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Post by nathanalbright on Nov 18, 2019 16:31:25 GMT -5
Is this reentering earlier and earlier each year? Yes.
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Post by lazer on Nov 18, 2019 16:31:56 GMT -5
Apple Music to me, seems to have the userbase who is most invested in current music. There is always someone gaining momentum with an entire album. Apple Music listeners go out of their way to listen to entire albums by a slew of people every week. Spotify/Amazon Music/etc have those people who just passively listen to music. Playlist fueled, and album bombs are much more rare. Apple Music's audience is people who are actually engaged in pop culture and what is currently trending. The majority of the AM charts are urban. There are only a few pop, country, and rock songs on the charts. I doubt the numbers for Woah is bigger than Roxanne on Spotify.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 18, 2019 16:36:14 GMT -5
Here's the "All I Want..." info. The video-views total, as noted, accounts for around half of the streaming numbers. Audiowise, one outlet we don't look at is Amazon Music, which apparently was huge for holiday music last year. Does Amazon not have a chart? www.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/8544067/mariah-carey-all-i-want-for-christmas-is-you-hot-100-return-2019Mariah Carey's 'All I Want for Christmas Is You' Makes Its Earliest Annual Jingle Back to Hot 10011/18/2019 by Kevin Rutherford , Gary Trust Mariah Carey makes her now-annual return to the Billboard Hot 100 with "All I Want for Christmas Is You," which re-enters at No. 39 on the Nov. 23-dated chart. The 1994 carol concurrently returns to the Streaming Songs list, up 58% to 15.2 million U.S. streams in the tracking week ending Nov. 14, according to Nielsen Music. "Christmas" returns to both charts the earliest that it ever has since it began its yearly jaunt back onto the Hot 100 beginning in 2012 (see below for further timeline details about the song). Last year, it re-entered at No. 29, and at No. 30 on Streaming Songs, on charts dated Dec. 1, 2018. To compare, that week it drew 14.4 million streams, vs. this week's 15.2 million. The last time that "Christmas" scaled Streaming Songs, it dashed all the way to No. 1, crowning the Jan. 5-dated chart with 51.9 million streams in the tracking week ending Dec. 27 (which, of course, included Christmas Day). Aiding its total this season, a new video, featuring unreleased footage from the original 1994 clip's shoot, was released Nov. 1 (with 54% of the song's overall streams in the latest tracking week from video views). While Carey boasts the first holiday song on the Hot 100 and Streaming Songs this season, chances are she won't be alone for long. The closest Yuletide track below the 50-position Streaming Songs threshold, Wham!'s "Last Christmas," shows 8.2 million streams, up 83%, followed by Brenda Lee's "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree" (7.8 million, up 102%) and Burl Ives' "A Holly Jolly Christmas" (7.3 million, up 75%). The streaming total of "Christmas" accounts for the bulk of its Hot 100 activity, although the song also drew 9.5 in airplay audience (up 217%) and sold 4,000 (up 1%) in the tracking week. Its airplay, as well as its streaming and sales, should only continue to surge as adult radio stations, among other formats, continue to flip to all-holiday music. The song scored 43 and 17 plays on KOST Los Angeles and WLTW New York, respectively, in the week ending Nov. 17, with both stations among those that have, ahead of Thanksgiving, begun decorating their playlists with wall-to-wall holiday songs. Looking ahead to its expected radio run this season, "Christmas" has peaked with over 40 million in weekly all-format airplay audience in each of the past four holiday seasons. As for the history of Carey's holiday favorite on the Hot 100, it's every bit as tangled as Christmas tree lights just taken down from the attic. To recap, Carey's album Merry Christmas was originally released on Nov. 1, 1994 (and rereleased this Nov. 1, coincidentally, the 100th and 125th anniversaries of the first Billboard magazine, dated Nov. 1 1894). However, "Christmas," from the set, was not then made a commercially-available physical single (i.e., it was not available for purchase as a cassette or CD single on its own in stores) and, per rules at the time, was ineligible to chart on the Hot 100. Still, it became a big radio hit upon its arrival, reaching No. 12 on the Radio Songs chart that season. In December 1998, all cuts became eligible for the Hot 100 and beginning in 2012, coinciding with the addition of streaming to the chart's data feed, "Christmas" has hit the Hot 100 annually since, as, per current rules, songs released years earlier are eligible to debut or return if ranking in the top 50 and are gaining in multiple metrics with a significant reason for their resurgences. In December 2017, "Christmas" hit the Hot 100's top 10 at last, while last season it rose to No. 3, becoming the highest-charting holiday hit since "The Chipmunk Song," by The Chipmunks with David Seville, led for four weeks beginning Dec. 22, 1958.
