Billboard Hot 100: 9/28/19

[whales10268]

Sunflower is coming for Radioactive

[earth]

^i doubt it, mainly because of the 52 week rule

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

Inside the 'Old Town Road' Charts Decision

9/19/2019 by Joe Levy 

When Lil Nas X self-released “Old Town Road” on Dec. 3, 2018, he marked it as a country song in the track metadata that streaming services use. “It’s a country trap song,” he now says firmly. “But once you take a look at it, I feel like it leans more toward country. Of course it’s easier to get seen [as a rap song], but I didn’t expect to see it on any chart. It’s not like my music was selling prior to it coming out.”

Billboard uses the genre tags provided by content creators as guidelines, and the charts team initially tracked “Old Town Road” as it had been listed. In March, as the song began to gain velocity on the charts -- aided by escalating video views from TikTok -- Billboard’s team examined the song more closely. “The charts team reviews titles each week as they’re released, as they gain in popularity and start to populate our various sales and streaming data feeds, which we receive from Nielsen Music,” says Silvio Pietroluongo, Billboard’s senior vp charts and data development, who adds that even in the streaming era, genre-­specific charts remain “reflective of how the music industry markets and promotes music, as well as how fans consume and gravitate” to it. (Digital services may not offer genre charts, but genre-driven playlists like Spotify’s Rap Caviar have unquestionable power.) Pietroluongo calls Billboard’s genre charts “an [organizational] tool to help the industry and consumer slice through data,” adding that his team determines genre after looking at an artist’s chart history, listening to the song, looking at streaming services and examining how and where the label is promoting and marketing the song.

In March, after signing Lil Nas X, Columbia did not initially promote “Old Town Road” as a country song, and ultimately the charts team decided to remove it from the Hot Country Songs chart dated March 19. “We did reach out to Sony in Nashville to see if they were involved with the project, which they were not at the time,” says Pietroluongo. Removing “Old Town Road” from Hot Country Songs was, he says, purely an internal decision. Lil Nas X recalls that, at the time, he was happy just to still be on the Billboard Hot 100. But he still points out that Florida George Line and Bebe Rexha’s “Meant to Be” made the country charts, and “there’s trap drums on that.”

Pietroluongo allows that country music has shifted recently to more “beat-­heavy tracks” (pointing to Sam Hunt and Thomas Rhett), but notes that “Meant to Be” was “actively worked by the label to country radio and eventually hit No. 1 on the Country Airplay chart.” That, along with FGL’s long-­established presence on the country charts, got “Meant to Be” country classification. Blanco Brown’s “The Git Up” -- another trap-flavored track -- was promoted to country radio by Nashville-based Broken Bow, and Brown had a history of recording country music, thus Billboard tracked it on the country charts.

“Old Town Road” may well redefine the world around it. Pietroluongo points to “Uptown Funk!” as another “borderline song” that opened doors -- a throwback funk track from Mark Ronson and Bruno Mars, it connected at top 40 radio before crossing over to R&B stations. It was not tracked on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart, but its success meant that R&B radio subsequently embraced Mars’ classic-­sounding 24K Magic tracks -- “That’s What I Like” hit No. 1 on both the Hot 100 and Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs.

“We made the decision we felt was consistent,” Pietro­luongo says now of “Old Town Road.” “We understand that everyone hears music differently, so we understand how people can look at that and think differently.”

[iHype.]

US Apple Music Top Songs
12 +2 Drake - Behind Barz (Bonus)

I can't believe its been actually stable/growing the entire week. It looks like it should chart on Hot 100.

[thegreatdivine]

Sept 19, 2019 13:34:25 GMT -5 iHype. said:

US Apple Music Top Songs
12 +2 Drake - Behind Barz (Bonus)

I can't believe its been actually stable/growing the entire week. It looks like it should chart on Hot 100.

When was the last time a song released by Drake either as a lead artist or as a feature failed to chart on the Hot 100?

[nathanalbright]

Sept 19, 2019 13:44:50 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Sept 19, 2019 13:34:25 GMT -5 iHype. said:

US Apple Music Top Songs
12 +2 Drake - Behind Barz (Bonus)

I can't believe its been actually stable/growing the entire week. It looks like it should chart on Hot 100.

When was the last time a song released by Drake either as a lead artist or as a feature failed to chart on the Hot 100?

