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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 25, 2019 11:07:32 GMT -5
I know this is the lead single to Luke Combs' second album. However, according to the Billboard Country Update, This One's For You has now spent 32 weeks at #1 on the country albums chart. I have amended the top 25 albums: 1. Come On Over-Shania Twain-Mercury-1997-50 2. Always & Forever-Randy Travis-Warner Bros.-1987-43 3. This One's For You-Luke Combs-Columbia-2017-42 4. No Fences-Garth Brooks-Capitol-1990-41 5. Fly-the Dixie Chicks-Monument-1999-36 6. O Brother, Where Art Thou-Soundtrack-Mercury-2000-35 7. Fearless-Taylor Swift-Big Machine-2008-35 8. Some Gave All-Billy Ray Cyrus-Mercury-1992-34 9. Ropin' The Wind-Garth Brooks-Capitol-1991-33 10. Killin' Time-Clint Black-RCA-1989-31 11. Need You Now-Lady Antebellum-Capitol-2010-31 12. Not A Moment Too Soon-Tim McGraw-Curb-1994-29 13. The Woman In Me-Shania Twain-Mercury-1995-29 14. Traveller-Chris Stapleton-Mercury-2015-29 15. Feels So Right-Alabama-RCA-1981-28 16. Mountain Music-Alabama-RCA-1982-28 17. Blue-LeAnn Rimes-Curb-1996-28 18. Some Hearts-Carrie Underwood-Arista-2005-27 19. Kenny-Kenny Rogers-United Artists-1979-25 20. Taylor Swift-Taylor Swift-2006-24 21. The Gambler-Kenny Rogers-United Artists-1979-23 22. Always On My Mind-Willie Nelson-Columbia-1982-22 23. Behind Closed Doors-Charlie Rich-Epic-1973-21 24. The Closer You Get-Alabama-RCA-1983-21 25. Wichita Lineman-Glen Campbell-Capitol-1968-20 Seeing since Luke Combs is spending his 40th week at the top of the country albums chart, I have amended this list for you. Only one of four country albums to spend at least that much time at the top. Passes Garth Brooks' No Fences as the third album with the most weeks at the top. Of course, I would take Brooks' sales any day.
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Post by CoJoFan on Aug 5, 2019 12:11:14 GMT -5
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Post by onebuffalo on Aug 6, 2019 9:32:16 GMT -5
1. Come On Over-Shania Twain-Mercury-1997-50 2. This One's For You-Luke Combs-Columbia-44 3. Always & Forever-Randy Travis-Warner Bros.-1987-43 4. No Fences-Garth Brooks-Capitol-1990-41 5. Fly-the Dixie Chicks-Monument-1999-36 6. O Brother, Where Art Thou-Soundtrack-Mercury-2000-35 7. Fearless-Taylor Swift-Big Machine-2008-35 8. Some Gave All-Billy Ray Cyrus-Mercury-1992-34 9. Ropin' The Wind-Garth Brooks-Capitol-1991-33 10. Killin' Time-Clint Black-RCA-1989-31 11. Need You Now-Lady Antebellum-Capitol-2010-31 12. Not A Moment Too Soon-Tim McGraw-Curb-1994-29 13. The Woman In Me-Shania Twain-Mercury-1995-29 14. Traveller-Chris Stapleton-Mercury-2015-29 15. Feels So Right-Alabama-RCA-1981-28 16. Mountain Music-Alabama-RCA-1982-28 17. Blue-LeAnn Rimes-Curb-1996-28 18. Some Hearts-Carrie Underwood-Arista-2005-27 19. Kenny-Kenny Rogers-United Artists-1979-25 20. Taylor Swift-Taylor Swift-2006-24 21. The Gambler-Kenny Rogers-United Artists-1979-23 22. Always On My Mind-Willie Nelson-Columbia-1982-22 23. Behind Closed Doors-Charlie Rich-Epic-1973-21 24. The Closer You Get-Alabama-RCA-1983-21 25. Wichita Lineman-Glen Campbell-Capitol-1968-20
I have moved This One's For You in second place for those albums spending the most time at the top. He passes Randy Travis. However, I would take Travis' sales. I believe This One's For You is eligible for triple platinum certification. Will Luke Combs spend another six weeks at the top to tie Shania Twain? Only time will tell.
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Post by recordyear on Aug 6, 2019 12:25:59 GMT -5
Hot 100: #21 (+3) *new peak* Hot Country Songs: #2 (+1) Country airplay: #1 (+1) Country sales: #3 (+1) Country streams: #3 (+1)
Also still gained 0.457 million audience on airplay today despite poor callout.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 6, 2019 16:59:14 GMT -5
New song for the Angry Birds 2 soundtrack:
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Post by CoJoFan on Aug 8, 2019 7:31:48 GMT -5
30 minutes and weâre getting some sort of announcement from him on his website. I hope itâs for his second album and not a tour.
