Billboard Hot 100 2020s Decade End List & All Time Lists

[failstoner]

Aug 13, 2020 2:53:25 GMT -5 plankton5165 said:

Are you sure that in 2020, they won't change the multiplier to x0.9?

Not one song that peaked in 2020 has spent more than 25 weeks in the top 10 of the Hot 100.

The may change the multiplier, but what does that have to with songs spending more weeks in the top 10? Circles had 38 weeks and Blinding Lights has 25 weeks and peaked in 2020 and these kind of longevity aren't very common. 

[thegreatdivine]

Aug 13, 2020 3:05:09 GMT -5 failstoner said:

Aug 13, 2020 2:53:25 GMT -5 plankton5165 said:

Are you sure that in 2020, they won't change the multiplier to x0.9?

Not one song that peaked in 2020 has spent more than 25 weeks in the top 10 of the Hot 100.

The may change the multiplier, but what does that have to with songs spending more weeks in the top 10? Circles had 38 weeks and Blinding Lights has 25 weeks and peaked in 2020 and these kind of longevity aren't very common. 

*39 weeks.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^Not only in the top 10, but in general more songs are reaching 40+ weeks in the Hot 100.

[plankton5165]

Aug 13, 2020 3:05:09 GMT -5 failstoner said:

Aug 13, 2020 2:53:25 GMT -5 plankton5165 said:

Are you sure that in 2020, they won't change the multiplier to x0.9?

Not one song that peaked in 2020 has spent more than 25 weeks in the top 10 of the Hot 100.

The may change the multiplier, but what does that have to with songs spending more weeks in the top 10? Circles had 38 weeks and Blinding Lights has 25 weeks and peaked in 2020 and these kind of longevity aren't very common. 

Well, more songs have spent so much time in the top 10 in previous years.

7 songs that peaked in 2019 spent more than 25 weeks in the top 10, and four of them that peaked in 2018 did.

^Not only in the top 10, but in general more songs are reaching 40+ weeks in the Hot 100.

In the 1960s, a song that peaked at #1 generally spent like 12 weeks on chart and x1.7 multipliers were used on them, while in 1985-1991, where songs had a x2 multiplier, a lot of songs with more than 20 weeks on the chart would enter year-ends at ranks with numbers more than 10x of their peak positions. (e.g. a song peaking at #5 and failing to crack the top 50 in a year-end even though it had spent more than 20 weeks on the chart.) While songs with 3 weeks at peak and total weeks that aren't bad would barely enter the year-end with 10 songs times the number of their peak position.

[atg]

It’s probably confirmed that circles, the box and blinding lights will no doubt make the decade end list but what about the latter 2 making the all time? what are the chances

[felle]

Aug 14, 2020 21:08:22 GMT -5 atg said:

It’s probably confirmed that circles, the box and blinding lights will no doubt make the decade end list but what about the latter 2 making the all time? what are the chances

I think its basically 50/50 for the box, blinding lights will most likely make it

[failstoner]

Aug 14, 2020 21:08:22 GMT -5 atg said:

It’s probably confirmed that circles, the box and blinding lights will no doubt make the decade end list but what about the latter 2 making the all time? what are the chances

It's going to be a tough and long run for The Box, but for Blinding Lights it should easily enter the GOAT 100 and likely the upper half the chart as well. It's run so far is better than Circles so it may place higher? who knows

[felle]

Could Circles reach the top 10 in the GOAT list?

[rockgolf]

Aug 16, 2020 11:31:16 GMT -5 felle said:

Could Circles reach the top 10 in the GOAT list?

Depends on what multiplier Billboard is using these days.

I've got it at #20, steady from last week, at 1,219,440 points. To get to the top ten it would need +1,305,184 points, so at least 85,745 more points. This week it earned 7,680 points, so to get to the top ten all-time it would have to stay at #16 or higher for at least another 12 weeks. That won't happen.

This assumes the 0.80 multiplier value applied to the song's run is accurate. If it's actually 0.85, it's got almost 1.3 million points and easily within shooting distance.

