Typo
6x Platinum Member
Dispensable
#FreeKenyaMoore
Joined: September 2009
Posts: 6,934
|
Post by Typo on Oct 23, 2021 19:09:11 GMT -5
They’ll probably submit “Great Is Thy Faithfulness” to Best Gospel Performance/Song.
I think she’ll score 3 nominations at the upcoming Grammys. Best Country Collaboration, Best Roots Gospel Album, and Best Gospel Performance. I’d love for My Gift to be recognized in Best Traditional Pop Album, but Christmas albums don’t fare too well there. Although John Legend did manage a nomination for his Christmas album…
|
|
jenglisbe
Diamond Member
Joined: January 2005
Posts: 35,082
|
Post by jenglisbe on Oct 23, 2021 19:21:11 GMT -5
Her latest Instagram Reel where she's showing all of her husband's things around their home, including at least half a dozen stuffed carcasses of animals that he killed just for fun, proudly displayed alongside a mile-long "trophy" wall, is absolutely gut-wrenchingly unsettling to me. As someone that has always felt a sort of kinship with Carrie on account of her love, respect, compassion and advocacy for animals, I found it extremely disheartening and disappointing. I knew that her husband was an avid trophy hunter, but it was just shocking to me to see how many dead animals they actually have up for display in their home, and the fact that Carrie is even using those disturbing images in a lighthearted fashion just to elicit a few cheap giggles on a social media post. I won't even fully address the fact that her own kids are being raised in such a sick environment that both promotes and normalizes the killing of animals just for sport, because it's technically none of my business. Knowing Carrie's roots and her heart though, I would think that'd be a major bone of contention in their marriage, and certainly not something that she'd ever want to publicly shed light on, and especially not for laughs. It's just beyond shocking and disconcerting when you feel so strongly connected to someone in a shared system of values and convictions, and then they seem to depart from it. It almost feels like a betrayal when that happens, but I guess that's just life and some people unfortunately do change character and moral composition as they navigate through it, as contingent upon with whom they choose to surround themselves. Sadly, we're only as good as the company we choose to keep in most cases. I saw that too, but considering Mike's other statements, Carrie liking that anti-mask tweet, and Carrie duetting with Jason Aldean despite his blackface incident and anti-mask statements, I think it's more than time people stop assuming Carrie is left-leaning just because they want her to be.
|
|
jenglisbe
Diamond Member
Joined: January 2005
Posts: 35,082
|
Post by jenglisbe on Oct 23, 2021 19:24:25 GMT -5
I’d love for My Gift to be recognized in Best Traditional Pop Album, but Christmas albums don’t fare too well there. I'm not sure what you mean here. You reference John Legend, but Barbra Streisand, James Taylor, Sarah McLachlan, Barry Manilow, Tony Bennett, Susan Boyle, Michael Buble, Cee Lo, and more have been nominated for holiday albums in this category in the past 20 years.
|
|
Typo
6x Platinum Member
Dispensable
#FreeKenyaMoore
Joined: September 2009
Posts: 6,934
|
Post by Typo on Oct 23, 2021 19:29:54 GMT -5
I mean, that’s still relatively few considering how many Christmas albums are released year after year. Has a Christmas album ever won the category? I just think it’s more of a stretch compared to the other categories that I mentioned.
|
|
missy1993
Charting
Joined: June 2020
Posts: 215
|
Post by missy1993 on Oct 23, 2021 20:58:45 GMT -5
Her latest Instagram Reel where she's showing all of her husband's things around their home, including at least half a dozen stuffed carcasses of animals that he killed just for fun, proudly displayed alongside a mile-long "trophy" wall, is absolutely gut-wrenchingly unsettling to me. As someone that has always felt a sort of kinship with Carrie on account of her love, respect, compassion and advocacy for animals, I found it extremely disheartening and disappointing. I knew that her husband was an avid trophy hunter, but it was just shocking to me to see how many dead animals they actually have up for display in their home, and the fact that Carrie is even using those disturbing images in a lighthearted fashion just to elicit a few cheap giggles on a social media post. I won't even fully address the fact that her own kids are being raised in such a sick environment that both promotes and normalizes the killing of animals just for sport, because it's technically none of my business. Knowing Carrie's roots and her heart though, I would think that'd be a major bone of contention in their marriage, and certainly not something that she'd ever want to publicly shed light on, and especially not for laughs. It's just beyond shocking and disconcerting when you feel so strongly connected to someone in a shared system of values and convictions, and then they seem to depart from it. It almost feels like a betrayal when that happens, but I guess that's just life and some people unfortunately do change character and moral composition as they navigate through it, as contingent upon with whom they choose to surround themselves. Sadly, we're only as good as the company we choose to keep in most cases. I saw that too, but considering Mike's other statements, Carrie liking that anti-mask tweet, and Carrie duetting with Jason Aldean despite his blackface incident and anti-mask statements, I think it's more than time people stop assuming Carrie is left-leaning just because they want her to be. She used to seem left-leaning, but certainly not anymore.
