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Post by #LisaRinna on Jun 23, 2019 8:16:31 GMT -5
OTR lost 6+ million US views on Youtube on the week ending 06/20 according to kworb.
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Post by fhas on Jun 23, 2019 8:21:46 GMT -5
#LilNasXIsOverParty is trending on Twitter. Nicki stans really want to end him because of him not being a stan anymore lol Stans = retarded people
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Jun 23, 2019 9:09:02 GMT -5
OTR lost 6+ million US views on Youtube on the week ending 06/20 according to kworb. I think OTR will have around 85 million streams this week (which is still huge), but it will rebound next week again.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jun 23, 2019 9:20:28 GMT -5
A 14 million loss is still big.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2019 9:23:08 GMT -5
If OTR wasn't so massive we would potentially be looking at two #1 debuts for Shawn Mendes right now. That's crazy.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 23, 2019 9:33:12 GMT -5
OTR lost 6+ million US views on Youtube on the week ending 06/20 according to kworb. I think OTR will have around 85 million streams this week (which is still huge), but it will rebound next week again. That's the thing. He'll have a huge rebound next week, which also happens to be the week Shawn's new song debuts. If only Shawn had dropped this song next week, he'd have a #1 debut on his hands, EASY because I think after the debut week of Shawn's new song, OTR will see a massive drop in points. If anyone huge drops next week, they could potentially debut at #1.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jun 23, 2019 9:34:53 GMT -5
I don't see this OTR rebound being huge. People are going to stream the other tracks on the EP more because of the novelty. See how "Panini" is already #1 on Spotify.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Jun 23, 2019 9:38:13 GMT -5
I don't see this OTR rebound being huge. People are going to stream the other tracks on the EP more because of the novelty. See how "Panini" is already #1 on Spotify. OTR is #1 on US Spotify OTR 1,890,386 (2 versions combined) Panini 1,868,113
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jun 23, 2019 9:39:46 GMT -5
I don't see this OTR rebound being huge. People are going to stream the other tracks on the EP more because of the novelty. See how "Panini" is already #1 on Spotify. OTR is #1 on US Spotify OTR 1,890,386 (2 versions combined) Panini 1,868,113 Wow a 22k difference with 2 versions combined! Huge rebound!
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Post by Xander on Jun 23, 2019 9:40:01 GMT -5
Well. Senorita is stable and panini still relatively stable. It didn’t crash and burn on Spotify.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 23, 2019 9:40:46 GMT -5
I don't see this OTR rebound being huge. People are going to stream the other tracks on the EP more because of the novelty. See how "Panini" is already #1 on Spotify. OTR is #1 on US Spotify OTR 1,890,386 (2 versions combined) Panini 1,868,113 It'll also get a nice little boost on Apple Music and on YouTube. It helps that he released a 7 song EP and 2 out of the 7 songs are the original/remix version of OTR, both of which count towards the version that's currently #1 on the Hot 100 chart.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 23, 2019 9:42:08 GMT -5
Well. Senorita is stable and panini still relatively stable. It didn’t crash and burn on Spotify. I'm legit shocked by Señorita's performance. Seems like everybody is. Panini could debut in the top 10 if it continues to hold on Apple Music.
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Post by fhas on Jun 23, 2019 9:44:08 GMT -5
I think OTR will have around 85 million streams this week (which is still huge), but it will rebound next week again. That's the thing. He'll have a huge rebound next week, which also happens to be the week Shawn's new song debuts. If only Shawn had dropped this song next week, he'd have a #1 debut on his hands, EASY because I think after the debut week of Shawn's new song, OTR will see a massive drop in points. If anyone huge drops next week, they could potentially debut at #1. Easy? 7 rings and (MAYBE) ME! are the only debuts in the past 16 months (after God's Plan's 74k in February 2018) that had more points than what OTR is projected to have this week (64-69k). In fact, this year OTR (11x), 7 rings (2x) and ME! (1x) are the only songs that reached 50k points. Señorita isn't #1 in any metric right now and it's not performing better than Sucker in its first two days, for example. It's possible that it debuts at #2 but not with a huge amount of points.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 23, 2019 9:48:51 GMT -5
Señorita rose to 7.3 million streams on Saturday. That's a great increase and great numbers for Shawn, but that Spotify counter had me thinking it had increased to like 10 million streams. It should increase again on Sunday. Seems like most of the increase of it's streams came from Asian markets. Pays to be a global artist.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Jun 23, 2019 9:48:57 GMT -5
OTR is #1 on US Spotify OTR 1,890,386 (2 versions combined) Panini 1,868,113 Wow a 22k difference with 2 versions combined! Huge rebound! I get that you hate this song, but OTR has more streams than #2 and #3 songs on Streaming. Combined.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jun 23, 2019 9:49:44 GMT -5
Wow a 22k difference with 2 versions combined! Huge rebound! I get that you hate this song, but OTR has 50 million streams more than #2 song on Streaming. Me liking or hating the song is not the subject at hand. How about you admit that the rebound isn't HUGE like you expected it to be? 22k streams isn't HUGE.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 23, 2019 9:54:22 GMT -5
That's the thing. He'll have a huge rebound next week, which also happens to be the week Shawn's new song debuts. If only Shawn had dropped this song next week, he'd have a #1 debut on his hands, EASY because I think after the debut week of Shawn's new song, OTR will see a massive drop in points. If anyone huge drops next week, they could potentially debut at #1. Easy? 7 rings and (MAYBE) ME! are the only debuts in the past 16 months (after God's Plan's 74k in February 2018) that had more points than what OTR is projected to have this week (64-69k). In fact, this year OTR (11x), 7 rings (2x) and ME! (1x) are the only songs that reached 50k points. Señorita isn't #1 in any metric right now and it's not performing better than Sucker in its first two days, for example. It's possible that it debuts at #2 but not with a huge amount of points. Since it's debuting in the same week that Lil Nas X's EP will be debuting, it won't have enough points to debut at #1, but I see OTR dropping enough in points to be overtaken in the week following that huge boost. I get your point, but it also depends on how Señorita performs during the rest of the week. If it keeps rising on Apple Music US, holds on iTunes US, Spotify US and gets good radio updates, it could very well surpass 50k points. Of course, none of that would be enough for a #1 debut. I've had Señorita debuting at #2 since it's release day.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Jun 23, 2019 9:55:58 GMT -5
I get that you hate this song, but OTR has 50 million streams more than #2 song on Streaming. Me liking or hating the song is not the subject at hand. How about you admit that the rebound isn't HUGE like you expected it to be? 22k streams isn't HUGE. I didn't say it will be a HUGE rebound, just rebound. He released his EP, he's performing tonight at the BET awards.