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Post by sirskimask on Nov 18, 2019 16:41:25 GMT -5
Is this reentering earlier and earlier each year? In a few decades it'll be around all year lol
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Post by moonlite on Nov 18, 2019 16:42:29 GMT -5
Here's the "All I Want..." info. The video-views total, as noted, accounts for around half of the streaming numbers. Audiowise, one outlet we don't look at is Amazon Music, which apparently was huge for holiday music last year. Does Amazon not have a chart? Amazon does have a chart. music.amazon.com/popular/browsePanel/popularTracksAIWFCIY is already top 10 on Amazon right now and there are 8 Christmas songs top 30 there currently
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Post by twelvevinylrecords on Nov 18, 2019 16:47:33 GMT -5
I seriously think that it is going to go number one in about a month or so. God help us all
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 18, 2019 16:49:41 GMT -5
Thanks for that, moonlight.
The single may log seven weeks on the chart this season, which would leave 15 more weeks it could chart in future seasons (unless Billboard changes the 52-week rule for tracks once they drop below the top 25). But, if/once it hits No. 1, that's here nor there. :)
twelve- if it hits the top, it sure will have earned it.
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Post by nathanalbright on Nov 18, 2019 16:54:33 GMT -5
Thanks for that, moonlight. The single may log seven weeks on the chart this season, which would leave 15 more weeks it could chart in future seasons (unless Billboard changes the 52-week rule for tracks once they drop below the top 25). But, if/once it hits No. 1, that's here nor there. twelve- if it hits the top, it sure will have earned it. Once it hits 52 weeks, which doesn't look that many years off, it is still likely that the song will re-enter once it hits the top 25, which is likely to be often, perhaps still every year, unless there is another rule for recurrency that is enforced in the future to account for that.
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Post by Lukas on Nov 18, 2019 17:14:07 GMT -5
If AIWFCIY hits #1 this year, it will break Macarena's record for the longest climb to number one.
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Post by badrobot on Nov 18, 2019 17:15:58 GMT -5
Apple Music to me, seems to have the userbase who is most invested in current music. There is always someone gaining momentum with an entire album. Apple Music listeners go out of their way to listen to entire albums by a slew of people every week. Spotify/Amazon Music/etc have those people who just passively listen to music. Playlist fueled, and album bombs are much more rare. Apple Music's audience is people who are actually engaged in pop culture and what is currently trending. I don't know if we've ever seen any sort of breakdowns on this stuff, but I wouldn't be surprised if Apple Music has a considerably younger fanbase and that's why the listening patterns are different. It always seems as though hip-hop/rap/urban is driven mostly by younger listeners. My best guess: there may be an exceptionally high number of teenagers using AM because they're on their parents' Apple Music family plan. Before AM, that group probably listened to the free Spotify tier. I mean, if someone's parents can afford an iphone for their kid, they probably pay for apple music too. I do bristle at the suggestion that anyone who's not listening to every major hip-hop album repeatedly in full the week they come out is somehow "not engaged in pop culture" -- and I'm not even referring to myself here, because I know at this point I'm not some sort of pop culture pioneer. But i know a lot of people in their early 20s who are intensely interested in pop culture and just like different genres.
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Post by Mayman on Nov 18, 2019 17:17:28 GMT -5
I hate to be the person who brings up the YE chart, but could this mean AIWFCIY has a spot on this 2019 YE chart due to it's early return?
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Nov 18, 2019 17:19:53 GMT -5
Based on metrics info available, that's a surprising early re-entry for "All I Want..." Then again, as discussed earlier, streaming numbers are being distributed more among the lot, so that could be a factor. In any event, indeed, here we go. :) I think most were surprised when it was revealed that Alexa was such a big contributor to Xmas music last year. It makes sense and considering Alexa is the dominant home device in US (and increasing), it will only get bigger this season. We really don't get specific data for AMZ so that makes it a wildcard for predictions.