[rockgolf]

Here's how songs on this week's Hot 100 would appear on a Billboard top 10,000 list, for the week of Aug 15, 2020

Last Week	This Week	Chg	Track	Artist	Total Pts
20	20	0	Circles	Post Malone	1,219,440
115	113	2	The Box	Roddy Ricch	958,880
268	227	41	Blinding Lights	The Weeknd	851,392
891	861	30	Don't Start Now	Dua Lipa	641,920
1387	1221	166	ROCKSTAR [DaBaby]	DaBaby and Roddy Ricch	567,040
1386	1367	19	Life Is Good	Future and Drake	539,280
1621	1594	27	Say So	Doja Cat featuring Nicki Minaj	503,632
1787	1752	35	Intentions	Justin Bieber and Quavo	484,400
1902	1857	45	Savage	Megan Thee Stallion featuring Beyonce	471,872
2840	2751	89	Adore You	Harry Styles	367,120
3084	3069	15	Toosie Slide	Drake	333,008
3555	3298	257	Roses (Imanbek Remix)	SAINt JHN	309,360
3987	3664	323	WHATS POPPIN	Jack Harlow , Tory Lanez & Lil Wayne	271,392
4008	3963	45	The Bones	Maren Morris	243,426
4466	4193	273	Blueberry Faygo	Lil Mosey	220,784
5609	4616	993	Watermelon Sugar	Harry Styles	188,608
4958	4911	47	Falling	Trevor Daniel	170,960
5138	5047	91	Rain On Me	Lady Gaga & Ariana Grande	164,640
5411	5247	164	I Hope	Gabby Barrett	155,744
7128	6984	144	Chasin' You	Morgan Wallen	102,672
7192	7155	37	Stuck With U	Ariana Grande and Justin Bieber	98,896
7779	7324	455	Break My Heart	Dua Lipa	95,600
7981	7715	266	death bed	Powfu and Beabadoobee	88,608
8629	8001	628	Before You Go	Lewis Capaldi	82,768
9777	8065	1712	Go Crazy	Chris Brown and Young Thug	81,664
8273	8070	203	The Bigger Picture	Lil Baby	81,600
11042	8670	2372	Savage Love (Laxed - Siren Beat)	Jawsh 365 and Jason DeRulo	73,024
9042	8760	282	We Paid	Lil Baby and 42 Dugg	71,792
9599	8972	627	Come & Go	Juice WRLD and Marshmallo	68,800
9752	9452	300	Hard To Forget	Sam Hunt	63,184
10006	9643	363	Party Girl	Staysolidrocky	61,024

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[plankton5165]

Even if The Box makes the all-time list at one point, it's probably going to be for a very short time.

I don't think it will do it, I think the odds is actually less than 10%.

[atg]

Aug 16, 2020 19:04:52 GMT -5 plankton5165 said:

Even if The Box makes the all-time list at one point, it's probably going to be for a very short time.

I don't think it will do it, I think the odds is actually less than 10%.

So kinda like post malone’s rockstar

Imagine if the dababy one made it and higher than post that would be funny

[inverse]

Is there a place for the point values of the greatest of all time Hot 100 Artists?

[tanooki]

Aug 13, 2020 2:53:25 GMT -5 plankton5165 said:

Are you sure that in 2020, they won't change the multiplier to x0.9?

Not one song that peaked in 2020 has spent more than 25 weeks in the top 10 of the Hot 100.

If they're smart about it, 0.8 seems to be enough. Blinding Lights may be the only 2020 song to git the GOAT 100 after literally 5 songs from 2019

[tanooki]

Week 38/521 (7.3%)

LW TW ARTIST SONG POINTS
~ALL-TIME LIST CUTOFF: 971,432~
1 1 Roddy Ricch - The Box 962,000
3 2 The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 881,792
2 3 Post Malone - Circles 873,280
~2010'S CUTOFF: 662,382~
4 4 Dua Lipa - Don't Start Now 637,120
6 5 DaBaby ft. Roddy Ricch - ROCKSTAR 599,040
5 6 Future ft. Drake - Life Is Good 575,280
7 7 Doja Cat - Say So 507,424
8 8 Maroon 5 - Memories 498,160
10 9 Justin Bieber ft. Quavo - Intentions 488,320
9 10 Lewis Capaldi - Someone You Loved 484,800

