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Post by kimberly on Mar 5, 2019 8:09:41 GMT -5
I'm not 100% sure 7 rings will give up that #1 on Streaming Songs yet, as it leads Spotify while Murder is at #7, and YouTube is pretty close. Apple Music is also close, while Murder leads, but over on Amazon 7 rings is doing more. It will be close. But yes, I get your point. After three days of Spotify data and two days of YouTube, I have MOMM at 40.3M streams (22.7k streaming points) and 7 rings at 40.2M streams (21.0k). Middle Child and maybe Shallow (if it pulls a Happier) also have a chance to be the streaming #1 this week. Wow the race must have been p close, as Murder ended up as #3 on Streaming, trailing 7 Rings and Middle Child.
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Post by spicymapping on Mar 5, 2019 8:11:26 GMT -5
Do we know if there's any particular reason the hot 100 isn't out yet?
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Post by imbondz on Mar 5, 2019 8:40:24 GMT -5
Wow almost the entire top 10 are classic songs it amazes me how girls just wanna have fun was blocked from number 1 Overall yes. But in context that Jump by Van Halen blocked it makes total sense. Jump was on another level huge compared to Girls Just Want to Have Fun at the time. Now it’s different as Cyndi Laupers classic is bigger than Jump.
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Post by musicspy on Mar 5, 2019 8:56:32 GMT -5
I still don't get how Shallow got to No1 with such weak stats.Speaking of Ariana,it seems weird NTLTC couldn't even debut No2,with God's plan being way after its peak.Maybe it has to do with Shallow being higher on the on demand streaming chart.7 rings was higher on both streaming and radio and by a considerable margin for 100,000 sales to be enough.Anyways, congrats to Gaga for her 4th leader! NTLTC's first week was stronger than Shallow this week. Well, last month Happier and BUWYGIB were stronger than Shallow but 7 rings blocked both songs. That's one of the funniest things about music charts: sometimes you just need the perfect timing. Ikr...I hope billboard releases an article about how close this week was.I believe some weeks ago,7 rings was quite strong for happier or buwygib to overtake.Now it has fell on sales(although top 5)and is a "weak" no1 on streaming.But my point is both streaming and radio count way more than sales.
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Post by jenglisbe on Mar 5, 2019 8:59:15 GMT -5
So how likely is Sucker going to #1 so far? It will be #1 in sales by a decent margin, and #1 in streaming looks likely, too. So, it has a good chance. We need more firm numbers, though.
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Post by musicspy on Mar 5, 2019 9:01:33 GMT -5
I still don't get how Shallow got to No1 with such weak stats.Speaking of Ariana,it seems weird NTLTC couldn't even debut No2,with God's plan being way after its peak.Maybe it has to do with Shallow being higher on the on demand streaming chart.7 rings was higher on both streaming and radio and by a considerable margin for 100,000 sales to be enough.Anyways, congrats to Gaga for her 4th leader! I tried using the Hot 100 formula I saw before in a prediction thread: sales/6 + airplay/7000 + paid streams/1500 + free streams/2250 + programmed streams/3000 Using some quick estimates: ShallowSales: 115k = 19167 pts Airplay: 34.8 million = 4971 pts Youtube: 12.8 million = 5689 pts Free on-demand streams (est): 1.44 million = 640 pts Paid on-demand streams (est): 12.32 million = 8213 pts Programmed streams: 0.74 million = 247 pts Total points: 38927 pts7 RingsSales: 23k = 3833 pts Airplay: 80.8 million = 11543 pts Youtube: 11.9 million = 5289 pts Free on-demand streams (est): 2.57 million = 1142 pts Paid on-demand streams (est): 21.57 million = 14380 pts Programmed streams: 7.86 million = 2620 pts Total points: 38807 pts And the real sales number is probably a bit higher than 115k, as Billboard always subtract CMA when they report sales but will include the 'lost' sales for the Hot 100. Thanks for shedding some light!I underestimated the yt numbers for shallow
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Post by spicymapping on Mar 5, 2019 9:02:57 GMT -5
Yet another hour passes without the hot 100. The suspense is killing me.
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Post by Gary on Mar 5, 2019 9:13:45 GMT -5
What suspense?
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Post by XanderAnthony on Mar 5, 2019 9:32:39 GMT -5
Maybe not the correct thread for this question, but is anyone else having trouble viewing the mediabase charts on allaccess? I click on the "song charts" tab and nothing happens. I thought maybe it were a browser issue, but I tried in both firefox and internet explorer with no luck.
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Post by dynamac on Mar 5, 2019 9:32:46 GMT -5
Was 20 mil on YT seriously not enough for Lil Pump’s “Be Like Me” to even bubble under?