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Post by iHype. on Nov 18, 2019 17:31:39 GMT -5
Apple Music to me, seems to have the userbase who is most invested in current music. There is always someone gaining momentum with an entire album. Apple Music listeners go out of their way to listen to entire albums by a slew of people every week. Spotify/Amazon Music/etc have those people who just passively listen to music. Playlist fueled, and album bombs are much more rare. Apple Music's audience is people who are actually engaged in pop culture and what is currently trending. I don't know if we've ever seen any sort of breakdowns on this stuff, but I wouldn't be surprised if Apple Music has a considerably younger fanbase and that's why the listening patterns are different. It always seems as though hip-hop/rap/urban is driven mostly by younger listeners. My best guess: there may be an exceptionally high number of teenagers using AM because they're on their parents' Apple Music family plan. Before AM, that group probably listened to the free Spotify tier. I mean, if someone's parents can afford an iphone for their kid, they probably pay for apple music too. I do bristle at the suggestion that anyone who's not listening to every major hip-hop album repeatedly in full the week they come out is somehow "not engaged in pop culture" -- and I'm not even referring to myself here, because I know at this point I'm not some sort of pop culture pioneer. But i know a lot of people in their early 20s who are intensely interested in pop culture and just like different genres. People 18-30 listen to Hip-Hop too... its not just teenagers from their parents family account. Pop/Country/Rock/etc acts don't really have album bombs on US Spotify to signify their listens heavily keep up with current albums but just listen to different genres. Billie/Ariana/Ed/etc are the few that have album bombs on US Spotify... but they also did on Apple Music. Every artist that has an album bomb on US Spotify (little amount) tends to have one on Apple Music. However Apple Music has PLENTY more album bombs additionally that don't make impact on US Spotify.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Nov 18, 2019 17:35:33 GMT -5
Based on metrics info available, that's a surprising early re-entry for "All I Want..." Then again, as discussed earlier, streaming numbers are being distributed more among the lot, so that could be a factor. In any event, indeed, here we go. I think most were surprised when it was revealed that Alexa was such a big contributor to Xmas music last year. It makes sense and considering Alexa is the dominant home device in US (and increasing), it will only get bigger this season. We really don't get specific data for AMZ so that makes it a wildcard for predictions. The main reasons Alexa is more prevalent that Google Home is that it got a two-year head start on sales and it also works well for those with a Amazon Prime membership.
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Post by Kris on Nov 18, 2019 17:38:25 GMT -5
I hate to be the person who brings up the YE chart, but could this mean AIWFCIY has a spot on this 2019 YE chart due to it's early return? I don't think it has a chance, isn't this the last week of the chart year?
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Post by FindingC7osure on Nov 18, 2019 17:45:05 GMT -5
Mariah Carey's 'All I Want for Christmas Is You' Makes Its Earliest Annual Jingle Back to Hot 100... The 1994 carol concurrently returns to the Streaming Songs list, up 58% to 15.2 million U.S. streams in the tracking week ending Nov. 14, according to Nielsen Music. ... Aiding its total this season, a new video, featuring unreleased footage from the original 1994 clip's shoot, was released Nov. 1 ( with 54% of the song's overall streams in the latest tracking week from video views). Interesting... YT insights only had it at 2.8 million views this week... Queen of Christmas and UGC! (unless I'm missing something else)
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Post by badrobot on Nov 18, 2019 17:54:37 GMT -5
I don't know if we've ever seen any sort of breakdowns on this stuff, but I wouldn't be surprised if Apple Music has a considerably younger fanbase and that's why the listening patterns are different. It always seems as though hip-hop/rap/urban is driven mostly by younger listeners. My best guess: there may be an exceptionally high number of teenagers using AM because they're on their parents' Apple Music family plan. Before AM, that group probably listened to the free Spotify tier. I mean, if someone's parents can afford an iphone for their kid, they probably pay for apple music too. I do bristle at the suggestion that anyone who's not listening to every major hip-hop album repeatedly in full the week they come out is somehow "not engaged in pop culture" -- and I'm not even referring to myself here, because I know at this point I'm not some sort of pop culture pioneer. But i know a lot of people in their early 20s who are intensely interested in pop culture and just like different genres. People 18-30 listen to Hip-Hop too... its not just teenagers from their parents family account. Pop/Country/Rock/etc acts don't really have album bombs on US Spotify to signify their listens heavily keep up with current albums but just listen to different genres. Billie/Ariana/Ed/etc are the few that have album bombs on US Spotify... but they also did on Apple Music. Every artist that has an album bomb on US Spotify (little amount) tends to have one on Apple Music. However Apple Music has PLENTY more album bombs additionally that don't make impact on US Spotify. People stay on their parents’ cell family plans often well into their 20s, I’m sure the same happens with music plans. Also, 18-30 is still “younger listeners.”
