Kris
2x Platinum Member
Joined: June 2013
Posts: 2,222 
|
Post by Kris on Aug 18, 2019 19:12:42 GMT -5
Black & Yellow reached #1 on the Hot 100 dated as February 19, 2011. It peaked at #2 on Hot Digital Sales and #7 on Radio Songs. Raise Your Glass (Dec. 11, 2010) is the other song this decade that reached #1 without hitting #1 on radio/sales (streaming chart didn't exist in 2010/11). Raise Your Glass wasn't #1 on sales? What kept it from the top spot? Firework ? I think? |
|
fhas
3x Platinum Member
Three-time World Champions: 1992 - 2-1 vs. Barcelona, 1993 - 3-2 vs. Milan, 2005 - 1-0 vs. Liverpool
|
Post by fhas on Aug 18, 2019 19:18:30 GMT -5
Black & Yellow reached #1 on the Hot 100 dated as February 19, 2011. It peaked at #2 on Hot Digital Sales and #7 on Radio Songs. Raise Your Glass (Dec. 11, 2010) is the other song this decade that reached #1 without hitting #1 on radio/sales (streaming chart didn't exist in 2010/11). Raise Your Glass wasn't #1 on sales? What kept it from the top spot? Firework. RYG was #2 on HDS that week losing by 23k to Katy's song (232k vs. 209k). |
|
sam8432
Charting
Joined: August 2017
Posts: 250
|
Post by sam8432 on Aug 18, 2019 19:22:04 GMT -5
Hmmm.... ya, looks like SICKO MODE hit #1 without ever having hit #1 in any component, although it did later hit #1 in streaming. |
|
Choco
Diamond Member
james dean daydream
Joined: February 2009
Posts: 27,985
My Charts
Pronouns: he/him
|
Post by Choco on Aug 18, 2019 19:36:15 GMT -5
I just really hate all the hyper-focus on Bad Guy or whatever #2 song not reaching #1, and how it's somehow this tragic, disastrous calamity. So just because a song doesn't reach THE ABSOLUTE POLE POSITION, and is "just" in 2nd place (even if it's for a possible record 10+ weeks mind you!), it's still somehow a failure and will be forgotten in the anals of chart/popular music history? Yeah, I'm sure no one remembers that obscure no. 2 Bad Romance, and that the masterpiece Tik Tok is heralded far above it, and that that nothing of a ballad Beautiful is completely lost to the timeless classic that is Bump, Bump, Bump. Seriously people, can we calm the f*** down.  |
|
85la
3x Platinum Member
Joined: July 2007
Posts: 3,919
|
Post by 85la on Aug 18, 2019 20:59:41 GMT -5
Uh... I don't see anyone making the claim that it won't be remembered. It's just awesome to see a song go #1, dude. Especially when it's so close. I think we're all smart enough to know being #2 is still a great thing, chill. 💊 I just really hate all the hyper-focus on Bad Guy or whatever #2 song not reaching #1, and how it's somehow this tragic, disastrous calamity. So just because a song doesn't reach THE ABSOLUTE POLE POSITION, and is "just" in 2nd place (even if it's for a possible record 10+ weeks mind you!), it's still somehow a failure and will be forgotten in the anals of chart/popular music history? Yeah, I'm sure no one remembers that obscure no. 2 Bad Romance, and that the masterpiece Tik Tok is heralded far above it, and that that nothing of a ballad Beautiful is completely lost to the timeless classic that is Bump, Bump, Bump. Seriously people, can we calm the f*** down. I won't be as petty as to quote individual posts, and obviously I was using hyperbole when I said that other people were saying "certain songs won't be remembered" or "will disappear from history," etc., but no one can deny that there are absolutely statements, not just this week but from every week, such as "oh, this is the last chance for this song to get #1, all is lost if it doesn't make it now"...or "oh, this artist has to try so and so tactic, this is a make or break moment," or "wow, what a shame and a huge misfortune for this song to be stuck at #2 for 7 weeks,"....etc. I'm not against #1's or anything myself and of course it's nice to see songs get there, but of course weekly peaks aren't everything, and I will say that, overall, there tends to be a focus on these threads for songs that peak at #2, especially for a long time, about how they failed to get to #1 rather than how they've been able to be at the second-best position for such a long time (I know I would be very happy with that). Like, for this week, why not celebrate the fact that Billie has been able to maintain the runner-up position for such a long time and focus on what she has been able to achieve rather than what she hasn't? What kind of a world do we live in where anything less than the absolute best can be construed as a failure?... |
|
|
|
Post by Mayman on Aug 18, 2019 21:52:15 GMT -5
Yes but #1 is better than #2
|
|
wavey.
Moderator
Look...
