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Post by taylor on Apr 19, 2020 18:54:19 GMT -5
Not quoting Mylo because it's such a large post but to respond to the part of first time playing...that's partly why I haven't said as much, because I'm new and trying to figure out how everything goes as the thread progresses and have genuinely felt at times like there was nothing I could add to the discussion.
That said, imma go ahead and say I do get a lot of Town vibes from Zeebz and Max so far, and Lukas' absence is starting to stand out more and more. I understand being busy and not being able to follow along as often (out of game I have finals coming up next week and this is my last week before finals starting tomorrow and I need to catch up a bit) but he hasn't even checked in since his last post over 24 hours ago.
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Post by Mylo13 đź’ś on Apr 19, 2020 18:58:24 GMT -5
Lukas has got an unfortunate habit of being absent from things lol. He's not a bad day one lynch and I understand the desire to lynch him but I don't find his absence scum-indicative.
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Post by Koochie on Apr 19, 2020 19:01:34 GMT -5
unvote: Lukas
Zeebz makes a good point that he just hasn’t been on, but I still think lack of engagement is bad. If he’s not here then he’s likely not fulfilling obligations to communicate with a partner elsewhere though. (Although this kinda breaks rules since we’re not supposed to use extra-game information but point stands).
I maintain that Gabe is town. Under no circumstances would scum be told “your actions are bad for town and scummy” and then continue to dig their heels in. It’s... bad play, don’t get me wrong, but that’s as far as that goes.
I think Mylo is town? He’s making an honest effort and backing up his positions, and although I think he’s like totally off the mark with all of them his posts seem genuine enough. Relative to what my comment about putting us back in RVS means, idk why you’re saying I’ve done nothing for town when I was quite literally the player that got us to pivot to where we are now, which is actual gameplay. I’m not sure what you would have me do to “town it up” besides play the game. Am I not doing that?
Speaking of, I keep coming back to Coco lol. Like everything just feels so... noncommittal. Few votes, only targeted the weak one, offered minimal input on the power role, gave a limp reason for why she doesn’t want to say how she feels about players (“my instincts are usually wrong” girl they really aren’t), but she keeps harping on Gabe for not really saying his peace either? I get she’s said more than he has, but I don’t see much substance.
Zeebz is giving me town vibes for now. Seems to be moving things along.
Nothing on Lukas because hello not here. Honestly same with nick. He’s been here enough, but just to talk about the basics. What he’s saying makes sense when he posts though, but I want to look into him more as the game goes on.
Max... I dunno. Max is a player I struggle to figure out, like ever, and there was a post earlier where one minute he says no lynch isn’t a bad idea but then says he understands why it is a bad idea and that to me just feels like a colossal failure to commit to anything.
Carrie is still like, you’re new but something still feels odd about it. I almost feel like the fact that I’ve had a vote on her for laying it on thick and her not engaging is weird too? Like you’d think a new player would at least try to defend themselves but... huh. I’ll give it time but I’m confused with this one.
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Post by gabe on Apr 19, 2020 19:06:44 GMT -5
yall better start leaning to savor my words if you want to hear from me so bad. i've made it clear that i think the people pushing to lynch someone who showed no reason to be sus are sus. I don't necessarily think you're being unreasonable but we still need something to go off and I don't think it's unreasonable for us to at least aim toward a lynch even though there's no hard evidence. I think you're take of essentially doing nothing and waiting for something to happen is doing nobody (including yourself) any favours. At the very least, ask questions, generate discussion. Here's one for you: What do you think could be learned by a night kill? Let's say we go your route and lynch nobody for Day 1. So then Day 2 begins, and we have the results of the night 1 kill. What's the first thing you as a player would do with those results? Or what would you suggest us all to do with those results? maybe i'm just bringing a different strategy to this? i'm a huge town of salem player which is obviously very similar to mafia. from my hundreds if not thousands of games, i've learned that random lynching more than often favors mafia, and that the people who push people for no reason are trying to deflect suspicion off themselves. as opposed to lynching someone right now, a night kill would at least generate some real suspicion because that's something that would actually happen. right now this is just 9 people randomly accusing each other without anything in this game having happened. that's why i'm still standing behind my opinion that random lynching (call it what you want at this point, but it's truly nothing more than random suspicion being thrown around, thus the lynch is essentially random) will be bad. but, i haven't really played these before (not counting mylo's because i was a sub and just super confused), so maybe random lynching is the way to go. i just can't imagine that it would benefit us a ton. that's why I'm partially suspicious of Mylo because right out of the gate he threw a vote down without any real discussion. people like to kind of piggyback on what's going on, so by throwing out the first vote he knows that people might just follow his lead. and that to me screams trying to get suspicion off of himself
