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Post by Mayman on Oct 11, 2019 20:03:35 GMT -5
It's crazy how repeating looks to be repeating itself. Back in 2015, Adele came out of nowhere and was a monster on both of the main charts. Bieber released around the same time. Rihanna delayed her album to not be overshadowed by Adele. Ariana's new single came and went (Focus). One Direction also released new music.
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Post by kingvavis on Oct 11, 2019 20:13:42 GMT -5
It's crazy how repeating looks to be repeating itself. Back in 2015, Adele came out of nowhere and was a monster on both of the main charts. Bieber released around the same time. Rihanna delayed her album to not be overshadowed by Adele. Ariana's new single came and went (Focus). One Direction also released new music. And we will probably see a new Drake record by next Spring |
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Post by forg on Oct 11, 2019 21:47:03 GMT -5
I Believe may have had a short chart life but the song quite made an impact, I still hear it being performed on singing competitions or other live specials. It's probably the next most popular Idol coronation song next to A Moment Like This.
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Post by Au$tin on Oct 12, 2019 2:16:43 GMT -5
I Believe may have had a short chart life but the song quite made an impact, I still hear it being performed on singing competitions or other live specials. It's probably the next most popular Idol coronation song next to A Moment Like This. Nah that title absolutely goes to Phillip Phillips's "Home." Hell, I could see a case for "Home" being bigger than "A Moment like This" even. Then there's David Cook's "The Time of My Life," which wound up performing pretty well too. |
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Post by forg on Oct 12, 2019 3:07:25 GMT -5
I forgot about Home because it's not the typical Idol coronation ballad plus the latter seasons of Idol just felt less remarkable than the first 8 which felt like such a big deal back then.
The Time of My Life was big in my country too but I just don't hear it anymore unlike A Moment Like This and I Believe which are really popular in singing contests here and karaoke lol
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Post by kierz7 on Oct 12, 2019 5:56:58 GMT -5
QUESTION:
• Mariah Carey has 18 Hot 100 number ones.
• Rihanna has 14 Hot 100 number ones.
Does Rihanna still stand a chance in tying/surpassing Mariah Carey sometime soon, overall? What does everybody think?
(I just having this conversation on another forum).
#R9 will definitely give her a 15th number one, and possibly her 16th depending on how successful the era, is but, of course, that’s not guaranteed. Also, with how slow Rihanna has been releasing singles since 2016, and with how indecisive single success is in the streaming era (for the most part) I’m not sure.
Personally, I’d love to see Rihanna tie The Beatles - she’s 6 number ones away. That would be.......
😫😭🤯.
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Post by forg on Oct 12, 2019 6:05:41 GMT -5
To be honest, I thought she would have beaten Mariah's record by now given how fast she bagged those #1s and her pace of releasing a new album nearly every year but this 3-year hiatus is something I didn't expect from her. Maybe she still can beat her but if you ask me, probably not anymore as she is at the age where pop stars have a hard time getting chart success anymore.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Oct 12, 2019 7:38:54 GMT -5
Okay it's not on the charts yet but I hope Outnumbered by Dermot Kennedy doesn't crossover. Between Lewis Capaldi and Dean Lewis, I really really really hope mediocrely sung adult-alternative doesn't become a trend coming into the 2020s.
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Post by spicymapping on Oct 12, 2019 7:45:06 GMT -5
To be fair, Outnumbered is definitely better than Be Alright or SYL with more of a spark and better vocals, but if it crossing over starts a trend then I pray it doesn’t.
