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Post by twelvevinylrecords on Jan 27, 2020 13:45:53 GMT -5
Wow, all this arguing over an awards show that hasn't been relevant in nearly a decade lmao. Billie deserved all the wins she got if anything she is the sound of popular music to come. People saying Ariana 'revived' pop music are also admitting that 7 rings is poppy in any way are hilarious lol, 7 rings is far more RnB than anything (and also pretty terrible all things considered). I think of it like this, a decade from now people aren't going to see 2019 as the year of Ariana, or the year of Lana, but the year that Billie Eilish became huge. Honestly, the comparisons to Lady Gaga are very accurate as thats how we see 2009 in hindsight. Now can we PLEASE stop arguing? The Grammy's do not even really matter and not worth all the anger lmao
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Post by twelvevinylrecords on Jan 27, 2020 13:47:52 GMT -5
Uh, so, never-resolvable arguments about cultural impact and award-deservingness aside... What's the predicted impact of the Grammys on the Hot 100 (aka, the title of this thread)? Billie will see gains, Rodeo might chart again. Tyler maybe? I don't see much changing compared to Shallow last year. |
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Post by gabe on Jan 27, 2020 13:47:54 GMT -5
Wow, all this arguing over an awards show that hasn't been relevant in nearly a decade lmao. Billie deserved all the wins she got if anything she is the sound of popular music to come. People saying Ariana 'revived' pop music are also admitting that 7 rings is poppy in any way are hilarious lol , 7 rings is far more RnB than anything (and also pretty terrible all things considered). I think of it like this, a decade from now people aren't going to see 2019 as the year of Ariana, or the year of Lana, but the year that Billie Eilish became huge. Honestly, the comparisons to Lady Gaga are very accurate as thats how we see 2009 in hindsight. Now can we PLEASE stop arguing? The Grammy's do not even really matter and not worth all the anger lmao yes, because 7 rings would fit perfectly in my r&b playlist right between usher and mary j blige |
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Post by twelvevinylrecords on Jan 27, 2020 13:49:17 GMT -5
Wow, all this arguing over an awards show that hasn't been relevant in nearly a decade lmao. Billie deserved all the wins she got if anything she is the sound of popular music to come. People saying Ariana 'revived' pop music are also admitting that 7 rings is poppy in any way are hilarious lol , 7 rings is far more RnB than anything (and also pretty terrible all things considered). I think of it like this, a decade from now people aren't going to see 2019 as the year of Ariana, or the year of Lana, but the year that Billie Eilish became huge. Honestly, the comparisons to Lady Gaga are very accurate as thats how we see 2009 in hindsight. Now can we PLEASE stop arguing? The Grammy's do not even really matter and not worth all the anger lmao yes, because 7 rings would fit perfectly in my r&b playlist right between usher and mary j blige I mean, it fits more aptly there than with Dua Lipa and Gaga tbh |
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Post by tuna on Jan 27, 2020 13:51:19 GMT -5
Wow, all this arguing over an awards show that hasn't been relevant in nearly a decade lmao. Billie deserved all the wins she got if anything she is the sound of popular music to come. People saying Ariana 'revived' pop music are also admitting that 7 rings is poppy in any way are hilarious lol , 7 rings is far more RnB than anything (and also pretty terrible all things considered). I think of it like this, a decade from now people aren't going to see 2019 as the year of Ariana, or the year of Lana, but the year that Billie Eilish became huge. Honestly, the comparisons to Lady Gaga are very accurate as thats how we see 2009 in hindsight. Now can we PLEASE stop arguing? The Grammy's do not even really matter and not worth all the anger lmao yes, because 7 rings would fit perfectly in my r&b playlist right between usher and mary j blige Maybe put it in your 2010s r&b playlist instead of your 2000s one |
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Post by m450n on Jan 27, 2020 13:52:51 GMT -5
everyone pretending billie invented a genre when she is so heavily influenced by lorde and lana... Billie invented ASMR pop and she is a legend and we will respect her for that. If anything it was Selena that did that. But anyways, though I was mad initially that NFR didn't win, I actually see why it was given to WWAFA, WDWG? It was an amazing album, and easily had the most cultural impact (look at the streaming #s), it deals with deep topics and is well-written. And I don't think this will be Billie's peak at all, everything i wanted is coming for blood. |
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Post by kierz7 on Jan 27, 2020 13:59:02 GMT -5
everyone pretending billie invented a genre when she is so heavily influenced by lorde and lana... Exactly. As if she isn’t in the same damn musical sphere of both Lorde and LDR and Marina and the Diamonds... “BuT IMpaCT1!1!1!1!”. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 27, 2020 14:00:06 GMT -5
everyone pretending billie invented a genre when she is so heavily influenced by lorde and lana... Billie invented ASMR pop and she is a legend and we will respect her for that. Um... no, she didn't. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jan 27, 2020 14:04:17 GMT -5
