sheβs the first woman to get a #1 at Country radio in 18 months. A long shot, perhaps, but keep an eye on the CMA noms for possible foreshadowing. Lewis Capaldi: The Scottish troubadour has gotten stronger and stronger during the eligibility period and seems destined to get recognized in the Best New Artist/SOTY/ROTY categories. Could the love extend to Album? BTS: Another long shot, but these lads are leaders of the K-Pop movement. It stands to reason that the telecastβs team will want this troupeβwhose rabid fans are a force of natureβon the Grammy stage. Gary Clark, Jr.: A Grammy favorite and a peerless musician with huge appeal to traditionalists, Clark has made an album of substance that ticks a lot of Grammy boxes. Is it his time to go to the next level? Eric Church: A gifted writer and strong performer whoβs widely admired well beyond Nashville, Church continues to push the creative envelope. Sheryl Crow:Beloved by Grammy since the beginning of her career, when Best New Artist was one of the first of many trophies, Crow returns with her strongest Grammy play in years, assisted by a stunning guest list of stars. Letβs see if momentum builds.
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Post by kimberly on Aug 21, 2019 16:10:28 GMT -5
hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=317612&title=THE-GRAMMY-CHEW%3A-ALBUM-CONTENDERSWednesday, August 21, 2019 THE GRAMMY CHEW: ALBUM CONTENDERSby Lenny Beer and Simon Glickman Ariana Grande: She wasnβt recognized last year, when she had huge successβand this year sheβs even bigger, and fully cracked the streaming code with her most impactful material yet. Beware: The same committees are voting this year. All we can say is, enough already. This "article" is terribly written but also, Sweetener literally WON a Grammy?? I mean sure it wasn't nominated in AOTY, but she was never a lock for AOTY anyway--"Thank U, Next" is what took her from popstar to icon status. If and when she gets the AOTY nod, I'm positive she'll have a good shot at winning.
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Post by Troublemaker on Aug 21, 2019 16:28:36 GMT -5
Are we sure Grein really left? Because I can see him writing this same BS.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 21, 2019 18:27:03 GMT -5
BeyoncΓ©: Her Homecoming was an event and a distillation of everything that makes her a goddess. Will the Academy give this set its due even though itβs a live album? Ask Peter Frampton. Where's that drake stan?
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Post by collegedropout on Aug 22, 2019 14:37:14 GMT -5
So Missy Elliot is gonna enter the race!
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Aug 23, 2019 9:39:27 GMT -5
Thugger will sweep
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Post by Taylor. on Aug 23, 2019 13:59:08 GMT -5
Taylor really shot herself in the face releasing ME! first.
I feel like she'd really be a contender with Lover if she'd released ANYTHING else from the album first.
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Post by Choco on Aug 23, 2019 18:21:27 GMT -5
I wonder what they're gonna push for ROTY or SOTY.
"Lover" feels like Grammy bait, but that angle didn't work for Ed Sheeran recently...
I feel confident that with the right selection it will at the very least get Pop Solo and Pop Album nods.
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Post by willapted33 on Aug 23, 2019 18:46:22 GMT -5
i feel like IGOR could get an aoty nom, similar to how awaken my love did (when it, or damn or melodrama or 4:44 should have won)
hoping that Bandana by MadGibbs can get a raoty nom
especially considering Madvillainy, the best rap album ever, got snubbed for LL Cool J, Beastie Boys and Nelly? in 2005? LL Cool J in 2005?
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Post by collegedropout on Aug 23, 2019 19:05:59 GMT -5
IGOR is getting in. There aren't a lot of rap contenders since CHance the Rapper kind of flopped.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 23, 2019 19:45:35 GMT -5
"Lover" feels like Grammy bait, but that angle didn't work for Ed Sheeran recently... What did Ed have that was similar level?
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 23, 2019 19:46:08 GMT -5
Also, Tanya Tucker is getting a mention somewhere in the noms, even if only country album. I can feel the buzz.
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Post by Zach on Aug 23, 2019 20:17:13 GMT -5
especially considering Madvillainy, the best rap album ever, got snubbed for LL Cool J, Beastie Boys and Nelly? in 2005? LL Cool J in 2005? Still fucking annoys me to this day.
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Post by Choco on Aug 24, 2019 16:44:54 GMT -5
"Lover" feels like Grammy bait, but that angle didn't work for Ed Sheeran recently... What did Ed have that was similar level? The title track sounds similar to "Thinking Out Loud" and "Perfect" to me. Maybe it's just me, but it feels like the type of ballad that would have been a lock for a nomonation a few years ago.
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