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Post by Choco on Aug 21, 2019 13:21:57 GMT -5
One thing that been admirable about AG's recent string of hits (until BF) is that she's done it solo without having to slap on a male artist to hedge success. AG proved it can be done consistently. I was hoping others would follow. It's bums me out that an artist positioned like Lizzo ends up going basic, which she has every right to do.  |
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Post by king_billboard_100 on Aug 21, 2019 13:40:15 GMT -5
Charlie Puth and Post Malone should knock that Lizzo and Shawn, Camila boring songs from #1!
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Post by kimberly on Aug 21, 2019 16:37:57 GMT -5
Tuesday streaming numbers:
| Spotify | Apple Music | Apple (-Thugger) | | #1 | Ransom (2.155) | Hot | No Guidance | | #2 | Senorita (1.168) | Bad Bad Bad | Ransom | | #3 | Truth Hurts (1.136) | No Guidance | Money in the Grave | | #4 | Goodbyes (1.128) | What's the Move | Hot Girl Summer | | #5 | bad guy (1.109) | Just How It Is | Truth Hurts | | #6 | Money in the Grave (1.090)
| Surf | Goodbyes | | #7 | No Guidance (1.021) | Sup Mate | Baby | | #8 | Lover (1.001)
| Light It Up | bad guy | | #9 | The London (0.883) | Ransom | Suge | | #10 | Bad Bad Bad (0.864) | Lil Baby | Cash S**t |
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Post by korbel16 on Aug 21, 2019 17:18:00 GMT -5
Most likely coming on Friday and helping Truth Hurts take over Senorita next week: VMA’s are Monday so that will be a big push for senorita because we all know how people want to see them perform together ... Lizzo might get a push as well tho if her performance is as creative as her recent ones.. |
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Post by kimberly on Aug 21, 2019 17:50:30 GMT -5
Most likely coming on Friday and helping Truth Hurts take over Senorita next week: VMA’s are Monday so that will be a big push for senorita because we all know how people want to see them perform together ... Lizzo might get a push as well tho if her performance is as creative as her recent ones.. If the recent Shawn performances are any indication, we can expect the performance to be pretty average with like a kiss at the end or something. We'll see how much Camilla can improve his stage shows lol. Lizzo, on the other hand, is legendary, but if she does the same old performance she did at BET Awards then she also won't get the greatest boost. (VMAs are also viewed by like 56 people so a moment needs to be really good to impact chart race--given that this one will be close, it might end up being the deciding factor though) |
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Aug 21, 2019 18:32:20 GMT -5
One thing that been admirable about AG's recent string of hits (until BF) is that she's done it solo without having to slap on a male artist to hedge success. AG proved it can be done consistently. I was hoping others would follow. It's bums me out that an artist positioned like Lizzo ends up going basic, which she has every right to do. How is this any different than Ariana slapping 2 Chainz on the 7 Rings remix? LOL. You're right. But did that version take it to #1? I thought it was already #1 by the time that version came out. I should've been clearer about being able to reach peaks without help. |
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Post by weaver on Aug 21, 2019 18:34:09 GMT -5
There are crappy #1 hits every year. Even back in the 60s. Music didn't suddenly get bad, you just got older and aged out of the demographic that likes current music. That's definitely me, and I'm certainly one of the senior members here lol. I do still like some current music though. |
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Post by mzumii on Aug 21, 2019 18:42:02 GMT -5
Charlie Puth and Post Malone should knock that Lizzo and Shawn, Camila boring songs from #1! I've been hoping Charlie would get some hits soon, love his music. As for Post, Goodbyes is gaining on radio and is stable on streaming with an album coming in early September. |
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Aug 21, 2019 18:44:37 GMT -5
Charlie Puth and Post Malone should knock that Lizzo and Shawn, Camila boring songs from #1! I've been hoping Charlie would get some hits soon, love his music. As for Post, Goodbyes is gaining on radio and is stable on streaming with an album coming in early September. Yeah, I’m preparing for a Post reign in the next month. |
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Post by rfucom on Aug 21, 2019 18:50:08 GMT -5
I hope there's a room for Goodbyes to be no.1 when the album comes because of the airplay factor then followed by Circles.
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Post by mzumii on Aug 21, 2019 18:59:34 GMT -5
My dream scenario would be for Goodbyes to go #1 when the album releases and then stay there for a few weeks until Circles overtakes it on radio. Hopefully Circles gets a quality MV too.
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Aug 21, 2019 21:20:18 GMT -5
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Post by kingvavis on Aug 21, 2019 21:33:07 GMT -5
^How does Ransom lose in chart position if it's doing high on demand streams, solid YouTube, and growing radio with a remix?
