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Post by pnobelysk on Jan 14, 2024 18:45:07 GMT -5
I agree everything about it is incredible. I disagree about the pop radio death age and really think that has changed over the last 10 years. Yes there’s still ageism but the age has been bumped up for sure. Name a female artist who regularly scores hits on CHR over the age of 35? Not just a one-off top 10 but regularly charting their songs in the top 10, 5, 1… I didn’t realize they had to regularly make the top 10 to count?? Not sure how that was dictated? Pink had respectful success since turning 35. Beyonce got two top 10s this era with the only two songs she sent. Basically all of sias American career. Gwen Stefani. Madonna did. Janet Jackson started on track for this pre Super Bowl.
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Post by tekkenguy on Jan 14, 2024 21:26:28 GMT -5
Name a female artist who regularly scores hits on CHR over the age of 35? Not just a one-off top 10 but regularly charting their songs in the top 10, 5, 1… I didn’t realize they had to regularly make the top 10 to count?? Not sure how that was dictated? Pink had respectful success since turning 35. Beyonce got two top 10s this era with the only two songs she sent. Basically all of sias American career. Gwen Stefani. Madonna did. Janet Jackson started on track for this pre Super Bowl. Mariah was 35 for We Belong Together. J-Lo was in her 30s throughout most of her heyday. SZA is nearing 35. Nicki Minaj is over 40.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jan 15, 2024 6:44:16 GMT -5
Probably the last week in the top 3 on pop radio as Jack Harlow's "Lovin on Me" is coming up fast, but 25 consecutive weeks in the top 3 is a great result. 18th non-consecutive week at #1 on HAC and also finally #1 on AC after being stuck behind Miley Cyrus' "Flowers" for so long!
SUNDAY PUBLISHED UPDATE (1/14)
POP: 3 3 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 13709 13880 -171 38.174
Chart run: 43-31-23-18-11-7-4-1-1-1-1-1-2-2-1-1-1-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-3-3-3-3-3-3-3
HOT AC: 1 1 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 5607 5698 -91 20.571
Chart run: 47-30-23-21-16-10-8-6-3-1-1-1-2-2-1-1-1-1-2-1-1-1-1-1-2-1-1-1-1-1-1
AC: 2 1 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 2582 2448 134 12.613
Chart run: 48-126-40-26-17-12-9-8-8-8-8-8-8-7-7-4-4-2-2-2-2-3-2-2-4-4-2-2-1
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Post by Dylan :) on Jan 15, 2024 6:50:30 GMT -5
I didn’t realize they had to regularly make the top 10 to count?? Not sure how that was dictated? Pink had respectful success since turning 35. Beyonce got two top 10s this era with the only two songs she sent. Basically all of sias American career. Gwen Stefani. Madonna did. Janet Jackson started on track for this pre Super Bowl. Mariah was 35 for We Belong Together. J-Lo was in her 30s throughout most of her heyday. SZA is nearing 35. Nicki Minaj is over 40. No way would I have thought Nicki or SZA were ‘that old’. I wonder if maybe it depends on more than just age: if you look your age, how long you’ve been on the charts, what the music is like (e.g. does it sound fresh and young like Kill Bill), etc. I don’t think it’s as simple as you reach X age and Y happens
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Post by balletgirlmom on Jan 16, 2024 9:37:34 GMT -5
Finally, Cruel Summer is #1 on the Billboard AC Chart!
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Post by Acid Eyes on Jan 20, 2024 21:42:04 GMT -5
Just ran the numbers using the Hot 100 GOAT list and realized this is pretty much guaranteed to become her biggest hit ever.
It's currently about 200k points away from Shake It Off and Anti-Hero at the moment. It's projected to be #3 this upcoming week and #2 the following week, which puts it only 142k away from her top songs after 38 weeks on the chart.