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Post by whales10268 on Oct 12, 2019 8:10:43 GMT -5
Okay it's not on the charts yet but I hope Outnumbered by Dermot Kennedy doesn't crossover. Between Lewis Capaldi and Dean Lewis, I really really really hope mediocrely sung adult-alternative doesn't become a trend coming into the 2020s. It’s too Bad mediocrely sung hip hop is already a successful trend. |
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Post by pcg4 on Oct 12, 2019 8:15:32 GMT -5
QUESTION: • Mariah Carey has 18 Hot 100 number ones. • Rihanna has 14 Hot 100 number ones. Does Rihanna still stand a chance in tying/surpassing Mariah Carey sometime soon, overall? What does everybody think? (I just having this conversation on another forum). #R9 will definitely give her a 15th number one, and possibly her 16th depending on how successful the era, is but, of course, that’s not guaranteed. Also, with how slow Rihanna has been releasing singles since 2016, and with how indecisive single success is in the streaming era (for the most part) I’m not sure. Personally, I’d love to see Rihanna tie The Beatles - she’s 6 number ones away. That would be....... 😫😭🤯. Preety sure she'll get one more at least, but four? That's hard to predict, although i would say that she won't because music doesen't look like her main interest anymore. Don't forget also that Mariah could get her 19th #1 this christmas, so Rihanna would need five more number ones. |
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Post by kierz7 on Oct 12, 2019 8:54:21 GMT -5
QUESTION: • Mariah Carey has 18 Hot 100 number ones. • Rihanna has 14 Hot 100 number ones. Does Rihanna still stand a chance in tying/surpassing Mariah Carey sometime soon, overall? What does everybody think? (I just having this conversation on another forum). #R9 will definitely give her a 15th number one, and possibly her 16th depending on how successful the era, is but, of course, that’s not guaranteed. Also, with how slow Rihanna has been releasing singles since 2016, and with how indecisive single success is in the streaming era (for the most part) I’m not sure. Personally, I’d love to see Rihanna tie The Beatles - she’s 6 number ones away. That would be....... 😫😭🤯. Preety sure she'll get one more at least, but four? That's hard to predict, although i would say that she won't because music doesen't look like her main interest anymore. Don't forget also that Mariah could get her 19th #1 this christmas, so Rihanna would need five more number ones. Even if Mariah Carey scores her 19th number one this year, Rihanna could still score her 15th number one before or after that happens, and possibly another, which would still keep in a close race of tying/surpassing Carey. It’s not impossible (AT ALL) given how Rihanna is to Mariah Carey/The Beatles, but it all depends on the trajectory in which Rihanna releases singles from 2020 onward and if they’re well received at radio/streaming. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Oct 12, 2019 9:16:17 GMT -5
Okay it's not on the charts yet but I hope Outnumbered by Dermot Kennedy doesn't crossover. Between Lewis Capaldi and Dean Lewis, I really really really hope mediocrely sung adult-alternative doesn't become a trend coming into the 2020s. I wouldn’t mind it as a trend but don’t see it happening. Though it’s a genre that women tend to do better in so maybe they can lead it this time. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Oct 12, 2019 9:36:18 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2019/10/12
1(=) Lizzo - Truth Hurts 157.71(-0.13)
2(=) Shawn Mendes & Camila Cabello - Señorita 152.73(-0.63)
3(=) Lewis Capaldi - Someone You Loved 134.73(+1.19)
4(=) Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care 117.37(-0.72)
5(=) Khalid - Talk 96.42(-0.68)
6(=) Jonas Brothers - Sucker 95.49(-0.45)
7(=) Chris Brown - No Guidance (feat. Drake) 90.44(+0.52)
8(+1) Ed Sheeran - Beautiful People (feat. Khalid) 80.49(+1.13)
9(-1) Post Malone - Goodbyes (feat. Young Thug) 80.24(-0.24)
10(=) Billie Eilish - bad guy 78.70(-0.25)
11(=) Jonas Brothers - Only Human 78.64(+0.90)
12(=) Post Malone - Circles 75.62(+1.74) 15(=) Matt Stell - Prayed for You 62.81(+1.22) 16(=) Chris Janson - Good Vibes 55.54(+0.90)
25(+1) Lil Tecca - Ransom 47.24(+0.85)
28(+2) Maroon 5 - Memories 44.17(+1.63)
36(+3) Lizzo - Good as Hell 37.83(+1.76)
37(+1) NF - Time 37.05(+0.90)
44(+3) Luke Combs - Even Though I'm Leaving 34.88(+0.95) 49(+8) Chris Brown - Heat (feat. Gunna) 33.48(+1.00)
50(+6) Camila Cabello - Liar 33.39(+0.81)
61(=) Halsey - Graveyard 30.59(+0.74)
62(+1) DaBaby - Baby Sitter (feat. Offset) 29.96(+0.78) -(-) Summer Walker & Bryson Tiller - Playing Games (Extended Version) 5.78(+1.09)
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Post by iggyamo on Oct 12, 2019 11:27:52 GMT -5
Okay it's not on the charts yet but I hope Outnumbered by Dermot Kennedy doesn't crossover. Between Lewis Capaldi and Dean Lewis, I really really really hope mediocrely sung adult-alternative doesn't become a trend coming into the 2020s. I wouldn’t mind it as a trend but don’t see it happening. Though it’s a genre that women tend to do better in so maybe they can lead it this time. I really wish we got grime or their house revival instead, I would’ve loved to see Vossi Bop or Piece of Your Heart on the charts. |
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Post by 85la on Oct 12, 2019 20:49:08 GMT -5
I forgot about Home because it's not the typical Idol coronation ballad plus the latter seasons of Idol just felt less remarkable than the first 8 which felt like such a big deal back then. The Time of My Life was big in my country too but I just don't hear it anymore unlike A Moment Like This and I Believe which are really popular in singing contests here and karaoke lol Of course it completely depends on what country you live in. I'm kind of curious to know what country you live in actually, because while I Believe was absolutely not a big hit at all in the U.S., at least in terms of airplay, I did a quick chart search and it didn't seem to be big anywhere else. |
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Post by rimetm on Oct 12, 2019 21:11:09 GMT -5
 My predictions for the week. I'm factoring in an estimate of what the bundles could've given HitR, if I give it my non-bundle estimate (8k sales), it's still at a safe 36.9k chart points. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Oct 12, 2019 21:52:43 GMT -5
Lil Nas X's consecutive weeks at #1 in US YT Top Songs is finally over.
