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Post by Enigma. on Apr 3, 2019 7:24:57 GMT -5
Eminem is the really obvious one, but apart from him you've got 50 Cent, Ja Rule, Nelly and a bunch of other 2000s pop rappers. In this decade we've already had Fetty Wap, Trinidad James, Rob Stone, OT Genesis etc who all had 1-3 hits then completely dipped. I wouldn't call these "legacies" 50 Cent is an obvious one though. I still bop to his biggest hits but as an artist he's super dated.
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Post by mkarns on Apr 3, 2019 11:24:10 GMT -5
Eminem is the really obvious one, but apart from him you've got 50 Cent, Ja Rule, Nelly and a bunch of other 2000s pop rappers. In this decade we've already had Fetty Wap, Trinidad James, Rob Stone, OT Genesis etc who all had 1-3 hits then completely dipped. I wouldn't call these "legacies" 50 Cent is an obvious one though. I still bop to his biggest hits but as an artist he's super dated. Not to mention that by now there are likely many who only know Ja Rule in association with Fyre Fest, which after only two years has become a seemingly universal meme for a scam or a complete botch.
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Post by Gary on Apr 3, 2019 13:31:54 GMT -5
Beatles, as time passes, fewer and fewer people will recognize or even care about their impact
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Post by crazyb on Apr 3, 2019 13:45:08 GMT -5
Beatles, as time passes, fewer and fewer people will recognize or even care about their impact So basically every old act?
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Post by Gary on Apr 3, 2019 13:57:55 GMT -5
I guess so.
Paul McCartney's ex was quoted as saying a couple years ago that the reason he recorded with Rihanna was so that younger people would know who he is.
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Post by leonagwen on Apr 3, 2019 14:58:26 GMT -5
Beatles, as time passes, fewer and fewer people will recognize or even care about their impact It's sad but you may be right.
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Post by collegedropout on Apr 3, 2019 17:22:56 GMT -5
But their songs live on in pop culture, movies, commercials, etc.
Which is why it's important to rack up the classics NOW. And that's why someone like Beyonce needs to start caring about singles again. 60 years from now people will think she just stopped recording after "Halo".
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Post by leonagwen on Apr 3, 2019 18:22:50 GMT -5
But their songs live on in pop culture, movies, commercials, etc. Which is why it's important to rack up the classics NOW. And that's why someone like Beyonce needs to start caring about singles again. 60 years from now people will think she just stopped recording after "Halo". Crazy in love and Single ladies will never be forgotten.
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Post by rainie on Apr 3, 2019 19:04:24 GMT -5
But their songs live on in pop culture, movies, commercials, etc. Which is why it's important to rack up the classics NOW. And that's why someone like Beyonce needs to start caring about singles again. 60 years from now people will think she just stopped recording after "Halo". um no...Formation is def gonna be remembered down the road (and maybe Drunk in Love)
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Post by mkarns on Apr 3, 2019 19:29:31 GMT -5
But their songs live on in pop culture, movies, commercials, etc. Which is why it's important to rack up the classics NOW. And that's why someone like Beyonce needs to start caring about singles again. 60 years from now people will think she just stopped recording after "Halo". um no...Formation is def gonna be remembered down the road (and maybe Drunk in Love) While I would like it better if Beyonce had more hit singles, I think Lemonade as a whole is likely to be well remembered long term.
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Post by collegedropout on Apr 3, 2019 19:31:28 GMT -5
But their songs live on in pop culture, movies, commercials, etc. Which is why it's important to rack up the classics NOW. And that's why someone like Beyonce needs to start caring about singles again. 60 years from now people will think she just stopped recording after "Halo". Crazy in love and Single ladies will never be forgotten. Agreed. But I said "stopped AFTER Halo"
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Post by collegedropout on Apr 3, 2019 19:34:00 GMT -5
But their songs live on in pop culture, movies, commercials, etc. Which is why it's important to rack up the classics NOW. And that's why someone like Beyonce needs to start caring about singles again. 60 years from now people will think she just stopped recording after "Halo". um no...Formation is def gonna be remembered down the road (and maybe Drunk in Love) Definitely don't agree with that.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Apr 3, 2019 20:05:56 GMT -5
It is weird to me who seems to last and who just disappears. I am not naming any new names, but it definitely feels like Justin Timberlake should have a legacy on par with any other pop giant, but he doesn't really? Same with Gwen Stefani. Both come from powerhouse bands/groups and then had major solo success and long-term success. I don't think one under-performing album tarnishes a legacy though. Maintenance is a good word for it. Like, what if Justin had given a wildly beloved Superbowl performance where he pulled out Nsync for like, even just half a song lol. It would have been iconic and talked about for weeks. I know it seems dumb to mention one performance as a possible game changer, but think about how influential Beyonce's Superbowl performance was, including when she dragged out Kelly and Michelle. Beyonce has been amazing at fostering a legacy even without necessarily needing to have hits to do it. Like, I don't know if it will last forever, but there is definitely a difference between Beyonce and Justin Timberlake and Gwen Stefani, despite having some similarities (come from a big, successful group, solo success, long careers etc).
