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Post by GP on Jun 29, 2020 17:36:44 GMT -5
it's not the old old, there were 2 changes. it only slightly increased. okay even with this formula Break my heart should rise Well then hold on dearly for tomorrow, mood24.
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Post by chartfreak on Jun 29, 2020 20:59:07 GMT -5
it's not the old old, there were 2 changes. it only slightly increased. okay even with this formula Break my heart should rise You remind me of Westen from UK Mix....
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Post by kimberly on Jun 29, 2020 21:10:41 GMT -5
FYI before your meltdown, I'm glad Camila got a Pop #1 with My Oh My (MOM) since that album was handled very poorly. But facts are facts. The Hot 100 formula has changed, and radio is now counted lower. Obviously that will affect BMH since it's so high on radio. Anyone can understand that. I don't see the need to compare this to MOM, but since we are - this is doing much better than MOM when it was hovering around #5/#6 on Pop. By that time, MOM was around #60 on iTunes, #70 on Spotify, and barely top 200 on AM. BMH, at the same is #40 on iTunes, almost top 30 on iTunes, and top 100 on AM. Not to mention, DSN is still incredibly strong, as it's still ahead on both radio & Spotify. No offence but the excuses 'DSN is still strong' are aged badly..Harry styles proved that you can have two big hits at the same time...also if break my heart is doing better now in all metrics compared to how my oh my was doing then why break my heart is still low on hot 100 ? You should have stayed offline Cause we were doing better alone But when you said 'no offense' (misspelled it too)We knew that was the end of it all
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Post by Juan Carlos on Jun 29, 2020 22:17:18 GMT -5
I'm just spreading the 'reality' here. That's cool from you. I appreciate that, but it's not necessary anymore. Thank you.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 29, 2020 22:19:33 GMT -5
HALLELUJAH. Not even back 24 hours and the LORDT CAME THROUGH!
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Post by Choco on Jun 29, 2020 23:32:36 GMT -5
FYI before your meltdown, I'm glad Camila got a Pop #1 with My Oh My (MOM) since that album was handled very poorly.Β But facts are facts. The Hot 100 formula has changed, and radio is now counted lower. Obviously that will affect BMH since it's so high on radio. Anyone can understand that.Β I don't see the need to compare this to MOM, but since we are - this is doing much better than MOM when it was hovering around #5/#6 on Pop. By that time, MOM was around #60 on iTunes, #70 on Spotify, and barely top 200 on AM. BMH, at the same is #40 on iTunes, almost top 30 on iTunes, and top 100 on AM. Not to mention, DSN is still incredibly strong, as it's still ahead on both radio & Spotify.Β No offence but the excuses 'DSN is still strong' are aged badly..Harry styles proved that you can have two big hits at the same time...also if break my heart is doing better now in all metrics compared to how my oh my was doing then why break my heart is still low on hot 100Β ? I mean yes hot 100 formula has changed but the radio still counts and it's not having so huge difference so I don't understand how break my heart is still not a top 20 hot 100 hit with the better streams and sales..maybe cause the radio is not impressive even with the change of the hot 100 formula ...today's +0.387 audience update is not great and I remember that the song had negative updates on the radio some days ago...and the call outs are starting to drop the song....I knew from the beginning that the song didn't have chances...for my personal taste the song is not catchy,not good enough to make people buy it,Β stream it or want to play it on the radio constantly ...as I said she needs to release the summer latin collab before it's too late...some insiders teased it 1 month ago...or she can release a more catchy song from her album..break my heart won't reach high positions on hot 100 and I don't think it can go number one on pop -only if a miracle happens-so she should move on..for me physical is a better song and it would have been a better follow up to 'don't start now' .I don't know why they didn't release it as an official USA radio single... Yeah I ain't reading that but thanks for posting.
