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Post by wjr15 on Jun 9, 2023 13:53:03 GMT -5
Enchanted is just too long. Otherwise, I would say that. But like All Too Well, it may not even need much radio play to go #1. I think Enchanted would be a great focus single for Speak Now if none of the vault tracks take off. It would be nice to get a video for that song. Enchanted is one of my favorites off of Speak Now.
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Post by Daenerys on Jun 9, 2023 14:33:45 GMT -5
Better Than Revenge, Dear John, Long Live, and Enchanted are all songs I am interested in hearing on the Taylor version, of Speak Now.
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Post by aldo01 on Jun 9, 2023 14:38:05 GMT -5
Enchanted is almost 6 minutes long though, it would be hard to get radio to play it and a radio edit would butcher the song. I think CS is the right choice, it would be stupid to ignore the massive momentum behind it.
They might send out one of the vault tracks (maybe one of the features), but Taylor is so huge right now that I bet radio wouldn't mind having two singles of her in high rotation. My guess is they will go with CS + SNTV Vault Track.
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Post by avamaxstan on Jun 9, 2023 14:39:02 GMT -5
This isn't getting a push. Speak Now TV is coming in 4 weeks.. the focus will be on that. Girl, you really think Taylor Nation is just going to let a rising smash song just wither and die on the vine? She's probably the most chart motivated and strategic artist in the entire business (not a criticism, I love that she cares about charts). Regardless, SNTV is going to open with huge numbers and one of the tracks might re-peak at #1, but unlikely to generate any big radio hits, just like Red TV.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 15:14:49 GMT -5
Did they send this for FYC last summer? Or am I thinking of another song? Or another artist. Because I feel like she sent out a tester before, but it didn’t end up getting sent for adds.
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Post by Juan Carlos on Jun 9, 2023 16:01:40 GMT -5
Did they send this for FYC last summer? Or am I thinking of another song? Or another artist. Because I feel like she sent out a tester before, but it didn’t end up getting sent for adds. It was three years ago (exactly in June of 2020), not last summer.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 16:02:46 GMT -5
Did they send this for FYC last summer? Or am I thinking of another song? Or another artist. Because I feel like she sent out a tester before, but it didn’t end up getting sent for adds. It was three years ago (exactly in June of 2020), not last summer. Right, 2020 isn’t last summer. My memory isn’t the greatest, I thought I remembered it being tried before, at some point. Thank you kindly.
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Post by someguy on Jun 9, 2023 22:40:09 GMT -5
It was three years ago (exactly in June of 2020), not last summer. Right, 2020 isn’t last summer. My memory isn’t the greatest, I thought I remembered it being tried before, at some point. Thank you kindly. If I remember rightly, it was about to get released, and then the surprise release of folklore happened instead.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 10, 2023 0:38:44 GMT -5
I looked back through this thread, it looks like this was never 'about to get' released (at least not in the sense that people here were anticipating); it only got FYC treatment and no full push (and yes, it was right before 'Folklore' dropped, whether that had anything to do with it or not).
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Jun 10, 2023 3:20:25 GMT -5
I looked back through this thread, it looks like this was never 'about to get' released (at least not in the sense that people here were anticipating); it only got FYC treatment and no full push (and yes, it was right before 'Folklore' dropped, whether that had anything to do with it or not). I also vaguely remember people saying it was pulled because thematically singing about a “Cruel Summer” with verses like “fever dream high in the quiet of the night you know that I caught it” and “killing me slow, out the window” during a global pandemic with hundreds of thousands of people dying over the Summer would have been extremely tone deaf and inappropriate. Would have been akin to “Die Young” being pulled when Sandy Hook happened.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jun 10, 2023 6:07:05 GMT -5
Back in the top 50!
57 49 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 517 201 316 3.053
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Post by musiclife on Jun 10, 2023 15:15:20 GMT -5
Love to see it
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Post by kimberly on Jun 10, 2023 15:32:49 GMT -5
I looked back through this thread, it looks like this was never 'about to get' released (at least not in the sense that people here were anticipating); it only got FYC treatment and no full push (and yes, it was right before 'Folklore' dropped, whether that had anything to do with it or not). I also vaguely remember people saying it was pulled because thematically singing about a “Cruel Summer” with verses like “fever dream high in the quiet of the night you know that I caught it” and “killing me slow, out the window” during a global pandemic with hundreds of thousands of people dying over the Summer would have been extremely tone deaf and inappropriate. Would have been akin to “Die Young” being pulled when Sandy Hook happened. I believe that was more so and explanation that people came up with for why the song would be unlikely to be pushed as a single right then. it wasn't "pulled" per se.