I feel like Katy and Gaga are too "new" still to talk about their legacies. We have seen artists have massive success and then fall into irrelevancy seemingly out of nowhere. Or, we have seen people do the opposite and under-perform before exploding back with a new project.
Gaga is particularly interesting to me because a lot of her success seems to be coming from areas that aren't where she started (pop/dance cds). Like, a Star is Born, but also that other Emmy performance, the weird success of her Tony Bennett collabo lol. It will be interesting to see where she stands in 10 or so years (which would put her in the same time frame roughly as Justin Timberlake or Beyonce are now-roughly 20 years into a career).
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Post by alpha on Apr 4, 2019 23:47:58 GMT -5
Justin... Bieber. He isn’t trying very hard, which shows it’s not like he made a bad album or had a horrible on-stage performance... recently. So he hasn’t flopped, but he is deciding to do things like Justin Timberlake is / did; Peak, then release features on other people’s singles to prove you are still popular enough to generate a fan base, ala “Despacito”, “The One” and then take some more time off to do what you want, and then generate interest if you hint at more music (but it can only last for so long before fans no longer keep up hope for an album, but only get a single or possibly an EP). But... Not really trying is... not a legacy people can support forever... and for god’s sake that damn long hair and scruff has Shaggy from Scooby-Doo vibes. It’s a tough tragic to see someone seen as “pretty” turn to stoner-grunge 90’s Clueless Cher reject. Also... Chris Brown... Rihanna is making a come back, and has her own makeup line. Chris Brown is... not a C-Lister, but likely only a high B-Lister now (Its the “B+ Still ain’t an A-“ Type feeling). Let’s see what comes of Selena Gomez, Victoria Justice, and Jessica Simpson... ohh yeah! People forgot about her legacy so bad they forgot to even mention she had one. Dumb Blonde might be her only “legacy” with Newlyweds. For people who say “she sold over a billion dollarszzzzz!!” On her clothing brand... Britney sold over 1.5 billions dollars on perfume in like 5 years. Here is the Wikipedia receipt: “Worldwide, Spears sold over one million bottles in the first five years, with gross receipts of $1.5 billion.” Sourced- en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britney_SpearsHer perfume was once claimed on her website to be 34% of sales for all perfumes. www.google.com/amp/s/www.racked.com/platform/amp/2016/10/20/13260722/curious-britney-spears-perfume-fantasy-fragranceJessica Who? And after 10 years, on all of her products combined...(clothes, skincare, etc.), really? Now she seems like a Mandy Moore... musically speaking, at least.
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Post by divasummer on Apr 14, 2019 16:29:47 GMT -5
Did she say was embarrassing herself or did YOU say it? What are you even talking about, Katy is embarrassing herself a lot and hasn't stopped. I know EXACTLY what you are saying Drakeisskinny but I do think your undermining "Teenage Dreams" a bit. However I don't think it was as big or even had the same feeling as "The Bodyguard, Thriller or even The Fame era". It was very big though. About her image I know exactly what you mean. I'm not going to say I feel this way but I have seen many peoples faces when Katy Perry's name is mentioned. She may be a very nice person but....
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Apr 14, 2019 18:28:50 GMT -5
Justin... Bieber. He isn’t trying very hard, which shows it’s not like he made a bad album or had a horrible on-stage performance... recently. So he hasn’t flopped, but he is deciding to do things like Justin Timberlake is / did; Peak, then release features on other people’s singles to prove you are still popular enough to generate a fan base, ala “Despacito”, “The One” and then take some more time off to do what you want, and then generate interest if you hint at more music (but it can only last for so long before fans no longer keep up hope for an album, but only get a single or possibly an EP). But... Not really trying is... not a legacy people can support forever... and for god’s sake that damn long hair and scruff has Shaggy from Scooby-Doo vibes. It’s a tough tragic to see someone seen as “pretty” turn to stoner-grunge 90’s Clueless Cher reject. Also... Chris Brown... Rihanna is making a come back, and has her own makeup line. Chris Brown is... not a C-Lister, but likely only a high B-Lister now (Its the “B+ Still ain’t an A-“ Type feeling). Let’s see what comes of Selena Gomez, Victoria Justice, and Jessica Simpson... ohh yeah! People forgot about her legacy so bad they forgot to even mention she had one. Dumb Blonde might be her only “legacy” with Newlyweds. For people who say “she sold over a billion dollarszzzzz!!” On her clothing brand... Britney sold over 1.5 billions dollars on perfume in like 5 years. Here is the Wikipedia receipt: “Worldwide, Spears sold over one million bottles in the first five years, with gross receipts of $1.5 billion.” Sourced- en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britney_SpearsHer perfume was once claimed on her website to be 34% of sales for all perfumes. www.google.com/amp/s/www.racked.com/platform/amp/2016/10/20/13260722/curious-britney-spears-perfume-fantasy-fragranceJessica Who? And after 10 years, on all of her products combined...(clothes, skincare, etc.), really? Now she seems like a Mandy Moore... musically speaking, at least. Victoria... justice?