|
|
Typo
6x Platinum Member
Dispensable
#FreeKenyaMoore
Joined: September 2009
Posts: 6,934
|
Post by Typo on Oct 23, 2021 21:01:08 GMT -5
She just received a 9X PLATINUM cert for “Some Hearts” and a 7X PLATINUM cert for BHC at the Opry.
She ATE tonight. One of my favorite BHC performances.
Filmed a performance of “Silent Night” for an upcoming Christmas special.
|
|
14887fan
Diamond Member
Joined: November 2013
Posts: 11,303
|
Post by 14887fan on Oct 23, 2021 22:00:54 GMT -5
Can’t believe SH will be Diamond, probably in the next few years. That’s just amazing.
|
|
carrieidol1
Diamond Member
Joined: August 2007
Posts: 12,661
|
Post by carrieidol1 on Oct 23, 2021 22:14:33 GMT -5
I believe this brings her official RIAA total to 70 million. Absolutely legendary numbers!
|
|
|
Post by misterscribbs on Oct 23, 2021 23:20:46 GMT -5
Queen of deer carcasses and RIAA certifications
|
|
zdm1998
2x Platinum Member
Sometimes love slips away, and you just can't get it back, lets face it
Joined: August 2020
Posts: 2,266
|
Post by zdm1998 on Oct 24, 2021 3:46:54 GMT -5
The fact Some Hearts and Before He Cheats will be diamond in probably the next 5 years makes my heart so happy. A truly astounding feat. For a female country artist.
|
|
SHOOTER
Diamond Member
3x Poster Of The Year!!!
There's still some ass on your lips. #FreePalestine
Joined: April 2006
Posts: 75,931
|
Post by SHOOTER on Oct 24, 2021 5:17:16 GMT -5
I mean, that’s still relatively few considering how many Christmas albums are released year after year. Has a Christmas album ever won the category? I just think it’s more of a stretch compared to the other categories that I mentioned. 13 have been nominated; none have won.
|
|
zdm1998
2x Platinum Member
Sometimes love slips away, and you just can't get it back, lets face it
Joined: August 2020
Posts: 2,266
|
Post by zdm1998 on Oct 24, 2021 10:05:03 GMT -5
28 number ones. Truly iconic.
|
|
oboeadam
Charting
When you figure out love is all that matters after all
Joined: December 2013
Posts: 87
|
Post by oboeadam on Oct 24, 2021 10:25:57 GMT -5
twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1vAGRknOgjRJlSharing the link to the Opry Live performance from last night in case anyone missed it. Her performance starts 1 hour and 6 minutes in, and her vocals are so on point! Not sure how long this will stay up, but as of the time of the posting, it still works :).
|
|
|
Post by Push The Button on Oct 24, 2021 12:53:10 GMT -5
I saw that too, but considering Mike's other statements, Carrie liking that anti-mask tweet, and Carrie duetting with Jason Aldean despite his blackface incident and anti-mask statements, I think it's more than time people stop assuming Carrie is left-leaning just because they want her to be. She used to seem left-leaning, but certainly not anymore. You obviously have no understanding of how people live in the south.