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 21, 2019 21:48:27 GMT -5
^How does Ransom lose in chart position if it's doing high on demand streams, solid YouTube, and growing radio with a remix? Positions are only a reflection of how songs are performing relative to each other. A song can gain points but lose positions if other songs below it gain more and rise above it. For example if a song at #8 has 100 points and #9 has 98 points, but next week the song that was at #8 has 110 points and the song that was at #9 has 111 points, it will be #8 and push the other song down to #9 despite both gaining in points. I have no idea how Ransom and Goodbyes are performing relative to each other, but based on Simm's predictions, looks like Goodbyes is just gaining more than Ransom when all components are factored in. I don't know if that's true, but that's what Simm's predictions are insinuating. Edit: I looked into it. Radio Goodbyes #11, ~70 million AI, gaining roughly 1 million per day Ransom #93, ~19 million AI, gaining roughly 0.9 million per day iTunes Goodbyes #19, relatively stable Ransom #88, fluctuating up and down Spotify Goodbyes #4, up 7k streams for the week Ransom #1, down 150k streams for the week Apple Goodbyes #14 Ransom #6 & #34 YouTube (weekly) Ransom #4, down 364k Goodbyes #23, down 278k Just looks like the two are close together in overall points and Goodbyes is just going to be slightly ahead this upcoming week. |
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Post by kingvavis on Aug 21, 2019 22:12:51 GMT -5
^How does Ransom lose in chart position if it's doing high on demand streams, solid YouTube, and growing radio with a remix? Positions are only a reflection of how songs are performing relative to each other. A song can gain points but lose positions if other songs below it gain more and rise above it. For example if a song at #8 has 100 points and #9 has 98 points, but next week the song that was at #8 has 110 points and the song that was at #9 has 111 points, it will be #8 and push the other song down to #9 despite both gaining in points. I have no idea how Ransom and Goodbyes are performing relative to each other, but based on Simm's predictions, looks like Goodbyes is just gaining more than Ransom when all components are factored in. I don't know if that's true, but that's what Simm's predictions are insinuating. Edit: I looked into it. Radio Goodbyes #11, ~70 million AI, gaining roughly 1 million per day Ransom #93, ~19 million AI, gaining roughly 0.9 million per day iTunes Goodbyes #19, relatively stable Ransom #88, fluctuating up and down Spotify Goodbyes #4, up 7k streams for the week Ransom #1, down 150k streams for the week Apple Goodbyes #14 Ransom #6 & #34 YouTube (weekly) Ransom #4, down 364k Goodbyes #23, down 278k Just looks like the two are close together in overall points and Goodbyes is just going to be slightly ahead this upcoming week. How is Ransom down on Spotify if it's been doing 2million+ daily streams and nearly if not doubling the streams of songs like Goodbyes and Senorita? |
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 21, 2019 22:21:30 GMT -5
Positions are only a reflection of how songs are performing relative to each other. A song can gain points but lose positions if other songs below it gain more and rise above it. For example if a song at #8 has 100 points and #9 has 98 points, but next week the song that was at #8 has 110 points and the song that was at #9 has 111 points, it will be #8 and push the other song down to #9 despite both gaining in points. I have no idea how Ransom and Goodbyes are performing relative to each other, but based on Simm's predictions, looks like Goodbyes is just gaining more than Ransom when all components are factored in. I don't know if that's true, but that's what Simm's predictions are insinuating. Edit: I looked into it. Radio Goodbyes #11, ~70 million AI, gaining roughly 1 million per day Ransom #93, ~19 million AI, gaining roughly 0.9 million per day iTunes Goodbyes #19, relatively stable Ransom #88, fluctuating up and down Spotify Goodbyes #4, up 7k streams for the week Ransom #1, down 150k streams for the week Apple Goodbyes #14 Ransom #6 & #34 YouTube (weekly) Ransom #4, down 364k Goodbyes #23, down 278k Just looks like the two are close together in overall points and Goodbyes is just going to be slightly ahead this upcoming week. How is Ransom down on Spotify if it's been doing 2million+ daily streams and nearly if not doubling the streams of songs like Goodbyes and Senorita? You have incorrect information. Ransom daily Spotify numbers  Goodbyes daily Spotify numbers  Also, Ransom's Spotify numbers relative to Señorita's are a moot point in this discussion. Señorita has a massive lead over it on airplay and sales. |
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Post by kingvavis on Aug 21, 2019 22:29:39 GMT -5
How is Ransom down on Spotify if it's been doing 2million+ daily streams and nearly if not doubling the streams of songs like Goodbyes and Senorita? You have incorrect information. Ransom daily Spotify numbers Goodbyes daily Spotify numbers Also, Ransom's Spotify numbers relative to Señorita's are a moot point in this discussion. Señorita has a massive lead over it on airplay and sales. But those numbers don't include the remix. |