11 11 Arizona Zervas - ROXANNE 480,080
12 12 Megan Thee Stallion ft. Beyonce - Savage 479,552
13 13 Tones & I - Dance Monkey 376,880
14 14 Harry Styles - Adore You 375,520
16 15 SAINt JHN - Roses (Imanbek Remix) 335,280
15 16 Drake - Toosie Slide 334,224
19 17 Jack Harlow ft. DaBaby, Tory Lanez, Lil Wayne - WHATS POPPIN 300,192
17 18 Dan + Shay, Justin Bieber - 10,000 Hours 297,440
18 19 Billie Eilish - everything I wanted 287,680
20 20 Lizzo - Good As Hell 234,960

21 21 Maren Morris - The Bones 233,808
22 22 Lil Mosey - Blueberry Faygo 227,504
23 23 Selena Gomez - Lose You to Love Me 216,400
25 24 Harry Styles - Watermelon Sugar 214,208
24 25 The Weeknd - Heartless 213,120
26 26 Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You 181,440
27 27 Trevor Daniel - Falling 170,080
29 28 Lady Gaga, Ariana Grande - Rain On Me 168,160
28 29 Mustard, Roddy Ricch - Ballin' 165,360
31 30 Gabby Barret - I Hope 165,104

30 31 blackbear - hot girl bummer 156,880
32 32 DaBaby - BOP 145,600
33 33 Camila Cabello ft. DaBaby - My Oh My 137,264
34 34 Roddy Ricch ft. Mustard - High Fashion 126,560
35 35 Chris Brown ft. Drake - No Guidance 125,360
36 36 Brenda Lee - Rockin Around the Christmas Tree 122,000
37 37 Justin Bieber - Yummy 108,048
38 38 THE SCOTTS, Travis Scott, Kid Cudi - THE SCOTTS 106,240
39 39 Morgan Wallen - Chasin You 106,048
43 40 Dua Lipa - Break My Heart 104,240

50 41 Chris Brown, Young Thug - Go Crazy 103,744
49 42 Lewis Capaldi - Before You Go 103,584
40 43 Shawn Mendes, Camila Cabello - Senorita 100,800
41 44 Travis Scott - HIGHEST IN THE ROOM 100,560
42 45 Ariana Grande, Justin Bieber - stuck with u 99,728
55 46 Jawsh 685, Jason Derulo - Savage Love 97,664
45 47 Powfu ft. beabadoobee - death bed 93,728
44 48 Lil Baby - Woah 89,600
46 49 Eminem ft. Juice WRLD - Godzilla 86,208
47 50 Burl Ives - A Holly Jolly Christmas 85,120


GOAT List:
20 18 Post Malone - Circles 1,227,440
113 110 Roddy Ricch - The Box 962,000
226 190 The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 881,792
859 829 Dua Lipa - Don't Start Now 646,880

[plankton5165]

Does anyone realize the two #101 singles of the 2000s and 2010s are one peak year apart?

[rockgolf]

Estimated positions for songs that are currently on this week's Hot 100 as to where they would be if Billboard did an all-time top 10,000 list for the chart week of Aug 22, 2020.