Positive Vibes🙏🏾❤
Joined: August 2006
Posts: 43,667
Pronouns: He/Him
Staff
|
Post by wavey. on Aug 18, 2019 21:57:09 GMT -5
|
|
𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤
9x Platinum Member
Justice for Georgia Leah Moses: https://www.georgialeahmoses.com
Joined: January 2019
Posts: 9,268 
My Charts
Pronouns: she/they
|
Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Aug 18, 2019 23:41:56 GMT -5
A billion weeks at number 2 is impressive, but new peaks are fun!!!
|
|
Au$tin
Diamond Member
Pop Culture Guru
Grrrrrrrrrr. Fuckity fuck why don't you watch my film before you judge it? FURY.
Joined: August 2008
Posts: 54,624
My Charts
Pronouns: He/his/him
|
Post by Au$tin on Aug 19, 2019 1:31:39 GMT -5
It really, truly ain't that deep or sinister.
|
|
|
|
Post by king_billboard_100 on Aug 19, 2019 3:33:40 GMT -5
Who's coming for #1? Ransom, Senorita or Someone You loved?
|
|
𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤
9x Platinum Member
Justice for Georgia Leah Moses: https://www.georgialeahmoses.com
Joined: January 2019
Posts: 9,268
My Charts
Pronouns: she/they
|
Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Aug 19, 2019 4:05:41 GMT -5
Who's coming for #1? Ransom, Senorita or Someone You loved? Well, definitely senorita first (or bad guy, but I doubt it). After that, possibly truth hurts? Ransom has very high streaming numbers so i think it’s a contender. Someone you loved might end up making it, but I’m doubtful. I’m guessing it’ll go Top 5 max. |
|
|
|
Post by king_billboard_100 on Aug 19, 2019 4:23:45 GMT -5
Who's coming for #1? Ransom, Senorita or Someone You loved? Well, definitely senorita first (or bad guy, but I doubt it). After that, possibly truth hurts? Ransom has very high streaming numbers so i think it’s a contender. Someone you loved might end up making it, but I’m doubtful. I’m guessing it’ll go Top 5 max. Senorita might has a lock for it ! But bad guy is too late and its not deserve a #1 anyway at my point, same for Truth Hurts and its not so good not for #1, but ransom is addictive i can see it go there and Someone You loved is so good but not strong enough on spotify... |
|
rfucom
Diamond Member
Beerbongs fanatic
Joined: December 2008
Posts: 10,118
|
Post by rfucom on Aug 19, 2019 6:00:18 GMT -5
I hope badguy first then truth hurts / Senorita then Circles will do the rest of the year.
|
|
Crimsonio
2x Platinum Member
Star-Crossed 💫
Joined: December 2017
Posts: 2,518
Pronouns: he/him
|
Post by Crimsonio on Aug 19, 2019 7:56:43 GMT -5
Señorita will be the next #1, Truth Hurts looks like it's going to get blocked at #2.
|
|
mzumii
Charting
stream the downward spiral
Joined: January 2019
Posts: 304
|
Post by mzumii on Aug 19, 2019 9:58:56 GMT -5
I hope badguy first then truth hurts / Senorita then Circles will do the rest of the year. I feel like Goodbyes will get to #1 eventually, it just rose to #11 on the Billboard Pop Radio estimates and is strong in streaming |
|
mzumii
Charting
stream the downward spiral
Joined: January 2019
Posts: 304
|
Post by mzumii on Aug 19, 2019 11:58:39 GMT -5
I hope badguy first then truth hurts / Senorita then Circles will do the rest of the year. I feel like Goodbyes will get to #1 eventually, it just rose to #11 on the Billboard Pop Radio estimates and is strong in streaming Plus the album release will give it a big boost |
|
spicymapping
Platinum Member
ahoe s2e11 out now
Joined: December 2018
Posts: 1,116
|
Post by spicymapping on Aug 19, 2019 11:59:49 GMT -5
Billie's only lead is on am of all places (and only by one spot) so it's definitely over
Also Spotify Numbers
#1 - Ran$om 2.095
#2 - Senorita 1.054
#3 - Truth Hurts 1.042
#4 - Goodbyes 0.968
#5 - Money In The Grave 0.960
#6 - Bad Guy 0.959
#7 - Lover 0.940
#8 - No Guidance 0.936
#9 - The London 0.863
#10 - Bad Bad Bad 0.831
#11 - Panini 0.800
#12 - Boyfriend 0.786
#13 - Old Town Road 0.783 (Can't see the diplo/rm/thugger remixes so it's more accuately around #10)
#14 - Sunflower 0.761
#15 - Shotta Flow 0.754
#16 - Suge 0.728
#17 - Baby 0.654
#18 - Hot 0.647
#19 - Lalala 0.635
#20 - Beautiful People 0.623
#21 - Someone You Loved 0.622
#22 - Hot Girl Summer 0.620
#23 - Pop Out 0.571
#24 - How Do You Sleep? 0.552
#25 - Slide Away 0.540
And judging by some insane AM numbers, Thugger's on track for the 3rd biggest album bomb of the year
|
|
divasummer
Diamond Member
Joined: November 2011
Posts: 10,043
|
Post by divasummer on Aug 19, 2019 12:30:25 GMT -5
Who is Thugger???
|
|
moonlite
Platinum Member
Joined: September 2018
Posts: 1,185
|
Post by moonlite on Aug 19, 2019 12:32:45 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by thegreatdivine on Aug 19, 2019 12:47:22 GMT -5
I feel like Goodbyes will get to #1 eventually, it just rose to #11 on the Billboard Pop Radio estimates and is strong in streaming Plus the album release will give it a big boost Not if he starts pushing Circles as a single before the album drops. Fans will divert more streams to Cirlces since it's a newer song and radio will throw more support behind it since it sounds like a better crossover hit than Goodbyes. |
|
Enigma.