It would just need an average of 15k points for the remaining 14 weeks to get there. And that's only assuming it gets to 52 weeks on the chart and goes recurrent. Should it stay above #25 on the Hot 100 (which as long as its streaming and Pop/HAC/AC airplay stays relatively stable for awhile), it'll have no trouble at all.
[I'm using Flowers as a comparison. It's got 30 million fewer radio impressions and isn't in the top 200 for either Spotify or Apple Music yet is hovering around #20 on the Hot 100.]
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Post by musiclife on Jan 21, 2024 1:32:27 GMT -5
I hope this becomes her biggest hit. I would love if a Universal song became her biggest song.
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Post by someguy on Jan 21, 2024 5:13:18 GMT -5
I hope this becomes her biggest hit. I would love if a Universal song became her biggest song. I think this already is her biggest hit. The question just becomes how big does it get.
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Post by Rhythm Nation on Jan 21, 2024 7:19:13 GMT -5
And more importantly, when was the last time a song thread reached 90+ pages?
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Post by sheerio on Jan 21, 2024 8:23:53 GMT -5
And more importantly, when was the last time a song thread reached 90+ pages? I'm not sure but I know LWYMMD exceeds even 110 lol
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Post by musiclife on Jan 21, 2024 12:29:09 GMT -5
Aw this thread was fun. ♥️ But I love how big this song still is. I hope it has a summer revival. ♥️ I hope this becomes her biggest hit. I would love if a Universal song became her biggest song. I think this already is her biggest hit. The question just becomes how big does it get. I can't wait for it to cross 2 billion on spotify. ♥️ It's also only like 62 million away from Blank Space on spotify. This is still gaining like 4.4 million a day globally while Blank Space gains like 1 million. Once the tour restarts it's gonna gain huge traction again in the world.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jan 22, 2024 6:37:24 GMT -5
19th non-consecutive week at #1 on HAC and 2nd consecutive week at #1 on AC. Finally out of the top 3 on Pop for the first time since the chart dated July 23, 2023 when this was at #4.
SUNDAY PUBLISHED UPDATE (1/21)
POP: 3 5 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 12746 13709 -963 33.939
Chart run: 43-31-23-18-11-7-4-1-1-1-1-1-2-2-1-1-1-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-5
HOT AC: 1 1 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 5640 5607 33 20.397
Chart run: 47-30-23-21-16-10-8-6-3-1-1-1-2-2-1-1-1-1-2-1-1-1-1-1-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1
AC: 1 1 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 2615 2582 33 12.637
Chart run: 48-126-40-26-17-12-9-8-8-8-8-8-8-7-7-4-4-2-2-2-2-3-2-2-4-4-2-2-1-1
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Post by musiclife on Jan 22, 2024 12:44:12 GMT -5
What's the record for most weeks at #1 on Hot AC?
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Post by Dylan :) on Jan 22, 2024 13:51:32 GMT -5
#3 (-1) on the Hot 100, predicted to return to #2 again next week
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Post by musiciscool on Jan 22, 2024 19:17:55 GMT -5
What's the record for most weeks at #1 on Hot AC? Smooth by Santana f/ Rob Thomas which spent 23 weeks at #1.
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Post by Acid Eyes on Jan 24, 2024 20:32:26 GMT -5
Kworb is showing this is now appearing on 4 formats - anyone know what the new one is? Assuming it's either Dance or Rhythmic?
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Post by sportytheartist on Jan 24, 2024 20:54:39 GMT -5
Kworb is showing this is now appearing on 4 formats - anyone know what the new one is? Assuming it's either Dance or Rhythmic? It’s Rhythmic AC, it’s a format that focuses on rhythmic hits toward an adult audience. Here is all its’ formats: #2 (=) Cruel Summer By: Taylor Swift — 70.926M (-0.497M) ◇ AC — 15.152M (+0.153M) ◇ Hot AC — 21.549M (+0.011M) ◇ Adult Hits — 0.071M (+0.001M) ◇ Top 40 — 34.129M (-0.687M) ◇ Rhythmic AC — 0.025M (+0.025M) — *New Format*
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Post by theflying on Jan 26, 2024 14:55:38 GMT -5
What a monster
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Post by musiclife on Jan 26, 2024 17:40:38 GMT -5
What's the record for most weeks at #1 on Hot AC? Smooth by Santana f/ Rob Thomas which spent 23 weeks at #1. This coming Sunday will be 20. I wonder if it can get to 23 weeks.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Jan 29, 2024 11:37:56 GMT -5
20th non-consecutive week at #1 on HAC. "Flowers" is back at #1 on AC.