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Nov 18, 2019 17:57:48 GMT -5
^^And Spotify had it for 2.43 million weekly streams.
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Post by gs on Nov 18, 2019 18:14:14 GMT -5
Top 10 Stats EstimateI'll update stats not announced by Billboard to be more accurate once each of the charts are posted by Tanooki.
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Post by reputainbow on Nov 18, 2019 18:42:02 GMT -5
"all i want for christmas is you" re-entering makes me really happy. i truly believe this is the year for it to reach the top spot. hopefully no one will pull a surprise release so that it's secured.
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Post by fhas on Nov 18, 2019 18:45:59 GMT -5
The Most-Streamed Song in the Country Is the Least-Streamed It's Been in 3 Years11/18/2019 by Kevin Rutherford For the first time in nearly three years, the most-streamed song in the United States earned fewer than 30 million listens in a single week in the U.S. In the tracking week ending Nov. 14 (Billboard charts dated Nov. 23), Lil Tecca’s “Ran$om” earned 28.5 million streams, according to Nielsen Music. That gives it the distinction as the most-streamed song in the U.S. for a 10th week, despite a 6% drop in streams from the previous tracking week that ended Nov. 7. “Ran$om” is the first song to be the most-streamed in the country with a count below 30 million since the beginning of 2017. That’s when Rae Sremmurd’s “Black Beatles,” featuring Gucci Mane, accumulated 29.3 million streams toward the charts dated Jan. 7, 2017. In that particular week, the song enjoyed its seventh and final week as the country’s most-streamed song, giving up the distinction the following week (Jan. 14, 2017) to Migos’ “Bad and Boujee,” featuring Lil Uzi Vert. Since then, every song that’s been streamed the most of any in the U.S. has pulled at least 30 million. That’s included multiple weeks in the last year-and-a-half during which the week’s top-streamed song was listened to over 100 million times, with Lil Nas X’s “Old Town Road,” featuring Billy Ray Cyrus, holding the biggest streaming week in history at 143 million streams toward the April 20 tallies earlier this year. "Ran$om" marks the smallest week for the most-streamed song in the country since the charts dated Sept. 3, 2016, when The Chainsmokers' "Closer," featuring Halsey, earned 23.1 million. That was its first week with the most-streamed distinction of 12 in all; it eventually rose to 40.5 million streams later that month (Sept. 24, 2016). Is this a red flag for the music industry when it comes to streaming? Not necessarily. According to Nielsen Music, for the tracking week ending Nov. 14 there were 23.1 billion on-demand streams, a fairly minimal decrease of .1%. One month prior, in the week ending Oct. 17, streams reached 22.8 billion. May 16? 21.9 billion. And at the beginning of the year (Jan. 10), the number sat at 19.4 billion. It is, however, evident that there isn’t a clear-cut frontrunner on the streaming charts these days, in the way there was not just during the reign of “Old Town Road” but also some of the more viral tunes of the past year or two from Drake, Taylor Swift and more. “Ran$om,” for instance, is in its 23rd week on the Streaming Songs chart (where it’s No. 2 behind Lil Baby’s “Woah” due to the latter’s higher volume of paid and premium streams vs. programmed or ad-supported clicks). That means that if a major star were to release a new song in the coming weeks, its competition on the streaming side isn’t as formidable as it might have been, say, last spring – that is, barring a continued streaming jump from Arizona Zervas’ “Roxanne,” which leaps an additional 22% to 20.8 million streams for the tracking week ending Nov. 14. Your move, Biebers and Adeles of the world.