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Post by aussie1 on Oct 13, 2019 1:37:19 GMT -5
Looks like radio is going to hold on to I don't care like they did with Shape of you and Perfect.  |
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Post by higilo on Oct 13, 2019 2:33:31 GMT -5
Bandit at #11 would be great for Juice WRLD |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2019 4:38:48 GMT -5
Bandit at #11 would be great for Juice WRLD But 10 would be even better 😏 |
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Post by forg on Oct 13, 2019 7:27:54 GMT -5
I forgot about Home because it's not the typical Idol coronation ballad plus the latter seasons of Idol just felt less remarkable than the first 8 which felt like such a big deal back then. The Time of My Life was big in my country too but I just don't hear it anymore unlike A Moment Like This and I Believe which are really popular in singing contests here and karaoke lol Of course it completely depends on what country you live in. I'm kind of curious to know what country you live in actually, because while I Believe was absolutely not a big hit at all in the U.S., at least in terms of airplay, I did a quick chart search and it didn't seem to be big anywhere else. Philippines, we are big Singing Contest country lol and I Believe is such a staple. |
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Oct 13, 2019 7:48:50 GMT -5
The point was never that it was a big hit. It was that it’s gained a new life in terms of impact. It’s often covered in singing competitions or used at graduations, etc.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Oct 13, 2019 9:04:05 GMT -5
Does anyone think Rhythm + Flow could impact the charts the same way American Idol and The Voice have in the past? Like is it possible a few rappers could get big off of it?
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Oct 13, 2019 9:54:39 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2019/10/13
1(=) Lizzo - Truth Hurts 157.29(-0.42)
2(=) Shawn Mendes & Camila Cabello - Señorita 152.23(-0.50) 3(=) Lewis Capaldi - Someone You Loved 135.67(+0.94)
4(=) Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care 116.34(-1.03)
5(=) Khalid - Talk 95.32(-1.10)
6(=) Jonas Brothers - Sucker 94.64(-0.84)
7(=) Chris Brown - No Guidance (feat. Drake) 91.02(+0.58)
8(=) Ed Sheeran - Beautiful People (feat. Khalid) 81.48(+0.98)
9(=) Post Malone - Goodbyes (feat. Young Thug) 79.44(-0.80)
10(+1) Jonas Brothers - Only Human 79.00(+0.36)
12(=) Post Malone - Circles 77.38(+1.76) 16(=) Chris Janson - Good Vibes 56.43(+0.88) 24(=) Wale - On Chill (feat. Jeremih) 48.43(+0.77) 27(+1) Maroon 5 - Memories 45.27(+1.09)
33(+3) Lizzo - Good as Hell 39.54(+1.71)
78(+7) Dan + Shay & Justin Bieber - 10,000 Hours 21.55(+2.06)
-(-) Sam Hunt - Kinfolks 14.25(+1.58)
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Post by Choco on Oct 13, 2019 10:01:09 GMT -5
Does anyone think Rhythm + Flow could impact the charts the same way American Idol and The Voice have in the past? Like is it possible a few rappers could get big off of it? Streaming is a weird format for singing shows. A lot of people will not even find the show until it's over, so the chart impact will be spread out over multiple weeks instead of a single one like with American Idol and the like... Unless someone really breaks out big. But I feel like America is done with singing show stars for a while. The last one to get a hit was Phillip Phillips IIRC. Or technically the 5H ladies... |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Oct 13, 2019 10:08:45 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2019/10/13
1(=) Lizzo - Truth Hurts 157.29(-0.42)
2(=) Shawn Mendes & Camila Cabello - Señorita 152.23(-0.50) 3(=) Lewis Capaldi - Someone You Loved 135.67(+0.94)
4(=) Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care 116.34(-1.03)
5(=) Khalid - Talk 95.32(-1.10)
6(=) Jonas Brothers - Sucker 94.64(-0.84)
7(=) Chris Brown - No Guidance (feat. Drake) 91.02(+0.58)
