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Post by GP on May 8, 2020 6:16:35 GMT -5
Stuck With U is alright, it's enjoyable. Serves it's purpose.
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Post by annoymous1 on May 8, 2020 6:54:54 GMT -5
A #1 Debut for Stuck With U is very much possible it could happen the song is okay so I wouldn't mind if it happen. I think Say So best chance for a #1 is the 5/16 Chart week competing with savage.
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Post by thegreatdivine on May 8, 2020 7:18:06 GMT -5
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Post by 85la on May 8, 2020 8:01:12 GMT -5
I have a question with these physical/digital single bundles. Does it count twice towards the charts? One for the digital download and once for the physical version? If yes, sorry but that would be outright fraud/chart manipulation.
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Post by Mayman on May 8, 2020 8:03:24 GMT -5
I have a question with these physical/digital single bundles. Does it count twice towards the charts? One for the digital download and once for the physical version? If yes, sorry but that would be outright fraud/chart manipulation. I'm pretty sure it only counts once. I think what counts is the digital download because physical singles don't count towards the Hot 100 anymore. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on May 8, 2020 8:04:05 GMT -5
I have a question with these physical/digital single bundles. Does it count twice towards the charts? One for the digital download and once for the physical version? If yes, sorry but that would be outright fraud/chart manipulation. Why are you sorry? |
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Post by chartfreak on May 8, 2020 8:04:38 GMT -5
I have a question with these physical/digital single bundles. Does it count twice towards the charts? One for the digital download and once for the physical version? If yes, sorry but that would be outright fraud/chart manipulation. What's the difference when back in the 90's some of us bought the cassette single and cd single? |
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Post by chartfreak on May 8, 2020 8:05:29 GMT -5
I have a question with these physical/digital single bundles. Does it count twice towards the charts? One for the digital download and once for the physical version? If yes, sorry but that would be outright fraud/chart manipulation. I'm pretty sure it only counts once. I think what counts is the digital download because physical singles don't count towards the Hot 100 anymore. Wait...what...physicals don't count anymore? |
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Post by Mayman on May 8, 2020 8:07:14 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure it only counts once. I think what counts is the digital download because physical singles don't count towards the Hot 100 anymore. Wait...what...physicals don't count anymore? I'm pretty sure they don't considering they don't track them anymore, plus this article from 2017 says they don't: indiehitmaker.com/ihm_news/billboard-cancels-hot-singles-sales-chart/ |
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Post by GP on May 8, 2020 8:09:20 GMT -5
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on May 8, 2020 8:11:23 GMT -5
wow
7 versions in the top 100.
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Post by 85la on May 8, 2020 8:30:51 GMT -5
I have a question with these physical/digital single bundles. Does it count twice towards the charts? One for the digital download and once for the physical version? If yes, sorry but that would be outright fraud/chart manipulation. What's the difference when back in the 90's some of us bought the cassette single and cd single? Because with that the consumer would have to exercise the additional choice of buying a second format of the record that would cost more money. In this case, at least what the options displayed in the previous post shows, there's no choice to buy one of the physical products alone at a lower cost without the digital single, thus the digital single is counted at no extra cost whether the consumer wants it or not. Doesn't Billboard have a rule about this concerning the album chart, that with an album bundled together with merchandise, both items have to also be available separately, and at a lower cost than the bundle? In regards to the Hot 100 Singles chart being canceled, that's true, but I would think physical sales still count toward the Hot 100? But in the case of these bundles for Stuck With U, it should really only count once, either as a digital download or a physical single |
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Post by tuna on May 8, 2020 8:40:49 GMT -5
I can’t believe we’re letting Issues by Julia Michaels go #1 in 2020
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Post by kierz7 on May 8, 2020 8:50:00 GMT -5
At this point they may as well reintroduce the ‘Hot 100 Singles Sales’ chart or perhaps an altered version of it.
I’d like to see it alongside the Digital Songs chart so we could perhaps see, eventually, which format is selling more even if these Physical singles are being purchase in online bundles. That’d be interesting.
