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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on Nov 24, 2020 14:18:42 GMT -5
Ugh lol. Bieber shut up. At least be grateful you got nominated for something as atrocious as Yummy while Blinding Lights, a song of top-notch quality, didn't!
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Post by kcdawg13 on Nov 24, 2020 14:20:56 GMT -5
The Weeknd's snub has to be the biggest I've ever seen, when has an artist this popular ever been shut out this bad? I don't understand. The album and Blinding Lights were huge and they had good critical success as well. Makes no sense why they didn't give him any nominations.
It's difficult when smaller artists don't make the cut but that makes sense, the Grammy's cutting off the biggest act of the year does not. Abel must've pissed someone off at the Recording Academy or something, cuz this makes no goddamn sense.
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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on Nov 24, 2020 14:21:19 GMT -5
Yes, The Weeknd submitted to AOTY, ROTY, SOTY, Pop Solo, Pop Vocal Album, and Pop Duo. This all seems extremely suspicious. Even not knowing what song he submitted to which category, the fact he was left out Pop Album and Pop Song is simply disgusting! Even Ed Sheeran got those two categories. Like..I really don't know HOW the Grammys can redeem themselves from this. The telecast will already have low ratings but these nominations will take them to new lows. I hope The Weeknd doesn't acknowledge this attempted coup by the committee and focus on his Super Bowl performance. f**k them. Blinding Lights was submitted to ROTY, SOTY, Pop Solo. In Your Eyes with Doja Cat was submitted for Pop Duo. But amen, I fully agree with you. There's no way the Grammys can redeem themselves from this.
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Post by vithor on Nov 24, 2020 14:21:33 GMT -5
And then he makes songs complaining about getting bashed by being an ungrateful monster. Dude. Just stfu
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Nov 24, 2020 14:21:37 GMT -5
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Post by ampersand on Nov 24, 2020 14:22:05 GMT -5
He should be taking this up with his team, not the Grammys. He was nominated in the pop categories because that’s where he was submitted lol...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 14:25:48 GMT -5
Bon Iver earned that. How about when Frank Ocean got snubbed by Fun., who nowadays only have like three songs that exist?
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Post by Caviar on Nov 24, 2020 14:27:56 GMT -5
He should be taking this up with his team, not the Grammys. He was nominated in the pop categories because that’s where he was submitted lol... It's possible his team submitted to the R&B categories but the committee rejected them and placed him in Pop by default.
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Post by kacpi on Nov 24, 2020 14:28:55 GMT -5
LMAO I still can't believe Abel didn't get at least one nomination considering that he DOMINATED this year. The only reasonable explanation would be his label not submitting it on his request but I don't know much about the situation. Two hours ago I was so fucking sure he'll get the AOTY/SOTY/ROTY nominations with no problem... So to see Bieber getting 3 nominations for shitty music and whining about his album being classified as pop is frustrating, to say the least.
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Post by starlord on Nov 24, 2020 14:29:02 GMT -5
It would be pretty funny if billie sweeps song of the year & record of the year.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Nov 24, 2020 14:30:35 GMT -5
I remember The Weeknd called out labels earlier this year, something about "nobody profits off black music more than the labels." That could've scared the Grammy voters away. I wouldn't be surprised.
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Post by damita34 on Nov 24, 2020 14:31:13 GMT -5
I'm really happy for Ledisi!
90% of the rest is quite a joke tbh.
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Post by Caviar on Nov 24, 2020 14:32:08 GMT -5
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Post by Enigma. on Nov 24, 2020 14:32:18 GMT -5
I don't think this is a really good example... Bon Iver were/was pretty popular and influential too. But of course she can only speak for herself, so...
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Post by lyhom on Nov 24, 2020 14:35:04 GMT -5
I remember The Weeknd called out labels earlier this year, something about "nobody profits off black music more than the labels." That could've scared the Grammy voters away. I wouldn't be surprised. tbf kanye literally pissed on one of his grammys and still got a nom this year lol
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Post by wavey. on Nov 24, 2020 14:36:11 GMT -5
I'm weak af I forgot that happened. I mean they did give us diverse general noms. We did ask for more POC inclusion. Now whoever they chose is on them, but they are diverse.