Last Week	This Week	Chg	Track	Artist	Total Pts
20	18	2	Circles	Post Malone	1,227,440
113	110	3	The Box	Roddy Ricch	961,920
227	190	37	Blinding Lights	The Weeknd	881,792
861	830	31	Don't Start Now	Dua Lipa	646,880
1221	1064	157	ROCKSTAR [DaBaby]	DaBaby and Roddy Ricch	599,040
1367	1346	21	Life Is Good	Future and Drake	543,280
1594	1569	25	Say So	Doja Cat featuring Nicki Minaj	507,392
1752	1720	32	Intentions	Justin Bieber and Quavo	488,320
1857	1793	64	Savage	Megan Thee Stallion featuring Beyonce	479,552
2751	2663	88	Adore You	Harry Styles	375,440
3298	3049	249	Roses (Imanbek Remix)	SAINt JHN	335,280
3069	3060	9	Toosie Slide	Drake	334,224
3664	3391	273	WHATS POPPIN	Jack Harlow , Tory Lanez & Lil Wayne	300,192
3963	3913	50	The Bones	Maren Morris	247,906
4193	4124	69	Blueberry Faygo	Lil Mosey	227,504
4616	4261	355	Watermelon Sugar	Harry Styles	215,808
5047	4965	82	Rain On Me	Lady Gaga & Ariana Grande	168,160
5247	5041	206	I Hope	Gabby Barrett	165,024
6984	6842	142	Chasin' You	Morgan Wallen	106,032
7324	6914	410	Break My Heart	Dua Lipa	104,240
8065	6940	1125	Go Crazy	Chris Brown and Young Thug	103,744
8001	6947	1054	Before You Go	Lewis Capaldi	103,568
7155	7124	31	Stuck With U	Ariana Grande and Justin Bieber	99,728
8670	7219	1451	Savage Love (Laxed - Siren Beat)	Jawsh 365 and Jason DeRulo	97,664
7715	7435	280	death bed	Powfu and Beabadoobee	93,808
8070	7922	148	The Bigger Picture	Lil Baby	84,320
8972	8461	511	Come & Go	Juice WRLD and Marshmallo	75,840
8760	8478	282	We Paid	Lil Baby and 42 Dugg	75,632
9452	9203	249	Hard To Forget	Sam Hunt	66,144
9643	9305	338	Party Girl	Staysolidrocky	64,704
10543	9851	692	One Margarita	Luke Bryan	58,896

Circles climbs up 2 on the all-time list to #18, and The Box is closing in on the top 100 of all time. It needs about 10,000 more points to reach the top 100, which means 4 weeks or more in the top 50. It's currently at #42, and I don't think it's going to make it.

[iHype.]

To me, the point system's main flaw I'm beginning to notice is that it's too top 10 focused. Meaning longevity and chart runs outside of the top 10 just really mean nothing. It's an issue because today more than ever, most top 10 hits have notable chart runs outside top 10 and many songs that don't even go top 10 have insane chart runs.

The Bones has been charting 47 weeks, yet has notably lower points than songs like 'everything i wanted' which barely even did 30 weeks. Even once it does over 52 weeks it still won't have surpassed it at this point.

The point system also unintentionally gives moderates hits from pre-Soundscan much more points on average than post-Soundscan. Nearly every single top 10 back then had those identical chart runs similar to 99-82-56-32-18-10-8-7-5-4-9-20-32-68-94-OUT. So all of them have similar chart runs in the top 10 which again has the most weight. Now for 2020 in example, so many top 5/top 10 hits only spend 1-3 weeks there but then have large runs for months like 5-8-10-14-14-13-12-18-17-16-15-14-13-20-22-24-23-23-25-26-28-30-32-34-34-37-37-43-OUT.

The latter songs were still very huge, if not, bigger than the former songs but again, what matters is top 10 weeks.

[iHype.]

Also even a #1 like "Say So" which actually had a really decent chart run for a #1 today, has lower points than every single #1 hit from the 1980s.

Say So: 507,392
Smallest #1 of the 1980s (Dirty Diana): 543,756

Even "Life Is Good", an 8-week #2 has less points than the weakest #1 of the 1980s.

The formula is literally now at a point where either a song does massive on the all-time list after spending lots of weeks top 10 (Circles, Blinding Lights, The Box) or it just does absolutely terrible on the all-time list even it has a nice run (Savage, Say So, Life Is Good). There is no inbetween.

Billboard def has got to reevaulate the point system for today.

[plankton5165]

Dirty Diana basically has spent 2 weeks at #1 because of the x2 multiplier. It's basically spent 28 weeks on the chart.

I agree that weeks in the top 10 are made important.

The Twist has basically spent 50 weeks in the top 10 because of its multiplier. Had the chart runs from different years counted as individual chart runs for individual songs, reaching #1 song of all time could've been pretty easy to achieve.

[plankton5165]

The original 1990s decade-end was focused on weeks at #1.

You'll see My All and Lately, songs with insignificant chart runs for #1s, there, another one is I'll Be There, it might've referred to the decade-end list regardless of its chart run for a #1.

While you'll see Another Night at #51, Truly Madly Deeply at #63, and You Were Meant For Me/Foolish Games at #67.

You will not even see the #1 song of 1990.

Also, One Sweet Day is #1 on the original decade-end.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^That chart has been completely forgotten by Billboard. They don't even acknowledged that such a chart existed.

