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Post by FindingC7osure on Dec 2, 2019 0:15:14 GMT -5
12/07/19 Early Predictions:
| Song | Points | 1. | Circles (=) | 28,600 | 2. | Someone You Loved (=) | 25,500 | 3. | Good As Hell (=) | 23,700 | 4. | Memories (=) | 22,900 | 5. | Lose You to Love Me (=) | 20,600 | 6. | 10,000 Hours (+3) | 20,000 | 7. | ROXANNE (+5) | 19,400 | 8. | Truth Hurts (+2) | 19,200 | 9. | Señorita (-3) | 19,000 | 10. | No Guidance (-3) | 18,800 | 11. | Bop (+7) | 18,700 | 12. | Panini (-1) | 18,200 | 13. | Dance Monkey (+6) | 18,000 |
Others:
- HIGHEST IN THE ROOM - 17,400
- Trampoline - 17,100
- Lover - 15,500
- AIWFCIY - 14,200
- everything i wanted - 12,800
12/07/19 Final Predictions:
| Song | Points | 1. | Circles (=) | 29,300 | 2. | Someone You Loved (=) | 25,600 | 3. | Good As Hell (=) | 24,300 | 4. | Memories (=) | 23,400 | 5. | Lose You to Love Me (=) | 21,200 | 6. | ROXANNE (+6) | 21,100 | 7. | 10,000 Hours (+2) | 20,600 | 8. | Dance Monkey (+11) | 19,700 | 9. | No Guidance (-2) | 19,500 | 10. | Truth Hurts (=) | 19,300 | 11. | Panini (=) | 19,100 | 12. | Bop (+6) | 18,900 | 13. | Señorita (-7) | 18,800 |
Others:- HIGHEST IN THE ROOM - 17,200
- Trampoline - 17,200
- Lover - 15,700
- AIWFCIY - 14,500
I'll be very busy this week, so I'll probably only do final predictions for 12/14!
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Post by Enigma. on Dec 2, 2019 2:29:23 GMT -5
Yep. It feels weird making them feel so fast but I can't justify moving them higher. There's too much total movement for anything to stay stable and that'll only snowball going into christmas Thats what i thought. Im actually a little worried Talk may not reach 52 weeks if ir does fall to #35 next week, but atleast it dosnt have too far to go. That song has overstayed for so long tbh....
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Post by rimetm on Dec 2, 2019 6:52:17 GMT -5
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Post by gs on Dec 2, 2019 7:49:52 GMT -5
Points averages from everyone's final predictions this week:1. Circles - 29,100 (=) 2. Someone You Loved - 25,800 (=) 3. Good As Hell - 24,100 (=) 4. Memories - 23,200 (=) 5. Lose You To Love Me - 21,500 (=) 6. ROXANNE - 21,100 (+6) 7. Dance Monkey - 20,200 (+12) 8. 10,000 Hours - 20,000 (+1) 9. No Guidance - 19,700 (-2) 10. BOP - 19,600 (+8) Will be interesting to see if the collective average ends up being most accurate
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Post by Kris on Dec 2, 2019 12:26:20 GMT -5
Why are Sucker & I Dont Care falling so fast?, they were falling slowly befote but the last few weeks its just been a complete collapse for those songs. Is it because of all the new debuts lately? If kworb was still allowed to show individual radio charts I bet they're free fallling on AC due to Christmas music coming into play.
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Post by weirdo on Dec 2, 2019 12:34:57 GMT -5
Senorita falling out of the top ten would be crazy. I really am happy to see more movement in the charts though. October through November was largely the same songs with no movement
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Dec 2, 2019 12:36:43 GMT -5
Why are Sucker & I Dont Care falling so fast?, they were falling slowly befote but the last few weeks its just been a complete collapse for those songs. Is it because of all the new debuts lately? If kworb was still allowed to show individual radio charts I bet they're free fallling on AC due to Christmas music coming into play. You're correct. The AC spin count has dropped sharply on Mediabase building charts. On the other hand, JB has a solid shot at #1 on AC with "LIC"
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Post by Lukas on Dec 2, 2019 12:37:15 GMT -5
And to think that people actually thought that Senorita could break the top ten record. Perhaps Billboard’s reweighing of x0.85 for their all-time lists would actually be a suitable one for this coming era. Especially with top songs such as Truth Hurts and Senorita most likely not making it to 25 weeks in the top 10.
