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Post by thegreatdivine on Sept 23, 2019 15:27:38 GMT -5
Yeah the Hot 100 entries thing is not that big of a deal now, specially comparing between different decades. Remember there was a time when the #1 song on radio didn't even qualify for the Hot 100 on a technicallity. Drake might be getting the most Hot 100 entries thing soon but context is key, much like how Nicki brags about most entries for a female yet a big percentage of them didn't even last a month (or even reach #1). This applies to everything chart related. Drake scored more top 10 hits from 2016-2019 than he did from 2009-2015 thanks to streaming and him being a dominant force as a streaming artist. Still, it's not easy to chart songs on the Hot 100. Tons of artists drop songs that debut and peak in the bubbling Hot 100 chart and never make it to the main Hot 100 chart. Nicki's Queen album didn't chart up to 6 songs following it's release. Because the biggest acts chart most of the songs on their albums following a release doesn't mean it's something that's easy for everyone to do so it still matters. Same way scoring a top 10 isn't generally an easy thing to do simply because certain acts score top 10 hits easily. You can't just dismiss these things because they're easier to do now for certain artists.
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Post by moonlite on Sept 23, 2019 15:29:18 GMT -5
iHype. Behind Barz actually charted and did so in the exact same position Won't Be Late debuted at. Wow this is not a good debut. Is this his lowest charting single in quite a long time? Huh? Its an amazing debut for a freestyle thats been on YouTube for over a year and that Drake didn’t even announce was dropping on streaming
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Post by thegreatdivine on Sept 23, 2019 15:31:54 GMT -5
iHype. Behind Barz actually charted and did so in the exact same position Won't Be Late debuted at. Wow this is not a good debut. Is this his lowest charting single in quite a long time? No, that's why I stated that Won't Be Late, his song with Swae Lee, also debuted at #75. Behind Barz is a decent debut, all things considering. It's really just a freestyle he did over a year ago which he slapped at the tail end of the soundtrack album for a British TV series. Every other track on the album is by a British rap artist and so a lot of Drake's US fans didn't care to check it out. I wasn't even completely sure it'd debut on the Hot 100.
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Post by kierz7 on Sept 23, 2019 15:34:35 GMT -5
Random:
I need Rihanna to release a single before November 18th.
I need her to score her 10th #1 single this decade and tie The Beatles, The Supremes & Mariah Carey.
(Granted it debuts at #1).
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Sept 23, 2019 15:40:31 GMT -5
Random: I need Rihanna to release a single before November 18th. I need her to score her 10th #1 single this decade and tie The Beatles, The Supremes & Mariah Carey. (Granted it debuts at #1). it would need around 400 points probably to debut at 1. The anticipation for rihannas comeback would get that easy
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Post by Mayman on Sept 23, 2019 15:54:13 GMT -5
Wow this is not a good debut. Is this his lowest charting single in quite a long time? What? It wasn’t an official single of any sort, nor was it sent to radio or promoted/marketed beyond social media by a select portion of his fans. It’s nothing but a random, generic, quasi-listenable track that Drake usually throws out there every so often, and they do what they do. LMAO. Well sorry but Drake has a lot of chart power, and a #75 debut is not good. "Omerta", which is a very similar sounding song to "Behind Barz - Bonus" debuted at #35 even while being overshadowed by much more popular "Money In The Grave". Wow this is not a good debut. Is this his lowest charting single in quite a long time? Huh? Its an amazing debut for a freestyle thats been on YouTube for over a year and that Drake didn’t even announce was dropping on streaming Drake did announce it though? He promoted it several times throughout his social media. Wow this is not a good debut. Is this his lowest charting single in quite a long time? No, that's why I stated that Won't Be Late, his song with Swae Lee, also debuted at #75. Behind Barz is a decent debut, all things considering. It's really just a freestyle he did over a year ago which he slapped at the tail end of the soundtrack album for a British TV series. Every other track on the album is by a British rap artist and so a lot of Drake's US fans didn't care to check it out. I wasn't even completely sure it'd debut on the Hot 100. Sorry I meant a single from his as the lead. I honestly had no idea where it would place but I truly thought it was doing better on streaming earlier in the week, especially with high placement on a lot of Spotify's popular playlists.