SUNDAY PUBLISHED UPDATE (1/28)
POP: 5 6 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 11839 12746 -907 30.486
Chart run: 43-31-23-18-11-7-4-1-1-1-1-1-2-2-1-1-1-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-5-6
HOT AC: 1 1 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 5617 5640 -23 20.414
Chart run: 47-30-23-21-16-10-8-6-3-1-1-1-2-2-1-1-1-1-2-1-1-1-1-1-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1
AC: 1 2 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 2552 2615 -63 12.619
Chart run: 48-126-40-26-17-12-9-8-8-8-8-8-8-7-7-4-4-2-2-2-2-3-2-2-4-4-2-2-1-1-2
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Post by Dylan :) on Jan 29, 2024 13:39:39 GMT -5
Back to #2 on the Hot 100
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Jan 29, 2024 13:57:47 GMT -5
The longevity of this is insane. Her biggest hit ever imo
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Post by sportytheartist on Jan 29, 2024 14:06:54 GMT -5
It is now her 3rd biggest Hot 100 hit, surpassing “Blank Space” and “You Belong With Me”.
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Jan 29, 2024 22:00:46 GMT -5
Any contenders to Cruel Summer on HAC?
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Post by Acid Eyes on Jan 29, 2024 22:33:48 GMT -5
Any contenders to Cruel Summer on HAC? Greedy is about 1000 spins behind but has a bullet of ~400. Could take over in 2-3 weeks if it maintains that. I'm going to assume it slows down and takes about 4 weeks to climb to the top. Lil Boo Thing is about 700 spins behind but only has a bullet of ~80. I don't see it passing CS anytime soon unless it starts hemorrhaging spins.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Feb 5, 2024 7:29:04 GMT -5
21st non-consecutive week at #1 on HAC and back for a 3rd non-consecutive week at #1 on AC.
SUNDAY PUBLISHED UPDATE (2/4)
POP: 6 6 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 10688 11839 -1151 29.046
Chart run: 43-31-23-18-11-7-4-1-1-1-1-1-2-2-1-1-1-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-3-3-3-3-3-3-3-5-6-6
HOT AC: 1 1 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 5566 5617 -51 20.456
Chart run: 47-30-23-21-16-10-8-6-3-1-1-1-2-2-1-1-1-1-2-1-1-1-1-1-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1
AC: 2 1 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 2575 2552 23 11.980
Chart run: 48-126-40-26-17-12-9-8-8-8-8-8-8-7-7-4-4-2-2-2-2-3-2-2-4-4-2-2-1-1-2-1
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Post by irice22 on Feb 5, 2024 11:31:42 GMT -5
The longevity of this is insane. Her biggest hit ever imo In the dead of winter too.
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Post by Dylan :) on Feb 5, 2024 13:44:40 GMT -5
Still #3 on the Hot 100 too, only pushed down a spot by HISS at #1
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Post by jdanton2 on Feb 9, 2024 5:41:21 GMT -5
looks like this should go recurrent Sunday . this is Fridays update.
6 10 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 9457 11101 -1644 26.343 11 11 KENYA GRACE Strangers 9395 8895 500 25.672
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Post by balletgirlmom on Feb 9, 2024 8:21:06 GMT -5
Nice to see Taylor's Cruel Summer back to #1 on AC Radio.
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