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Post by Au$tin on Aug 21, 2019 22:35:47 GMT -5
You have incorrect information. Ransom daily Spotify numbers Goodbyes daily Spotify numbers Also, Ransom's Spotify numbers relative to Señorita's are a moot point in this discussion. Señorita has a massive lead over it on airplay and sales. But those numbers don't include the remix. Ah, I didn't realize it had a remix. I don't know what to tell ya, dude. Simm could just be wrong. They are, after all, predictions from one man unaffiliated with Billboard and any of the affiliates that report to Billboard. I'm also realizing right now the 7Day+ column on Kworb for Spotify is not what I thought it was. |
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Post by kingvavis on Aug 21, 2019 22:40:24 GMT -5
But those numbers don't include the remix. Ah, I didn't realize it had a remix. I don't know what to tell ya, dude. Simm could just be wrong. They are, after all, predictions from one man unaffiliated with Billboard and any of the affiliates that report to Billboard. I'm also realizing right now the 7Day+ column on Kworb for Spotify is not what I thought it was. It's all understandable, I appreciate that you took time to address my questions. Billboard can be one confusing thing to figure out sometimes. |
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Post by moonlite on Aug 22, 2019 0:24:44 GMT -5
Simm mostly likely just didn’t include the remix. Impossible for it to decrease in either points or position with how well the remix is doing. I think it’ll jump to the top 5 at the least
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Post by lurker2 on Aug 22, 2019 0:40:37 GMT -5
Since we’re on the topic of Lil Tecca, one thing I was wondering is what’s happening to Love Me? AFAIK it isn’t on any genre chart, bubbling under, or the Hot 100 even though it’s on Spotify’s top 50 for a while now. Is it that weak in all other formats, or is it recurrent and just too low, or what?
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Post by moonlite on Aug 22, 2019 0:51:24 GMT -5
Since we’re on the topic of Lil Tecca, one thing I was wondering is what’s happening to Love Me? AFAIK it isn’t on any genre chart, bubbling under, or the Hot 100 even though it’s on Spotify’s top 50 for a while now. Is it that weak in all other formats, or is it recurrent and just too low, or what? Yea Spotify is the only platform its doing well. Its not top 300 on Apple or top 100 on YT |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 2:04:26 GMT -5
DaBaby bout to get his first number one I'm so proud
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Post by renaboss on Aug 22, 2019 4:02:11 GMT -5
Random, but Kygo and Whitney's "Higher Love" is top 10 in the UK, so that's nice.
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Post by Gary on Aug 22, 2019 9:04:02 GMT -5
Current #1 on Dance Club Songs
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Post by spicymapping on Aug 22, 2019 9:12:50 GMT -5
On the note of simon's predictions this week, not to be harsh on the man who's the most accurate 99% of the time, but I think it's pretty obvious that he adjusted bad guy to be higher off of last week when the margin between bad guy and senorita was basically exactly what he expected if not smaller, so it would've been more accurate to assume he's been overshooting on otr rather than the reverse. I'd be shocked if bad guy actually beats truth hurts this week.
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Post by kimberly on Aug 22, 2019 10:39:07 GMT -5
Wednesday streaming numbers:
| Spotify | Apple Music | Apple (-Thugger) | | #1 | Ransom (2.131) | Hot | No Guidance | | #2 | Senorita (1.158) | Bad Bad Bad | Ransom | | #3 | Truth Hurts (1.155) | No Guidance | Money in the Grave | | #4 | Goodbyes (1.120) | What's the Move | Truth Hurts
| | #5 | bad guy (1.103) | Just How It Is | Hot Girl Summer | | #6 | Money in the Grave (1.079)
| Surf | Goodbyes | | #7 | No Guidance (1.010) | Ransom | Baby | | #8 | Lover (0.892)
| Sup Mate | bad guy | | #9 | The London (0.886) | Money in the Grave | Suge | | #10 | Boyfriend (0.876) | Light It Up | Cash S**t |
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Post by spicymapping on Aug 22, 2019 10:44:24 GMT -5
I seriously doubt either I Warned Myself or Teeth will make it off of 2 days but keep an eye on them for next week.
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Post by Choco on Aug 22, 2019 10:44:53 GMT -5
With the Lover video and the album release coming, it might be the first track she's done in a while that actually goes up in week two.
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Post by king_billboard_100 on Aug 22, 2019 14:47:33 GMT -5
With the Lover video and the album release coming, it might be the first track she's done in a while that actually goes up in week two. yes what about the new swift album is it going to have a bomb? |
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