|
|
missy1993
Charting
Joined: June 2020
Posts: 215
|
Post by missy1993 on Oct 24, 2021 14:23:25 GMT -5
She used to seem left-leaning, but certainly not anymore. You obviously have no understanding of how people live in the south. Would you mind expanding on that idea a bit further? I'm not sure if you're boldly implying that all people living in the southern region of the U.S. are conservative Republicans by default, or if you're merely suggesting that the sort of deep-rooted traditional culture and lifestyle values that we associate with the deep South could potentially obscure the political leanings of its inhabitants, at least from a very general surface view Regardless of what you're trying to insinuate, this still comes as an absolute shock and kick in the stomach to anyone that has actually followed CARRIE from day one - and has not only done so closely enough over the years to be given specific insights into the kind of values, principles, beliefs and convictions that she, AS AN INDIVIDUAL, once held, but even established an undying sense of respect, admiration, and affiliation with her along those very lines. Yes, as someone that deeply admired and identified with her for more than half of my life, on issues that are profoundly important to me to this very day, this is an extraordinarily bitter pill to have to swallow. As a casual bystander that isn't privy to her past, and especially not the earlier times in her career when she actually expressed her convictions openly and remained strongly anchored to them even in the face of backlash from her core demographic, it's easy to say, "Well I mean she was born and raised in the rural South, smack dab in the center of a solid chain of Bible-thumping, Confederate-flag-raising, firearm-wielding red states, her family owned and operated a farm, and she sings country music .. it's obvious where she stands on all issues that come with any type of political attachment." So, for YOU, the string of events that have transpired over the past few months are neither shocking nor traumatic, but for the fans that both invested their hearts and forged a connection with her on shared values that run in stark contrast to what we're now seeing from her, it IS highly upsetting.
|
|
Typo
6x Platinum Member
Dispensable
#FreeKenyaMoore
Joined: September 2009
Posts: 6,934
|
Post by Typo on Oct 24, 2021 15:01:09 GMT -5
But she’s always said that being vegan is personal for her. She grew up on a farm. She’s been surrounded by hunting her entire life. She’s not participating in it, she’s not eating meat, she’s not wearing fur, she’s still not performing at rodeos. I mean, I don’t really think it’s a big deal that her husband collects taxidermy - we know where she stands on the issue.
|
|
matty005
3x Platinum Member
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 3,448
|
Post by matty005 on Oct 24, 2021 15:26:55 GMT -5
But she’s always said that being vegan is personal for her. She grew up on a farm. She’s been surrounded by hunting her entire life. She’s not participating in it, she’s not eating meat, she’s not wearing fur, she’s still not performing at rodeos. I mean, I don’t really think it’s a big deal that her husband collects taxidermy - we know where she stands on the issue. I guess my question is (and it's hypothetical so not asking you or really anyone - and also don't want to sound like i'm attacking you, I know it's a very complicated and delicate issue) is where do people draw the line? Carrie isn't really antivax/anti mask but her husband clearly is. Carrie isn't a Candace Owens fan but her husband is. Carrie isn't into collecting taxidermy but her husband is. Like, how much further are people okay justifying it because it's not Carrie herself? If her husband says the N word or something equally horrible is it still okay because it's not her? At some point we have to stop always defending Carrie because it's not her saying it/doing it "because we know where she stands." A lot of us don't know where she stands anymore. And if I were to guess, it would be on the wrong side of history is where she is standing right now.
|
|
Typo
6x Platinum Member
Dispensable
#FreeKenyaMoore
Joined: September 2009
Posts: 6,934
|
Post by Typo on Oct 24, 2021 15:37:59 GMT -5
I think this is a non-issue when it’s completely consistent with everything she’s said in the past. She’s never judged hunters. She’s vegan but she doesn’t push those practices on anyone else.
