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Post by Ling-Ling on Sept 6, 2019 6:29:03 GMT -5
I saw both of them live and Jessie is the superior vocalist but you have a point Camila has more Usa chart success. Please, never change.
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 6, 2019 6:37:56 GMT -5
POP: -- 46 CAMILA CABELLO Shameless 735 0 735 6.090
+735 Spins +735 Bullet +6.090 Audience
HOT AC: -- 49 CAMILA CABELLO Shameless 127 0 127 1.060
+127 Spins +127 Bullet +1.060 Audience
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Post by Keelzit on Sept 6, 2019 8:07:33 GMT -5
After listening to this song 'nails on a chalkboard' never made more sense . YIKES
I like the overall direction and the post-chorus though + the Mexican witchcraft vibes of the video kept me interested enough to finish it.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Sept 6, 2019 8:28:54 GMT -5
Cute, but her enunciation sucks in this.
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Post by hitmakaontharise on Sept 6, 2019 9:17:32 GMT -5
All i hear is "Where Have U Been" in the background lmao
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Post by rfucom on Sept 6, 2019 9:41:34 GMT -5
POP:-- 46 CAMILA CABELLO Shameless 735 0 735 6.090 +735 Spins +735 Bullet +6.090 Audience HOT AC:-- 49 CAMILA CABELLO Shameless 127 0 127 1.060 +127 Spins +127 Bulletu +1.060 Audience Radio deal?
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Post by rfucom on Sept 6, 2019 9:52:03 GMT -5
Very low spotify debut.
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Post by kimberly on Sept 6, 2019 11:21:03 GMT -5
Debuts at #104 on global Spotify with 891,763 streams, Liar is ahead at #90 with 944,818.
Debuts at #147 on US Spotify with 250,331 streams, Liar is ahead at #88 with 345,573.
This is obviously lower than what she can do because it was an 8 am release. Also these Thursday streams won't matter because we know these two aint debuting on Hot 100 this week.
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Post by Nick P on Sept 6, 2019 11:23:41 GMT -5
she just doesn’t sound good here
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Post by divasummer on Sept 6, 2019 11:47:21 GMT -5
Part and parcel with the screechy vocals, this doesn't work for me because it's way too melodramatic and faux-intense, qualities she can't sell despite her repeated attempts to do so ("Never Be The Same," "Consequences," that silly promo video she released last week). "Liar" is way more fun and plays to her strengths. I think you hit the nail on the head. Thank you! I like her but there's something about her "emotion fueled" midtempos that just don't connect with me. I think you just spelled out the reason for me. I'm team "Liar" so far as well but don't dislike this. It's just not my favorite out of the two. Like you said "Liar" is just better suited for her.
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Post by tinawina on Sept 6, 2019 11:49:04 GMT -5
Well I think Liar is the more streaming-friendly song, it should rise on Spotify worldwide and do well there in the long run... especially after she releases the video.
Post Malone is going to dominate there for the next couple of weeks regardless.
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Post by divasummer on Sept 6, 2019 11:49:08 GMT -5
POP:-- 46 CAMILA CABELLO Shameless 735 0 735 6.090 +735 Spins +735 Bullet +6.090 Audience HOT AC:-- 49 CAMILA CABELLO Shameless 127 0 127 1.060 +127 Spins +127 Bulletu +1.060 Audience Radio deal? I believe someone said "Shameless" and "Liar" had deals and stations were playing one or the other every hour. I don't know if this is true or not though.
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Post by leonagwen on Sept 6, 2019 13:55:33 GMT -5
First of all, it was released at 8am instead of 12am, so it lost 8 hours of streams, also she released 2 songs, which kind of competed with each other. Dont be so negative, it's only been one friggin day!!
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Lumi
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Post by Lumi on Sept 6, 2019 14:27:51 GMT -5
Yeah.... cause it didn't have a full day of streams lol.