Diamond Member
Joined: July 2007
Posts: 14,176
|
Post by Enigma. on Aug 19, 2019 12:52:20 GMT -5
Huh? Goodbyes is literally the most (pop) radio friendly song that there is right now imo!
|
|
mzumii
Charting
stream the downward spiral
Joined: January 2019
Posts: 304
|
Post by mzumii on Aug 19, 2019 13:01:40 GMT -5
Huh? Goodbyes is literally the most (pop) radio friendly song that there is right now imo! I get what he's saying. Circles is very diverse in the sound it has and so therefore it can be a crossover hit. But I do agree with you that Goodbyes will become way bigger on radio than it is right now. We will have to see what Post does, he still hasn't said anything about Circles and its release. |
|
Enigma.
Diamond Member
Joined: July 2007
Posts: 14,176
|
Post by Enigma. on Aug 19, 2019 13:05:03 GMT -5
According to Kworb, Goodbyes is a hit on "only" 3 formats and still close to top ten on airplay so it's getting A LOT of spins in those 3 formats. If it gets a 4th format, it'll be top 5 hit on radio which is what he has got recently.
|
|
|
|
Post by thegreatdivine on Aug 19, 2019 13:13:41 GMT -5
According to Kworb, Goodbyes is a hit on "only" 3 formats and still close to top ten on airplay so it's getting A LOT of spins in those 3 formats. If it gets a 4th format, it'll be top 5 hit on radio which is what he has got recently. I'm not debating Goodbyes doing well on radio. All Post Malone songs do well on radio. Even when he makes songs that have rap-esque production, they get embraced by pop radio so he never has a problem getting massive radio airplay across several formats. I'm just saying that Cirlces sounds like an alternative record. I can easily see it getting even more support on formats that Post Malone might not usually get support from. |
|
kierz7
2x Platinum Member
Joined: June 2018
Posts: 2,642
|
Post by kierz7 on Aug 19, 2019 15:37:02 GMT -5
So...
“Bad Guy” has finally peaked at number one.
“Senorita” has an 80% chance of being number one now next week.
The week after, it should be a battle between “Senorita” and “Truth Hurts”.
After that...
Rihanna needs to release her fu*king lead single!
|
|
|
|
Post by lostinhavana on Aug 19, 2019 15:43:55 GMT -5
I wonder if a full tracking week of the vertical video and the cassettes would be enough to keep bad guy at 1 for a second week or not
|
|
lugus15
Gold Member
Joined: April 2009
Posts: 790
|
Post by lugus15 on Aug 19, 2019 16:11:42 GMT -5
It's pretty obvious that Señorita has this week on lock. It is growing in radio, while BG is decreasing. Plus it's selling more. This past week it was THIS close between them.
What's really interesting is next week. Who is going to get the VMA´s push more, Señorita of Truth Hurts?
|
|
|
|
Post by king_billboard_100 on Aug 19, 2019 16:26:38 GMT -5
Wow i didnt see that coming !!!!
I feel like you dont need to have a very good song to peak at #1... actually i understood it for the first time when Nice for what did it.
|
|
weaver
4x Platinum Member
Joined: April 2008
Posts: 4,119
|
Post by weaver on Aug 19, 2019 17:42:30 GMT -5
Maaannn...this thread is a MESS.
|
|
Au$tin
Diamond Member
Pop Culture Guru
Grrrrrrrrrr. Fuckity fuck why don't you watch my film before you judge it? FURY.
Joined: August 2008
Posts: 54,624
My Charts
Pronouns: He/his/him
|
Post by Au$tin on Aug 19, 2019 17:55:32 GMT -5
I wonder if a full tracking week of the vertical video and the cassettes would be enough to keep bad guy at 1 for a second week or not I doubt it. bad guy and Señorita are already so close to each other. bad guy has begun falling on pop and alternative radio and its gains on hot ac and rhythmic won't be enough to counteract that. Meanwhile, Señorita is gaining significantly on airplay. Next week Señorita's airplay gains to bad guy's airplay losses will be enough to make them switch on the Hot 100. And that's without factoring in sales and streaming. With those tacked on, bad guy is slipping considerably while Señorita is stable. I just don't see any possible way anything stops Señorita from hitting #1 next week. |
|