Also, in the 1990’s and as far to 2003/2004, it was common practice for labels to release a CD Single, Cassette Single and Maxi-Single (which contained several mixes of the same song), as well as even a traditional 7-inch vinyl single (which contained a B-side of a different song altogether) and 12-vinyl single also all within the same week.
What’s the difference between then and now? Either way:
• Multiple versions were/are being bought at once.
• All of them varied/vary in price but they all count towards the charts overall.
I don’t know why we act as if ‘chart manipulation’ (if that’s what you want to name it) is a new age phenomenon when it’s been happening since the era of Frank Sinatra and Elvis Presley when the mob itself controlled the radios. 💀
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Post by feoba on May 8, 2020 9:21:57 GMT -5
Hope Say So eeks out the #1 this week
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Post by lazer on May 8, 2020 11:07:53 GMT -5
I’m hearing both Love On The Brain and Perfect in the new JB and AG song.
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Post by tuna on May 8, 2020 11:27:55 GMT -5
I’m hearing both Love On The Brain and Perfect in the new JB and AG song. Love On The Brain’s instruments, in Issues’s pattern, with Perfect’s lyrics |
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Post by shayonce on May 8, 2020 11:30:35 GMT -5
I have a question with these physical/digital single bundles. Does it count twice towards the charts? One for the digital download and once for the physical version? If yes, sorry but that would be outright fraud/chart manipulation. 1. Bundle are all 1 sales. 2. in this case, it's tracked as digital sales. physical sales won't be recorded on nielsen/billboard. why +digital single/album? Physical product is counted when it's shipped to customers. all those recent physical singles are only made for chart and there's no product prepared to sell. meaning no shipment soon. so label added +digital and sell them as bundle, because digital sales are counted right away any time. there was interesting article on this practice. even tho physical singles became new trend with sales surge, those sales are not registered on nielsen soundscan because of +digital bundle. |
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Post by shayonce on May 8, 2020 11:33:40 GMT -5
they're tracked and counted. billboard simplly stopped making "hot singles sales chart" due to low sales, almost non-exist. |
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Post by Mayman on May 8, 2020 11:34:59 GMT -5
they're tracked and counted. billboard simplly stopped making "hot singles sales chart" due to low sales, almost non-exist. Physicals aren't counted, like you said - the digital song counts as the sale, not the physical. |
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Post by shayonce on May 8, 2020 12:03:29 GMT -5
they're tracked and counted. billboard simplly stopped making "hot singles sales chart" due to low sales, almost non-exist. Physicals aren't counted, like you said - the digital song counts as the sale, not the physical. what I mean is non digital bundle physical singles are tracked on nielsen and counted for hot 100. |
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Post by Mayman on May 8, 2020 12:04:08 GMT -5
Physicals aren't counted, like you said - the digital song counts as the sale, not the physical. what I mean is non digital bundle physical singles are tracked on nielsen and counted for hot 100. Oh okay I got what you mean. The only reason I thought they don't count is in the article above it says physical sales no longer count toward the Hot 100. |
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Post by amid on May 8, 2020 13:19:06 GMT -5
imagine if Say So got blocked by Savage, and then when the barbz try to push it to number one for this week, it just gets blocked again by the new 6ix9ine.
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Post by wavey. on May 8, 2020 13:30:05 GMT -5
Whew.
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Post by tasz on May 8, 2020 13:35:30 GMT -5
imagine if Say So got blocked by Savage, and then when the barbz try to push it to number one for this week, it just gets blocked again by the new 6ix9ine. She's getting blocked by Beyonce, 6ix9ine, Justin, Ariana or Drake who are responsible for her 5 biggest collabs. MESS. really hopes she gets blocked! |
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Post by ddlz on May 8, 2020 13:44:44 GMT -5
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Post by owenlovesmusic on May 8, 2020 13:52:32 GMT -5
6ix9ine will easily debut top 10-20
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Post by atg on May 8, 2020 13:57:09 GMT -5
6ix9ine will easily debut top 10-20 He’s debuting at #1 with 10 million first week sales and 1 billion first week streams |
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Post by Mayman on May 8, 2020 13:57:50 GMT -5
The song sucks lol
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Post by wrip on May 8, 2020 13:58:25 GMT -5
that 6ix9ine song is like so bad. That beat caught my attention though ngl
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