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Post by leonagwen on Sept 23, 2019 15:56:03 GMT -5
I'm sick of the top 3 songs. Dont get me wrong, I love Camila but Senorita has been so overplayed, and so has Truth Hurts and Bad Guy. It's time for some new songs to take over.
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Post by Naos on Sept 23, 2019 16:01:08 GMT -5
New arrivals this week: #100 - "Remember You Young" by Thomas Rhett #97 - "1, 2 Many" by Luke Combs and Brooks & Dunn #91 - "Hot Girl Bummer" by blackbear #76 - "Mood Swings" by A Boogie Wit Da Hoodie #75 - "Behind Barz" by Drake #45 - "Graveyard" by Halsey #40 - "Camelot" by NLE Choppa #13 - "Don't Call Me Angel" by Ariana Grande, Miley Cyrus & Lana Del Rey
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Post by thegreatdivine on Sept 23, 2019 16:03:02 GMT -5
Mayman he actually didn't promote it at all. He didn't even post about it on his Instagram, which is the social media platform he uses. I just checked. Omertà debuted in the top 40 for the same reason Diplomatic Immunity debuted in the top 10. It was following a short hiatus from Drake and it was a part of his first new solo music offering since Scorpion so fans rushed to stream it. Also, Drake fans are used to him doing this. Releasing loosie tracks that will never appear on any projects and will never get any real push. He's been doing it since the start of his career. Only difference is that now, with streaming, people track the chart activity of every single song he drops but Drake fans know the songs to throw their full support behind and the ones not to. Songs like Right Hand, Signs, 0-100, all loosies dropped just for the sake of dropping music.
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Post by moonlite on Sept 23, 2019 16:06:22 GMT -5
What? It wasn’t an official single of any sort, nor was it sent to radio or promoted/marketed beyond social media by a select portion of his fans. It’s nothing but a random, generic, quasi-listenable track that Drake usually throws out there every so often, and they do what they do. LMAO. Well sorry but Drake has a lot of chart power, and a #75 debut is not good. "Omerta", which is a very similar sounding song to "Behind Barz - Bonus" debuted at #35 even while being overshadowed by much more popular "Money In The Grave". Huh? Its an amazing debut for a freestyle thats been on YouTube for over a year and that Drake didn’t even announce was dropping on streaming Drake did announce it though? He promoted it several times throughout his social media. Why are you comparing it to Omerta, which was a brand new/never heard song? You thought the Care Package songs not debuting top 50 was a flop too? And when did he promote the soundtrack several times? He posted about it once on Twitter and not a single time on IG which is his main platform. He didn't even indicate that he even had a song on the soundtrack on the single twitter post.
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Post by spicymapping on Sept 23, 2019 16:11:36 GMT -5
I'm equally sick of the top 3 songs but looking at #4.... yeah, let's keep it as is.
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Post by iHype. on Sept 23, 2019 16:13:25 GMT -5
Omerta was a brand new song. This is a 1 year old freestyle that's been out since Scorpion's release week. What is the point of that compaerison?
Compare this song to another 1+ year old song finally released officially.
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Post by Mayman on Sept 23, 2019 16:14:14 GMT -5
Mayman he actually didn't promote it at all. He didn't even post about it on his Instagram, which is the social media platform he uses. I just checked. Omertà debuted in the top 40 for the same reason Diplomatic Immunity debuted in the top 10. It was following a short hiatus from Drake and it was a part of his first new solo music offering since Scorpion so fans rushed to stream it. Also, Drake fans are used to him doing this. Releasing loosie tracks that will never appear on any projects and will never get any real push. He's been doing it since the start of his career. Only difference is that now, with streaming, people track the chart activity of every single song he drops but Drake fans know the songs to throw their full support behind and the ones not to. Songs like Right Hand, Signs, 0-100, all loosies dropped just for the sake of dropping music. He posted about the single and soundtrack several times on his Instagram Story.