Well, five of the songs from Care Package failed to chart on the Hot 100, although all of those were somewhat oldish songs.  Some of the songs from If You're Reading This It's Too Late failed to chart in 2015, though, so it's been a while.

[thegreatdivine]

Sept 19, 2019 13:48:02 GMT -5 nathanalbright said:

Sept 19, 2019 13:44:50 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

When was the last time a song released by Drake either as a lead artist or as a feature failed to chart on the Hot 100?

Well, five of the songs from Care Package failed to chart on the Hot 100, although all of those were somewhat oldish songs.  Some of the songs from If You're Reading This It's Too Late failed to chart in 2015, though, so it's been a while.

I meant songs released as singles, not songs as part of an album. Behind Barz technically isn't a single, but I was just wondering when was the last time a single featuring an appearance by Drake failed to chart on the Hot 100.

[moonlite]

Sept 19, 2019 13:34:25 GMT -5 iHype. said:

US Apple Music Top Songs
12 +2 Drake - Behind Barz (Bonus)

I can't believe its been actually stable/growing the entire week. It looks like it should chart on Hot 100.

Yea this is crazy. I thought it would peak high AM for a few days and start freefalling like the Care Package songs. But its been nearly a week and it’s still growing. His power is insane

[ddlz]

Sept 19, 2019 10:36:51 GMT -5 iggyamo said:

Sept 19, 2019 9:36:14 GMT -5 ddlz said:

Rumors are swirling around that Drake and Bad Bunny are about to drop a joint album.

Is there a source? Because I don’t see anything about that

The rumors have been going on for months now and Bad Bunny didn't deny it when he was asked about it at the VMAs.  ;)

[nathanalbright]

Sept 19, 2019 14:15:43 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Sept 19, 2019 13:48:02 GMT -5 nathanalbright said:

Well, five of the songs from Care Package failed to chart on the Hot 100, although all of those were somewhat oldish songs.  Some of the songs from If You're Reading This It's Too Late failed to chart in 2015, though, so it's been a while.

I meant songs released as singles, not songs as part of an album. Behind Barz technically isn't a single, but I was just wondering when was the last time a single featuring an appearance by Drake failed to chart on the Hot 100.

The last one I know of was the Drake remix for Lemon in 2018.  A few of his features from 2017 didn't chart either, but still, it is an impressive set of longevity and clout that he has had.

[iHype.]

I was bored, so I compiled Drake's 40 Biggest Hot 100 Hits using the Billboard formula method. They only ever seem to publish a top 10 for him. 

www.sporcle.com/games/iHype/name-drakes-biggest-hot-100-hits
Here's the Sporcle quiz you can take to guess them.

If you're impatient/can't figure them all out though... [*SICKO MODE is included, although Billboard would not include]

SPOILER: Click to show

{Spoiler}
1. God's Plan
2. One Dance
3. Work
4. SICKO MODE
5. Hotline Bling
6. Nice for What
7. In My Feelings
8. What's My Name?
9. Best I Ever Had
10. Hold On, We're Going Home
11. Look Alive
12. Started from the Bottom
13. Find Your Love
14. No Guidance
15. Take Care
16. Fake Love
17. The Motto
18. Going Bad
19. Yes Indeed
20. Forever
21. Love Me
22. Headlines
23. Jumpman
24. I'm On One
25. F**kin Problems
26. MIA
27. Too Good
28. Right Above It
29. Nonstop
30. She Will
31. Moment for Life
32. Money in the Grave
33. Walk It Talk It
34. Only
35. Controlla
36. Over
37. For Free
38. Tuesday
39. Make Me Proud
40. Passionfruit

[𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿]

Sept 19, 2019 8:34:02 GMT -5 Leo ✔ said:

Omg Someone You Loved predicted to jump to #4 warms my heart

This is so okay for me!

[thegreatdivine]

In new music news, Mandy Moore released her first single in 10 years. Bebe Rehxa and Hailee Steinfield dropped singles (both are part of forthcoming soundtrack albums), Alicia Keys dropped a new single that features Miguel and Tove Lo dropped her fourth album, Sunshine Kitty.

[𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿]

Sept 19, 2019 11:05:44 GMT -5 earth said:

^i doubt it, mainly because of the 52 week rule

But what's possible is that "Sunflower" can surpass the 25/52 rule and spend 53-58 weeks within the Top 25.