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Post by Maximillian on Sept 6, 2019 14:34:40 GMT -5
I love Camila, and these are both two perfectly fine songs... but after a day of listening, blasting in my car, etc... it’s just not clicking for me. Not in the instant way several songs on her first album hit. It doesn’t feel believable from her, and I think, particularly Shameless, could have used a bit more work in the verses and bridge to have them stand out more.
I feel like 85% of the song is pre chorus / chorus / post chorus and it gets hugely repetitive and slightly annoying with how the mixing is done to her vocals.
It’s cute with some elements I like, but will burn out fast on me.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Sept 6, 2019 14:59:03 GMT -5
WW iTunes chart
#1 Señorita #2 Shameless #3 Liar
WW Queen
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Post by skizzo on Sept 6, 2019 15:13:47 GMT -5
I like this much better than Liar, but I think Liar is far more radio friendly
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Post by Active Aggressive on Sept 6, 2019 17:25:09 GMT -5
Didn't have a desire to play Liar again after the first listen but hearing this on my headphones at full volume really exposed her corroded vocal cords. My lord...where is that guitar riff from tho? It reminds me of the riff that opens up the I Think She Knows section of LoveStoned, which sounds like a ripoff of Interpol.
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Post by Exclusive on Sept 6, 2019 18:30:19 GMT -5
Nice song terrible vocals. They should drop this and focus on "Liar".
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Post by Lumi on Sept 6, 2019 20:05:34 GMT -5
I haven't been able to take this off repeat. Obsessed with the production, and I love the raspiness in her vocals in the chorus.
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 7, 2019 8:02:34 GMT -5
POP: -- 42 CAMILA CABELLO Shameless 926 0 926 7.186
+191 Spins +191 Bullet +1.096 Audience
HOT AC: -- 48 CAMILA CABELLO Shameless 143 0 143 1.170
+16 Spins +16 Bullet +0.110 Audience
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Post by David on Sept 7, 2019 9:04:28 GMT -5
Not bad on first listen.... not great, but not bad. Maybe it'll grow on me.
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Post by Mayman on Sept 7, 2019 9:12:54 GMT -5
It would be cool to see them work both singles at once without focusing mainly on one song. Unlikely to happen, but imagine if they hit #1 back to back.
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Post by Normi on Sept 7, 2019 9:56:24 GMT -5
It would be cool to see them work both singles at once without focusing mainly on one song. Unlikely to happen, but imagine if they hit #1 back to back. I wish... These songs are fantastic! She really made a mini-fan of me recently between this release and Find U Again (+ Senorita)
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Post by Mayman on Sept 7, 2019 10:06:13 GMT -5
#48 on US Spotify.
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Post by g8erboi on Sept 7, 2019 11:04:00 GMT -5
I could see either one of these taking off and climbing to the top, or both of them climbing together and peaking in the teens.
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Post by born on Sept 7, 2019 11:18:23 GMT -5
I’m loving this. It’s not the song I can have on repeat for hours but every time I play it I’m thrilled.
I also like the vocals now & the accent isn’t as distracting (don’t mean this in a bad way).
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Post by leonagwen on Sept 7, 2019 12:04:16 GMT -5
Where are the people who said both songs were flopping on streaming yesterday?
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Post by Juan Carlos on Sept 7, 2019 12:21:49 GMT -5
Where are the people who said both songs were flopping on streaming yesterday? Typical post from you. Am I surprised? I'm not. Why am I replying to you? I don't know. Why am I quoting your post? Because I expect you're going to delete it if I don't do that. Just go outside, take a deep breath and enjoy your life. One of your favourite artists have dropped not one, but two songs in a day and you should focus on that instead of being so bitter and defensive in your replies when someone says something negative about them and the songs you like.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2019 12:33:36 GMT -5
Yeah I am infatuated with this song and the video's imagery Liar still really isn't doing it for me aside from the intro, her breathy vocals during the 2nd verse and bridge, and the outro.
Anyways, I really hope this manages to do well but I would not be surprised if this performs identically to Halsey's Nightmare
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