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Post by Mayman on Sept 23, 2019 16:18:08 GMT -5
I literally said the debut was not good, not the biggest flop in music history like some of you are making it out to be. The same people who were posting long paragraphs on how we should respect people's opinions and allow anyone to say whatever they want are now doing the exact opposite of that to me. But I guess the beloved Drake is a special case, right thegreatdivine ?
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Post by iHype. on Sept 23, 2019 16:21:22 GMT -5
I literally said the debut was not good, not the biggest flop in music history like some of you are making it out to be. The same people who were posting long paragraphs on how we should respect people's opinions and allow anyone to say whatever they want are now doing the exact opposite of that to me. But I guess the beloved Drake is a special case, right thegreatdivine ? I called you out for choosing an odd comparison of 2 songs that frankly made no sense. Not for your opinion on its debut. Why would you compare a brand new song to a 1+ year old song? Lmao. I guess Lemonade's release to Spotify/Apple Music this year flopped because it did lower numbers than Ariana's new album....
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Post by Mayman on Sept 23, 2019 16:22:30 GMT -5
I literally said the debut was not good, not the biggest flop in music history like some of you are making it out to be. The same people who were posting long paragraphs on how we should respect people's opinions and allow anyone to say whatever they want are now doing the exact opposite of that to me. But I guess the beloved Drake is a special case, right thegreatdivine ? I called you out for choosing an odd comparison of 2 songs that frankly made no sense. Not for your opinion on its debut. Why would you compare a brand new song to a 1+ year old song? Lmao. I guess Lemonade's release to Spotify/Apple Music this year flopped because it did lower numbers than Ariana's new album.... Oh I wasn't talking about you. But I can see why the comparison wasn't entirely fair. I just had a little better expectations for it, that's all.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Sept 23, 2019 16:25:36 GMT -5
Mayman here's a comparison for you. Behind Barz, a 14-month old freestyle, finally got released on streaming and debuted at #75. 4 songs from Lover didn't debut higher than that.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Sept 23, 2019 16:27:36 GMT -5
I literally said the debut was not good, not the biggest flop in music history like some of you are making it out to be. The same people who were posting long paragraphs on how we should respect people's opinions and allow anyone to say whatever they want are now doing the exact opposite of that to me. But I guess the beloved Drake is a special case, right thegreatdivine ? No one is attacking you or calling you names. They're just offering context. I explained to you why I believe it debuted at #75, you're insisting that Drake has chart power and hence it should have debuted higher. I don't know what else to tell you, lol.
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Post by Mayman on Sept 23, 2019 16:30:02 GMT -5
I literally said the debut was not good, not the biggest flop in music history like some of you are making it out to be. The same people who were posting long paragraphs on how we should respect people's opinions and allow anyone to say whatever they want are now doing the exact opposite of that to me. But I guess the beloved Drake is a special case, right thegreatdivine ? No one is attacking you or calling you names. They're just offering context. I explained to you why I believe it debuted at #75, you're insisting that Drake has chart power and hence it should have debuted higher. I don't know what else to tell you, lol. You don't have to tell me anything else if you don't want to
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Post by thegreatdivine on Sept 23, 2019 16:36:01 GMT -5
Mayman you said it wasn't a good debut and asked me if it was how lowest debuting single in a while. I explained that it wasn't and stated that a recent Swae Lee song he was featured on debuted in the same exact position and then went to explain why I felt it was a decent debut. Other people who quoted you did the same thing. We all tried to offer you context behind the song so you'd understand why we felt it was a decent debut. Sorry if you felt attacked. Also, I said I don't know what else to tell you because I literally don't know what else to say.
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Post by Mayman on Sept 23, 2019 16:39:41 GMT -5
I meant single as a lead, not a feature. I mentioned that above.
And like I said, you don't have to say anything if you don't want to. I didn't ask you anything else.