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Post by Mylo13 đź’ś on Apr 19, 2020 19:09:41 GMT -5
Wait missed this. Where is this coming from? You said prior to that you had no opinion on him and then when pressed by Zeebs you randomly threw this out here 👀👀 we arent in the jokey stage anymore so this is as f**ked up as Lukas random vote. Explain?? Ie anything he has done or said? I think Carrie calling you preppy was flimsy and now you voting out the blue for Kunt because he is different seems flimsy. From what I've seen he is his usual aggressive self and could lean either way honestly. But I realize nobody has extremely strong reasons but yours seem especially flimsy this game so far. Not FOS yet but I need to know more into the line of thinking. By no means am I defending Kunt either I have zero read on him. Nil Likewise, in regards to Coco’s above post, I missed Mylo’s post regarding Kunt, but upon further inspection it appears that he apparently said this: Sidenote: holy hell that was a world wall initially lol mylo, I would love some explanation regarding this? Are there specific examples of Kunt not feeling energetic or less clearly Town? I’m not sure how a lack of readability automatically correlates with him being scum, but any insight you have would be appreciated! Unfortunately I don't have any great examples as to why I'm feeling most suspicious of The House. In general, the first game I played with him by day two I was pretty confident he was town and last game I felt like it was pretty clear he was town. When I have more time one of you should force me to get specific examples from previous games but stuff like this: I’d still like to hear from Max as well tbh vote: CarrieIdk, something about the way she’s playing just seems like she’s trying too hard to play up the “I’m new” card. I do like what Coco is saying now, though, and agree that Lukas’ conduct has been... not great at best. Feels very weak to me. Maybe he's just not feeling himself but nothing about this seems as firm as he was in previous games. There's no push, and no real evidence these are his thoughts if that makes sense. It's not clear he actually believes in what he is saying which is an immediate red flag to me. Normally something like this wouldn't be a notable thing but I honestly am not particularly suspicious of too many people here so The House's lack of conviction stands out to me as a possible mafia trait. If he's town I'd want to see posts where he's taking a stance that feels genuine and not something that could be EASILY fabricated by The House!Scum. That's my main problem actually, there's nothing I've seen from him that doesn't make complete sense as The House!Scum.
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Post by Mylo13 đź’ś on Apr 19, 2020 19:12:37 GMT -5
vote: Lukas I want to hear more out of them. Still FOS Carrie, but something really should be said by now. That also applies for Gabe. Now that we’ve gotten the call rolling, I can’t imagine there’s literally nothing to contribute. I’d like to ask a question for everyone too: how do we think town could most effectively use the power rolls? That’s something we’ve all kind of glossed over, but right now who would the cop most benefit from investigating tonight? The other role seems useful for stalling, but maybe there’s some utility there. Noticed this while going through and I'd say my personal belief is someone who is active but not necessarily townread. I think someone mentioned going for an unclear role like Gabe/Lukas but I think those two are going to be more easily identifiable later and someone like Nick, TH or even me would be a better cop as they're less likely to be killed but more likely to be helpful in future as town/a good lynch as mafia
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Post by Koochie on Apr 19, 2020 19:22:19 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2020 19:25:04 GMT -5
