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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2021 18:52:08 GMT -5
Yeah, I’ve seen screenshots of BTS stans giving death threats to Lady Gaga and calling her fans the F slur... I know most of them are children but there’s no age at which that is appropriate. I really wish Twitter was 18+ sometimes lol So grammy is racist when they not nominate The Weeknd. But they are not racist when BTS is snubbed when Dynamite was one of the biggest songs last year. Just say you think asians don't deserve anything. Rain on me was aflop that quickly wanished from the charts and did nothing. Plus when will you all stop with this 'oh bts fans are 13 years old'? This is actually the age demographic. And also a lot of trolls now pretend to be armys just to give them a bad name. That's how twitter works. This is eye-roll inducing for a few reasons but most of which because with all the discussion around the Grammys and racism, almost no one here actually claimed The Weeknd's snub as an example of that back when nominations were first announced, and absolutely zero people mentioned his name at all in this thread today. What happened with The Weeknd was clearly due to behind-the-scenes shenanigans that were specific to him. That isn't a race issue there. But even if anyone had accused the Grammys of being racist against The Weeknd, The Grammys has a good six decades of history with overlooking black artists (and women) often. We are able to call that kind of discrimination out quickly because we can spot the pattern when we see it. But K-Pop JUST got here. Like, it's at most a couple of years old in terms of popularity in the US. Sales do not automatically mean major impact, and Dynamite was in a category with multiple Grammy darlings (Lady Gaga, Ariana, Taylor) who were already more favored to win anyway. So BTS losing one non-televised award doesn't actually signify anything yet other than that they are still very much a new phenomenon to most of the US and it's going to take more time for general public awareness about them and their credibility to spread. Someone mentioned k-pop stans having a serious mental health problem but I feel like we need to start small and address the lack of reading comprehension skills first because y'all really and for real just...don't read what other people are saying half the time, and outright make up s**t that wasn't said at all the other half. And it's clearly not a language barrier issue. 95% of the 'hate' on BTS isn't even really on BTS, it's on their trash ass, unhinged fanbase. Go back to your Army friends and tell them that, so maybe by the time they are the adult age you want us to believe most of you already are they will have grown the f**k up and realized that it just is not that deep.
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Post by mamaloveme on Mar 14, 2021 19:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by meg on Mar 14, 2021 19:03:31 GMT -5
So grammy is racist when they not nominate The Weeknd. But they are not racist when BTS is snubbed when Dynamite was one of the biggest songs last year. Just say you think asians don't deserve anything. Rain on me was aflop that quickly wanished from the charts and did nothing. Plus when will you all stop with this 'oh bts fans are 13 years old'? This is actually the age demographic. And also a lot of trolls now pretend to be armys just to give them a bad name. That's how twitter works. But even if anyone had accused the Grammys of being racist against The Weeknd, The Grammys has a good six decades of history with overlooking black artists (and women) often. We are able to call that kind of discrimination out quickly because we can spot the pattern when we see it. But K-Pop JUST got here. Like, it's at most a couple of years old in terms of popularity in the US. Sales do not automatically mean major impact, and Dynamite was in a category with multiple Grammy darlings (Lady Gaga, Ariana, Taylor) who were already more favored to win anyway. So BTS losing one non-televised award doesn't actually signify anything yet other than that they are still very much a new phenomenon to most of the US and it's going to take more time for general public awareness about them and their credibility to spread. Go back to your Army friends and tell them that, so maybe by the time they are the adult age you want us to believe most of you already are they will have grown the f**k up and realized that it just is not that deep. First what BTS has to do with kpop at this point? Kpop is not popular in the west despite heavy mediaplay going on every day. It's just BTS. A band that is korean. They literally has five number #1 albums on BB200, three #1 on hot 100 and they were best selling artists with two best selling albums last year according to IFPI. And they are outselling western artists easly. But you and the industry wants to gatekeeping them so much because they are afraid and they not getting any money because BTS refuse to sign to any american company. This is what all is about. Billie Ellish showed up and two years later got bunch of Grammys. BTS are big in the west for 5 years now. Also I'm an adult. I don't listen only to them. So stop patrionizing me and acknowledge they deserve more that they are given.