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Post by rimetm on Mar 5, 2019 9:34:59 GMT -5
Was 20 mil on YT seriously not enough for Lil Pump’s “Be Like Me” to even bubble under? The US numbers were 5.04m, which is about the same amount as YoungBoy Never Broke Again keeps getting for his scattered singles that never make the Hot 100. Combine that with 2 mini bombs going on this week and there was no chance it would make the chart. Update: and here I was forgetting Pump had an album release too and this would also have on-demand on his side. I still blame the Chart History diggers this time a bit for not checking if Lil’ Wayne had it listed on his artist page.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Mar 5, 2019 9:35:08 GMT -5
This year end chart obsession here. I do not understand. Because people's year-end lists (including a lot of critics) and rankdowns come from those. Plus, a lot of people consider longevity as far more important than peak. Why is there such a peak obsession? Nobody cares about the Year-End charts and it's a fact. If Billboard never published them the world wouldn't stop. From a PR standpoint the chart peak is what matters. Besides, "Shallow" has already spent 22 weeks on the chart, that's more longevity than most of these quick #1s people track for their Year-End purposes. And with that said, the Hot 100 threads are unbearable. Literally the worst threads on Pulse and the nightmare is that they happen weekly. God save us all.
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Post by Gary on Mar 5, 2019 9:42:02 GMT -5
I know a few of those American Idol number ones missed the year end chart entirely, so it won’t so long as it makes it somewhere in the top 100. I Believe by Fantasia I think is the only #1 in Hot 100 history not to make a year-end Hot 100 chart..
Many of the early charts were quite flawed. The Partridge Family for instance hit #1 in 1970 but was not on the 1970 or 1971 year end chart , but it showed up on the 1970s decade end countdown
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Post by Kris on Mar 5, 2019 9:43:56 GMT -5
Because people's year-end lists (including a lot of critics) and rankdowns come from those. Plus, a lot of people consider longevity as far more important than peak. Why is there such a peak obsession? And with that said, the Hot 100 threads are unbearable. Literally the worst threads on Pulse and the nightmare is that they happen weekly. God save us all. I think you're forgetting that amore made a topic called Trump for 2020.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Mar 5, 2019 9:44:53 GMT -5
And with that said, the Hot 100 threads are unbearable. Literally the worst threads on Pulse and the nightmare is that they happen weekly. God save us all. I think you're forgetting that amore made a topic called Trump for 2020. At least that was a one-off. This happens routinely.
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Post by Gary on Mar 5, 2019 9:46:28 GMT -5
Because people's year-end lists (including a lot of critics) and rankdowns come from those. Plus, a lot of people consider longevity as far more important than peak. Why is there such a peak obsession? Nobody cares about the Year-End charts and it's a fact. If Billboard never published them the world wouldn't stop. From a PR standpoint the chart peak is what matters. Besides, "Shallow" has already spent 22 weeks on the chart, that's more longevity than most of these quick #1s people track for their Year-End purposes. And with that said, the Hot 100 threads are unbearable. Literally the worst threads on Pulse and the nightmare is that they happen weekly. God save us all. I love year end charts as much as anyone so, well I wouldn't say no one cares. Fewer people care in March though outside of this site
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Post by tallen2001 on Mar 5, 2019 9:48:59 GMT -5
I will also say that I always get excited for list season at the end of every year over the songs from the year end.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Mar 5, 2019 9:49:19 GMT -5
^OK. I wasn't aware of that. It seems that the 1970s year end charts were a mess. One of them was You Light Up My Life being #3 in the 1978 year-end when all of its weeks at #1 happened in 1977.
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Post by gabe on Mar 5, 2019 9:56:49 GMT -5
the best part is everyone pretending like the charts still aren't flawed today
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Post by Gary on Mar 5, 2019 9:59:10 GMT -5
LOL - yeah that is probably why the Hot 100 isn't out yet - Maybe they are recounting the votes at #1 because of the Starbucks thing
(just kidding)
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Post by fhas on Mar 5, 2019 10:02:58 GMT -5
Streaming This Week Last Week Two Weeks Ago Weeks Title, Artist Peak 30 0 Re-Entry 30 Eastside , benny blanco, Halsey & Khalid 16 31 0 Re-Entry 38 Girls Like You , Maroon 5 Featuring Cardi B 5 Eastside: 37-X-30 Girls Like You: 30-X-31 What the hell happened last week... geez...