unvote: Lukas Zeebz makes a good point that he just hasn’t been on, but I still think lack of engagement is bad. If he’s not here then he’s likely not fulfilling obligations to communicate with a partner elsewhere though. (Although this kinda breaks rules since we’re not supposed to use extra-game information but point stands). I maintain that Gabe is town. Under no circumstances would scum be told “your actions are bad for town and scummy” and then continue to dig their heels in. It’s... bad play, don’t get me wrong, but that’s as far as that goes. I think Mylo is town? He’s making an honest effort and backing up his positions, and although I think he’s like totally off the mark with all of them his posts seem genuine enough. Relative to what my comment about putting us back in RVS means, idk why you’re saying I’ve done nothing for town when I was quite literally the player that got us to pivot to where we are now, which is actual gameplay. I’m not sure what you would have me do to “town it up” besides play the game. Am I not doing that? Speaking of, I keep coming back to Coco lol. Like everything just feels so... noncommittal. Few votes, only targeted the weak one, offered minimal input on the power role, gave a limp reason for why she doesn’t want to say how she feels about players (“my instincts are usually wrong” girl they really aren’t), but she keeps harping on Gabe for not really saying his peace either? I get she’s said more than he has, but I don’t see much substance. Zeebz is giving me town vibes for now. Seems to be moving things along. Nothing on Lukas because hello not here. Honestly same with nick. He’s been here enough, but just to talk about the basics. What he’s saying makes sense when he posts though, but I want to look into him more as the game goes on. Max... I dunno. Max is a player I struggle to figure out, like ever, and there was a post earlier where one minute he says no lynch isn’t a bad idea but then says he understands why it is a bad idea and that to me just feels like a colossal failure to commit to anything. Carrie is still like, you’re new but something still feels odd about it. I almost feel like the fact that I’ve had a vote on her for laying it on thick and her not engaging is weird too? Like you’d think a new player would at least try to defend themselves but... huh. I’ll give it time but I’m confused with this one. vote: Coco You're zeroed in on me but I did say "Mostly got it wrong until later on" i usually bulldoze early make wrong assumptions and then later on get it right. I dont think I've been non committal but I've been measured. I know who I want to vote out but I'm giving him an opportunity to speak. Just like Mylo and Max spoke and I have more info. I think my line of reasoning is solid. If there isnt too much to go off yet I'm going off the playbook I'd rather lose a player who isnt playing. But I'm in zero rush. Comparing my post to Gabe wont comment lol that is subjective. I feel like I've been as detailed as any other player here.
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Post by Mylo13 đź’ś on Apr 19, 2020 19:30:26 GMT -5
unvote: Lukas Zeebz makes a good point that he just hasn’t been on, but I still think lack of engagement is bad. If he’s not here then he’s likely not fulfilling obligations to communicate with a partner elsewhere though. (Although this kinda breaks rules since we’re not supposed to use extra-game information but point stands). I maintain that Gabe is town. Under no circumstances would scum be told “your actions are bad for town and scummy” and then continue to dig their heels in. It’s... bad play, don’t get me wrong, but that’s as far as that goes. I think Mylo is town? He’s making an honest effort and backing up his positions, and although I think he’s like totally off the mark with all of them his posts seem genuine enough. Relative to what my comment about putting us back in RVS means, idk why you’re saying I’ve done nothing for town when I was quite literally the player that got us to pivot to where we are now, which is actual gameplay. I’m not sure what you would have me do to “town it up” besides play the game. Am I not doing that? Speaking of, I keep coming back to Coco lol. Like everything just feels so... noncommittal. Few votes, only targeted the weak one, offered minimal input on the power role, gave a limp reason for why she doesn’t want to say how she feels about players (“my instincts are usually wrong” girl they really aren’t), but she keeps harping on Gabe for not really saying his peace either? I get she’s said more than he has, but I don’t see much substance. Zeebz is giving me town vibes for now. Seems to be moving things along. Nothing on Lukas because hello not here. Honestly same with nick. He’s been here enough, but just to talk about the basics. What he’s saying makes sense when he posts though, but I want to look into him more as the game goes on. Max... I dunno. Max is a player I struggle to figure out, like ever, and there was a post earlier where one minute he says no lynch isn’t a bad idea but then says he understands why it is a bad idea and that to me just feels like a colossal failure to commit to anything. Carrie is still like, you’re new but something still feels odd about it. I almost feel like the fact that I’ve had a vote on her for laying it on thick and her not engaging is weird too? Like you’d think a new player would at least try to defend themselves but... huh. I’ll give it time but I’m confused with this one. vote: Coco I probably missed when you thought Gabe is town but I'm happy to see people exercise the possibility. Their next post below is starting to make me properly lean town on them. Also your 'out of RVS' thing was uh not like the biggest thing ever imo. I'm glad it was something but it was just two lines of thoughts that gabe expanded on to really take us out of RVS haha. I think I've said what I meant by town it up a few times but if you're town I want to see more from you that makes me