[thegreatdivine]

iHype. this is unrelated, but lately, I've been seeing people posting figures for Spotify stream totals and they have Drake at 26 billion streams, which I know is incorrect because as at when I last checked in late July, streams from all his projects (excluding Care Package) were at 28 billion streams. Also, as at October last year when chartmasters updated his Spotify streams page, his features + other non-album tracks were at 9.5 billion streams. There's no way that number isn't approaching 11 billion now. Is there any way to get his actual Spotify total figures?

[kierz7]

Sept 19, 2019 17:43:41 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

iHype. this is unrelated, but lately, I've been seeing people posting figures for Spotify stream totals and they have Drake at 26 billion streams, which I know is incorrect because as at when I last checked in late July, streams from all his projects (excluding Care Package) were at 28 billion streams. Also, as at October last year when chartmasters updated his Spotify streams page, his features + other non-album tracks were at 9.5 billion streams. There's no way that number isn't approaching 11 billion now. Is there any way to get his actual Spotify total figures?

Where are you seeing these totals and what’s the current ranking/list?

[earth]

Sept 19, 2019 15:52:30 GMT -5 𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿 said:

Sept 19, 2019 11:05:44 GMT -5 earth said:

^i doubt it, mainly because of the 52 week rule

But what's possible is that "Sunflower" can surpass the 25/52 rule and spend 53-58 weeks within the Top 25.

Yeah but there’s no way it’ll beat radioactive. It might have if the 25/52 rule wasn’t a thing. I could potentially see it surpassing 60 weeks though in a perfect situation

[iHype.]

Sept 19, 2019 17:43:41 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

iHype. this is unrelated, but lately, I've been seeing people posting figures for Spotify stream totals and they have Drake at 26 billion streams, which I know is incorrect because as at when I last checked in late July, streams from all his projects (excluding Care Package) were at 28 billion streams. Also, as at October last year when chartmasters updated his Spotify streams page, his features + other non-album tracks were at 9.5 billion streams. There's no way that number isn't approaching 11 billion now. Is there any way to get his actual Spotify total figures?

Chartmaster's tool that counts all streams on an artist's Spotify page (excluding features), is the only tool that obtains total Spotify figures.

It could be leaving some songs out ofcourse. Other than that, the only way to get any totals is for someone themselves to manually add them up.

[thegreatdivine]

Sept 19, 2019 19:03:18 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

Sept 19, 2019 17:43:41 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

iHype. this is unrelated, but lately, I've been seeing people posting figures for Spotify stream totals and they have Drake at 26 billion streams, which I know is incorrect because as at when I last checked in late July, streams from all his projects (excluding Care Package) were at 28 billion streams. Also, as at October last year when chartmasters updated his Spotify streams page, his features + other non-album tracks were at 9.5 billion streams. There's no way that number isn't approaching 11 billion now. Is there any way to get his actual Spotify total figures?

Where are you seeing these totals and what’s the current ranking/list?

I've seen them posted on some forums and by some fan accounts on Twitter, but this is the latest time I've seen the figures.

[thegreatdivine]

Sept 19, 2019 21:01:01 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Sept 19, 2019 17:43:41 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

iHype. this is unrelated, but lately, I've been seeing people posting figures for Spotify stream totals and they have Drake at 26 billion streams, which I know is incorrect because as at when I last checked in late July, streams from all his projects (excluding Care Package) were at 28 billion streams. Also, as at October last year when chartmasters updated his Spotify streams page, his features + other non-album tracks were at 9.5 billion streams. There's no way that number isn't approaching 11 billion now. Is there any way to get his actual Spotify total figures?

Chartmaster's tool that counts all streams on an artist's Spotify page (excluding features), is the only tool that obtains total Spotify figures.

It could be leaving some songs out ofcourse. Other than that, the only way to get any totals is for someone themselves to manually add them up.

If I had to make a rough estimate, I'd put Drake's total figures around 40 billion streams.

[feldspar905]

Sept 13, 2019 17:32:33 GMT -5 earth said:

Sept 13, 2019 17:29:11 GMT -5 earth said:

Also new NLE Choppa song with Lyrical Lemnade video

And new AboogieWDH, and gucci mane song

Camelot has outstreamed even shotta flow,so it will chart.

