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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2023 16:12:30 GMT -5
Consumption wise, Midnight Rain behaved like a promoted single. So in that sense it might not be necessary to push a fourth single unless the plan is for a radio single
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Post by zdm1998 on Jul 2, 2023 16:27:20 GMT -5
I really don't see the need to push a fourth single from Midnights honestly. Get Karma to #1 next week on the radio, drop it, and go full force with Cruel Summer. If they did do another single it shouldn't be until late fall at the earliest. Trying to push "Cruel Summer" full force so it could be her next Blank Space/Shake it Off size hit, is worth more than trying to release a fourth single that would only be a moderate sized hit, cause while I think there are songs left on the album that could work, I don't hear anything undeniable.
Also don't want her to get overexposed, because after 1989, it felt like she got overexposed around Reputation and Lover, causing a diminishing returns (at least on the singles front.)
Also, does anyone think we will get a music video? Curious if we will at least get a concert video of this (even though I want an actual one.)
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Post by wavey. on Jul 3, 2023 0:14:38 GMT -5
I like this now.
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Jul 3, 2023 0:35:43 GMT -5
I like this now. It was never one of my faves off of Lover but itโs quickly becoming one of them!
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jul 3, 2023 4:36:13 GMT -5
Officially top 20 on pop radio and top 50 on AC!
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POP: 23 18 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 5716 3350 2366 20.401
Chart run: 43-31-23-18
HOT AC: 30 23 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 1001 452 549 5.490
Chart run: 47-30-23
AC: 297 48 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 6 1 5 0.050
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jul 3, 2023 4:58:49 GMT -5
Pushed out of the top 50 on AC.
POP: 21 15 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 6080 3673 2407 21.603
+367 Spins +44 Bullet +1.202 Audience
HOT AC: 29 22 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 1088 527 561 5.689
+87 Spins +12 Bullet +0.199 Audience
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Post by musiclife on Jul 3, 2023 10:01:42 GMT -5
Coming for the top 10.
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Post by Dylan :) on Jul 3, 2023 15:21:13 GMT -5
Predicted to go to #8 on the Hot 100 next week. Holds at #5 on US Spotify
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Post by avamaxstan on Jul 3, 2023 15:23:26 GMT -5
If you had told me six months ago that this would be top 10 and headed for #1...
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Post by kmbgs on Jul 3, 2023 16:16:03 GMT -5
Really rooting for this to go #1 because it will show that you can still release a quality song without a TikTok campaign or remix and grow a hit from the ground up.
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Post by musiclife on Jul 3, 2023 23:57:34 GMT -5
I really hope it eventually goes #1. That would be incredible.
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Post by livelikedying111 on Jul 4, 2023 2:29:00 GMT -5
Are streaming numbers OK? She's only #5 and I'm so anxious for this to reach the Hot 100 #1, it'd be the ultimate justice for this song. Aside for increasing streams due to increasing radio exposure, what can we expect to happen to make this reach that goal?
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jul 4, 2023 5:28:21 GMT -5
Second most added on HAC this week with 11 adds. This does have a shot at top 10 by the end of the week, the main competition would be FIFTY FIFTY's "Cupid" (I'm personally hoping "Cupid" gets there and gets a week in the top 10 and then "Cruel Summer" takes over).
POP: 21 15 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 6472 3977 2495 22.739
+392 Spins +88 Bullet +1.136 Audience
HOT AC: 28 22 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 1163 596 567 5.752
+75 Spins +6 Bullet +0.063 Audience
Top 10 Watch: 2407 spins from #10, "Chemical" (+928) 1504 spins from #11, "Favorite Song" (+387) 1419 spins from #12, "Cupid" (+243) 725 spins from #13, "Waffle House" (+461) 511 spins from #14, "Snooze" (+248)
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Post by MissAmericana on Jul 4, 2023 6:00:25 GMT -5
#2 (+1) on Global Spotify!
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Post by Dylan :) on Jul 4, 2023 6:07:37 GMT -5
#4 (+1) on US Spotify
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Post by imbuemyblue on Jul 4, 2023 8:37:33 GMT -5
Are streaming numbers OK? She's only #5 and I'm so anxious for this to reach the Hot 100 #1, it'd be the ultimate justice for this song. Aside for increasing streams due to increasing radio exposure, what can we expect to happen to make this reach that goal? The streaming numbers look pretty fantastic to me! I don't know how likely it is that it will reach number one, but it also could not be necessary. Where I think it can and will absolutely go number one is radio ([perhaps this is hubris and a little early to say this). It sounds SO good on the radio and programmers are very down to play Taylor now. Let's say it's a number one radio hit, has top five streaming and top ten sales; that could all come together to make a number one hit on its own. But you also have factors like a rumored music video, discounting downloads to 69 cents, or even a limited edition vinyl. There are ways to get it there.