believe you mean what you say. I do appreciate the Coco take though, it's less of a conventional one and does definitely get closer to what I wanted from you. I don't necessarily think you're being unreasonable but we still need something to go off and I don't think it's unreasonable for us to at least aim toward a lynch even though there's no hard evidence. I think you're take of essentially doing nothing and waiting for something to happen is doing nobody (including yourself) any favours. At the very least, ask questions, generate discussion. Here's one for you: What do you think could be learned by a night kill? Let's say we go your route and lynch nobody for Day 1. So then Day 2 begins, and we have the results of the night 1 kill. What's the first thing you as a player would do with those results? Or what would you suggest us all to do with those results? maybe i'm just bringing a different strategy to this? i'm a huge town of salem player which is obviously very similar to mafia. from my hundreds if not thousands of games, i've learned that random lynching more than often favors mafia, and that the people who push people for no reason are trying to deflect suspicion off themselves. as opposed to lynching someone right now, a night kill would at least generate some real suspicion because that's something that would actually happen. right now this is just 9 people randomly accusing each other without anything in this game having happened. that's why i'm still standing behind my opinion that random lynching (call it what you want at this point, but it's truly nothing more than random suspicion being thrown around, thus the lynch is essentially random) will be bad. but, i haven't really played these before (not counting mylo's because i was a sub and just super confused), so maybe random lynching is the way to go. i just can't imagine that it would benefit us a ton. that's why I'm partially suspicious of Mylo because right out of the gate he threw a vote down without any real discussion. people like to kind of piggyback on what's going on, so by throwing out the first vote he knows that people might just follow his lead. and that to me screams trying to get suspicion off of himself WHO CALLED IT!? I had a suspicious you were from ToS lol, the no lynching thing just felt so indicative of that. Definitely brings you up a notch and I like the first two paragraphs of this post. Although the term 'random lynching' is not one I'm a fan of whatsoever, we never lynch randomly lol. Not sure what you're referring to about me throwing a vote down without any real discussion? If you're talking about the Coco original vote, that is literally just what Pulse Mafia tends to begin with and I'd strongly urge against finding anyone suspicious just for voting in the 'random voting stage' lol. You could definitely find something tonally wrong or the vote confusing but voting at the beginning is typically accepted as a good way to start discussion. I don't think that's really worth finding someone suspicious over sorry.
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Post by Lukas on Apr 19, 2020 19:31:29 GMT -5
Yeah I’ve been busy for the last many hours. I originally voted Mylo because he kept randomly listing people to lynch which felt like a mafia thing to do more than anything else, to me.
I’m going to Vote: Gabe because although he did bring up a good point about not lynching people at first, the fact that he seemed weirdly dismissive about the opposing perspectives otherwise (especially when replying to Nick) does give me mafia vibes. Obviously this is not a definite or even close to definite conclusion but this is what I will go with for now also because even after skimming through this thread I’m unsure about the status of anyone else. If interesting stuff happens within the next day then maybe I’ll change my vote.
I think that the cop should just go off of who they think is the most suspicious person here; that usually sees more success for the majority of us than trying to “manipulate” who to pick (at least from my prior experiences with this game).
If I’m not mistaken, I believe that the other special role is used for saving someone from getting night killed. Assuming we lynch someone today this means that there is a 1/8 chance that no one will get killed during the night.
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Post by Mylo13 đź’ś on Apr 19, 2020 19:35:21 GMT -5
How am I not being genuine It's as simple as I don't feel like you believe in what you're saying. I'm not getting Oh The House is considering his thoughts and trying to determine who is most likely mafia I'm getting Oh The House is thinking of what sounds or appears towny to say and not really feeling his posts. I'm totally open to the possibility I'm reading too much into this lol, I'm a literature student and I'm taught to just dig deep into everything I read. But I'm struggling to really picture you, as town, writing the way that you are. It kinda comes back to the point I made about Nick earlier, mafia have a reason to look more polished and fancier than town. You're being more controlled and contained then I expect you to do as town.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2020 19:37:41 GMT -5
That has me more confused than ever on Lukas.
