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Post by Maximillian on Sept 7, 2019 12:37:13 GMT -5
I’m willing to bet money she books an SNL spot and does both songs.
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Post by Juan Carlos on Sept 7, 2019 12:40:50 GMT -5
I’m willing to bet money she books an SNL spot and does both songs. I think that you missed the news, right?
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Post by Maximillian on Sept 7, 2019 12:53:25 GMT -5
I’m willing to bet money she books an SNL spot and does both songs. I think that you missed the news, right? Hahaha, yep! Good for her though. Glad to see promo.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2019 13:01:25 GMT -5
I'm hoping she performs this live at SNL with the same thematic imagery from the video especially cause this is gonna be October It would be a perfect fit, hopefully she does just that
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Sept 7, 2019 13:37:51 GMT -5
A friend who was commissioned to remix this says that the vocals are out of key during the chorus with the production and that melodyning them to fit his new production doesn’t help. They sound fine to me and my ears.
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Post by leonagwen on Sept 7, 2019 15:16:38 GMT -5
Where are the people who said both songs were flopping on streaming yesterday? Typical post from you. Am I surprised? I'm not. Why am I replying to you? I don't know. Why am I quoting your post? Because I expect you're going to delete it if I don't do that. Just go outside, take a deep breath and enjoy your life. One of your favourite artists have dropped not one, but two songs in a day and you should focus on that instead of being so bitter and defensive in your replies when someone says something negative about them and the songs you like. Ok thanks for the advice.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2019 15:30:52 GMT -5
A friend who was commissioned to remix this says that the vocals are out of key during the chorus with the production and that melodyning them to fit his new production doesn’t help. They sound fine to me and my ears. If I had to guess what he meant by that, then I would say it could at least partially be when she says the “-less” high note in the word “shameless”; the note she is singing there is a B natural, which clashes with the C major chord that the bassline is suggesting during that syllable, as it is only a half step apart and does not technically fit. And the reason that you may not hear or notice is because the bassline is fairly quiet compared to the vocals, and is also a few octaves below Camila’s note, thus making any potential dissonance very minimal and unnoticeable if you are not looking for it. Also, yikes that ended up being longer than I thought it would.
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Post by Keelzit on Sept 7, 2019 18:56:08 GMT -5
I'll be laughing my ass of once the tracklist of the album drops and one of these 2 songs gets OMG'ed. Hopefully it's not this one because it shows artistic growth.
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 8, 2019 6:21:35 GMT -5
POP: -- 40 CAMILA CABELLO Shameless 1147 0 1147 8.206
+221 Spins +221 Bullet +1.020 Audience
HOT AC: -- 49 CAMILA CABELLO Shameless 157 0 157 1.259
+14 Spins +14 Bullet +0.089 Audience
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Post by #LisaRinna on Sept 8, 2019 9:14:29 GMT -5
"Liar" outspun.
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Post by leonagwen on Sept 8, 2019 9:31:00 GMT -5
Both songs are doing good.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Sept 8, 2019 9:32:56 GMT -5
Both songs are doing good. +241 spins > +221 spins Maths is not an opinion.
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Post by leonagwen on Sept 8, 2019 9:45:55 GMT -5
Both songs are doing good. +241 spins > +221 spins Maths is not an opinion. I'm in the minority, I like Shameless more.
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Post by Lumi on Sept 8, 2019 13:48:25 GMT -5
General public seems to like "Liar" more, but the fans seem to enjoy "Shameless" more. I'm in the "Shameless" boat. It shows growth, and it's just the overall better song personally.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2019 13:51:06 GMT -5
This will be the h it, don't forget when OMG and Havana was released OMG had the bigger start and was the more liked song
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Post by tinawina on Sept 8, 2019 13:55:31 GMT -5
I don’t think the difference in the performance of both songs is big enough to really mean anything. Right now I’d say their both doing fine.
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Post by leonagwen on Sept 8, 2019 14:11:01 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see how the adds pan out on Tuesday.
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Post by breathingrande on Sept 8, 2019 14:54:26 GMT -5
The melody & hook is great but the production & the postchorus drop are a little grating + her forced vocals don't help. A shame...
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Post by Okay on Sept 8, 2019 15:27:45 GMT -5
I prefer Shameless over Liar but both songs have the same problems with her vocals. 7 Rings was also sorta ruined by the autotuning of Ari's beautiful voice, but unlike her I'm not sure if getting rid of those effects are gonna make Camila sound any better.
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Sept 8, 2019 16:59:40 GMT -5
Camila’s vocals are actually what makes the song for me. I do love an unconventional and instantly recognizable vocal performance. The rasp is the icing on the cake.
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Post by Choco on Sept 8, 2019 21:47:20 GMT -5
We keep shitting on her vocals yet we all end up enjoying the songs anyways lol.
She's got what's probably the best team in the business behind her right now. The material is always at least decent. Even on her album the filler was tolerable, vocals be damned.
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Post by leonagwen on Sept 8, 2019 22:50:27 GMT -5
We keep shitting on her vocals yet we all end up enjoying the songs anyways lol. She's got what's probably the best team in the business behind her right now. The material is always at least decent. Even on her album the filler was tolerable, vocals be damned. She must be doing something right, she did sell out almost every gig on her tour last year.
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 9, 2019 9:17:33 GMT -5
POP: -- 37 CAMILA CABELLO Shameless 1324 0 1324 9.113
+177 Spins +177 Bullet +0.907 Audience
HOT AC: -- 47 CAMILA CABELLO Shameless 166 0 166 1.277
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Post by Mayman on Sept 9, 2019 14:26:16 GMT -5
This is my favorite song from her since Never Be The Same.
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Post by leonagwen on Sept 9, 2019 14:54:57 GMT -5
This is my favorite song from her since Never Be The Same. I agree with you.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Sept 9, 2019 15:08:29 GMT -5
In my daily commutes to work I've heard Liar 4 times, 3 times on my local Pop station and once on the Rhythmic station. I only heard Shameless once and that was on my way back home from work at like 11pm.
I don't know what's going to happen with these two tracks, artists like Post Malone and Ariana Grande can have multiple songs on the same format at the same time and have it work, but I'm not sure if Camila is really there yet at this point. What I predict is that both tracks will flounder around the Top 40 for a few weeks until Pop decides which song it likes better. They'll probably debut on the call-outs and the more dominant song will win. Unfortunately I feel like Liar is gonna be the track that's gonna win the race, even though I like it, Shameless is a lot better. However Liar is a lot more easy listening, and Shameless feels like the kind of song Pop hates. It gives me a Taylor Swift Reputation era vibe, which is not good for the track in the long run. But Pop audiences seem to like Camila a lot more than Taylor right now so she should be fine, maybe.
So many variables, I personally think releasing two songs to radio at once was a bad idea, cuz you're basically asking DJ's and the audience to pick what song they like better. But only time will tell.
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Post by Au$tin on Sept 9, 2019 17:00:41 GMT -5
Oh now this one I like! So of course that means Liar will be the hit.
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Post by leonagwen on Sept 9, 2019 21:56:43 GMT -5
Camila will be performing at the Iheart music festival in September.
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Post by ilikemusic on Sept 10, 2019 1:29:04 GMT -5
She sounds horrible in this
I don’t understand why she insists on singing squeakier and shriller as she progresses throughout her career, her tone is bizarre not and in a good way
Liar is going to be the hit, this one is just really hard to listen to as someone who would be considered a “GP member”
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Post by born on Sept 10, 2019 4:43:41 GMT -5
This is my favorite song from her since Never Be The Same. I agree with you. And I third that.
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