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Post by candypaint on Dec 2, 2019 12:43:32 GMT -5
Señorita falling out the Top 10 would be great. The stagnancy of the Top 10 is always super boring and DaBaby getting another Top 10 would be sweet.
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Post by kierz7 on Dec 2, 2019 12:44:13 GMT -5
I still haven’t actively listened to nor heard:
• BOP • 10K Hours • Dance Monkey • ROXANNE
Also, I’ve only ever heard less than a minute of “Circles”.
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Which of those songs are actually worth listening to? Seriously?
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Post by mikeymonster on Dec 2, 2019 12:46:05 GMT -5
I still haven’t actively listened to nor heard: • BOP • 10K Hours • Dance Monkey • ROXANNE Also, I’ve only ever heard less than a minute of “Circles”. 💀 💀 💀 Which of those songs are actually worth listening to? Seriously? If you were to listen to any of those songs you've mentioned then definitely "Circles" and maybe "10,000 Hours" (even though I don't really like it). They're the only ones out of those that don't burn your ears.
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Post by shoocoochoocoo on Dec 2, 2019 12:59:27 GMT -5
None of those is top quality music, of course...Far from it!
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Post by lostinhavana on Dec 2, 2019 13:00:36 GMT -5
Speaking of Señorita, remember that it’s on Camila’s album coming out Friday so depending on how well Romance does it could get a slight boost from it
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Post by Enigma. on Dec 2, 2019 13:03:50 GMT -5
10 000 Hrs is tragic.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Dec 2, 2019 13:44:35 GMT -5
#1 Circles #2 Someone You Loved #3 Good As Hell #4 Memories #5 Roxanne #6 Lose You To Love Me #7 Senorita #8 10,000 Hours #9 Truth Hurts #10 No Guidance
#11 Dance Monkey #12 BOP #16 Ballin #18 All I Want For Christmas Is You
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Post by candypaint on Dec 2, 2019 13:47:09 GMT -5
I still haven’t actively listened to nor heard: • BOP • 10K Hours • Dance Monkey • ROXANNE Also, I’ve only ever heard less than a minute of “Circles”. 💀 💀 💀 Which of those songs are actually worth listening to? Seriously? ROXANNE, BOP, and Circles are all great tracks. Dance Monkey is just unlistenable IMO.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Dec 2, 2019 13:52:52 GMT -5
YES at No Guidance sneaking in another week in the top 10. It's been a great run.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Dec 2, 2019 13:53:49 GMT -5
Weeks in the top 10
Senorita 23 No Guidance 23 Truth Hurts 22 Circles 13 Someone You Loved 12 10,000 Hours 6 Lose You To Love Me 5 Good As Hell 5 Memories 4 Roxanne 1
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Post by Lukas on Dec 2, 2019 13:55:37 GMT -5
Post Malone's 'Circles' Spends Second Week at No. 1 on Hot 100, Arizona Zervas' 'Roxanne' Zooms to Top Five12/2/2019 by Gary Trust'Roxanne' roars from No. 12 to No. 5.Post Malone tallies a second week at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 with "Circles," which takes over as the top-selling song in the U.S. after the singer-songwriter and rapper performed it on the American Music Awards on Nov. 24. Plus, Arizona Zervas' debut hit "Roxanne" soars from No. 12 to No. 5 on the Hot 100, as it remains the most-streamed song in the country. Let's run down the top 10 on the Hot 100 (dated Dec. 7), which blends all-genre U.S. streaming, radio airplay and sales data. All charts will update on Billboard.com tomorrow (Dec. 3). "Circles," released on Republic Records, blasts from No. 6 to No. 1 on the Digital Song Sales chart, surging by 45% to 20,000 sold in the week ending Nov. 28, according to Nielsen Music. It rises 5-3 on Streaming Songs, up 5% to 24.6 million