Wow, all this arguing over an awards show that hasn't been relevant in nearly a decade lmao. Billie deserved all the wins she got if anything she is the sound of popular music to come. People saying Ariana 'revived' pop music are also admitting that 7 rings is poppy in any way are hilarious lol, 7 rings is far more RnB than anything (and also pretty terrible all things considered). I think of it like this, a decade from now people aren't going to see 2019 as the year of Ariana, or the year of Lana, but the year that Billie Eilish became huge. Honestly, the comparisons to Lady Gaga are very accurate as thats how we see 2009 in hindsight. Now can we PLEASE stop arguing? The Grammy's do not even really matter and not worth all the anger lmao You saying the Grammys don’t matter has as much weight as what you think the Grammys have |
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Post by Zeebz on Jan 27, 2020 14:06:33 GMT -5
Friendly reminder to please keep the conversation on topic and directed towards this week’s Hot 100 tracking week. While conversations about the Grammy’s, various artistic impacts, and other, more niche topics are encouraged, they are off topic for this thread unless they are specifically related to this week’s Hot 100. There are plenty of other threads to discuss these topics in, which you’re more than welcome to utilize.
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Post by sirskimask on Jan 27, 2020 14:07:44 GMT -5
Is it time for the "Spotify's dead" obligatory posts or do we understand that Sunday usually sees a decrease for everything and there were no big releases this week... I might be reaching, but I think Kobe Bryant's death had something to do with why yesterday's losses were especially huge. It shook the entire country. I guess not a lot of people felt like streaming their favorite songs as much following the news of his death. I think you got a valid point tbh, I mean I myself only listened to a couple of songs all day yesterday, wasn't in the mood to do anything at all, not even listen to music. |
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Post by Lukas on Jan 27, 2020 14:07:49 GMT -5
Why do people think that the Grammy's are not relevant? The Grammy's are definitely still relevant even in a Hot 100 perspective because there will be massive gains from songs because of it - in fact, Billie Eilish now has 3 songs in the top 10 on iTunes (bad guy, everything i wanted, when the party's over) because of it. (Honestly, I wonder how big of gains these songs will get this week or if they would re-enter on the chart.) Other songs from other artists also experienced moderate gains on iTunes also because of this. I suspect it won't be anything different for streaming services either.
However, I don't know why any cultural discussion needs to be discussed extensively here almost every week - this is a chart discussion thread. Enough said.
Edit: A bunch of people beat me to this. Okay then.
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Post by moonlite on Jan 27, 2020 14:13:03 GMT -5
Wow, all this arguing over an awards show that hasn't been relevant in nearly a decade lmao. This can't possibly be true if everybody continues to have mental breakdowns over the show's results literally every year |
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Post by violentdreams on Jan 27, 2020 14:23:48 GMT -5
Billie invented ASMR pop and she is a legend and we will respect her for that. Um... no, she didn't. Yeah she did. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 27, 2020 14:36:31 GMT -5
No, she didn't. Her sound is largely influenced by Lana Del Rey's sound and Lorde's sound. People who came before her. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 14:39:59 GMT -5
Lizzo has already seen a fair share of backlash after she blew up (like everyone who makes it big these days), she even quit Twitter recently. As for this: “The idea that Lizzo had to win because she was a nice black lady who could’ve gotten them some good press”. Oh... Okay. I was addressing this: I just can’t believe that with all the bad press they been having recently they had a muti talented black female in all four major awards with two massive hits critically acclaimed inderisty backing , Who career broke all models of the pop star who also raps and they decided to award someone who can’t sing . They had it on a sliver platter I just , the perfect opportunity for good press and not be seen as sexist and racist as they are Wanna make the argument that "Truth Hurts" was better than "bad guy"? Sure. I can understand that and we can have a nice discussion. Wanna make the argument that Lizzo deserved to win because it was a good look to award a black lady after several public messes in a row (and not for her artistic achievements, underdog status, success after multiple years of being ignored, and her breakthrough year)? I don't get that. I literally talked about her artistic achievements underdog status and success story in my post lol and I didn’t say she should of won for being black but I was saying it was stupid on the Grammys end to not kill all birds with one stone cuz not only did she deserves the Grammys with her quality martial and commercial success it’s also a great look having a black female rapper win a major award while also having it not be questioned that she only won as a cover up, it would of been a win for everyone |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 14:40:58 GMT -5
everyone pretending billie invented a genre when she is so heavily influenced by lorde and lana... Billie invented ASMR pop and she is a legend and we will respect her for that. This Selena Gomez ensure |
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Post by dovahduck on Jan 27, 2020 14:46:23 GMT -5
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Post by violentdreams on Jan 27, 2020 14:51:09 GMT -5
No, she didn't. Her sound is largely influenced by Lana Del Rey's sound and Lorde's sound. People who came before her. Lorde and Lana never whispered. Maybe they would each have an AOTY Grammy if they did. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 27, 2020 14:59:57 GMT -5
^Thank you... bye!