I'm going to have to go with Kunt. Not because he voted me but because he keeps misconstruing what I said or putting words in my word..I feel like it's too early to be doing that so it feels on purpose. I'm mostly also tad suspicious of Mylo and him and cant put my finger on it but it almost seems like a link? Could be wrong but
Vote Kunt
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Post by Mylo13 đź’ś on Apr 19, 2020 19:37:48 GMT -5
That's a fine post from Lukas even if I'm not sold on Gabe!Mafia. Lukas I'd recommend continuing to discuss though, perhaps find some posts by gabe you found suspicious or posts by people you think are likely town and explain why? The more interactions you have, the better it helps us
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Post by Mylo13 đź’ś on Apr 19, 2020 19:39:08 GMT -5
That has me more confused than ever on Lukas. I'm going to have to go with Kunt. Not because he voted me but because he keeps misconstruing what I said or putting words in my word..I feel like it's too early to be doing that so it feels on purpose. I'm mostly also tad suspicious of Mylo and him and cant put my finger on it but it almost seems like a link? Could be wrong but Vote Kunt Right as I'm starting to be suspicious of The House and want votes his way you put down a weak and kinda suspicious vote? What has he even done to put words in your word mouth?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2020 19:42:57 GMT -5
I'm suspicious of you too.
But first it was the joke he pulled out from Selena Gomez stage. Then it's how he glossed over all the posts I've detailed my feelings and compared it to Gabe who basically said " eff off"
Now that Lukas has posted. I just feel like kunt is grasping at straws at my direction. If it was as helpful town he wouldn't create a narrative.
The only other person I'd like to hear from is nick
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2020 19:46:34 GMT -5
That has me more confused than ever on Lukas. I'm going to have to go with Kunt. Not because he voted me but because he keeps misconstruing what I said or putting words in my word..I feel like it's too early to be doing that so it feels on purpose. I'm mostly also tad suspicious of Mylo and him and cant put my finger on it but it almost seems like a link? Could be wrong but Vote Kunt  Right as I'm starting to be suspicious of The House and want votes his way you put down a weak and kinda suspicious vote? What has he even done to put words in your word mouth? Why do you want votes his way?
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Post by Mylo13 đź’ś on Apr 19, 2020 19:53:17 GMT -5
I'm suspicious of you too. But first it was the joke he pulled out from Selena Gomez stage. Then it's how he glossed over all the posts I've detailed my feelings and compared it to Gabe who basically said " eff off" Now that Lukas has posted. I just feel like kunt is grasping at straws at my direction. If it was as helpful town he wouldn't create a narrative. The only other person I'd like to hear from is nick Thanks Coco <3 I believe The Houses' issue with your posting was the lack of commital. He notes your other posts but says it wasn't of much substance, which isn't really putting words in your mouth lol. In a sense I agree lol but I think your effort is genuine enough to cover for it. Right as I'm starting to be suspicious of The House and want votes his way you put down a weak and kinda suspicious vote? What has he even done to put words in your word mouth? Why do you want votes his way? Because I think he's the most likely person to be mafia right now? It also would be resassuring that no, I'm not just looking too deep into this and that other people also find them suspicious too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2020 19:53:52 GMT -5
I'm not voting for zeebs or max they seem helpful so far
I cant vote for Nick64 because I'm not sure of him yet.
Carrie and Gabe give me newer vibes and outside of Gabes tone and refusal to address things he hasnt done much.
Lukas would be the wise choice but his last post was better and he only has 2 posts. Still fos.
Kunt and Mylo I have the least good vibes along with lukas. So my vote as of now will be one of the 3.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2020 20:02:28 GMT -5
I'm suspicious of you too. But first it was the joke he pulled out from Selena Gomez stage. Then it's how he glossed over all the posts I've detailed my feelings and compared it to Gabe who basically said " eff off" Now that Lukas has posted. I just feel like kunt is grasping at straws at my direction. If it was as helpful town he wouldn't create a narrative. The only other person I'd like to hear from is nick Thanks Coco <3 I believe The Houses' issue with your posting was the lack of commital. He notes your other posts but says it wasn't of much substance, which isn't really putting words in your mouth lol. In a sense I agree lol but I think your effort is genuine enough to cover for it. Why do you want votes his way? Because I think he's the most likely person to be mafia right now? It also would be resassuring that no, I'm not just looking too deep into this and that other people also find them suspicious too. Well for whatever it's worth I dont think you have much substance either lol Which is why initially I was thrown off when you signalled him out hence why I asked questions. I cant tell if its distancing or if it's what you a believe but something is just rubbing me wrong way . Just not enough to vote definitely.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2020 20:04:15 GMT -5
*singled
I just dont think either of you has spent time looking at others and made up your minds quickly with zero info. You on him and him on me . So ...
