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Post by sheerio on Jul 31, 2023 4:57:11 GMT -5
Crazy that she has like 4 or 5 songs charting on Pop, HAC and ALT all from different albums. That really speaks a lot about how timeless and wide her discography is.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jul 31, 2023 7:22:20 GMT -5
POP: 4 1 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 15630 14259 1371 48.157
+135 Spins -179 Bullet +0.168 Audience
HOT AC: 9 8 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 3528 2934 594 13.433
+81 Spins +5 Bullet +0.265 Audience
AC: 21 16 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 159 77 82 1.260
+16 Spins +6 Bullet +0.158 Audience
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Post by theflying on Jul 31, 2023 8:41:48 GMT -5
How often has a solo artist occupied the top 2 slots on Pop radio?
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Post by avamaxstan on Jul 31, 2023 8:53:30 GMT -5
Not often. The last was Olivia two years ago.
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Post by born on Jul 31, 2023 8:59:51 GMT -5
I’m so used to seeing her chart toppers bleed spins the moment they reach #1 so I’m loving this! This has been my favorite “fans wish it was a single” album cut for so long so its success is a great summer treat!
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Post by avamaxstan on Jul 31, 2023 10:30:53 GMT -5
Now that taylor nation has done its job with this, can we please make the Cornelia Street acoustic version a fall/winter hit?
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Post by 85la on Jul 31, 2023 13:01:52 GMT -5
Lol 24 weeks at #2 for Anti-Hero on AC… is that common?
AC is of course one of the most glacially-paced of all charts, so it's very common for songs to spend many weeks (at any position), though 24 weeks at #2 does seem especially long. I wonder if it's a record?
as a casual fan, "Lover" has always been my favorite. It was released at the wrong time cuz it had a Xmas vibe. Who knows, maybe it can come back this Xmas. Anything can happen at this point, lol.
It was first released and promoted in August (around the album's release) so you have somewhat of a point, though they also seemed to do some major re-promotion with the Shawn Mendes version in mid-November to capitalize on the Christmas vibe, and it seemed to extend its chart life a little, but not a whole lot. I think momentum for the album was largely killed up to that point, and tbh (though I like the song), to me it just doesn't scream major hit material, so I'm not sure it would've performed spectacularly whenever it was released.
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Post by Taylor. on Jul 31, 2023 13:19:42 GMT -5
Lover underperformed as a single at the time (I agree the timing was off) but it's had great longevity and has certainly aged into a wedding staple already. The solo version is going to cross 1 billion streams relatively soon and still ranks in her top 10 on Spotify. If you add the Mendes and First Dance remix it's at 1.2 billion right now.
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Post by Choco on Jul 31, 2023 13:28:15 GMT -5
I connect to Taylor in a way I can't with Ed Sheeran so to me her song is way more special. The comment wasn't meant to ignite some sort of feud. It's okay to like the inferior song.
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Post by AP on Jul 31, 2023 13:34:06 GMT -5
Lover underperformed as a single at the time (I agree the timing was off) but it's had great longevity and has certainly aged into a wedding staple already. The solo version is going to cross 1 billion streams relatively soon and still ranks in her top 10 on Spotify. If you add the Mendes and First Dance remix it's at 1.2 billion right now. Which makes it the highest streaming single of the Lover era by far (until Cruel Summer inevitably passes it).
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jul 31, 2023 14:11:45 GMT -5
Lover underperformed as a single at the time (I agree the timing was off) but it's had great longevity and has certainly aged into a wedding staple already. The solo version is going to cross 1 billion streams relatively soon and still ranks in her top 10 on Spotify. If you add the Mendes and First Dance remix it's at 1.2 billion right now. It's bizarre because even at the time, I still thought Lover was the biggest hit off the album. It had a lower peak but I remember it sticking around for a while on pop radio, maybe a little longer than ME! and YNTCD.
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Post by avamaxstan on Jul 31, 2023 15:51:25 GMT -5
I think I can safely say that Lover is now is the biggest case of delayed justice for an album in recent memory. Four years later and taking up residence in the Billboard top 10, consistently outstreaming 1989, the song of the summer and a possible Hot 100 #1, a future classic with the title track. Lover said "no I will NOT be her decline era!!!"
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Post by Choco on Jul 31, 2023 17:19:48 GMT -5
Lover underperformed as a single at the time (I agree the timing was off) but it's had great longevity and has certainly aged into a wedding staple already. The solo version is going to cross 1 billion streams relatively soon and still ranks in her top 10 on Spotify. If you add the Mendes and First Dance remix it's at 1.2 billion right now. It's bizarre because even at the time, I still thought Lover was the biggest hit off the album. It had a lower peak but I remember it sticking around for a while on pop radio, maybe a little longer than ME! and YNTCD. It was the longest running single on the Hot 100 - although it needed a remix and it still couldn't match the runs of her huge hits. The legs it has had are astounding.
