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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Sept 1, 2021 12:06:59 GMT -5
Elton John is on everything!
How does the track list compare to what leaked? Which songs didn’t make it so I can go ahead and check them out?
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Post by kimberly on Sept 1, 2021 12:11:11 GMT -5
Elton John is on everything! How does the track list compare to what leaked? Which songs didn’t make it so I can go ahead and check them out? Empathy f/ Sam Smith Anomaly You Can Awake
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Sept 1, 2021 12:37:32 GMT -5
Kinda shocked Empathy didn't make it, but still excited for this!
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Sept 1, 2021 12:46:06 GMT -5
Maybe there’s a deluxe?
I hope the version of Montero is the Satan extended one.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Sept 1, 2021 13:01:29 GMT -5
an insider on another forum says it's not Nicki Minaj. I'm betting on Doja Cat or Megan Thee Stallion. Sam Smith, Miley Cyrus and Doja Cat are the ones who made the cut No Nicki?! Shocked, tbh.
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Post by Choco on Sept 1, 2021 13:17:19 GMT -5
Sam Smith, Miley Cyrus and Doja Cat are the ones who made the cut No Nicki?! Shocked, tbh. Has she ever acknowledged his existence? Honest question, bc for someone that started his career with so much speculation of his past as a Nicki stan, I don't think she's ever said anything about him.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Sept 1, 2021 13:40:20 GMT -5
Has she ever acknowledged his existence? Honest question, bc for someone that started his career with so much speculation of his past as a Nicki stan, I don't think she's ever said anything about him. Now that you mention it, I don't think she has.
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Post by Snowbeast on Sept 1, 2021 14:20:40 GMT -5
Has she ever acknowledged his existence? Honest question, bc for someone that started his career with so much speculation of his past as a Nicki stan, I don't think she's ever said anything about him. Now that you mention it, I don't think she has. He went for the Cardi feature right as she was being subjected to death by a thousand cuts. If I were Nicki, I’d forgive, but I wouldn’t forget.
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Post by kimberly on Sept 1, 2021 14:24:21 GMT -5
Has she ever acknowledged his existence? Honest question, bc for someone that started his career with so much speculation of his past as a Nicki stan, I don't think she's ever said anything about him. yes. but like Snowbeast said, she forgave him but I don't think she's forgotten.
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Post by yog on Sept 1, 2021 14:54:45 GMT -5
Not so fast
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Post by bat1990 on Sept 1, 2021 14:57:52 GMT -5
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Post by circadian on Sept 1, 2021 14:58:32 GMT -5
Yes, I'm sure he has a deluxe or a rerelease planned. There's no way they're going to pass the chance of releasing a song with the other most prominent contemporary gay artist right now.
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Post by wjr15 on Sept 1, 2021 14:59:00 GMT -5
Probably saving it for a deluxe/Target edition or a future re-release.
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Post by Choco on Sept 1, 2021 15:01:26 GMT -5
Either a deluxe or it's being kept for Sam's album.
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Post by Snowbeast on Sept 1, 2021 15:03:43 GMT -5
So like, his entire album is on YouTube already? Anyone else would be absolutely fucked if that happens. Odd that it’s such a non-event with still just under 3 weeks before release?
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Post by yog on Sept 1, 2021 15:16:06 GMT -5
Either a deluxe or it's being kept for Sam's album. The album is still being recorded as of last week, this is likely for the deluxe
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Sept 1, 2021 19:22:32 GMT -5
That whole thing with barbs and Nicki giving him shit (saying it stung, gtfo) for not claiming he had a stan account and was a Nicki stan before he was out is dumb AF and so is everyone who plays stupid about it. Every damn lgbtq person knows what the optics would be if he had claimed it. We all hid certain things here and there out of fear of outing ourselves growing up. Shame on ANYONE who gave him shit for that honestly.
And glad to see there are plans for Empathy.
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Post by kimberly on Sept 1, 2021 19:33:36 GMT -5
That whole thing with barbs and Nicki giving him s**t (saying it stung, gtfo) for not claiming he had a stan account and was a Nicki stan before he was out is dumb AF and so is everyone who plays stupid about it. Every damn lgbtq person knows what the optics would be if he had claimed it. We all hid certain things here and there out of fear of outing ourselves growing up. Shame on ANYONE who gave him s**t for that honestly. And glad to see there are plans for Empathy. Nicki literally said that. part 1: IT STUNG (that you denied being a barb for a whole year after coming out even though your stan account and likeness for my music is what gave you your start) part 2: BUT I UNDERSTAND. (why you wouldn't want to reveal you're gay as an up-and-coming hiphop artist, or reveal you're a barb at a time when people were turning on me.) She then congratulated him on getting himself to the point in his career & life where he can finally confirm what everyone already knew. Where in there is she giving him shit? You just trying to start shit.