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Post by Koochie on Apr 19, 2020 20:04:55 GMT -5
I literally have no defense for this because I’m still not sure why I’m suspicious lol
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2020 20:10:21 GMT -5
I literally have no defense for this because I’m still not sure why I’m suspicious lol You're not my final vote but I'm putting it on you because I want to understand why now twice (first was Selena gomez) joke and second implying I havent given reasons and was limp. It seems intentionally leading and I just want a better answer to understand you cause I had zero read on you and you're a wildcard along with Mylo and possibly nick64 and Lukas.
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Post by Koochie on Apr 19, 2020 20:10:46 GMT -5
*singled I just dont think either of you has spent time looking at others and made up your minds quickly with zero info. You on him and him on me . So ... I literally posted my thoughts on all of the players above. You said it yourself, we have next to no info to go on right now, you just strike me as the most suspicious because I know Coco and something seems odd. It’s a compliment sweetie! You’re also not the only person I expressed suspicions of. Max is raising my eyebrow and Carrie is sus for reasons I outlined. I’d also like to hear from nick more since he’s got a lot to catch up on.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2020 20:12:00 GMT -5
Ok that's fine for now!
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Post by Koochie on Apr 19, 2020 20:15:33 GMT -5
I literally have no defense for this because I’m still not sure why I’m suspicious lol You're not my final vote but I'm putting it on you because I want to understand why now twice (first was Selena gomez) joke and second implying I havent given reasons and was limp. It seems intentionally leading and I just want a better answer to understand you cause I had zero read on you and you're a wildcard along with Mylo and possibly nick64 and Lukas. I’ve explained the Selena thing idk how many times, I don’t think I can better explain it other than if you didn’t like where the conversation was going a more proactive town player would shift gears instead of being complacent. If that was just jokey, I didn’t interpret it as such. Otherwise you haven’t been consistent with keeping votes down, you’ve pressured Gabe for not posting but that’s not a Coco exclusive, you cast a vote for Lukas then unvoted once he got close because... idk? If the goal is to get him to talk, alleviating pressure isn’t it. Otherwise a lot of your reads have been “lol idk could go either way”. At the very least, players like myself and Mylo (now Lukas) have taken hard stances on players with statements and votes. Even here you’re like well I think it’s you but idk!!! Having said that though I want to point out that Gabe saying “oh hey Mylo is sus” but not actually laying a vote down is weird now that I read back, for similar reasons.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2020 20:20:52 GMT -5
Well to be honest my vote wasnt going to stay on you. I wanted to see how you responded but more importantly how Mylo responded.
Lukas is a lazy vote. I wanted to hear from him but I'm not sold either way.
If not knowing where to place it makes me nonchalant then that's what I'm but I dont have a strong lead I have a few suspicions posts that I've noted and maybe a link I wanted to look at.
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Post by Zeebz on Apr 19, 2020 20:31:11 GMT -5
Well damn, I've missed a lot.
First and foremost, it is nice to finally hear from Lukas. I does help to see where he stands, although I don't know how I feel about the "Gabe is scum" wagon/the justification that he provides. While Gabe had some resistance with diving into the discussion further, I also do not think that directly implies that he is scum. As mentioned previously, it just seems like a strange strategy for the Mafia team to allow the behavior to continue and let him keep coming under fire. I do wish to hear more from Lukas going forward, but I am not as immediately suspicious now that we have some clarification. For now, Unvote: Lukas.
Speaking of Gabe, it is nice to have some justification behind why he advocated for a No Lynch scenario in the first place. While I do not agree that a No Lynch scenario is the way to go at this point, I understand his reasoning and it slightly inclines me to think that he is Town? Seems to not want to push for a random lynch whereas I feel like someone who is scum would continue to advocate for a random lynch.
Mylo's justification of his Kunt suspicion seems.. kind of like a reach? I see where you're coming from with your tone argument, but I'm not getting those vibes at this moment. Kunt's posts read pretty much like they always do, so I am not getting the lack of conviction argument that you're trying to sell. You also mention that you "like his Coco take because it is not conventional and more of what you expect from him" which confuses me a bit? So just because he went for a Coco scum angle that would be enough to justify him as leaning more Town? How do we judge what is a conventional take versus what isn't? Proposing a lynch scenario that nobody has proposed so far, while seeming Town, is not necessarily an indication that someone is or is not Town. I am still not sure if Kunt is Town or not, but to say definitively that he is or is not just based on the takes he makes seems odd. Maybe I've missed something, idk.