[tanooki]

Week 39/521 (7.5%)

LW TW ARTIST SONG POINTS
~ALL-TIME LIST CUTOFF: 971,432~
1 1 Roddy Ricch - The Box 964,640
2 2 The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 910,592
3 3 Post Malone - Circles 880,960
~2010'S CUTOFF: 662,382~
4 4 Dua Lipa - Don't Start Now 641,840
5 5 DaBaby ft. Roddy Ricch - ROCKSTAR 629,440
6 6 Future ft. Drake - Life Is Good 579,200
7 7 Doja Cat - Say So 510,384
8 8 Maroon 5 - Memories 498,160
9 9 Justin Bieber ft. Quavo - Intentions 491,760
12 10 Megan Thee Stallion ft. Beyonce - Savage 485,952

10 11 Lewis Capaldi - Someone You Loved 484,800
11 12 Arizona Zervas - ROXANNE 480,080
14 13 Harry Styles - Adore You 383,520
13 14 Tones & I - Dance Monkey 376,880
15 15 SAINt JHN - Roses (Imanbek Remix) 358,640
16 16 Drake - Toosie Slide 335,280
17 17 Jack Harlow ft. DaBaby, Tory Lanez, Lil Wayne - WHATS POPPIN 327,392
18 18 Dan + Shay, Justin Bieber - 10,000 Hours 297,440
19 19 Billie Eilish - everything I wanted 287,680
24 20 Harry Styles - Watermelon Sugar 238,848

21 21 Maren Morris - The Bones 238,048
20 22 Lizzo - Good As Hell 234,960
22 23 Lil Mosey - Blueberry Faygo 232,944
23 24 Selena Gomez - Lose You to Love Me 216,400
25 25 The Weeknd - Heartless 213,120
30 26 Gabby Barret - I Hope 185,904
26 27 Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You 181,440
28 28 Lady Gaga, Ariana Grande - Rain On Me 171,040
27 29 Trevor Daniel - Falling 170,080
29 30 Mustard, Roddy Ricch - Ballin' 165,360

31 31 blackbear - hot girl bummer 156,880
32 32 DaBaby - BOP 145,600
33 33 Camila Cabello ft. DaBaby - My Oh My 137,264
34 34 Roddy Ricch ft. Mustard - High Fashion 126,560
35 35 Chris Brown ft. Drake - No Guidance 125,360
36 36 Brenda Lee - Rockin Around the Christmas Tree 122,000
46 37 Jawsh 685, Jason Derulo - Savage Love 119,744
41 38 Chris Brown, Young Thug - Go Crazy 113,024
40 39 Dua Lipa - Break My Heart 112,880
42 40 Lewis Capaldi - Before You Go 112,544

39 41 Morgan Wallen - Chasin You 109,568
37 42 Justin Bieber - Yummy 108,048
38 43 THE SCOTTS, Travis Scott, Kid Cudi - THE SCOTTS 106,240
43 44 Shawn Mendes, Camila Cabello - Senorita 100,800
44 45 Travis Scott - HIGHEST IN THE ROOM 100,560
45 46 Ariana Grande, Justin Bieber - stuck with u 100,368
47 47 Powfu ft. beabadoobee - death bed 99,408
85 48 Cardi B, Megan Thee Stallion - WAP 96,000
48 49 Lil Baby - Woah 89,600
52 50 Lil Baby - The Bigger Picture 86,640

Greatest of All Time List:
18. Circles (=)
108. The Box (+2)
156. Blinding Lights (+34)
800. Don't Start Now (+29)
914. Rockstar (+150)

[rockgolf]

Top 10,000 updates as of the Aug 29, 2020 chart.