U.S. streams in the same span, while keeping at No. 3 on Radio Songs, with 90.6 million audience impressions, essentially even week-over-week, in the week ending Dec. 1. Helping spark its gains, Post Malone performed "Circles" in a medley with "Take What You Want" (with Ozzy Osbourne, Travis Scott and Watt) on the AMAs, which aired live on Nov. 24 on ABC. Both songs are from Post Malone's LP Hollywood's Bleeding, which won for favorite album – rap/hip-hop that night. With "Circles," Post Malone adds his fourth Digital Song Sales No. 1, after "Rockstar," featuring 21 Savage, ruled for a week in October 2017, "Psycho," featuring Ty Dolla $ign, led for two weeks beginning in March 2018 and "Sunflower (Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse)," with Swae Lee, reigned for three frames in January. Lewis Capaldi's "Someone You Loved" holds at No. 2 on the Hot 100, after the ballad logged three weeks at No. 1. It becomes his first No. 1 on the Adult Contemporary radio airplay chart (after topping the Adult Pop Songs and Pop Songs airplay tallies for seven and three weeks, respectively). Lizzo's "Good as Hell" spends a second week at its No. 3 Hot 100 best, as it adds a fifth week at No. 1 on the Hot R&B Songs chart and a third frame atop Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs (both of which employ the same multi-metric methodology as the Hot 100), as well as a second week at No. 1 on Radio Songs (97.4 million, up 4%). Maroon 5's "Memories" is steady at its No. 4 Hot 100 high, as it becomes the band's record-extending 14th No. 1 on Adult Pop Songs. Arizona Zervas' breakthrough hit "Roxanne" bounds from No. 12 to No. 5 on the Hot 100, as it tallies a second week at No. 1 on Streaming Songs (36.6 million, up 22%), rises 42-33 on Digital Song Sales (5,000, up 12%) and pushes closer to Radio Songs (15.2 million, up 65%). The track reaches the Hot 100's top 10 in its fourth week on the survey, after it debuted at No. 34 on the chart dated Nov. 16. Upon its entrance, the song was self-released, before Zervas signed with Columbia Records. "Roxanne" concurrently becomes Zervas' first No. 1 on the multi-metric Hot Rap Songs chart. (The song by the Maryland native is not a remake of The Police's "Roxanne," the band's first Hot 100 hit that reached No. 32 in 1979.) Selena Gomez's "Lose You to Love Me" dips 5-6 on the Hot 100, after becoming her first No. 1, while becoming her eighth top 10 on Radio Songs (13-9; 62.2 million, up 16%). Shawn Mendes and Camila Cabello's former Hot 100 No. 1 "Señorita" descends 6-7 and Dan + Shay and Justin Bieber's "10,000 Hours" rises 9-8, after debuting at its No. 4 peak. The latter leads the multi-metric Hot Country Songs chart for an eighth week. As Post Malone did, Gomez, Mendes, Cabello and Dan + Shay also all shone in the AMAs spotlight on Nov. 24. Gomez performed "Lose" (in a medley with her fellow new song "Look at Her Now"); Mendes and Cabello sang "Señorita," which also won for collaboration of the year; and Dan + Shay claimed the award for favorite duo or group – country. Rounding out the Hot 100's top 10, Lizzo's former seven-week No. 1 "Truth Hurts" rebounds 10-9 (after she performed her song "Jerome" on the AMAs) and Chris Brown's "No Guidance," featuring Drake, falls 7-10, after reaching No. 5. Just outside the Hot 100's top 10, Tones and I's "Dance Monkey" leaps 19-11, DaBaby's "Bop" jumps 18-12, Mustard's "Ballin'," featuring Roddy Ricch, rises 20-16 and Mariah Carey's 1994 seasonal classic "All I Want for Christmas Is You" dashes 31-18. Find out more Hot 100 news on Billboard.com this week, and, for all chart news, you can listen (and subscribe) to Billboard's Pop Shop Podcast and follow billboard and billboardcharts on both Twitter and Instagram. And again, be sure to visit Billboard.com tomorrow (Dec. 3), when all charts, including the Hot 100 in its entirety, will refresh.