That a boogie song sounds like fucking asthmatic Young Thug.

That gucci song is pretty dope,i would like it on the charts.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2019/09/20

1(=) Lizzo - Truth Hurts 153.66(+1.13)
2(=) Shawn Mendes & Camila Cabello - Señorita 149.25(+0.56)
3(=) Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care 128.63(-0.58)
4(=) Khalid - Talk 122.85(-2.03)
5(=) Lewis Capaldi - Someone You Loved 112.55(+2.06)
6(=) Jonas Brothers - Sucker 106.80(-0.68)
7(=) Billie Eilish - bad guy 95.98(-0.81)

8(=) Post Malone - Goodbyes (feat. Young Thug) 88.98(-0.16)
9(=) Chris Brown - No Guidance (feat. Drake) 84.13(+0.55)
10(=) Shawn Mendes - If I Can't Have You 82.37(-1.11)

11(=) Sam Smith & Normani - Dancing with a Stranger 72.66(+0.75)

14(=) SHAED - Trampoline 60.23(+0.90)

30(+2) Post Malone - Circles 43.93(+1.90)

31(=) Cole Swindell - Love You Too Late 43.17(+0.70)

33(=) Chris Janson - Good Vibes 42.22(+0.98)

34(=) Matt Stell - Prayed for You 41.06(+0.81)

50(+1) Wale - On Chill (feat. Jeremih) 33.00(+0.98)

57(+2) Lil Nas X - Panini 28.38(+1.35)

84(+4) Luke Combs - Even Though I'm Leaving 19.59(+0.89)

-(-) Halsey - Graveyard 12.49(+1.98)

-(-) Lizzo - Good as Hell 12.00(+0.73)

-(-) Ariana Grande, Miley Cyrus & Lana Del Rey - Don't Call Me Angel (Charlie's Angels) 10.23(+1.41)

[Gary]

Given no actual response from a staff member about my charts question.


I will be posting charts next week. I have seen other sites will be doing it as well - they are just going to try and be hush-hush about how they are doing it.

[jebsib]

Gary - I have to log in meticulously every single time now to get access.
It is not auto-saving my Username / password info - very frustrating.

Are you having this issue?

[Gary]

Does checking the 'remember me' box work?

[renaboss]

"Don't Call Me Angel" debuts at #2 in the UK, despite being predicted by the official website itself as the new #1 (Ed Sheeran still on top with "Take Me to London"). Hard to believe it might not even debut top 10 in the US. I know it's been said a lot that superstar collabs don't necessarily make for smash hits, but it's still surprising that three big (?) fandoms don't come through in the numbers.

[jebsib]

Sept 20, 2019 13:15:44 GMT -5 Gary said:

Does checking the 'remember me' box work?

No…
I'm on a Mac, so it may be a Safari thing. Just odd this doesn't happen on any other site.
Given Billboard.Biz and their website glitches and track record, I am hardly surprised.

FYI - Magazine charts totally redesigned this week after 7 years.

[thegreatdivine]

Sept 20, 2019 13:32:40 GMT -5 renaboss said:

"Don't Call Me Angel" debuts at #2 in the UK, despite being predicted by the official website itself as the new #1 (Ed Sheeran still on top with "Take Me to London"). Hard to believe it might not even debut top 10 in the US. I know it's been said a lot that superstar collabs don't necessarily make for smash hits, but it's still surprising that three big (?) fandoms don't come through in the numbers.

Well, it's one of the most terrible superstar collabs I've ever heard, so I'm not surprised it didn't perform as well as some people expected it to.

[xyz]

Sept 20, 2019 13:32:40 GMT -5 renaboss said:

"Don't Call Me Angel" debuts at #2 in the UK, despite being predicted by the official website itself as the new #1 (Ed Sheeran still on top with "Take Me to London"). Hard to believe it might not even debut top 10 in the US. I know it's been said a lot that superstar collabs don't necessarily make for smash hits, but it's still surprising that three big (?) fandoms don't come through in the numbers.

Surprised to see it performed worst than Boyfriend which 7th day was making 1.2 million streams in Spotify while DCMA did 800K

[Choco]

Aside from the song's quality, Lana and Miley don't really have big fanbases. Neither has been able to get a top 40 hit in a while.