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Post by born on Nov 13, 2019 5:52:20 GMT -5
Maybe a CMAs ensemble remix for “Lover”? I can’t believe they’re releasing a new single this year.. before the freeze.
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Post by mood24 on Nov 13, 2019 7:28:36 GMT -5
lover feat Shawn.. a nightmare
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Post by schnetzka on Nov 13, 2019 9:02:50 GMT -5
Maybe it was released today for CMA performance purposes. Possibly?
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Post by Choco on Nov 13, 2019 9:07:51 GMT -5
I think they saw the leaks and moved ahead the release? Plus the song wasn't setting the charts on fire either.
I love the song so much that even with a cheap remix I still want it to succeed. The chart run has been painful so far.
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Post by born on Nov 13, 2019 9:29:16 GMT -5
^ As you’ve said, the song wasn’t exactly smashing before so a mid-week remix release wouldn’t hurt its chart run. However, it’s probably just because it’s the 13th.
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Post by deepston on Nov 13, 2019 9:47:57 GMT -5
^ As you’ve said, the song wasn’t exactly smashing before so a mid-week remix release wouldn’t hurt its chart run. However, it’s probably just because it’s the 13th. It's 13 weeks after the album release I guess
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Post by taylor is terrified on Nov 13, 2019 12:09:50 GMT -5
Taylor does absolutely nothing on accident. Everything is calculated and planned. I wonder if the updated lyrics are either Shawn fessing up and finally telling Camila he loves her OR meant to be from Joe's perspective.
For instance: We would sit on the stoop/I'll sing love songs to you when we're eighty gave me "Mary's Song (Oh My My My) vibes.
Also: Look in my eyes, they will tell you the truth/the girl in my story has always been you (also gave me Mary's Song vibes)
i think it is important to note that in Mary's Song, Taylor mentions to the love interest that "you were 7 and I was 9" and in "Daylight" Taylor says I've been sleeping so long in a twenty-year dark night. Also in "Lover" Taylor sings Have I known you 20 seconds or 20 years...
Call me crazy but tbh something about that suggests that Joe and Taylor might very well have known each other when they were kids. The fact they've been together this long tells my romantic self that they're soulmates, but idk this is all just wild theories...
I personally love Shawn and his voice, and think he sounded heavenly in this song. Also can we talk about the updated color scheme? THAT should have been for the album cover. I love those purple and yellow vibes. The purple looks incredible in Taylor's hair.
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Post by adamalterlago on Nov 14, 2019 6:21:58 GMT -5
Taylor does absolutely nothing on accident. Everything is calculated and planned. I wonder if the updated lyrics are either Shawn fessing up and finally telling Camila he loves her OR meant to be from Joe's perspective. For instance: We would sit on the stoop/I'll sing love songs to you when we're eighty gave me "Mary's Song (Oh My My My) vibes. Also: Look in my eyes, they will tell you the truth/ the girl in my story has always been you (also gave me Mary's Song vibes) i think it is important to note that in Mary's Song, Taylor mentions to the love interest that "you were 7 and I was 9" and in "Daylight" Taylor says I've been sleeping so long in a twenty-year dark night. Also in "Lover" Taylor sings Have I known you 20 seconds or 20 years... Call me crazy but tbh something about that suggests that Joe and Taylor might very well have known each other when they were kids. The fact they've been together this long tells my romantic self that they're soulmates, but idk this is all just wild theories...
I personally love Shawn and his voice, and think he sounded heavenly in this song. Also can we talk about the updated color scheme? THAT should have been for the album cover. I love those purple and yellow vibes. The purple looks incredible in Taylor's hair. Nice theory but I don't think Taylor and Joe knew each other as kids. He grew up in the UK and she grew up in the States. I also think Taylor would have said something about that publicly at this point.
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Post by born on Nov 14, 2019 18:40:06 GMT -5
Someone please link Taylor’s tweet/story. God what the fuck is going on....
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Post by Taylor. on Nov 14, 2019 18:42:11 GMT -5
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Post by cjay on Nov 14, 2019 18:49:31 GMT -5
That’s some crazy shit!
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Post by nickd on Nov 14, 2019 18:52:46 GMT -5
Shouldn't she still be able to perform her songs if they're not being recorded? I guess the clause in the contract allows them to block televised performances, but I would think that as long as no official recordings are being made of them, she should be able to perform her old songs on tour.
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Post by deepston on Nov 14, 2019 18:57:20 GMT -5
I feel so sad :(
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Post by Snowbeast on Nov 14, 2019 18:59:10 GMT -5
Shouldn't she still be able to perform her songs if they're not being recorded? I guess the clause in the contract allows them to block televised performances, but I would think that as long as no official recordings are being made of them, she should be able to perform her old songs on tour. They are being recorded though and the performance will rack up millions of views on YouTube. Dirty play, but she couldn’t have expected that they were going to play nice after that first statement. Don’t play the victim angle (edit: even though she is a victim, I hate to see “I don’t know what else to do”. Yes you do, Taylor. Look at your fucking career. You’ll find a way). It will be over next year. She’s HAD to have written a song about this by now. Debut it at the awards show, say it’s available everywhere after the show, tack it onto the digital of Lover...the biggest revenge is success.