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Post by Dylan :) on Jul 31, 2023 17:29:09 GMT -5
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Post by avamaxstan on Jul 31, 2023 18:11:29 GMT -5
She has two weeks to strike in between the Travis Scott album bomb and the Drake album bomb. Let's gooooo
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Post by Au$tin on Jul 31, 2023 19:24:01 GMT -5
Lover underperformed as a single at the time (I agree the timing was off) but it's had great longevity and has certainly aged into a wedding staple already. The solo version is going to cross 1 billion streams relatively soon and still ranks in her top 10 on Spotify. If you add the Mendes and First Dance remix it's at 1.2 billion right now. In fact, I had it on our wedding playlist! The most recent song at that time. (TOL was also on it lol.) It's a wonderful wedding song.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2023 20:08:18 GMT -5
I’ve always felt that Lover’s weakness was its chorus. I think it held the song back from truly smashing. But the verses were great.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Aug 1, 2023 5:55:44 GMT -5
Most added on AC this week with 5 adds.
POP: 3 1 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 15830 14560 1270 48.635
+200 Spins -101 Bullet +0.478 Audience
HOT AC: 9 8 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 3627 3022 605 13.874
+99 Spins +11 Bullet +0.441 Audience
AC: 21 16 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 175 84 91 1.527
+16 Spins +9 Bullet +0.267 Audience
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Aug 1, 2023 6:01:13 GMT -5
Radio can spam this for as long as they want as far as I’m concerned. Make it the next Flowers. It would be so fitting for this to become her longest running pop #1. I do want the Hot 100 #1 too because I’m ready to start calling this her signature song and I need a little more backup for that.
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Post by musiclife on Aug 1, 2023 8:14:23 GMT -5
If they have anything planned for this Friday is the day to go for it. To get to the top all she needs is 275 and she's around 190 now. She can effortlessly do it.
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Post by Mayman on Aug 1, 2023 8:17:05 GMT -5
Everyday I open this thread and it's someone saying she needs to hurry up and push to #1. I'm not sure why it's such a concern that needs to happen asap when this is looking like it's going to stick around for quite some time on both radio and streaming.
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Post by musiclife on Aug 1, 2023 8:20:14 GMT -5
Everyday I open this thread and it's someone saying she needs to hurry up and push to #1. I'm not sure why it's such a concern that needs to happen asap when this is looking like it's going to stick around for quite awhile on both radio and streaming. Because, as you know, this song is a long kept secret by the Swifties, and we wanna see it go the mile. Especially with this weekend the last US dates are going on. I hope she drops a video at midnight for the opening show at Sofi, and does some extra special for this during the shows.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 1, 2023 8:30:17 GMT -5
So if it were to happen instead in late August or early September, that just wouldn't be satisfactory.
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Post by imbuemyblue on Aug 1, 2023 8:30:49 GMT -5
Realistically, how many points can a music video get her? 10-15? There would still be quite a climb after that to #1.
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Post by Choco on Aug 1, 2023 8:40:36 GMT -5
Realistically, how many points can a music video get her? 10-15? There would still be quite a climb after that to #1. Presumably would push streaming a bit higher due to hype. But I don't think enough for it to go #1 without the usual sales gimmicks (remix/video/CD/vinyl).
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Post by musiclife on Aug 1, 2023 9:07:14 GMT -5
So if it were to happen instead in late August or early September, that just wouldn't be satisfactory. That would be fine. I just think if she's in striking distance it's worth it. Realistically, how many points can a music video get her? 10-15? There would still be quite a climb after that to #1. Vinyls, digital discounts, and I'm sure a video would increase streaming. She could get it.
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Post by †ealsünset on Aug 1, 2023 9:48:43 GMT -5
The show should be over by Midnight on Thursday. I thought she was debuting videos on Friday nights?
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Post by chartwatcher2 on Aug 1, 2023 10:15:22 GMT -5
I definitely think this Thursday would be a great time to promote Cruel Summer, likely through some sort of visual. While I think a tour video could actually assist the song more than a typical one (based off the hype for the Eras Tour and the fact that any HQ videos of Taylor performing seem to be going viral on TikTok), it might be a little awkward to promote a tour video at the tour itself. Debuting something at the first show on 08/03 is perfect based on the fact that it could be later released at midnight on Friday, maximizing points for the next chart week. I do think, based on So-Fi stadiums recent posts, we will be getting a 1989 announcement on 08/09. Taylor will surely want to end the US leg of what will be the highest grossing tour of all time with a bang. Also, doing so will give her a huge viral moment (and hopefully her entire catalogue a boost).
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Post by Az Paynter on Aug 2, 2023 6:16:00 GMT -5
POP: 3 1 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 16054 14801 1253 49.032
+224 Spins -17 Bullet +0.397 Audience
HOT AC: 9 8 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 3737 3123 614 14.269
+110 Spins +9 Bullet +0.395 Audience
AC: 19 15 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 190 94 96 1.808
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Aug 2, 2023 8:56:28 GMT -5
Anyone have an estimate to what the spin ceiling is? I never tire of seeing this get +200s but how far can it actually go still?
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