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Post by Caviar on Sept 1, 2021 20:13:07 GMT -5
Lord she isn’t even on the album and people are triggered.
Can’t wait for this to drop.
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Post by Au$tin on Sept 1, 2021 20:21:00 GMT -5
"you shouldn't know that exists" 💀
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Sept 1, 2021 20:28:54 GMT -5
That whole thing with barbs and Nicki giving him s**t (saying it stung, gtfo) for not claiming he had a stan account and was a Nicki stan before he was out is dumb AF and so is everyone who plays stupid about it. Every damn lgbtq person knows what the optics would be if he had claimed it. We all hid certain things here and there out of fear of outing ourselves growing up. Shame on ANYONE who gave him s**t for that honestly. And glad to see there are plans for Empathy. Nicki literally said that. part 1: IT STUNG (that you denied being a barb for a whole year after coming out even though your stan account and likeness for my music is what gave you your start) part 2: BUT I UNDERSTAND. (why you wouldn't want to reveal you're gay as an up-and-coming hiphop artist, or reveal you're a barb at a time when people were turning on me.) She then congratulated him on getting himself to the point in his career & life where he can finally confirm what everyone already knew. Where in there is she giving him s**t? You just trying to start s**t. Nicki knows damn well the power of her barbs (as she has personally directed them against many people in the past, even running people offline) and knows damn well her stans were dragging him up and down and she knew even acknowledging publicly that it hurt her in any way would only bolster them to go even harder. She KNEW the ONLY reason he denied her to begin with was tied to his sexuality and the perception surrounding it. Her knowing that and if she truly understood that, it shouldn't have hurt her or "stung" her at all. Period. As it had nothing to do with her and everything to do with how society is shaped to judge men, especially men of color, who stan female artists. It's not as if he bashed her publicly. It's about as ridiculous as Nicki stans saying he is only mentioning her now for clout. And I don't buy one bit that he didn't claim Nicki because she was getting backlash or because people "turned" on her. I would be my life it was specifically about his sexuality and the optics alone. I love Nicki, but I said what I said, I meant what I said, and that's all I am gonna say on it. =)
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Post by SHOOTER on Sept 1, 2021 21:38:14 GMT -5
Since we’re in his thread, I’m happy for LIL NAS X and his album release.
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Post by Snowbeast on Sept 1, 2021 21:42:13 GMT -5
Nicki literally said that. part 1: IT STUNG (that you denied being a barb for a whole year after coming out even though your stan account and likeness for my music is what gave you your start) part 2: BUT I UNDERSTAND. (why you wouldn't want to reveal you're gay as an up-and-coming hiphop artist, or reveal you're a barb at a time when people were turning on me.) She then congratulated him on getting himself to the point in his career & life where he can finally confirm what everyone already knew. Where in there is she giving him s**t? You just trying to start s**t. Nicki knows damn well the power of her barbs (as she has personally directed them against many people in the past, even running people offline) and knows damn well her stans were dragging him up and down and she knew even acknowledging publicly that it hurt her in any way would only bolster them to go even harder. She KNEW the ONLY reason he denied her to begin with was tied to his sexuality and the perception surrounding it. Her knowing that and if she truly understood that, it shouldn't have hurt her or "stung" her at all. Period. As it had nothing to do with her and everything to do with how society is shaped to judge men, especially men of color, who stan female artists. It's not as if he bashed her publicly. It's about as ridiculous as Nicki stans saying he is only mentioning her now for clout. And I don't buy one bit that he didn't claim Nicki because she was getting backlash or because people "turned" on her. I would be my life it was specifically about his sexuality and the optics alone. I love Nicki, but I said what I said, I meant what I said, and that's all I am gonna say on it. =) You’re missing the key point. It wasn’t the denial. It was the denial AND then enlisting her arch nemesis as the sole rap feature on his debut EP. As a “Barb”, he knows the weight that knife carries. Nicki don’t owe him shit. You don’t need to buy a ticket in support of her funeral to show you’re not gay, or a stan. Her response was MORE than understanding and kind.
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Post by yog on Sept 1, 2021 22:14:01 GMT -5
"you shouldn't know that exists" 💀 That took me out a bit
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Post by Mike on Sept 1, 2021 22:15:46 GMT -5
Any predictions for first week numbers? I’m thinking 200k but I’m not great at predictions I could be way off lol
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Post by Caviar on Sept 1, 2021 22:20:26 GMT -5
130k on the low end
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Post by Anticonformity on Sept 2, 2021 0:34:20 GMT -5
I'm so HYPED... the leak has been such a bop! Like legit top 5 album of the year...
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Post by Choco on Sept 2, 2021 10:12:10 GMT -5
I think closer to 100k than 200k, but he is very marketing savvy. We'll see.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Sept 2, 2021 10:21:55 GMT -5
What more can there be?!
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