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Post by gabe on Sept 23, 2019 17:37:10 GMT -5
don't call me angel is going to save america from someone you loved hitting #1
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Post by inverse on Sept 23, 2019 18:02:51 GMT -5
^ I wish but sadly it's probably going to fall pretty quick and not recover. Best hope right now is a long run for Truth Hurts
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Post by Naos on Sept 23, 2019 18:17:51 GMT -5
Notable gains: #29 - How Do You Sleep? (+10) #35 - On Chill (+13) #53 - Time (+11) #55 - Ballin' (+14) #57 - Prayed For You (+14) #59 - 223's (+28) #62 - Even Though I'm Leaving (+30) #74 - Good Vibes (+11)
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Post by spicymapping on Sept 23, 2019 18:30:44 GMT -5
One Man Band @ 72 What Happens In a Small Town @ 85
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Post by garrettlen on Sept 23, 2019 18:57:27 GMT -5
Random: I need Rihanna to release a single before November 18th. I need her to score her 10th #1 single this decade and tie The Beatles, The Supremes & Mariah Carey. (Granted it debuts at #1). What? The Beatles scored a total of 18 #1 hits between 1964 and 1969. The Supremes scored 12 #1 hits in roughly the same time period. Mariah Carey scored 14 #1 hits between 1990 and 1999.
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Post by Naos on Sept 23, 2019 20:10:12 GMT -5
Bubbling Under: 1. Tainy & Anuel AA - Adicto (+7) 2. DJ Snake, J Balvin & Tyga - Loco Contigo (+1) 3. Illenium & Jon Bellion - Good Things Fall Apart (-1) 4. Miranda Lambert - It All Comes Out in the Wash (+3) 5. Layton Greene, Lil Baby, City Girls & PnB Rock - Leave Em Alone (+8) 6. OneRepublic - Somebody to Love (debut) 7. DaniLeigh - Easy (+5) 8. Tones and I - Dance Monkey (+8) 9. Jason Aldean - We Back (debut) 10. OneRepublic - Rescue Me (=) 11. 24KGoldn - Valentino (debut) 12. Blake Shelton - Hell Right (-6) 13. Sam Feldt - Post Malone (+1) 14. Melanie Martinez - Show & Tell (+3) 15. Lauren Daigle - Rescue (=) 16. Maluma - 11PM (+4) 17. Jon Pardi - Heartache Medication (re-entry) 18. 5 Seconds of Summer - Teeth (+1) 19. Bazzi - I.F.L.Y. (+3) 20. Garth Brooks & Blake Shelton - Dive Bar (+5) 21. Dominic Fike - 3 Nights (=) 22. Dustin Lynch - Ridin' Roads (re-entry) 23. Major Lazer - Que Calor (debut) 24. DaBaby - Goin Baby (-1) 25. Gunna - Baby Birkin (re-entry)
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Post by Naos on Sept 23, 2019 21:08:20 GMT -5
Top 10 artists on social media (Social 50): 1. BTS (=) *145th week at #1* 2. SuperM (debut) 3. TWICE (+7) 4. BAEKHYUN (+33) 5. SEVENTEEN (-1) 6. Ariana Grande (+2) 7. X1 (-5) 8. EXO (+9) 9. NCT 127 (+7) 10. Justin Bieber (+35)
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Sept 23, 2019 21:19:38 GMT -5
^ I don't want to offend anyone, but I remember the time when this chart was about FAMOUS people.
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Post by dovahduck on Sept 23, 2019 21:31:04 GMT -5
Bubbling Under: 1. Tainy & Anuel AA - Adicto (+7) 2. DJ Snake, J Balvin & Tyga - Loco Contigo (+1) 3. 4. Miranda Lambert - It All Comes Out in the Wash (+3) 5. Layton Greene, Lil Baby, City Girls & PnB Rock - Leave Em Alone (+8) 6. OneRepublic - Somebody to Love (debut) 7. DaniLeigh - Easy (+5) 8. Tones and I - Dance Monkey (+8) 9. 10. 11. 24KGoldn - Valentino (debut) 12. 13. 14. Melanie Martinez - Show & Tell (+3) 15. 16. Maluma - 11PM (+4) 17. Jon Pardi - Heartache Medication (re-entry) 18. 19. 20. Garth Brooks & Blake Shelton - Dive Bar (+5) 21. 22. 23. Major Lazer - Que Calor (debut) 24. 25. Gunna - Baby Birkin (re-entry) Go Maluma! Get "11PM" to chart!
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