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Post by rowdawg21 on Aug 8, 2019 7:48:08 GMT -5
30 minutes and weâre getting some sort of announcement from him on his website. I hope itâs for his second album and not a tour. New album is coming out on November 8.
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Post by recordyear on Aug 8, 2019 7:52:06 GMT -5
New album is coming out on November 8. Quite predictable that he would release on the CMA Awards week.
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Post by CoJoFan on Aug 8, 2019 9:15:14 GMT -5
New album is coming out on November 8. Quite predictable that he would release on the CMA Awards week. Did he give the name of the album or just the release date?
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Post by collinkottke on Aug 8, 2019 9:22:23 GMT -5
Quite predictable that he would release on the CMA Awards week. Did he give the name of the album or just the release date? Just the release date. His team are great marketers, so I'm sure the name won't come for a bit. They are gonna spread out the information about this album for a while. I would expect things like name, how many tracks, track listing and album cover will each be announced separately.
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Post by collinkottke on Aug 12, 2019 20:04:37 GMT -5
"Beer Never Broke My Heart" gets a second week at #1, while lower down on the Billboard Country Airplay Chart "Even Though I'm Leaving" debuts at #58.
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Post by Wackadoodle on Aug 13, 2019 20:15:43 GMT -5
Columbia put out an ad saying "#1 and going strong" in Aircheck this week, but there's no way Combs gets another week at #1. I think that was more about trying to maximize enthusiasm for the CMA voting, with the second ballot open Aug. 12-20. This really shouldn't have been as big a radio hit as it was. The research suggests approximately 1 in 5 listeners doesn't like this song, which is basically the highest dislike rate of everything charting right now. Luke Combs may have a lot of industry support, but he's also a polarizing artist. Not everyone loves the obnoxious shouting and the scratchy voice. He'll have to tone it down a bit if he wants to continue to sustain radio success. I guess this one was able to do so much simply on the huge amount of momentum he had coming off a phenomenally successful debut album. We'll see how well that momentum holds going forward. However, even if he doesn't have every song go to #1 on radio, the strong sales and award wins will keep him comfortable for quite a while.
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Post by ladyđfan on Aug 13, 2019 20:48:06 GMT -5
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Post by Wackadoodle on Aug 13, 2019 21:02:07 GMT -5
Look, it'd be different if the data suggested there was also a large segment of the audience that really loved the song, like "Girl" with its high favorite ratings that lasted several weeks, but Luke Combs didn't even have that this time around. I'm not saying he doesn't have an audience. Of course he does. I just don't think this one single really received as positive a reaction as the stuff off his first album did. Not trying to upset any Luke Combs fans and apologies in advance if this comes across as harsh.
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Post by collinkottke on Aug 13, 2019 21:46:27 GMT -5
I really would love to see how Luke Combs would be doing if he wasnât so darn polarizing...
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 13, 2019 22:19:55 GMT -5
Look, it'd be different if the data suggested there was also a large segment of the audience that really loved the song Well funnily enough based on the data this is one of the top 5 biggest country hits of the year thus far but sure, continue to have callout tunnel vision. Just keep it to yourself from now on, because honestly we're all beyond tired of this argument.
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Post by Wackadoodle on Aug 13, 2019 22:56:47 GMT -5
If you're tired of the argument, you're basically saying you're tired of discussing what radio audiences want to hear. They don't get on forums like this to air their grievances, but they do drive to work and change the station when someone starts scream-singing. I'm just being honest based on personal experiences with regular people. I think they're fine with his past singles, but this one really turns folks off when it gets to the chorus. Frankly, it's just too loud and unpleasant on the ears. That may be why it didn't test as well as his previous singles.
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Post by Naos on Aug 13, 2019 23:23:00 GMT -5
If you're tired of the argument, you're basically saying you're tired of discussing what radio audiences want to hear. They don't get on forums like this to air their grievances, but they do drive to work and change the station when someone starts scream-singing. I'm just being honest based on personal experiences with regular people. I think they're fine with his past singles, but this one really turns folks off when it gets to the chorus. Frankly, it's just too loud and unpleasant on the ears. That may be why it didn't test as well as his previous singles. It's not about what audiences want to hear. As was said time and time again, it's what a small portion of the radio audience wants to hear. As for "personal experiences", anecdotes don't really matter in an argument about basically anything, if you mean what you've personally heard from people. To say audiences don't want to hear one of the biggest hits of the year is ridiculous.