8(=) Ed Sheeran - Beautiful People (feat. Khalid) 81.48(+0.98)
9(=) Post Malone - Goodbyes (feat. Young Thug) 79.44(-0.80)
10(+1) Jonas Brothers - Only Human 79.00(+0.36)
12(=) Post Malone - Circles 77.38(+1.76) 16(=) Chris Janson - Good Vibes 56.43(+0.88) 24(=) Wale - On Chill (feat. Jeremih) 48.43(+0.77) 27(+1) Maroon 5 - Memories 45.27(+1.09)
33(+3) Lizzo - Good as Hell 39.54(+1.71)
78(+7) Dan + Shay & Justin Bieber - 10,000 Hours 21.55(+2.06)
-(-) Sam Hunt - Kinfolks 14.25(+1.58)
I'm amazed that No Guidance is still increasing. 10K Hours is primed to be a radio smash. Lizzo has another hit on her hands with Good As Hell. Same with Wale with On Chill, Post Malone with Circles and Maroon 5 with Memories. Good updates today. |
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Post by violentdreams on Oct 13, 2019 10:12:30 GMT -5
Looks like I was getting ahead of myself by saying Circles wouldn't have the same longevity as the BB&B singles. It's looking to be the Better Now of this album cycle (with Sunflower being the Rockstar and Wow. being the Psycho). Goodbyes is a bit of an outlier, but it's still a respectably sized hit even if it didn't reach quite the same heights as Post's other singles.
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Post by Kris on Oct 13, 2019 10:18:19 GMT -5
Great update for Sam Hunt, glad to see radio sees this more friendly than Downtown's Dead
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Post by Soulsista on Oct 13, 2019 10:53:27 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 60, 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:
October 12, 1959 (For the week ending October 17)
01 01 Mack The Knife - Bobby Darin (2nd of 9 weeks at #1)
02 02 Put Your Head On My Shoulder - Paul Anka
03 08 Mr. Blue - The Fleetwoods
04 03 Sleep Walk - Santo & Johnny
05 04 'Til I Kissed You - The Everly Brothers
06 06 Teen Beat - Sandy Nelson
07 10 Poison Ivy - The Coasters
08 05 The Three Bells - The Browns
09 12 Just Ask Your Heart - Frankie Avalon
10 14 Lonely Street - Andy Williams
October 17, 1964
01 02 Do Wah Diddy Diddy - Manfred Mann (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 03 Dancing In The Street - Martha & The Vandellas
03 01 Oh, Pretty Woman - Roy Orbison
04 06 We'll Sing In The Sunshine - Gale Garnett
05 09 Last Kiss - Frank J. Wilson
06 05 Remember (Walkin' In The Sand) - The Shangri-Las
07 10 A Summer Song - Chad Stewart & Jeremy Clyde
08 07 It Hurts To Be In Love - Gene Pitney
09 11 When I Grow Up (To Be a Man) - The Beach Boys
10 14 Let It Be Me - Betty Everett & Jerry Butler
October 18, 1969
01 04 I Can't Get Next To You - The Temptations (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 05 Hot Fun In The Summertime - Sly & The Family Stone
03 01 Sugar, Sugar - The Archies
04 02 Jean - Oliver
05 03 Little Woman - Bobby Sherman
06 11 Suspicious Minds - Elvis Presley
07 12 That's The Way Love Is - Marvin Gaye
08 25 Wedding Bell Blues - The 5th Dimension
09 07 Easy To Be Hard - Three Dog Night
10 19 Tracy - The Cuff Links
20 NE Something - The Beatles
23 NE Come Together - The Beatles
October 19, 1974
01 02 Nothing From Nothing - Billy Preston (1st and only week at #1)
02 03 Then Came You - Dionne Warwick & The Spinners
03 05 You Haven't Done Nothin' - Stevie Wonder
04 01 I Honestly Love You - Olivia Newton-John
05 15 Jazzman - Carole King
06 07 The Bitch Is Back - Elton John
07 08 Never My Love - Blue Swede
08 10 Can't Get Enough - Bad Company
09 11 Steppin' Out - Tony Orlando & Dawn
10 17 Love Me For a Reason - The Osmonds
October 20, 1979
01 02 Rise - Herb Alpert (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 01 Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough - Michael Jackson
03 07 Pop Muzik - M
04 04 Sail On - The Commodores
05 06 I'll Never Love This Way Again - Dionne Warwick
06 08 Dim All The Lights - Donna Summer
07 03 Sad Eyes - Robert John
08 05 My Sharona - The Knack
09 15 Heartache Tonight - The Eagles
10 38 Still - The Commodores
15 40 Tusk - Fleetwood Mac
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