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Post by schnetzka on Nov 14, 2019 18:59:21 GMT -5
What the actual fuck.
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Post by Ty on Nov 14, 2019 19:07:22 GMT -5
As much as I emphasize with her situation, this is basically Taylor consciously calling her fans to cyberbully the two people...so IDK.
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Post by deepston on Nov 14, 2019 19:10:18 GMT -5
As much as I emphasize with her situation, this is basically Taylor consciously calling her fans to cyberbully the two people...so IDK. Fighting for something that's her right should not be named "bullying".
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Nov 14, 2019 19:10:33 GMT -5
I’m so confused, if she’s the writer of those songs how it she not able to perform them? The writers have the say on everything, don’t they?
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Post by Ty on Nov 14, 2019 19:12:35 GMT -5
As much as I emphasize with her situation, this is basically Taylor consciously calling her fans to cyberbully the two people...so IDK. Fighting for something that's her right should not be named "bullying". I'm not saying she's a bully. But she's trying to turn her fans (who has nothing to do with this contract issue) into bullies.
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Post by deepston on Nov 14, 2019 19:12:48 GMT -5
I’m so confused, if she’s the writer of those songs how it she not able to perform them? The writers have the say on everything, don’t they? They own the masters of the songs, they basically own the songs and dictate what she can and cannot do with them.
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Post by Kinney on Nov 14, 2019 19:13:09 GMT -5
As much as I emphasize with her situation, this is basically Taylor consciously calling her fans to cyberbully the two people...so IDK. It's the court of public opinion. If these two men won't let her even perform her own music, she has every right to use whatever tools she has to get them to change their mind.
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Post by Snowbeast on Nov 14, 2019 19:13:13 GMT -5
As much as I emphasize with her situation, this is basically Taylor consciously calling her fans to cyberbully the two people...so IDK. Two people who couldn’t care less at that/ won’t be motivated to change their minds. They are really scared of those re-recorded albums. She lost the battle, she’ll win the war — you can’t have it all. Taylor Swift: Greatest Hits Stadium World Tour, have all 5 albums in the top 10 of the Billboard 200 first week, multiple songs rechart on the Hot 100....like c’mon. It sucks to not play this award show, but you won.
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Post by deepston on Nov 14, 2019 19:14:03 GMT -5
Fighting for something that's her right should not be named "bullying". I'm not saying she's a bully. But she's trying to turn her fans (who has nothing to do with this contract issue) into bullies. If anything she's trying to put pressure on these 2 guys. She's not making any incentive to cyberbully them, she's asking her fans to pressure them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 19:15:58 GMT -5
That's really awful. I hate to see Taylor treated so badly.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Nov 14, 2019 19:17:02 GMT -5
I know people go after her for not owning her masters or whatever but damn it must be insane to know you’re the creator of those songs (your personal experiences, time, effort was put in) and to not be able to perform them must feel horrible. Mind-blowing
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Post by Choco on Nov 14, 2019 19:17:24 GMT -5
They really do hate her huh.
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Post by collegedropout on Nov 14, 2019 19:25:56 GMT -5
Why did I see performances of "All To Well" and other older songs recently? Why was that allowed?
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Post by deepston on Nov 14, 2019 19:32:06 GMT -5
I have no words.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Nov 14, 2019 19:37:00 GMT -5
She’s trending with multiple hashtags on Twitter.
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Post by taylor is terrified on Nov 14, 2019 19:38:40 GMT -5
I can barely find the words to articulate how thoroughly disgusted I am. I genuinely feel like I could vomit. To literally own 19 songs (counting Beautiful Ghosts out tomorrow) out of seven albums over 13 years is something I could never imagine happening to me. Songs like ATW were not written for two tyrannical men to own them.
And she is not asking us fans to bully them. She is asking us fans, the people who've been by her side for 13 years, to help her reason as much as possible with these two. There is a huge difference. It saddens and disgusts me that these two pigs are basically doing whatever they can to keep her out of the spotlight until November 2020. And if they even try to prevent these re-recordings I'm going to spit fire. @ Ariana Grande, Scootie's main chick: fight like hell for Taylor because I know you care about your fellow artists. Risk it all if you have to, but I urge you to make an effort. (Sad for you too that you likely don't truly own any of your music either.) Yeah this post is a rambling mess but like I said I'm kinda speechless. WTF
And I CAN'T at that tweet!!!
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