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Post by fhas on Jun 23, 2019 9:58:55 GMT -5
Me liking or hating the song is not the subject at hand. How about you admit that the rebound isn't HUGE like you expected it to be? 22k streams isn't HUGE. I didn't say it will be a HUGE rebound, just rebound. He released his EP, he's performing tonight at the BET awards. Ugh... just ignore her. She's been hating the song since OTR got close to the record that her fave (and seven other artists) hold.
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Post by fhas on Jun 23, 2019 10:04:51 GMT -5
Easy? 7 rings and (MAYBE) ME! are the only debuts in the past 16 months (after God's Plan's 74k in February 2018) that had more points than what OTR is projected to have this week (64-69k). In fact, this year OTR (11x), 7 rings (2x) and ME! (1x) are the only songs that reached 50k points. Señorita isn't #1 in any metric right now and it's not performing better than Sucker in its first two days, for example. It's possible that it debuts at #2 but not with a huge amount of points. Since it's debuting in the same week that Lil Nas X's EP will be debuting, it won't have enough points to debut at #1, but I see OTR dropping enough in points to be overtaken in the week following that huge boost. I get your point, but it also depends on how Señorita performs during the rest of the week. If it keeps rising on Apple Music US, holds on iTunes US, Spotify US and gets good radio updates, it could very well surpass 50k points. Of course, none of that would be enough for a #1 debut. I've had Señorita debuting at #2 since it's release day. I used 50k as an example because it feels like the standard for a strong #1, but it would need ~60k to beat OTR even without the EP release. The key factor with Señorita's debut is the local-global ratio of its YT streams.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jun 23, 2019 10:05:17 GMT -5
I didn't say it will be a HUGE rebound, just rebound. He released his EP, he's performing tonight at the BET awards. Ugh... just ignore her. She's been hating the song since OTR got close to the record that her fave (and seven other artists) hold. Shut up, you don't know anything about me. Keep worrying about your imaginary stats and flop artists.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jun 23, 2019 10:05:57 GMT -5
Me liking or hating the song is not the subject at hand. How about you admit that the rebound isn't HUGE like you expected it to be? 22k streams isn't HUGE. I didn't say it will be a HUGE rebound, just rebound. He released his EP, he's performing tonight at the BET awards. Okay. We shall see
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jun 23, 2019 10:09:52 GMT -5
OTR ftw
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 23, 2019 11:04:34 GMT -5
fhas of course. Because we only discuss the Hot 100, it kinda sucks that artists pull massive numbers but only a fraction of that goes to the US. Shawn will just have to settle for a decent debut. Thing with his songs is they never stay long in the top 10. He'll be out of there in no time.
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Post by fhas on Jun 23, 2019 11:10:24 GMT -5
fhas of course. Because we only discuss the Hot 100, it kinda sucks that artists pull massive numbers but only a fraction of that goes to the US. Shawn will just have to settle for a decent debut. Thing with his songs is they never stay long in the top 10. He'll be out of there in no time. Yeah... IICHY debuted at #2 on U.S. YouTube and it's already out of the top 100.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Jun 23, 2019 11:22:49 GMT -5
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Post by kacpi on Jun 23, 2019 11:43:30 GMT -5
OTR is #1 on US Spotify OTR 1,890,386 (2 versions combined) Panini 1,868,113 Wow a 22k difference with 2 versions combined! Huge rebound! Three days ago it had less than 1.5 million streams from 2 versions combined, so I think 400k additional streams is a solid rebound.
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Post by spicymapping on Jun 23, 2019 11:53:02 GMT -5
Worth it officially hitting a new peak on spotify after a couple months in free fall please for the love of god let it make the year end
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 23, 2019 11:57:54 GMT -5
^It's all due to EP release though and expected.
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Post by highho on Jun 23, 2019 12:21:39 GMT -5
I'm beyond happy that Senorita held its Spotify / streaming numbers even just for this weekend just cause some people are stating that it will crash and burn, repetitively, I may add.
It's funny when some PREDICTIONS are so confidently stated like they are FACTS LOL. The song is really catchy tho.
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