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Post by eidde on Mar 5, 2019 10:14:07 GMT -5
Oh my god Despacito is finally gone from Hot Latin Songs
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Post by Gary on Mar 5, 2019 10:18:49 GMT -5
Hot 100 This Week Last Week Two Weeks Ago Weeks Title, Artist Peak 1 21 18 22 #1 1 wks Shallow , Lady Gaga & Bradley Cooper 1 2 1 1 6 AG 7 Rings , Ariana Grande 1 3 2 4 21 Without Me , Halsey 1 4 3 5 19 Sunflower (Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse) , Post Malone & Swae Lee 1 5 11 11 6 Middle Child , J. Cole 4 6 6 6 28 Happier , Marshmello & Bastille 2 7 4 3 17 Thank U, Next , Ariana Grande 1 8 10 9 10 Wow. , Post Malone 8 9 13 20 7 Thotiana , Blueface 9 10 7 7 30 Sicko Mode , Travis Scott 1 11 9 8 30 High Hopes , Panic! At The Disco 4 12 12 10 33 Eastside , benny blanco, Halsey & Khalid 9 13 8 2 3 Break Up With Your Girlfriend, I'm Bored , Ariana Grande 2 14 5 – 2 Please Me , Cardi B & Bruno Mars 5 15 14 59 6 Murder On My Mind , YNW Melly 14 16 15 13 13 Going Bad , Meek Mill Featuring Drake 6 17 19 12 40 Girls Like You , Maroon 5 Featuring Cardi B 1 18 17 15 10 A Lot , 21 Savage 12 19 18 16 24 Drip Too Hard , Lil Baby & Gunna 4 20 16 19 19 Money , Cardi B 13 21 20 23 24 Better , Khalid 18 22 25 30 7 Dancing With A Stranger , Sam Smith & Normani 22 23 23 36 16 Beautiful Crazy , Luke Combs 23 24 29 37 11 Sweet But Psycho , Ava Max 24 25 22 24 20 ZEZE , Kodak Black Featuring Travis Scott & Offset 2 26 24 28 20 MIA , Bad Bunny Featuring Drake 5 27 28 29 44 Better Now , Post Malone 3 28 27 – 2 Robbery , Juice WRLD 27 29 30 46 18 Be Alright , Dean Lewis 29 30 34 40 33 You Say , Lauren Daigle 30 31 26 34 39 Youngblood , 5 Seconds Of Summer 7 32 31 31 43 Tequila , Dan + Shay 21 33 37 42 15 Close To Me , Ellie Goulding X Diplo Featuring Swae Lee 28 34 38 49 9 Baby Shark , Pinkfong 32 35 39 47 12 Look Back At It , A Boogie Wit da Hoodie 32 36 36 35 24 Wake Up In The Sky , Gucci Mane X Bruno Mars X Kodak Black 11 37 35 33 24 Leave Me Alone , Flipp Dinero 20 38 44 39 22 Taki Taki , DJ Snake Featuring Selena Gomez, Ozuna & Cardi B 11 39 33 45 47 I Like It , Cardi B, Bad Bunny & J Balvin 1 40 41 43 42 Lucid Dreams , Juice WRLD 2 41 32 32 5 Bury A Friend , Billie Eilish 14 42 42 50 11 Envy Me , Calboy 41 43 40 41 27 Mo Bamba , Sheck Wes 6 44 43 51 10 Swervin , A Boogie Wit da Hoodie Featuring 6ix9ine 38 45 52 54 8 Twerk , City Girls Featuring Cardi B 29 46 59 62 9 Take It From Me , Jordan Davis 46 47 0 Re-Entry 7 Always Remember Us This Way , Lady Gaga 41 48 47 53 20 Backin' It Up , Pardison Fontaine Featuring Cardi B 40 49 0 Hot Shot Debut 1 Legacy , Offset Featuring Travis Scott & 21 Savage 49 50 49 – 2 Red Room , Offset 49 51 45 52 12 This Is It , Scotty McCreery 42 52 56 61 5 Pure Water , Mustard & Migos 52 53 73 68 18 Close Friends , Lil Baby 28 54 0 New 1 Walk Me Home , P!nk 54 55 50 44 3 Talk , Khalid 44 56 60 93 6 Mixed Personalities , YNW Melly Featuring Kanye West 56 57 66 66 12 Millionaire , Chris Stapleton 57 58 51 55 14 Girl Like You , Jason Aldean 46 59 92 95 4 Con Calma , Daddy Yankee Featuring Snow 59 60 48 14 3 Needy , Ariana Grande 14 61 54 64 9 What Makes You Country , Luke Bryan 54 62 0 Re-Entry 7 I'll Never Love Again , Lady Gaga 36 63 65 63 8 Undecided , Chris Brown 35 64 0 New 1 Clout , Offset Featuring Cardi B 64 65 0 New 1 How Did I Get Here , Offset Featuring J. Cole 65 66 85 56 3 Who Do You Love , The Chainsmokers Featuring 5 Seconds Of Summer 56 67 72 89 7 Nights Like This , Kehlani Featuring Ty Dolla $ign 67 68 46 17 3 NASA , Ariana Grande 17 69 83 85 8 Burn Out , Midland 69 70 0 New 1 Outstanding , Gunna 70 71 67 92 8 Here Tonight , Brett Young 67 72 0 New 1 Be Like Me , Lil Pump Featuring Lil Wayne 72 73 87 – 2 Worth It , YK Osiris 