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Post by andrebra on Nov 24, 2020 14:37:45 GMT -5
Very confused about Justin... isn’t he responsible for submitting his album where he wants it to go? If he didn’t want to be nominated for pop, then why did he submit it there? Or maybe I’m missing something lol
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Post by Caviar on Nov 24, 2020 14:38:25 GMT -5
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Post by Caviar on Nov 24, 2020 14:41:30 GMT -5
Variety: I have to say I’ve never seen an album get completely shut out of the nominations that was anywhere near as big, both commercially and critically, as The Weeknd’s “After Hours.” How does that happen?Harvey: Y’know, it really just comes down to the voting body that decides. We have eight nomination slots to fill in [the “Big Four” categories: Best Album, Song, Record and New Artist], five in others, and the voters vote for their favorites. It’s really interesting, though. Variety: Is it the same committee voting on all of the top four categories? It is.Harvey: I can understand how he could have been shut out of a genre category — the Pop committee could have said he’s R&B and the R&B committee could have said he’s Pop. But this is unprecedented. Does it put the nominating process into question? Are there plans to revise it? We look at it every year and make tweaks and revisions to the process; we did it this year, last year, we’ll do it next year. And I don’t think this calls it into question, honestly. The process is there so we can continue to monitor excellence. I was in the “core room” this year [which decides the Big Four] and I observed, and the people that were in it are music professionals — they are excellent, at the top of their craft in songwriting and producing, and there are a lot of artists. They were critically listening to every song that came across their desks — or virtual desks — so I don’t think it shows a flaw in the process. I think it’s actually… as you get a nomination, you start to really appreciate the process, where you’re saying, “I really made it through a strenuous and thoughtful process,” to get to who are really the deserving nominees for that given year. Variety: How big is that committee?Harvey: I believe this year was 20 people or so. Variety: Since you were in the room, do you feel that all of the releases got a fair shake?Harvey: Oh absolutely, all the records get the fairest of fair shakes. We listen to all the music — even an album, you’re listening to almost the whole album, it takes I don’t know how many hours. It’s a long, arduous process and people take pride in it. The people in that room care: there’s no agendas in there, there’s no “let’s snub this person” or that person. It’s about. “Let’s try and find excellence.” Also, you have to remember that committee can’t vote on something that’s not there. They get a list of the 20 top vote-getters from the general voting field, and at that point they listen and talk about who to push forward as the final eight. So it’s really a two-step process. Variety: Was The Weeknd on that shortlist?Variety: We never talk about what’s on the shortlist, so I’ll leave it at that.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Nov 24, 2020 14:45:36 GMT -5
Variety: I have to say I’ve never seen an album get completely shut out of the nominations that was anywhere near as big, both commercially and critically, as The Weeknd’s “After Hours.” How does that happen?Harvey: Y’know, it really just comes down to the voting body that decides. We have eight nomination slots to fill in [the “Big Four” categories: Best Album, Song, Record and New Artist], five in others, and the voters vote for their favorites. It’s really interesting, though. Variety: Is it the same committee voting on all of the top four categories? It is.Harvey: I can understand how he could have been shut out of a genre category — the Pop committee could have said he’s R&B and the R&B committee could have said he’s Pop. But this is unprecedented. Does it put the nominating process into question? Are there plans to revise it? We look at it every year and make tweaks and revisions to the process; we did it this year, last year, we’ll do it next year. And I don’t think this calls it into question, honestly. The process is there so we can continue to monitor excellence. I was in the “core room” this year [which decides the Big Four] and I observed, and the people that were in it are music professionals — they are excellent, at the top of their craft in songwriting and producing, and there are a lot of artists. They were critically listening to every song that came across their desks — or virtual desks — so I don’t think it shows a flaw in the process. I think it’s actually… as you get a nomination, you start to really appreciate the process, where you’re saying, “I really made it through a strenuous and thoughtful process,” to get to who are really the deserving nominees for that given year. I love Post Malone to death and I am glad Circles got the love it deserves, however there's no way the Grammy voters/"industry professionals" listened to Hollywood's Bleeding and thought it deserved a nom over After Hours, which is the better album by far.
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Post by kamala 2024 truther on Nov 24, 2020 14:46:32 GMT -5
I'm...so very very confused by this general field. Literally gobsmacked. Speechless (and that's a rare occurrence).
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Post by wavey. on Nov 24, 2020 14:47:17 GMT -5
14887fan are big wig record executives apart of the voting process as well?
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Post by Troublemaker on Nov 24, 2020 14:56:38 GMT -5
This guy should step down, his response is just as stupid as the other guy’s “women need to step up” comment
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Nov 24, 2020 14:56:40 GMT -5
Variety: Was The Weeknd on that shortlist? Harvey: We never talk about what’s on the shortlist, so I’ll leave it at that. leave your job too.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 15:06:01 GMT -5
Not Nicki trying to drag Bon Iver, lol fuck that shit Also Bieber really channeling this same energy again, what a fucktard Also yes the Abel snub is a disaster given that Bieber got nominations, which is just
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Post by fridayteenage on Nov 24, 2020 15:09:08 GMT -5
I could vaguely see if voters were like "well isn't the album just Blinding Lights and...a bunch of other songs we can't remember that aren't BL?"
But, well, BL itself wasn't nominated so I'm stumped.
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Post by RockaByeBaby on Nov 24, 2020 15:12:09 GMT -5
I've always interpreted the Grammys as mostly having a lot to do with connections (and thought everyone did too?) so Abel or a member of his team must've pissed someone off (even if unknowingly or indirectly, in case they're puzzled about this too). I'm pretty sure it's as simple and ridiculous as this. It's also perfectly explained other seemingly odd inclusions over the years so. This year's big omission just happens to be pretty blatantly embarrassing.
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Post by 85la on Nov 24, 2020 15:17:34 GMT -5
I know it's been said a million times already but it bears repeating because it's so egregious, but I'm really shocked at the Weeknd's snubs!! Especially with Blinding Lights, as it is THE biggest hit of the year, and also has high critical acclaim. For highly acclaimed #1 Songs of the year to not get AT LEAST ONE nomination in one category (they usually get a ROTY nomination and often end up winning, such as Rolling in the Deep, Somebody that I Used to Know, Uptown Funk, etc.) is COMPLETELY unprecedented and must be a first.
And I just can't at that Justin comment, absolutely astounding that he's complaining. It would highly behoove him to STFU less he wants to get canceled before the end of the day!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 15:19:15 GMT -5
Blinding Lights is this year's Without Me basically, except BL is even more deserving of those nominations I guess someone who hates Halsey also hates Abel now is in the committee
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Post by Nick on Nov 24, 2020 15:22:21 GMT -5
Beyonce continues to get nominated year after year no matter what she releases. #Overrated
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