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Post by ladyđfan on Aug 14, 2019 0:24:48 GMT -5
Arguing with him is futile... Better to just report and move on.
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Post by Wackadoodle on Aug 14, 2019 0:29:15 GMT -5
I never said they didnât want to hear from him. They just donât want to hear this particular single, as evidenced by the research.
Corollary: So what if great sales on a record don't match up to positive feedback from radio listeners? The whole point is to make a profit. As long as an artist can move units and make money for the label, it doesn't matter where their audience is. It could be casual radio listeners, a few obsessed fans, etc. In fact, I'm sure the label would much prefer to just release a single that quickly makes them a profit through sales and streaming, instead of taking the long road of calling radio stations day after day for months on end to try to reach a few people who might buy the music and give the label a little bit of return on investment. Obviously, labels would much prefer a sales/streaming hit that instantly makes them money. But as long as we're discussing this single's performance on the exclusively airplay-based charts, we have to look at the reaction from the radio audience. We have separate charts for radio and sales for a reason; they're different audiences. Bottom line is: Find your audience and sell your music to them.
My point was that this didn't deserve to spend two weeks at #1 on the airplay chart because folks listening to the radio aren't enjoying it as much as other records. Of course this is still a hit song. It's clearly earned quite a profit for the label, so it's a success. Now why does radio need to keep playing it?
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Post by Naos on Aug 14, 2019 10:15:11 GMT -5
I never said they didnât want to hear from him. They just donât want to hear this particular single, as evidenced by the research. Corollary: So what if great sales on a record don't match up to positive feedback from radio listeners? The whole point is to make a profit. As long as an artist can move units and make money for the label, it doesn't matter where their audience is. It could be casual radio listeners, a few obsessed fans, etc. In fact, I'm sure the label would much prefer to just release a single that quickly makes them a profit through sales and streaming, instead of taking the long road of calling radio stations day after day for months on end to try to reach a few people who might buy the music and give the label a little bit of return on investment. Obviously, labels would much prefer a sales/streaming hit that instantly makes them money. But as long as we're discussing this single's performance on the exclusively airplay-based charts, we have to look at the reaction from the radio audience. We have separate charts for radio and sales for a reason; they're different audiences. Bottom line is: Find your audience and sell your music to them. My point was that this didn't deserve to spend two weeks at #1 on the airplay chart because folks listening to the radio aren't enjoying it as much as other records. Of course this is still a hit song. It's clearly earned quite a profit for the label, so it's a success. Now why does radio need to keep playing it? Because, where are the sales coming from if not the radio? I'd say the sales and radio audiences are more similar than the sales and streaming audience, but there is certainly crossover. Do people just see the iTunes page and just randomly pick? They have to hear it from somewhere. We have separate charts for radio and sales because they're different formats to listen to. And some chart companies don't track airplay at all, like Japan's Oricon (as they don't like any free form of music listening). It's not reaction from the radio audience. Your randomly selected sample could be flawed for various reasons, not even considering the tiny sample size. Sales and streaming are still a way to see if radio audiences like it. There are a lot of people who don't only listen to radio. If a song sells 50 downloads and gets streamed 1,000 times a week, I think it's pretty obvious audiences don't like it. Radio would be stupid not to play the biggest hits of the year. That's why they can ignore callout a lot of the time, especially if it's a monster hit. Radio's not going to ignore songs on the level of "God's Country" and "Beer Never Broke My Heart" and even "Look What God Gave Her" just because some tiny portion of radio doesn't like it.
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Post by House Lannister on Aug 14, 2019 20:37:04 GMT -5
I've liked his singles, but this might be my favorite of his.
He manages to use alcohol in its proper context in country music. Props.