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Jan 27, 2020 15:20:30 GMT -5
iTunes
#1 Anyone - Demi Lovato
#2 Nobody But You - Blake Shelton & Gwen Stefani
#3 bad guy - Billie Eilish
#4 First Man - Camila Cabello
#5 What A Man Gotta Do - JoBros
#6 when the party’s over - Billie Eilish
#7 everything i wanted - Billie Eilish
#8 Old Town Road (Remix) - Lil Nas X & Billy Ray Cyrus
#9 Dance Monkey - Tones and I
#10 Good as Hell - Lizzo
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#12 Underdog - Alicia Keys
#15 Truth Hurts - Lizzo
#16 Bring My Flowers Now - Tanya Tucker
#18 ocean eyes - Billie Eilish
#23 Anyone (clean) - Demi Lovato
#42 Sometimes - H.E.R.
#44 This Land - Gary Clark Jr
#49 7 rings - Ariana Grande
#51 Hard Place - H.E.R.
#73 Cuz I Love You - Lizzo
#116 Sober - Demi Lovato
#138 NEW MAGIC WAND - Tyler, the Creator
#145 EARFQUAKE - Tyler, the Creator
#164 - Juro Que - ROSALÍA
#165 idontwannabeyouanymore - Billie Eilish
#180 MALAMENTE - ROSALÍA
#182 Con Altura - ROSALÍA, J Balvin & El Guincho
#187 bellyache - Billie Eilish
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Post by Enigma. on Jan 27, 2020 15:32:07 GMT -5
It seems that on Spotify, people are moving on from The Box to High Fashion in some extent. Which is good for Roddy, the more success the better!
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Post by candypaint on Jan 27, 2020 16:01:50 GMT -5
everyone pretending billie invented a genre when she is so heavily influenced by lorde and lana... Nobody said she invented anything. This is 2020...who invents anything new in music at this point? We’re talking about how her sound is influencing the music scene as we speak, and deserves to be awarded whether you like that or not. It’s subjective to say her music is bad (although objectively the production is top notch) but objectively her winning makes sense. She is the face of pop music going into this next decade, and that’s a fact. And btw Lana and Lorde didn’t invent anything either. Lana is very obviously influenced by Joni Mitchell and Leonard Cohen mixed with noir, and Lorde is very much influenced by Kate Bush. So they aren’t “original” by any means, yet they were fresh for their time just like Billie is now. |
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Post by candypaint on Jan 27, 2020 16:03:11 GMT -5
Billie invented ASMR pop and she is a legend and we will respect her for that. This Selena Gomez ensure *Janet Jackson erasure 😉 |
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Post by mako on Jan 27, 2020 16:31:26 GMT -5
I really hope New Magic Wand re-enters. That performance was amazing
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Post by gabe on Jan 27, 2020 16:45:09 GMT -5
No, she didn't. Her sound is largely influenced by Lana Del Rey's sound and Lorde's sound. People who came before her. Lorde and Lana never whispered. Maybe they would each have an AOTY Grammy if they did. maybe mods should check this person for off-topic discussion! here's hoping godzilla tumbles out of the top 10, and dance monkey reaches a new peak! |
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Post by iggyamo on Jan 27, 2020 16:45:25 GMT -5
No, she didn't. Her sound is largely influenced by Lana Del Rey's sound and Lorde's sound. People who came before her. I can hear the Lana and Lorde influences, but I think Billie’s best description is watered down SOPHIE. WWAFAWDWG has kind of a similar theme as SOPHIE’s last album, but the experimental side is just not as provocative as SOPHIE. |
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Post by willapted33 on Jan 27, 2020 17:04:55 GMT -5