73 74 0 New 1 3 Headed Snake , Gunna Featuring Young Thug 74 75 0 New 1 Wit It , Gunna 75 76 78 74 17 Ella Quiere Beber , Anuel AA & Romeo Santos 61 77 64 57 20 This Feeling , The Chainsmokers Featuring Kelsea Ballerini 50 78 0 Re-Entry 2 One Call , Gunna 56 79 71 65 16 Armed And Dangerous , Juice WRLD 44 80 77 79 9 Down To The Honkytonk , Jake Owen 74 81 90 81 5 Shot Clock , Ella Mai 81 82 81 91 4 Miss Me More , Kelsea Ballerini 81 83 68 71 13 Calling My Spirit , Kodak Black 46 84 63 60 13 Nothing Breaks Like A Heart , Mark Ronson Featuring Miley Cyrus 43 85 58 21 8 Imagine , Ariana Grande 21 86 0 New 1 Lick , Offset 86 87 0 New 1 Girls Need Love , Summer Walker X Drake 87 88 84 – 2 Eyes On You , Chase Rice 84 89 70 70 9 Love Someone , Lukas Graham 70 90 55 27 3 Bad Idea , Ariana Grande 27 91 0 New 1 Speed It Up , Gunna 91 92 0 Re-Entry 4 Secreto , Anuel AA & Karol G 68 93 53 22 3 Bloodline , Ariana Grande 22 94 0 New 1 I Guess I Just Feel Like , John Mayer 94 95 0 New 1 Good As You , Kane Brown 95 96 75 72 5 Put A Date On It , Yo Gotti Featuring Lil Baby 59 97 0 New 1 Same Yung N***a , Gunna Featuring Playboi Carti 97 98 80 – 2 Talk You Out Of It , Florida Georgia Line 80 99 96 84 9 Make It Sweet , Old Dominion 84 100 0 New 1 Faucet Failure , Ski Mask The Slump God 100
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Post by Choco on Mar 5, 2019 10:45:25 GMT -5
6 songs in the top 10 spent time at #1.
The 2019 charts are so much more fun than the 2018 ones.
Ariana also kept 8 out of the 12 tracks on the chart for a third week. Impressive.
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Post by Enigma. on Mar 5, 2019 11:02:33 GMT -5
47 0 Re-Entry 7 Always Remember Us This Way , Lady Gaga 41 62 0 Re-Entry 7 I'll Never Love Again , Lady Gaga 36
HUUUUGE re-entries!!
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Post by jtd Thee Stallion on Mar 5, 2019 11:16:00 GMT -5
Drake gets another Hot 100 entry sheesh.
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Post by Enigma. on Mar 5, 2019 12:26:04 GMT -5
Didn't realise Sicko Mode will probably drop out of top ten next week with Please Me and Sucker overtaking it.
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Post by Choco on Mar 5, 2019 12:39:13 GMT -5
Didn't realise Sicko Mode will probably drop out of top ten next week with Please Me and Sucker overtaking it. And I say good riddance (sorry Mayman). Would love to see fewer 30+ weeks at the top 10 hits for a while.
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Post by Naos on Mar 5, 2019 13:11:30 GMT -5
Because people's year-end lists (including a lot of critics) and rankdowns come from those. Plus, a lot of people consider longevity as far more important than peak. Why is there such a peak obsession? Nobody cares about the Year-End charts and it's a fact. If Billboard never published them the world wouldn't stop. I could literally say the same thing about the Hot 100. The world wouldn't stop. And the fact people are bitching that people talk about them would defeat that first assertion. Something's not a fact just because you say it's a fact.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Mar 5, 2019 13:39:16 GMT -5
Nobody cares about the Year-End charts and it's a fact. If Billboard never published them the world wouldn't stop. I could literally say the same thing about the Hot 100. The world wouldn't stop. And the fact people are bitching that people talk about them would defeat that first assertion. Something's not a fact just because you say it's a fact. Wrong. The Billboard Hot 100 is a measure of popularity all labels look at week by week to determine if their marketing strategies have been fruitful. So I SAID WHAT I SAID.
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