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Post by lazer on Dec 2, 2019 14:05:40 GMT -5
Honestly, there needs to be a formula change in order to decrease longevity in the top ten.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Dec 2, 2019 14:07:35 GMT -5
Go Roxanne!!!
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Post by weirdo on Dec 2, 2019 14:10:22 GMT -5
Senorita still in the Top 10 which is cool but this will probably be its last week sadly. Suprised to see Truth Hurts still in the Top 10
Hoping The Weeknd can take down Circles. We dont need another 4wk #1
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Post by moonlite on Dec 2, 2019 14:12:12 GMT -5
Random but the #1 on Digital Song Sales has been at exactly 20k for 4 weeks now
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Post by Lukas on Dec 2, 2019 14:14:20 GMT -5
Honestly, there needs to be a formula change in order to decrease longevity in the top ten. Not necessarily. Unless you're trying to do something like this: Getting rid of UGC views or weighing them much less than they currently are weighted (like, from two-thirds of a normal stream to just one-third) would do that. UGC views are the reason why older songs are still inside the top 10, like Senorita is. Its increase in UGC views kept it inside the top 10. There is no way that they should be weighed as much as a regular YouTube stream. The main point is, turnover rates don't matter at all as long as the chart accurately represents what people are listening to.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Dec 2, 2019 14:14:34 GMT -5
Senorita still in the Top 10 which is cool but this will probably be its last week sadly. Suprised to see Truth Hurts still in the Top 10 Hoping The Weeknd can take down Circles. We dont need another 4wk #1 Camila's album is in 4 days, Senorita will be in the top 10 again.
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Post by lazer on Dec 2, 2019 14:27:31 GMT -5
Honestly, there needs to be a formula change in order to decrease longevity in the top ten. Not necessarily. Unless you're trying to do something like this: Getting rid of UGC views or weighing them much less than they currently are weighted (like, from two-thirds of a normal stream to just one-third) would do that. UGC views are the reason why older songs are still inside the top 10, like Senorita is. Its increase in UGC views kept it inside the top 10. There is no way that they should be weighed as much as a regular YouTube stream. Turnover rates don't matter at all as long as the chart accurately represents what people are listening to. Billboard needs to decrease the UGC weight. It shouldn’t be equal to a regular stream. That’s why so many songs nowadays overstayed their welcome in the top ten.
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Post by sirskimask on Dec 2, 2019 14:41:42 GMT -5
Senorita still in the Top 10 which is cool but this will probably be its last week sadly. Suprised to see Truth Hurts still in the Top 10 Hoping The Weeknd can take down Circles. We dont need another 4wk #1 What's so bad about 4 week #1's? Not that I don't want Abel to hit #1 or anything but 4 weeks is not very long at all lol
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Post by candypaint on Dec 2, 2019 15:05:43 GMT -5
How funny would it be if all the begging for Circles to not stall at #2 and dethrone SYL comes back to bite and in return blocks Heartless from #1.
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Post by Lukas on Dec 2, 2019 15:08:40 GMT -5
How funny would it be if all the begging for Circles to not stall at #2 and dethrone SYL comes back to bite and in return blocks Heartless from #1. Well many people did not want Someone You Loved to be at #1 during those weeks. Definitely more than the number of people who want The Weeknd to debut at #1.
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Post by weirdo on Dec 2, 2019 15:26:47 GMT -5
Senorita still in the Top 10 which is cool but this will probably be its last week sadly. Suprised to see Truth Hurts still in the Top 10 Hoping The Weeknd can take down Circles. We dont need another 4wk #1 Camila's album is in 4 days, Senorita will be in the top 10 again. Good point
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