Last Week	This Week	Chg	Track	Artist	Total Pts
18	18	0	Circles	Post Malone	1,235,120
110	108	2	The Box	Roddy Ricch	964,560
190	157	33	Blinding Lights	The Weeknd	910,592
830	802	28	Don't Start Now	Dua Lipa	651,600
1064	916	148	ROCKSTAR [DaBaby]	DaBaby and Roddy Ricch	629,440
1346	1327	19	Life Is Good	Future and Drake	547,200
1569	1552	17	Say So	Doja Cat featuring Nicki Minaj	510,352
1720	1693	27	Intentions	Justin Bieber and Quavo	491,760
1793	1741	52	Savage	Megan Thee Stallion featuring Beyonce	485,952
2663	2591	72	Adore You	Harry Styles	383,440
3049	2837	212	Roses (Imanbek Remix)	SAINt JHN	358,640
3060	3050	10	Toosie Slide	Drake	335,280
3391	3132	259	WHATS POPPIN	Jack Harlow , Tory Lanez & Lil Wayne	327,392
3913	3871	42	The Bones	Maren Morris	252,146
4261	3996	265	Watermelon Sugar	Harry Styles	240,448
4124	4073	51	Blueberry Faygo	Lil Mosey	232,944
5041	4661	380	I Hope	Gabby Barrett	185,824
4965	4909	56	Rain On Me	Lady Gaga & Ariana Grande	171,040
7219	6273	946	Savage Love (Laxed - Siren Beat)	Jawsh 365 and Jason DeRulo	119,744
6940	6547	393	Go Crazy	Chris Brown and Young Thug	113,024
6914	6556	358	Break My Heart	Dua Lipa	112,880
6947	6576	371	Before You Go	Lewis Capaldi	112,528
6842	6700	142	Chasin' You	Morgan Wallen	109,552
7124	7088	36	Stuck With U	Ariana Grande and Justin Bieber	100,368
7435	7132	303	death bed	Powfu and Beabadoobee	99,488
11093	7303	3790	WAP	Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion	96,000
7922	7807	115	The Bigger Picture	Lil Baby	86,640
8461	8001	460	Come & Go	Juice WRLD and Marshmallo	82,880
8478	8250	228	We Paid	Lil Baby and 42 Dugg	78,992
9305	9046	259	Party Girl	Staysolidrocky	67,904
9851	9483	368	One Margarita	Luke Bryan	62,896
10613	9799	814	For The Night	Pop Smoke	59,440
10694	9985	709	Popstar	DJ Khaled and Drake	57,600

Circles holds although it gains points. It's still about 14,000 points behind #17. That's another 2 weeks at #16 or higher.

The Box is at #47 on the Hot 100 this week and this could be its last week on the chart. The likelihood of reaching the all-time top 100 is diminished.

But Blinding Lights is probably on its way to the all-time top 50. The first several weeks of its history certainly didn't encourage that thinking. It entered at #11 then dropped to #52, then #63, and finally #72 before starting to climb again. Unfortunately those first 4 weeks still count toward the 52-week max, replacing 4 weeks after it eventually goes recurrent. Unless it's still in the top 25 after 56 weeks, that'll cost it points.

WAP's already in the top 10000, and has more points than TROLLZ's entire run.

[plankton5165]

The Box succeeding in cracking the all-time top 100 is like Charles Green succeeding in a fight for additional months and weeks of his life.

[plankton5165]

Did anyone think Blinding Lights would be the #1 song of 2020 during the song's second, third, and fourth weeks of its chart run?

[nathanalbright]

Angry Grampa, you mean? I had to look that one up.

[rockgolf]

A quiet week in the Billboard Top 10,000, where the two biggest all-time hits on the current Hot 100 gain points but not enough to move up even a single spot. For the week of Sep 5, 2020:

Last Week	This Week	Chg	Track	Artist	Total Pts
18	18	0	Circles	Post Malone	1,242,800
108	108	0	The Box	Roddy Ricch	967,120
157	131	26	Blinding Lights	The Weeknd	937,792
916	763	153	ROCKSTAR [DaBaby]	DaBaby and Roddy Ricch	658,240
802	771	31	Don't Start Now	Dua Lipa	656,320
1168	1149	19	Life Is Good	Future and Drake	582,800
1553	1531	22	Say So	Doja Cat featuring Nicki Minaj	512,992
1694	1664	30	Intentions	Justin Bieber and Quavo	494,800
1741	1689	52	Savage	Megan Thee Stallion featuring Beyonce	492,352
2593	2528	65	Adore You	Harry Styles	390,800
2838	2610	228	Roses (Imanbek Remix)	SAINt JHN	382,000
3135	2876	259	WHATS POPPIN	Jack Harlow , Tory Lanez & Lil Wayne	353,312
3997	3726	271	Watermelon Sugar	Harry Styles	265,088
3871	3811	60	The Bones	Maren Morris	257,346
4073	4029	44	Blueberry Faygo	Lil Mosey	237,184
4661	4538	123	I Hope	Gabby Barrett	195,104
4909	4869	40	Rain On Me	Lady Gaga & Ariana Grande	173,040
6273	5567	706	Savage Love (Laxed - Siren Beat)	Jawsh 365 and Jason DeRulo	141,824
6576	5817	759	Before You Go	Lewis Capaldi	133,328
7303	5996	1307	WAP	Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion	128,000
6547	6209	338	Go Crazy	Chris Brown and Young Thug	121,664
6556	6227	329	Break My Heart	Dua Lipa	121,200
6700	6579	121	Chasin' You	Morgan Wallen	112,512
7132	6894	238	death bed	Powfu and Beabadoobee	104,928
7088	7064	24	Stuck With U	Ariana Grande and Justin Bieber	101,024
8001	7659	342	Come & Go	Juice WRLD and Marshmallo	89,600
7807	7716	91	The Bigger Picture	Lil Baby	88,720
8250	8056	194	We Paid	Lil Baby and 42 Dugg	81,872
9047	8877	170	Party Girl	Staysolidrocky	70,064
9799	9082	717	For The Night	Pop Smoke	67,440
9483	9186	297	One Margarita	Luke Bryan	66,336
9985	9401	584	Popstar	DJ Khaled and Drake	63,760
10113	9712	401	Wishing Well	Juice WRLD	60,320

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^So, 2 to 3 more weeks for Blinding Lights to surpass The Box?

[rockgolf]

Aug 20, 2020 16:26:42 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Also even a #1 like "Say So" which actually had a really decent chart run for a #1 today, has lower points than every single #1 hit from the 1980s.

Say So: 507,392
Smallest #1 of the 1980s (Dirty Diana): 543,756

Even "Life Is Good", an 8-week #2 has less points than the weakest #1 of the 1980s.

The formula is literally now at a point where either a song does massive on the all-time list after spending lots of weeks top 10 (Circles, Blinding Lights, The Box) or it just does absolutely terrible on the all-time list even it has a nice run (Savage, Say So, Life Is Good). There is no inbetween.

Billboard def has got to reevaulate the point system for today.

Problem is there's no really easy solution. The fact is that there is a much greater disparity between the, say #10 & #100 songs of the year today than there was 30 or 40 years ago. Not unlike the distribution of wealth, the "Ricch" are getting a much larger slice of the pie, while the poorer charting songs are getting a lot less. If you try to even the scenario out for one era, you end up over exaggerating a different era.

I've done analysis on the distribution of tracks by decade on the top songs from my list and here's how it breaks down:

Years	Top 100	Top 500	Top 1000	Top 5000	Top 10000
1950s	3.0%	3.6%	2.6%	2.7%	2.9%
1960s	9.0%	12.2%	13.2%	20.2%	21.7%
1970s	13.0%	18.2%	19.8%	20.5%	20.4%
1980s	18.0%	20.0%	23.2%	21.8%	20.1%
1990s	20.0%	16.6%	15.1%	14.0%	13.5%
2000s	12.0%	13.8%	13.1%	11.1%	11.6%
2010s	25.0%	15.2%	12.5%	9.2%	9.3%
2020s	0.0%	0.4%	0.5%	0.4%	0.5%

The Hot 100 began in August 1958, so the numbers for the 50's are small. And of course, the 2020's have barely begun in chart terms.

Ideally, each decade (except the 50's & 20's) should get about 15% of tracks over a reasonable number of songs. But fully a quarter of the all-time top 100 are from 2010 to 2019 - a significant oversampling, while the 1960s are underrepresented with only 9 tracks in the top 100.

Now when you extend that to the top 500, the number of tracks each decade is more reasonably even. The 1980s now becomes the most represented decade with 100 of the 500 songs but no one decade seems to be greatly over- or under-represented.

By the point where the top 10,000 songs are included, the rich/poor gap of the past couple of decades really shows. The 60's becomes the most represented decade (21.7%), the 2010's least (a mere 9.3%).

If the ideal was to get nearly the same number of tracks from each decade in the top 600, they did a pretty good job.