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Post by avamaxstan on Jul 4, 2023 12:18:09 GMT -5
Are streaming numbers OK? She's only #5 and I'm so anxious for this to reach the Hot 100 #1, it'd be the ultimate justice for this song. Aside for increasing streams due to increasing radio exposure, what can we expect to happen to make this reach that goal? It would need to approximately double its streams to topple Olivia/Morgan/Selena and hit #1. I'm not much sure how much higher it can go without a big promotional swing (video, remix etc).
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Post by Choco on Jul 4, 2023 12:19:14 GMT -5
I think it might be hitting it's streaming ceiling unless they promote. It's doing great! But if it stabilizes at this level most new releases should beat it.
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Post by Juan Carlos on Jul 4, 2023 19:14:28 GMT -5
Second most added with 26 adds this week.
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Post by Dylan :) on Jul 4, 2023 19:31:40 GMT -5
#2 Me! #2 You Need To Calm Down #10 Lover #13 Cruel Summer #23 The Man
An organic hit!
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Jul 5, 2023 0:49:24 GMT -5
I think it might be hitting it's streaming ceiling unless they promote. It's doing great! But if it stabilizes at this level most new releases should beat it. Remixes and Acoustic Version next please!
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Post by MissAmericana on Jul 5, 2023 2:17:58 GMT -5
As much as I would love a video, acoustic versions or piano versions, nothing would help this song more than a Live From The Eras Tour version. Iโd bet that the performance video alone would outview all her recent music videos.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 5, 2023 5:59:12 GMT -5
POP: 20 15 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 6872 4228 2644 23.871
+400 Spins +149 Bullet +1.132 Audience
HOT AC: 27 22 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 1217 691 526 5.737
+54 Spins -41 Bullet -0.015 Audience
SPINS: 1543 Spins from #10, Post Malone (+864) 1141 Spins from #11, Fifty Fifty (+278) 1055 Spins from #12, Toosii (+449) 310 Spins from #13, JoBros (+415) 106 Spins from #14, SZA (+405)
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Post by Dylan :) on Jul 5, 2023 6:34:03 GMT -5
Does top 10 look possible this week?
#5 (-1) on US Spotify, #2 (=) on Global Spotify
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Post by zdm1998 on Jul 5, 2023 6:39:33 GMT -5
Realistically, do we think this has a shot at going #1 on the Hot 100?
I know with a big push she could get there, but how high if they don't do a big push?
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Post by imbuemyblue on Jul 5, 2023 6:49:42 GMT -5
Does top 10 look possible this week? #5 (-1) on US Spotify, #2 (=) on Global Spotify Those Twitter prediction accounts have it entering this week :)
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Post by sheerio on Jul 5, 2023 6:52:08 GMT -5
Does top 10 look possible this week? #5 (-1) on US Spotify, #2 (=) on Global Spotify YES! Its is predicted to be her highest charting song on next week's H100. Around 8 or 9.
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Post by Maximillian on Jul 5, 2023 6:58:58 GMT -5
While I donโt think Taylor needs to drop another Midnights single, I suspect she will โฆ. Because literally why not?
Cruel Summer became such a surprise blow up, it would have been a disservice not to push it at this point. Of course, this messed up the Midnights singles & TV rollout (even if just a little tiny bit).
I doubt we see much radio push from the TV songs, and I *highly doubt* she will drop another album or TV this year. That means she will be going into the Fall / Winter without any active project to push around the holidays. It would make total sense to service another single, repackage Midnights again, and try for a last minute push on holiday season sales. This is why itโs smart to release another Midnights single, even if the single does *virtually nothing* on radio.
Since sheโs likely going to move about 7-10m total albums this year across her discography, sheโs not hurting, but I doubt her label will just sit back and be like โnaw letโs not do anything for the holidaysโ, when they are sitting on the biggest act, pop album and tour of 2023.
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Post by Dylan :) on Jul 5, 2023 7:18:47 GMT -5
Apologies to both of you, I meant on Pop Radio :) I should have been specific
As for Autumn/Winter, as others have suggested, she might do a Chrismtmas album
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Post by Maximillian on Jul 5, 2023 7:33:54 GMT -5
Apologies to both of you, I meant on Pop Radio :) I should have been specific As for Autumn/Winter, as others have suggested, she might do a Chrismtmas album Hmm, I personally would have zero interest in a Christmas album from Taylor. However, I am sure many would love it.
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