Soundcl🕤ck
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on May 17, 2019 19:24:14 GMT -5
So why exactly were people here disappointed by the "Old Town Road" video? I didn't really know what to expect but it was pretty cool, I laughed a couple times even. I'm definitely not a big fan of music videos that keep cutting the song to feature acting, but with a song that short I kinda get it. Well...this. People will still listen to audio and lyrics. Hope I'm wrong.
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mzumii
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Post by mzumii on May 17, 2019 21:00:22 GMT -5
Tragic that this couldn't hit #1. Label and management incompetence smh.
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Post by cassiuscasanova on May 17, 2019 22:04:22 GMT -5
Travis & Post track...sigh Cardi & 21 >>>>>> I agree wholeheartedly
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Post by iHype. on May 17, 2019 22:58:17 GMT -5
So after first day at Apple Music:
- Tyler the Creator doing surprisingly well with his album. #1 (solo) song blocking all the DJ Khaled star collabs.
- Khaled’s Nipsey/John Legend collab and Cardi/21 collab will be the two that take off first from his album. Left the SZA track & Post/Travis track in the dust.
- Nightmare is underperforming straight up. Sucks because it’s pretty good, but it definitely isn’t radio-friendly as her last singles.
Khaled’s album should debut #1 on the albums chart, and could get 2 top 10s. Tyler mighttt get a top 10. Halsey will be lucky to debut top 20.
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Mauricio
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Post by Mauricio on May 17, 2019 23:06:31 GMT -5
How is Nightmare underperforming? It's #2 on Itunes and hasn't received a red update yet. As for Apple music, I thinks it's ok being #80 with 30 new songs ahead of it. Let's wait to see hoy many of those 5.4 million views are from the us and for the spotify number. It they are indeed low, then it's underperforming.
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Post by kimberly on May 18, 2019 0:05:32 GMT -5
How is Nightmare underperforming? It's #2 on Itunes and hasn't received a red update yet. As for Apple music, I thinks it's ok being #80 with 30 new songs ahead of it. Let's wait to see hoy many of those 5.4 million views are from the us and for the spotify number. It they are indeed low, then it's underperforming. It is underperforming on Apple Music, which is what the poster was referring to. Indeed, as discussed many many times before, AM has a more urban-leaning demographic so we should definitely wait for Spotify numbers before commenting. It is #7 trending on US youtube while OTR is #1, but I don't understand how trending videos are ranked anyway so I don't know if that ranking tells us something or not
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Post by Mauricio on May 18, 2019 0:17:22 GMT -5
I agree about the trending youtube chart, I think Slipknot was #1 on it as well a couple of hours ago.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 0:33:03 GMT -5
Regardless, it's way too early to tell. Without Me debuted in the 20's (I think?) but thrived because of its insane longevity.
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Post by Enigma. on May 18, 2019 1:17:22 GMT -5
I am personally underwhelmed by the new Halsey: for a song that should cement her super stardom as a solo artist it's kinda flat. Interesting to see how it charts for the first few weeks.
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Post by Abbaschand on May 18, 2019 6:00:47 GMT -5
I already watch this video more than once or twice.
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Post by monkeydluffy on May 18, 2019 8:08:02 GMT -5
I really hope the new Nipsey track has lasting impact
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Post by moonlite on May 18, 2019 8:30:08 GMT -5
Spotify:
- Earfquake debuts at #1 with 2.1 million streams - Nightmare debuts at #18 with 1.1 million streams - Higher is the highest Khaled track at #22 with 917k streams
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on May 18, 2019 9:34:38 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2019/05/18
1(=) Sam Smith & Normani - Dancing with a Stranger 147.02(+0.28) 2(=) Jonas Brothers - Sucker 146.26(+0.72) 3(=) Ava Max - Sweet but Psycho 112.41(+0.35) 4(=) Lil Nas X - Old Town Road (feat. Billy Ray Cyrus) [Remix] 112.19(+0.60) 5(=) Post Malone - Wow. 102.88(-0.19) 6(+2) Taylor Swift - ME! (feat. Brendon Urie of Panic! At The Disco) 92.32(+1.56) 7(-1) Halsey - Without Me 92.26(-2.35) 8(-1) Ariana Grande - break up with your girlfriend, i'm bored 90.87(-0.75) 9(=) Khalid - Talk 90.09(+1.69) 10(=) benny blanco, Halsey & Khalid - Eastside 86.72(-1.48)
14(-2) Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care 63.23(-16.56)
21(+1) Shawn Mendes - If I Can't Have You 57.06(+1.65) 67(+5) Billie Eilish - bad guy 28.26(+1.57)
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Post by Enigma. on May 18, 2019 10:41:09 GMT -5
Spotify: - Earfquake debuts at #1 with 2.1 million streams - Nightmare debuts at #18 with 1.1 million streams - Higher is the highest Khaled track at #22 with 917k streams Tyler will get his biggest Hot 100 hit then! Not sure if it can go top ten though, probably not.