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Post by sirskimask on Nov 18, 2019 18:54:57 GMT -5
I hate to be the person who brings up the YE chart, but could this mean AIWFCIY has a spot on this 2019 YE chart due to it's early return? I don't think it has a chance, isn't this the last week of the chart year? Probably, although there's a slight but unlikely chance 11/30 gets counted
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Nov 18, 2019 18:57:13 GMT -5
Weeks in the top 10 (this week)
Senorita 21 No Guidance 21 Truth Hurts 20 Circles 11 Somone You Loved 10 Panini 9 10,000 Hours 4 Lose You To Love Me 3 Good As Hell 3 Memories 2
Weeks in the top 5 (2010s)
Shape Of You 27 Closer 27 Uptown Funk 25 That's What I Like 24 Girls Like You 24 Despacito 23 Old Town Road 23 Without Me 23 Rockstar 22 God's Plan 22 Senorita 21
also...most weeks in the top 3 by a female (2010s)
All About That Bass 17 bad guy 17 Senorita 17
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Post by Au$tin on Nov 18, 2019 18:57:33 GMT -5
Beyond the Hot 100's top 10, notable songs reaching new highs include SHAED's "Trampoline" (16-14) and Jonas Brothers' "Only Human" (19-18), while Lil Baby's "Woah" is the chart's highest debut, at No. 19, fueled largely by 24 million streams, as it launches at No. 1 on Streaming Songs, marking his third leader on the survey.Jesus this is unbelievable. Apple Music is really making Spotify look irrelevant. 5.2 million of "Woah"'s streams came from Spotify, where it's #11 for the week there. The top song on Spotify this week received 11 million streams. That's 46% of what the overall streaming #1 received. That's not even remotely close to being irrelevant.
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Post by gs on Nov 18, 2019 19:05:14 GMT -5
Beyond the Hot 100's top 10, notable songs reaching new highs include SHAED's "Trampoline" (16-14) and Jonas Brothers' "Only Human" (19-18), while Lil Baby's "Woah" is the chart's highest debut, at No. 19, fueled largely by 24 million streams, as it launches at No. 1 on Streaming Songs, marking his third leader on the survey.Jesus this is unbelievable. How can "Woah" be No. 1 on streaming with 24M when "Someone You Loved" has 24.6M and "Ransom" over 28M according to Nielson? Seems like a mistake?
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Post by tanooki on Nov 18, 2019 19:06:43 GMT -5
Beyond the Hot 100's top 10, notable songs reaching new highs include SHAED's "Trampoline" (16-14) and Jonas Brothers' "Only Human" (19-18), while Lil Baby's "Woah" is the chart's highest debut, at No. 19, fueled largely by 24 million streams, as it launches at No. 1 on Streaming Songs, marking his third leader on the survey.Jesus this is unbelievable. How can "Woah" be No. 1 on streaming with 24M when "Someone You Loved" has 24.6M and "Ransom" over 28M according to Nielson? Seems like a mistake? Billboard weighs streams based on if it was a paid or free stream, so even though Ransom has more streams overall, Woah probably had more paid streams and therefore has the most points
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Post by gs on Nov 18, 2019 19:10:26 GMT -5
How can "Woah" be No. 1 on streaming with 24M when "Someone You Loved" has 24.6M and "Ransom" over 28M according to Nielson? Seems like a mistake? Billboard weighs streams based on if it was a paid or free stream, so even though Ransom has more streams overall, Woah probably had more paid streams and therefore has the most points Oof so your charts aren't based on the total numbers, rather their points. That will help when updating the chart for this week, thank you
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Post by gabe on Nov 18, 2019 19:11:54 GMT -5
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Post by GPMB on Nov 18, 2019 19:16:51 GMT -5
If AIWFCIY hits #1 this year, it will break Macarena's record for the longest climb to number one. but this time it’ll *actually* be the longest considering the weeks that the song wasn’t charting
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Post by forg on Nov 18, 2019 19:33:06 GMT -5
Congratulations Somone You Loved and I thought it was lucky enough to get a week at #1
But I do love Circles so I hope it can still have a shot
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