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Post by avamaxstan on Jun 10, 2023 16:01:51 GMT -5
I still don’t get it with this song. Like… it’s fine? I wouldn’t change the station, but I wouldn’t turn up the volume either. Both “ME!” and “You Need To Calm Down” have stronger hooks and production so it’s no wonder they were chosen over this. I’d rather we get “False God” as a single over this… or “Afterglow”… or “Death By A Thousand Cuts” even. That’s the Taylor Swift people in 2019 want to listen to. Not her screaming like a 15 year old on the bridge of a diluted 1989 reject.Much like fetch, this is never going to happen. It will sit pretty with "Getaway Car", "All Too Well" and "I Know Places" in the non-single gems category. Yeah, this is alright, but definitely not a smash waiting to happen. Maybe not in 2019, but it clearly is what the public wants in 2023. Time, the ultimate truth teller
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Post by Au$tin on Jun 10, 2023 19:30:14 GMT -5
Okay, but False God and Afterglow are indeed miles better than this, for what it's worth.
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Post by ethansdelicate on Jun 10, 2023 21:44:00 GMT -5
US Song Activity (HDD), week ending 6/1
#30(+2) Cruel Summer 9,367,000 audio streams (+10%) 1,400 sales (+27%) 2023 run on HDD Song Activity: 42(RE)-40-35-32-30
US Streaming Songs (Billboard) #30 (+1) Cruel Summer *6 weeks|peak #14*
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Post by ethansdelicate on Jun 10, 2023 21:47:11 GMT -5
Predicted #47 (-2) on the Hot 100, 5 debuts ahead and up 12% in points (Lippredicts)
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Jun 11, 2023 1:29:31 GMT -5
I also vaguely remember people saying it was pulled because thematically singing about a “Cruel Summer” with verses like “fever dream high in the quiet of the night you know that I caught it” and “killing me slow, out the window” during a global pandemic with hundreds of thousands of people dying over the Summer would have been extremely tone deaf and inappropriate. Would have been akin to “Die Young” being pulled when Sandy Hook happened. I believe that was more so and explanation that people came up with for why the song would be unlikely to be pushed as a single right then. it wasn't "pulled" per se. Pulled it from being released as a single, not pulled it from radio stations. Pulled as in “cancelled” or “withdrew”
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jun 11, 2023 6:03:58 GMT -5
51 46 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 615 231 384 3.495
+98 Spins +68 Bullet +0.442 Audience
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Post by NeRD on Jun 11, 2023 7:29:14 GMT -5
Oh looks like it's really coming now.
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Post by Dylan :) on Jun 11, 2023 10:04:16 GMT -5
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Post by kimberly on Jun 11, 2023 10:04:20 GMT -5
I believe that was more so and explanation that people came up with for why the song would be unlikely to be pushed as a single right then. it wasn't "pulled" per se. Pulled it from being released as a single, not pulled it from radio stations. Pulled as in “cancelled” or “withdrew” right, there’s no real evidence of that happening.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jun 11, 2023 20:10:53 GMT -5
SUNDAY PUBLISHED UPDATE (6/11)
51 43 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 615 231 384 3.495
Chart run: 43
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Post by rainie on Jun 11, 2023 21:08:19 GMT -5
do we have to release speak now taylor's edition in a month anyways ?? clearly this is what the public wants right now and we're still just over 6 months from midnights, push that sucker in the fall ! there's literally no rush and i do think they run a risk of the weeknd-ing taylor by having karma AND this AND whatever they push from speak now tv at the same time (esp with anti hero still lingering in the top 15 of the hot 100 + getting lots of recurrent play)
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Post by Au$tin on Jun 11, 2023 21:41:17 GMT -5
I believe that was more so and explanation that people came up with for why the song would be unlikely to be pushed as a single right then. it wasn't "pulled" per se. Pulled it from being released as a single, not pulled it from radio stations. Pulled as in “cancelled” or “withdrew” It was never announced as a single (or upcoming single) to begin with, though. There was nothing to withdraw from.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Jun 12, 2023 0:51:43 GMT -5
do we have to release speak now taylor's edition in a month anyways ?? clearly this is what the public wants right now and we're still just over 6 months from midnights, push that sucker in the fall ! there's literally no rush and i do think they run a risk of the weeknd-ing taylor by having karma AND this AND whatever they push from speak now tv at the same time (esp with anti hero still lingering in the top 15 of the hot 100 + getting lots of recurrent play) I don't think radio is part of the plan for SN anyway. I'm guessing SN has two primary objectives: 1) Get Enchanted (TV) to #1 on Hot 100 and 2) replace the original SN's streaming/sales. Maybe there's a minor radio hit like MIAB or ATGYLB on SN, but I seriously doubt there's a major Vault radio hit from that era. Cruel Summer will really pick up steam on radio as we head into Summer officially in 2 weeks, but will still be low enough not to impact Karma's final radio push. Karma basically replaced LH, which is down to 1800 pop spins. I expect that CS will do the same after Karma is gone. A-H is probably going to be a POP staple - e.g, Stay, AIW, HW for the next year. I'm really glad CS is finally getting a proper push!
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jun 12, 2023 6:04:07 GMT -5
Top 40 on pop!
50 40 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 707 254 453 3.833
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Post by justlurkingaround on Jun 12, 2023 6:24:33 GMT -5
Taylor Swift, release the kraken.
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Post by Dylan :) on Jun 12, 2023 7:19:29 GMT -5
#15 (=) on US Spotify
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Post by austin on Jun 12, 2023 9:47:32 GMT -5
Oh ok so it’s actually happening
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