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Post by whales10268 on May 18, 2019 10:41:55 GMT -5
So Halsey should debut in the top 30 with a chance to hit top 10 once radio picks up. But it won’t be a Without Me size hit.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on May 18, 2019 10:51:29 GMT -5
All of Halsey's hits have been growers so there's no reason to dismiss this one based on its first couple days. She's definitely recognizable enough right now but I don't think she's yet reached that point where her songs are instant out-of-the-box smashes so I'd say we can wait a little on this before determining whether it has room to grow or not.
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Post by lazer on May 18, 2019 12:21:59 GMT -5
Well, I underestimated Tyler. Not complaining though.
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Post by Crimsonio on May 18, 2019 12:30:36 GMT -5
Nightmare is already #32 on pop radio, it's coming!
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Post by cedric on May 18, 2019 14:49:41 GMT -5
I'm really hoping these album bombs won't kick out When The Party's Over
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Post by Choco on May 18, 2019 14:58:30 GMT -5
All of Halsey's hits have been growers so there's no reason to dismiss this one based on its first couple days. She's definitely recognizable enough right now but I don't think she's yet reached that point where her songs are instant out-of-the-box smashes so I'd say we can wait a little on this before determining whether it has room to grow or not. This! I don't see why people were expecting Ariana-like numbers just yet. Consistency and long runs are key for Halsey at this stage in her career.
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Post by thegreatdivine on May 18, 2019 18:48:04 GMT -5
All of Halsey's hits have been growers so there's no reason to dismiss this one based on its first couple days. She's definitely recognizable enough right now but I don't think she's yet reached that point where her songs are instant out-of-the-box smashes so I'd say we can wait a little on this before determining whether it has room to grow or not. Even most of Post Malone's hits are growers. They might debut in the top 10/20, but his songs are usually smashes out the gate. They grow into hit records. It's unrealistic to expect that any artist who has had a #1 record before should always have a new single debut in the top 10 to be recognized as a hit. The only thing that matters in the streaming era is consistency.
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Post by divasummer on May 18, 2019 19:36:01 GMT -5
Nightmare is already #32 on pop radio, it's coming! Did it have an hourly deal?? If so that doesn't mean all that much even though it is exciting to see such a debut.
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Post by thegreatdivine on May 18, 2019 19:53:18 GMT -5
So Halsey should debut in the top 30 with a chance to hit top 10 once radio picks up. But it won’t be a Without Me size hit. Probably not, but that's okay. She already has a #1 and will probably score another top 10 with Nightmare. 3 top 10's if she drops another single before her next album and it performs decently enough. That's great. I keep forgetting that Shawn Mendes didn't manage to score a single top 10 record for his last album.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on May 18, 2019 20:16:53 GMT -5
So Halsey should debut in the top 30 with a chance to hit top 10 once radio picks up. But it won’t be a Without Me size hit. I keep forgetting that Shawn Mendes didn't manage to score a single top 10 record for his last album. It's because he released "In My Blood" on Thursday.
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Post by dynamac on May 18, 2019 21:53:16 GMT -5
Where do y’all think Earfquake will debut?
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Post by spicymapping on May 19, 2019 10:56:56 GMT -5
I doubt it. Radio's really shaky at this point and Tyler and Khaled have a good shot at debuting that high.
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Post by thegreatdivine on May 19, 2019 13:46:03 GMT -5
I keep forgetting that Shawn Mendes didn't manage to score a single top 10 record for his last album. It's because he released "In My Blood" on Thursday. That really didn't matter. He didn't drop it with a video and it got a good push on radio. It could have easily grown to reach the top 10, but it didn't.
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Post by owenlovesmusic on May 19, 2019 13:57:42 GMT -5
Could Sweet But Psycho Get Lucky And Join The Top 10 This Week? No
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Post by kcdawg13 on May 19, 2019 23:25:03 GMT -5
Honestly wasn't expecting a track that jacks the sound from early 2010's pop to succeed in the current music climate, so Sweet But Psycho getting that high is already incredible. However #11 is really one of the worst peaks for a song.
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Post by Enigma. on May 20, 2019 10:48:13 GMT -5
I doubt it. Radio's really shaky at this point and Tyler and Khaled have a good shot at debuting that high. Tyler has a tiny chance but Khaled no way.
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