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Post by wjr15 on Jun 29, 2020 23:59:46 GMT -5
No offence but the excuses 'DSN is still strong' are aged badly..Harry styles proved that you can have two big hits at the same time...also if break my heart is doing better now in all metrics compared to how my oh my was doing then why break my heart is still low on hot 100 ? I mean yes hot 100 formula has changed but the radio still counts and it's not having so huge difference so I don't understand how break my heart is still not a top 20 hot 100 hit with the better streams and sales..maybe cause the radio is not impressive even with the change of the hot 100 formula ...today's +0.387 audience update is not great and I remember that the song had negative updates on the radio some days ago...and the call outs are starting to drop the song....I knew from the beginning that the song didn't have chances...for my personal taste the song is not catchy,not good enough to make people buy it, stream it or want to play it on the radio constantly ...as I said she needs to release the summer latin collab before it's too late...some insiders teased it 1 month ago...or she can release a more catchy song from her album..break my heart won't reach high positions on hot 100 and I don't think it can go number one on pop -only if a miracle happens-so she should move on..for me physical is a better song and it would have been a better follow up to 'don't start now' .I don't know why they didn't release it as an official USA radio single... Yeah I ain't reading that but thanks for posting. βTis gone for good
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Post by Fire on Jun 30, 2020 0:26:52 GMT -5
I'm just spreading the 'reality' here. That's cool from you. I appreciate that, but it's not necessary anymore. Thank you. first ending popsummit and now ending mood24 you're truly a god.
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Post by #brayden on Jun 30, 2020 0:28:11 GMT -5
I do think this will go #1 at some point.
The difference (for me) between this song and "Intentions" / "My Oh My" is that it seems like this song could go #1 and actually sit there for a bit. Not saying the other two weren't popular in their own right, but the song(s) that they surpassed to reach the summit were very clearly bigger hits and more popular songs at the time. They were pushed to #1 and then dropped immediately.
I don't think radio will drop this immediately if/once it goes #1. I think it'll have more longevity. Also expecting sales + streams to increase as this increases on radio. Expecting it could peak around the Top 10 on the Hot 100.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jun 30, 2020 6:00:09 GMT -5
How timely that expulsion was, some s**t would've been spouted over this. :sip2:
POP: 6 5 DUA LIPA Break My Heart 13558 12930 628 62.343
+71 Spins -23 Bullet -0.291 Audience
HOT AC: 17 13 DUA LIPA Break My Heart 2551 2202 349 12.627
+29 Spins -26 Bullet +0.055 Audience
RHYTHMIC: 49 47 DUA LIPA Break My Heart 309 284 25 0.806
+17 Spins +22 Bullet +0.032 Audience
SPINS: 3920 Spins from #1, The Weeknd (+85) 3040 Spins from #2, Doja Cat (+195) 2839 Spins from #3, Justin Bieber (+417) 2506 Spins from #4, Trevor Daniel (+36)
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Post by GP on Jun 30, 2020 6:03:00 GMT -5
at least it's still gaining more than the top4...
looking at the positives
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Post by wjr15 on Jun 30, 2020 9:05:49 GMT -5
Top 5!!!! I love how Dua is doing so well this era. Itβs well deserved.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 1, 2020 5:30:57 GMT -5
Yeah, no. The audience loss isn't tragic, it's annoying. The spins are fine, and as long as they continue to go up the audience will eventually follow.
POP: 6 5 DUA LIPA Break My Heart 13632 13027 605 61.945
+74 Spins -23 Bullet -0.398 Audience
HOT AC: 17 13 DUA LIPA Break My Heart 2604 2251 353 12.759
+53 Spins +4 Bullet +0.132 Audience
RHYTHMIC: 51 48 DUA LIPA Break My Heart 322 280 42 0.834
+13 Spins +17 Bullet +0.028 Audience
SPINS: 3768 Spins from #1, The Weeknd (+152) 2834 Spins from #2, Doja Cat (+206) 2460 Spins from #3, Trevor Daniel (+46) 2433 Spins from #4, Justin Bieber (+406)
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Post by GP on Jul 1, 2020 7:48:43 GMT -5
anywaysssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
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Post by Choco on Jul 1, 2020 8:52:47 GMT -5
It's so weird that radio seems to be on the verge of dropping it when callouts are really good. Goes to prove my suspicion that callouts only matter when they're terrible, otherwise there seems to be little to no effect.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 2, 2020 5:38:04 GMT -5
POP: 6 5 DUA LIPA Break My Heart 13746 13135 611 62.038
+114 Spins +6 Bullet +0.093 Audience
HOT AC: 16 13 DUA LIPA Break My Heart 2663 2311 352 13.232
+59 Spins -1 Bullet +0.473 Audience
RHYTHMIC: 52 47 DUA LIPA Break My Heart 347 270 77 0.900
+25 Spins +35 Bullet +0.066 Audience
SPINS: 3641 Spins from #1, The Weeknd (+127) 2579 Spins from #2, Doja Cat (+255) 2404 Spins from #3, Trevor Daniel (+56) 1922 Spins from #4, Justin Bieber (+511)
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Post by Choco on Jul 2, 2020 10:34:07 GMT -5
Thank God Doja and Biebz are finally freefalling.