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Post by Joe1240 on Apr 14, 2019 22:29:20 GMT -5
Christina Aguilera-Her First Three Albums are remembered but everything since Bionic has been forgotten.
As for Selena Gomez, She is too "New" for this. She has her illness Lupus holding her back from releasing more music. She still has a bit of a chance to get "Revival" type success again if release the right songs.
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Post by jimijoop on Feb 24, 2023 15:40:29 GMT -5
Demi Lovato: She was going to have a successful music career but now she's a laughing stock.
Creed: Once the biggest rock Band in America, nowadays Americans pretend like they never existed and when they remember them it's mostly for the wrong reasons.
Janet Jackson: The Nipplegate unfairly hurt her legacy to the point her music became forgotten by the public.
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Post by Private Dancer on Feb 24, 2023 16:09:27 GMT -5
First off, your legacy can't be diminished by time. It will always be there, even if people forget about you and who you are. For example, the black artists who created rock n roll are unfortunately forgotten, but their legacy isn't diminished by any means.
Someone said Brandy, and I disagree. Brandy's legacy will not be diminished. What other black girl you know of as a teen was getting #1's, Grammy wins & nominations, multi-platinum albums, having a huge show on tv, first black Cinderella, and major brand deals. Not only that she is known as THE vocal bible and her FIRST 3 albums are considered R&B classics and not to mention the new R&B girls are said to be inspired by her. Not to mention she also inspired Erykah Badu's and Jill Scott's first album...so I'm confused how her legacy is diminishing.
As far as the Beatles go, I do not like them at all, but they have a legacy that will not be forgotten. They may not be talked about as much, but their legacies aren't diminishing in any way.
Whitney, MJ, & Janet had their scandals but they have inspired many generations and have had such a huge impact that despite their scandals, their legacy can't and won't be diminished.
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Post by Joe1240 on Feb 25, 2023 0:14:22 GMT -5
My 2019 predictions ended up wrong and I like both Christina and Selena.
Green Day-They had a good 15 year run of hits but their last was in 2009.Nothing of note since.
Foo Fighters-Lots of hits about the same amount as Green Day.I think their last in 2008.
My Chemical Romance-About a decade of hits with their last in 2011 and their reunited tour seems to be doing nothing.
Elvis-His songs are all covers and no big album of note that stands out like The Beatles.
Aerosmith-Only remembered for their Carrie Underwood CMT event and duet.Also a short American Idol stint.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 25, 2023 0:30:22 GMT -5
Uhhhh
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Post by mkarns on Feb 25, 2023 3:00:03 GMT -5
My 2019 predictions ended up wrong and I like both Christina and Selena. Green Day-They had a good 15 year run of hits but their last was in 2009.Nothing of note since. Foo Fighters-Lots of hits about the same amount as Green Day.I think their last in 2008. My Chemical Romance-About a decade of hits with their last in 2011 and their reunited tour seems to be doing nothing. Elvis-His songs are all covers and no big album of note that stands out like The Beatles. Aerosmith-Only remembered for their Carrie Underwood CMT event and duet.Also a short American Idol stint. You apparently missed more than a thing....(Aerosmith allusion, in case it's lost on you)
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Post by jimijoop on Apr 21, 2023 2:21:35 GMT -5
Frank Ocean right now with the Coachella fiasco
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Post by rainie on Apr 21, 2023 17:40:50 GMT -5
My 2019 predictions ended up wrong and I like both Christina and Selena. Green Day-They had a good 15 year run of hits but their last was in 2009.Nothing of note since. Foo Fighters-Lots of hits about the same amount as Green Day.I think their last in 2008. My Chemical Romance-About a decade of hits with their last in 2011 and their reunited tour seems to be doing nothing. Elvis-His songs are all covers and no big album of note that stands out like The Beatles. Aerosmith-Only remembered for their Carrie Underwood CMT event and duet.Also a short American Idol stint. You apparently missed more than a thing....(Aerosmith allusion, in case it's lost on you) not to mention walk this way and dream fu cking on ,,,, meanwhile i have no idea what any of the things you mentioned aerosmith being known for are
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Post by jimijoop on Jul 13, 2023 8:43:34 GMT -5
Rammstein since Till Lindemann is accused for sexual assault.
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