It just seems like you're looking for a reason to find him suspicious, which while we do need to keep considering everyone as potentially so, this hard push towards him doesn't make as much sense in this moment. Definite FoS on Mylo.
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Post by gabe on Apr 19, 2020 20:34:25 GMT -5
blah blah maybe i'm just bringing a different strategy to this? i'm a huge town of salem player which is obviously very similar to mafia. from my hundreds if not thousands of games, i've learned that random lynching more than often favors mafia, and that the people who push people for no reason are trying to deflect suspicion off themselves. as opposed to lynching someone right now, a night kill would at least generate some real suspicion because that's something that would actually happen. right now this is just 9 people randomly accusing each other without anything in this game having happened. that's why i'm still standing behind my opinion that random lynching (call it what you want at this point, but it's truly nothing more than random suspicion being thrown around, thus the lynch is essentially random) will be bad. but, i haven't really played these before (not counting mylo's because i was a sub and just super confused), so maybe random lynching is the way to go. i just can't imagine that it would benefit us a ton. that's why I'm partially suspicious of Mylo because right out of the gate he threw a vote down without any real discussion. people like to kind of piggyback on what's going on, so by throwing out the first vote he knows that people might just follow his lead. and that to me screams trying to get suspicion off of himself WHO CALLED IT!? I had a suspicious you were from ToS lol, the no lynching thing just felt so indicative of that. Definitely brings you up a notch and I like the first two paragraphs of this post. Although the term 'random lynching' is not one I'm a fan of whatsoever, we never lynch randomly lol. Not sure what you're referring to about me throwing a vote down without any real discussion? If you're talking about the Coco original vote, that is literally just what Pulse Mafia tends to begin with and I'd strongly urge against finding anyone suspicious just for voting in the 'random voting stage' lol. You could definitely find something tonally wrong or the vote confusing but voting at the beginning is typically accepted as a good way to start discussion. I don't think that's really worth finding someone suspicious over sorry. yeah i'm a ToS player lmao so going into this game that's kind of the strategy I was bringing but it looks like I'll have to change it up and adapt to the strategy of a game like this! also i'll be responding to another post in a second but idk how to quote two separate posts in one
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Post by Zeebz on Apr 19, 2020 20:37:08 GMT -5
gabe I know you’re making a separate post, but just in case it’s helpful: To quote multiple posts in one, click on the gear icon that is above each post. There should be an option to “Select Post”, which you can do for several posts. Select each post that you want to quote and on the final post that you’ve selected quote that one as normal. This will show all of the posts that you selected in one.
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Post by gabe on Apr 19, 2020 20:40:08 GMT -5
Yeah I’ve been busy for the last many hours. I originally voted Mylo because he kept randomly listing people to lynch which felt like a mafia thing to do more than anything else, to me. I’m going to Vote: Gabe because although he did bring up a good point about not lynching people at first, the fact that he seemed weirdly dismissive about the opposing perspectives otherwise (especially when replying to Nick) does give me mafia vibes. Obviously this is not a definite or even close to definite conclusion but this is what I will go with for now also because even after skimming through this thread I’m unsure about the status of anyone else. If interesting stuff happens within the next day then maybe I’ll change my vote. I think that the cop should just go off of who they think is the most suspicious person here; that usually sees more success for the majority of us than trying to “manipulate” who to pick (at least from my prior experiences with this game). If I’m not mistaken, I believe that the other special role is used for saving someone from getting night killed. Assuming we lynch someone today this means that there is a 1/8 chance that no one will get killed during the night. I'm finding it a little... interesting.. how you don't like my idea that there's a 7/9 chance we mis-lynch today (fine, if you don't like that idea, whatever) but then you feel comfortable mis-lynching someone today and then someone probably dying during the night (1/8 isn't even right, 8 would include mafia, so 1/6 chance nobody gets killed). You are willing to accept a mis-lynch today and then a 5/6 chance of town dying during the night, but not willing to reject a random lynch today that would likely result in a town death. So, with that being said, I'm comfortable voting you up today. Vote: Lukas
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