No, she didn't. Her sound is largely influenced by Lana Del Rey's sound and Lorde's sound. People who came before her. I can hear the Lana and Lorde influences, but I think Billie’s best description is watered down SOPHIE. WWAFAWDWG has kind of a similar theme as SOPHIE’s last album, but the experimental side is just not as provocative as SOPHIE. this man gets it everyone keeps barging in with the Lana/Lorde comparisons... do you guys even listen to the production. it's way more down the SOPHIE-lane and is more experimental than anything Lana/Lorde have ever done (and i prefer Lana/Lorde ftr). |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 27, 2020 18:10:03 GMT -5
1/27/2020 by Keith Caulfield
The 2020 Grammy Awards pushed immediate gains for the songs performed on the Jan. 26 live CBS broadcast, according to initial reports to Nielsen Music/MRC Data. Collectively, sales of the tunes performed on the show grew by 266% on Jan. 26, as compared to the previous day. Combined, the performed songs (including original and popularized versions of songs covered, but not including brand new-to-market tracks) sold 45,000 downloads the day of the show, up from 12,000 the day before.
Some of the most notable gainers were tallied by Blake Shelton’s “Nobody But You,” featuring Gwen Stefani (up 91% to 8,000; up from 4,000 on the day before), Camila Cabello’s “First Man” (up 740% to 5,000; up from a negligible sum), host Alicia Keys’ “Underdog” (up 787% to 3,000; up from a negligible sum), Jonas Brothers’ “What a Man Gotta Do” (up 166% to 4,000; up from 1,000), Lizzo’s “Truth Hurts” (up 107% to 3,000; up from 1,000), Billie Eilish’s “When the Party’s Over” (up 787% to 2,000 sold; up from a negligible figure), Tanya Tucker’s “Bring My Flowers Now” (up 411% to 2,000; up from a negligible total) and DJ Khaled’s “Higher,” featuring Nipsey Hussle and John Legend (up 9,044% to 1,000; up from a negligible total).
An all-star performance of Lil Nas X’s “Old Town Road” pumped a 217% gain for the tune, as it sold 4,000 downloads the day of the show (up from 1,000 on Jan. 25). On the Grammy Awards, Lil Nas X performed the song (the No. 1 Billboard Hot 100 hit of 2019, after it spent a record 19 weeks at No. 1) with Billy Ray Cyrus, Mason Ramsey, Diplo and BTS -- all of whom have joined Lil Nas X on previously released remixes of “Old Town Road.”
All versions of “Old Town Road” are combined for sales and tracking purposes, so sales figures noted above blend Lil Nas X’s original solo release along with the various remixes featuring Cyrus, Young Thug and Ramsey, Diplo’s remix, and the Seoul Town Road Remix of the track featuring RM of BTS.
Plus, Lewis Capaldi’s “Someone You Loved” -- which was interpolated by Keys in a performance honoring the year in music and nominees -- landed a 248% increase to 5,000 sold, up from 1,000.
Eilish and her brother Finneas were the big winners of the evening, as they took home five Grammy Awards each. Eilish also made history as the first woman, and second artist ever, to win the top four categories: album of the year (for When We All Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go?), record of the year, song of the year (both for “Bad Guy”) and best new artist. In total, Eilish’s catalog of albums and songs sold 15,000 on Jan. 26 – up 109% compared to the 7,000 they sold on Jan. 25.
Eilish’s two albums (When We All Fall Asleep, and Don’t Smile at Me) sold a little more than 2,000 copies on Jan. 26 (up 46% from a little under 2,000 on the day previous), while her songs sold 13,000 downloads (up 127% from 6,000). Isolating just When We All Fall Asleep and “Bad Guy,” they posted gains of 54% (2,000 sold, up from 1,000) and 202% (4,000 sold, up from 1,000), respectively.
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Post by renaboss on Jan 27, 2020 18:15:04 GMT -5
"Godzilla" is good. Catchy.
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