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Post by Envoirment on Jul 2, 2020 10:40:34 GMT -5
Still gaining at a nice pace. Up two spots to #23 on the Hot 100. There's a good chance it'll re-peak on next week's chart. Perhaps even go top 20 if it can gain a little bit more radio-wise.
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Post by kimberly on Jul 2, 2020 12:10:26 GMT -5
Still gaining at a nice pace. Up two spots to #23 on the Hot 100. There's a good chance it'll re-peak on next week's chart. Perhaps even go top 20 if it can gain a little bit more radio-wise. hahaha ??? what's your point
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Post by Choco on Jul 2, 2020 13:58:32 GMT -5
Even if the gains aren't astronomical, it's still hitting new audience highs each day which is what matters in terms of Hot 100 placement.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 13:58:57 GMT -5
#26 on iTunes #35 on Spotify #87 on YouTube #85 on Apple Music
I think all is well, its doing better on all fronts than My Oh My did and that song went #1 I would know this since I usually did check on how it was doing on kworb and reported it here for My Oh My's thread
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Post by chartfreak on Jul 2, 2020 14:00:18 GMT -5
Well let's hope for a top 20 peak at least on the Hot 100.
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Post by kimberly on Jul 2, 2020 14:24:49 GMT -5
I'm just being realistic. I don't see a re-peak for next week. Radio seems to be dropping the song + it's not that good on streaming. Well, just in time for the Levitating remix. where? it reached a new audience peak today. it's also doing good on streaming for a pop song that came out in March. Simon has the song staying at #23 in his early predictions. If this keeps gaining audience consistently through Sunday, it might outperform his early estimates. it's only 4 points behind #20 and 5 points behind #19. I'm definitely not saying this song will go Top 5 on the Hot 100 but Top 20 is absolutely within reach.
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Post by kimberly on Jul 2, 2020 14:42:42 GMT -5
hmm yeah a +0.090M audience update is really good baby learn what the Hot 100 is before talking. "Break My Heart" is #9 on overall radio and gained 0.68M audience impressions, while 6 of the 8 songs in front of her are losing (3 of them lost more than 1M). The other 2 gained less than "Break My Heart." the path is clearing & this is continuing to gain on radio.
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Post by Choco on Jul 2, 2020 14:52:42 GMT -5
hmm yeah a +0.090M audience update is really good As one of the five Dua Lipa stans in the forum I regret to inform you that you're expelled from our club. Good day.
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Post by GP on Jul 2, 2020 15:17:02 GMT -5
Well let's hope for a top 20 peak at least on the Hot 100. that's legit all that I'm asking for
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Post by GP on Jul 2, 2020 15:17:37 GMT -5
hmm yeah a +0.090M audience update is really good As one of the five Dua Lipa stans in the forum I regret to inform you that you're expelled from our club. Good day. only 5 nn
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Post by musicspy on Jul 2, 2020 15:40:07 GMT -5
Well let's hope for a top 20 peak at least on the Hot 100. that's legit all that I'm asking for Assuming this is doing better than MOM in most fields, it should be able to be in the top15 in the end
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Post by GP on Jul 2, 2020 15:47:07 GMT -5
that's legit all that I'm asking for Assuming this is doing better than MOM in most fields, it should be able to be in the top15 in the end Radio is considerably weighted down. It will all come down to how much further it goes on radio. Streaming + Sales is there more than it was for MOM in its H100 peak for sure, but I don't know if they'll get it to #1.
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Post by musicspy on Jul 2, 2020 16:08:07 GMT -5
Assuming this is doing better than MOM in most fields, it should be able to be in the top15 in the end Radio is considerably weighted down. It will all come down to how much further it goes on radio. Yeah, thats true
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