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Post by walt91 on Mar 14, 2021 19:05:20 GMT -5
But even if anyone had accused the Grammys of being racist against The Weeknd, The Grammys has a good six decades of history with overlooking black artists (and women) often. We are able to call that kind of discrimination out quickly because we can spot the pattern when we see it. But K-Pop JUST got here. Like, it's at most a couple of years old in terms of popularity in the US. Sales do not automatically mean major impact, and Dynamite was in a category with multiple Grammy darlings (Lady Gaga, Ariana, Taylor) who were already more favored to win anyway. So BTS losing one non-televised award doesn't actually signify anything yet other than that they are still very much a new phenomenon to most of the US and it's going to take more time for general public awareness about them and their credibility to spread. Go back to your Army friends and tell them that, so maybe by the time they are the adult age you want us to believe most of you already are they will have grown the f**k up and realized that it just is not that deep. First what BTS has to do with kpop at this point? Kpop is not popular in the west despite heavy mediaplay going on every day. It's just BTS. A band that is korean. They literally has five number #1 albums on BB200, three #1 on hot 100 and they were best selling artists with two best selling albums last year according to IFPI. And they are outselling western artists easly. But you and the industry wants to gatekeeping them so much because they are afraid and they not getting any money because BTS refuse to sign to any american company. This is what all is about. Billie Ellish showed up and two years later got bunch of Grammys. BTS are big in the west for 5 years now. Also I'm an adult. I don't listen only to them. So stop patrionizing me and acknowledge they deserve more that they are given. BTS are literally a k-pop band... once again, reading comprehension please
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Mar 14, 2021 19:06:06 GMT -5
Let’s not feed the BTS troll plz
So far the show is looking interesting with the setup!
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Post by BDGeek on Mar 14, 2021 19:07:28 GMT -5
Harry's leather dress pants are kinda rad.
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Post by The Music Man on Mar 14, 2021 19:07:37 GMT -5
Harry's tattoos make him the rare breed who looks better with his shirt on than off (see also: Levine, Adam).
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Post by Troublemaker on Mar 14, 2021 19:08:04 GMT -5
Not impressed with Harry’s performance
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Post by wjr15 on Mar 14, 2021 19:09:13 GMT -5
Harry Styles is looking sexy af...lord 🤤🥵
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Post by Ernesto on Mar 14, 2021 19:09:16 GMT -5
I think Harry sang well, the jokes are terrible so far.
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Post by SHOOTER on Mar 14, 2021 19:09:45 GMT -5
Harry up there lookin like a snack.
On another note, what the hell is on Billie’s head? 😩
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Post by Mayman on Mar 14, 2021 19:14:08 GMT -5
I really liked Billie's performance.
I'm liking the setup so far too.
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Post by BDGeek on Mar 14, 2021 19:14:22 GMT -5
This is actually kinda nice without the sluggish pace presenters would normally bring. Just jumping straight from performance to performance.
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Post by wavey. on Mar 14, 2021 19:14:27 GMT -5
Um this concept of them all around each other performing is neat? I actually like it?
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Post by The Music Man on Mar 14, 2021 19:16:17 GMT -5
The Billie performance worked well for me.
The rapid-fire performance format is...interesting. It does feel a little "VH1 Unplugged" to me, but I applaud the creativity given the circumstances.
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Post by wjr15 on Mar 14, 2021 19:16:17 GMT -5
Um this concept of them all around each other performing is neat? I actually like it? Honestly, I wouldn’t mind them keeping this concept for future shows. It’s interesting and I like it.
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Post by thezatch on Mar 14, 2021 19:16:20 GMT -5
I really like the performance setup too! Harry and Billie were great!
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Post by SHOOTER on Mar 14, 2021 19:16:26 GMT -5
Yes, the intimacy of this setup is adding a nice fluidity to the show (obligatory bad host jokes aside). I would not mind this becoming the norm.