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Post by Wackadoodle on Aug 16, 2019 19:45:54 GMT -5
I never said they didnât want to hear from him. They just donât want to hear this particular single, as evidenced by the research. Corollary: So what if great sales on a record don't match up to positive feedback from radio listeners? The whole point is to make a profit. As long as an artist can move units and make money for the label, it doesn't matter where their audience is. It could be casual radio listeners, a few obsessed fans, etc. In fact, I'm sure the label would much prefer to just release a single that quickly makes them a profit through sales and streaming, instead of taking the long road of calling radio stations day after day for months on end to try to reach a few people who might buy the music and give the label a little bit of return on investment. Obviously, labels would much prefer a sales/streaming hit that instantly makes them money. But as long as we're discussing this single's performance on the exclusively airplay-based charts, we have to look at the reaction from the radio audience. We have separate charts for radio and sales for a reason; they're different audiences. Bottom line is: Find your audience and sell your music to them. My point was that this didn't deserve to spend two weeks at #1 on the airplay chart because folks listening to the radio aren't enjoying it as much as other records. Of course this is still a hit song. It's clearly earned quite a profit for the label, so it's a success. Now why does radio need to keep playing it? Because, where are the sales coming from if not the radio? I'd say the sales and radio audiences are more similar than the sales and streaming audience, but there is certainly crossover. Do people just see the iTunes page and just randomly pick? They have to hear it from somewhere. We have separate charts for radio and sales because they're different formats to listen to. And some chart companies don't track airplay at all, like Japan's Oricon (as they don't like any free form of music listening). It's not reaction from the radio audience. Your randomly selected sample could be flawed for various reasons, not even considering the tiny sample size. Sales and streaming are still a way to see if radio audiences like it. There are a lot of people who don't only listen to radio. If a song sells 50 downloads and gets streamed 1,000 times a week, I think it's pretty obvious audiences don't like it. Radio would be stupid not to play the biggest hits of the year. That's why they can ignore callout a lot of the time, especially if it's a monster hit. Radio's not going to ignore songs on the level of "God's Country" and "Beer Never Broke My Heart" and even "Look What God Gave Her" just because some tiny portion of radio doesn't like it. Sorry I'm late on responding to this due to the hectic nature of my life, but you raise some decent points here. 1 in 5 listeners disliking a song really isn't that much of a reason to not play the record. And I'm sure some of the people listening to stuff on Spotify and Google Play and downloading it on iTunes are also listening on the radio. And yeah, callout can definitely be flawed. There's the problem with some people not wanting to answer the phone and go through a long survey, especially in this day and age when there's so many robocalls and spam/fraud attempts to steal people's money. I guess it's all about figuring out who those people are who download and stream the song. This song is definitely a hit that pays for itself easily, but figuring out whether it's worth playing on the radio because a lot of people are downloading it is a challenge. What if the people buying and streaming the song are doing so precisely because they don't want to listen to radio and want to add it to their own playlists to listen to while they're exercising, driving, etc.? Playing a song that doesn't test well is a high-risk gamble, and clearly most radio stations were willing to take it. I just feel like we should have separate charts to reward radio, sales and streaming hits. As for your question of where else would they find a song to download besides radio, well there's social media. I personally get tons of advertisements of new music in my email from labels, artists, etc. There's plenty of ways to reach out and tell people there's a new song out besides radio. Maybe radio stations could conduct a survey to figure out who downloads these hit records, where they discovered them, if they're potential radio listeners, etc. It's just a very complicated situation, but radio continues to lose listeners month after month to these digital platforms, so the GP has become increasingly divided on where to get music. Bottom line is, radio's becoming less and less relevant as people find other ways to listen to music. So whether a song "deserves" to be #1 on a radio chart won't even matter that much in the future. Maybe we should start following the sales and streaming charts more intensely and labels should start focusing their promotion budget on them. That's where all the money is, anyway.
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Post by HeyHeyHey on Aug 19, 2019 20:52:00 GMT -5
This one drops 1-2 on Country Airplay and "Even Though I'm Leaving" spends a second week at #58.
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Post by CoJoFan on Aug 21, 2019 10:47:47 GMT -5
"Beer Never Broke My Heart" gets a second week at #1, while lower down on the Billboard Country Airplay Chart "Even Though I'm Leaving" debuts at #58. I really hop if they release another song from The Prequel thatâs its âEven Though Iâm Leavingâ or âMoon Over Mexicoâ.
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Post by bjer127 on Aug 23, 2019 13:34:30 GMT -5
I'm gonna go out on a limb again here, and predict that this album will standalone as a 5-song set, and the next single will be from the Nov 8 album. I also am predicting none of the (5) songs will be on the album, except this single. I just think he has so many songs, and wanted to put this out to hold fans over. I also think we would have gotten a hint of the second single if it came from The Prequel. It wouldn't be smart marketing to market the NEW album with a song from the EP thats been out.
Having said that, the EP named "The Prequel", in itself, kind of hints that it is indeed a sampling. But oh well, I'll roll the dice here...
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Post by gardyfan on Aug 23, 2019 16:23:11 GMT -5
I thought he said a few weeks ago all five songs will be on the album?
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Post by HeyHeyHey on Aug 26, 2019 13:53:07 GMT -5
âEven Though Iâm Leavingâ is up to #55 on Country Airplay this week. I think it would be the right choice as the next single.
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