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Post by Ernesto on Mar 14, 2021 19:16:32 GMT -5
The Grammy Awards show this year is just like Jools Holland's Annual Hootenanny TV show but with awards then.
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Mar 14, 2021 19:17:00 GMT -5
That one girl was like a little Alanis
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Post by Envoirment on Mar 14, 2021 19:17:09 GMT -5
Congratulations to Lady Gaga & Ariana! So happy to see "Rain On Me" win a grammy.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Mar 14, 2021 19:17:09 GMT -5
It looks like a variety hour show 🥴
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2021 19:17:44 GMT -5
But even if anyone had accused the Grammys of being racist against The Weeknd, The Grammys has a good six decades of history with overlooking black artists (and women) often. We are able to call that kind of discrimination out quickly because we can spot the pattern when we see it. But K-Pop JUST got here. Like, it's at most a couple of years old in terms of popularity in the US. Sales do not automatically mean major impact, and Dynamite was in a category with multiple Grammy darlings (Lady Gaga, Ariana, Taylor) who were already more favored to win anyway. So BTS losing one non-televised award doesn't actually signify anything yet other than that they are still very much a new phenomenon to most of the US and it's going to take more time for general public awareness about them and their credibility to spread. Go back to your Army friends and tell them that, so maybe by the time they are the adult age you want us to believe most of you already are they will have grown the f**k up and realized that it just is not that deep. First what BTS has to do with kpop at this point? Kpop is not popular in the west despite heavy mediaplay going on every day. It's just BTS. A band that is korean. They literally has five number #1 albums on BB200, three #1 on hot 100 and they were best selling artists with two best selling albums last year according to IFPI. And they are outselling western artists easly. But you and the industry wants to gatekeeping them so much because they are afraid and they not getting any money because BTS refuse to sign to any american company. This is what all is about. Billie Ellish showed up and two years later got bunch of Grammys. BTS are big in the west for 5 years now. Also I'm an adult. I don't listen only to them. So stop patrionizing me and acknowledge they deserve more that they are given. um, because BTS is a k-pop group? And most of the US audience doesn't know much, if anything, about k-pop music. So add 2+2: most of the US audience also do not know much, if anything, about BTS, a k-pop group. That audience includes Grammy voters. Why would you expect them to vote for something they know nothing about? So in that context, BTS got exactly what they deserved, a nomination. If you care that much about the show, then you should recognize that a nomination is still recognition and for them to get that when awareness of them is still pretty small is a big deal on its own. Wins could come in the future. I didn't specifically say YOU weren't an adult, nor did I say you only listen to BTS or even that you only listen to k-pop. So again, let's work on that reading comprehension. I'm not being patronizing either, because that would imply that I was at least being (insincerely) polite about it. So maybe also invest in a dictionary because believe me, I'm not at all trying to be nice to you right now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2021 19:18:23 GMT -5
Let’s not feed the BTS troll plz So far the show is looking interesting with the setup! sorry you're right I shall move on now!
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Post by surfy on Mar 14, 2021 19:19:35 GMT -5
cynthia’s reads are bringing me out of hibernation
also: optimistic about this ceremony, i’ve enjoyed it so far!
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Mar 14, 2021 19:21:12 GMT -5
Let’s not feed the BTS troll plz So far the show is looking interesting with the setup! sorry you're right I shall move on now! ❤️ Oh. no, you can sit them down when they need to be sat.
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Post by wavey. on Mar 14, 2021 19:22:03 GMT -5
Lizzo look bomb. YES Megan!
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Post by wjr15 on Mar 14, 2021 19:23:22 GMT -5
I need new Lizzo music. It’s been way too long. She needs to strike while the iron is hot.
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Post by Philippe on Mar 14, 2021 19:23:25 GMT -5
Are we really having a conversation about BTS?
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Post by SHOOTER on Mar 14, 2021 19:23:45 GMT -5
Lizzo still make music or nah?
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