|
|
missy1993
Charting
Joined: June 2020
Posts: 215
|
Post by missy1993 on Oct 24, 2021 16:55:23 GMT -5
But she’s always said that being vegan is personal for her. She grew up on a farm. She’s been surrounded by hunting her entire life. She’s not participating in it, she’s not eating meat, she’s not wearing fur, she’s still not performing at rodeos. I mean, I don’t really think it’s a big deal that her husband collects taxidermy - we know where she stands on the issue. I think this is a non-issue when it’s completely consistent with everything she’s said in the past. She’s never judged hunters. She’s vegan but she doesn’t push those practices on anyone else. But it's a personal choice for everyone? That doesn't preclude a call to ACTIVISM though, because that, too, is a personal feeling and choice. Carrie has exhibited activist tendencies several times throughout her career, using her platform to transmit ideas that she believes in. That is activism in its purest, most simple form. It's not the kind of activism where she unceremoniously shows up to fashion shows ready to hurl the contents buckets filled to the brim with red paint at the first unsuspecting fur-or-leather-donning model that she sees approach the runway. There's still an obvious deviation and lack of continuity from where she once stood. Maybe it's not an absolute radical departure in the sense that she's now regularly consuming animal meat, walking the streets decked out in animal-derived attire, and accompanying that sadistic neanderthal to the hunting grounds with an assault rifle in hand ready to unload. Just look at it this way ... She doesn't eat meat, doesn't wear fur or leather, has openly condemned and refused to perform at rodeos, posed on the front cover of PETA (which is, in fact, the MECCA of all animal welfare groups, whether she operates on their extreme-end of the activism spectrum or not ), and even lent her voice to a campaign that vehemently opposed the passing of ag-gag legislation in the South, which would have enabled corporate factory farms to continue their horrific cycle of unimaginable torture and abuse of animals without any guidelines and/or restrictions put in place whatsoever. But yet she not only chose to get married to someone of Mike Fischer's caliber, she also apparently hasn't even set any kinds of boundaries on what she's willing to condone with regard to his "hobby," not even after bringing TWO impressionable little boys into their lives. Those two boys are going to grow up thinking it's "fun" to kill animals for no other reason than to admire their sizable lifeless bodies, disturbingly lined up on a trophy wall from hell in their basement or wherever else. People that advocate for animals and make personal changes and sacrifices in their lifestyles- such as not eating meat, not using or wearing anything that contains animal byproducts or was tested on animals - do so because they a) want to be part of a concerted effort to affect actual CHANGE and/or b) they don't want to feel personally COMPLICIT in the kinds of choices, attitudes, and behaviors that have established and continue to PROMOTE the status-quo of how animals are viewed, treated, and used in society by and large. Carrie's willingness to put up with the kind of sick lifestyle that her husband leads, as evidenced in HER own home, and that is directly influencing HER offspring, simply does not satisfy either of those aforementioned purposes. To me, that's not "standing" for anything. I believe that her marriage to - and now having children with that beast have resulted in her gradually becoming more and more loose with the principles that were once so close to her heart and constituted her very identity.
|
|
kamala 2024 truther
Diamond Member
Pulse’s #1 Conan Stan
Best Country Poster 2023 and 2x Woman of the Year!!!
Joined: October 2019
Posts: 16,368
Pronouns: he/they/she
|
Post by kamala 2024 truther on Oct 24, 2021 17:05:12 GMT -5
Why are we building word walls taller than One World Trade Center in the name of Mike Fisher? He ultimately has no bearing or weight on Carrie's career, and that has been evidenced time and time again. All people talked about in the comments of that TikTok (which was also posted as an Instagram reel) was how they relate to their husbands--hell, even their sons--doing the same things (i.e. the laziness of throwing clothes on the floor willy-nilly when the hamper is right there). He's not worth the energy. Just another very friendly reminder that just because she puts up with s**t doesn't mean she is the same person as him. There are people who couldn't possibly look at, let alone be in the same room with, let alone marry, someone who has opinions that differs from theirs, and there are people who recognize that love is not as trivial as all that. Love is a very complex thing, and you can't control who Cupid picks. (Well, you can, but nobody will feel the same as who Cupid picked.) It's about compromise and communication and nuance.
|
|
Active Aggressive
Moderator
Summertime Sadness
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 36,785
Pronouns: He/Him
Staff
|
Post by Active Aggressive on Oct 24, 2021 17:18:48 GMT -5
OMG.
|
|
|
Post by countryfan1985 on Oct 24, 2021 17:29:28 GMT -5
Why are we worrying about what Carrie and Mike does in their personal lifes they don't worry about yours so why could you worry about theirs. It does seem like Carrie was sad about something on how she was acting and her body language. People should stop ganging up on her on everything she does you supposed to be fans not her mom and dad..
|
|
musicfan134
Platinum Member
Joined: July 2012
Posts: 1,391
|
Post by musicfan134 on Oct 24, 2021 19:35:55 GMT -5
Why are we building word walls taller than One World Trade Center in the name of Mike Fisher? He ultimately has no bearing or weight on Carrie's career, and that has been evidenced time and time again. All people talked about in the comments of that TikTok (which was also posted as an Instagram reel) was how they relate to their husbands--hell, even their sons--doing the same things (i.e. the laziness of throwing clothes on the floor willy-nilly when the hamper is right there). He's not worth the energy. Just another very friendly reminder that just because she puts up with s**t doesn't mean she is the same person as him. There are people who couldn't possibly look at, let alone be in the same room with, let alone marry, someone who has opinions that differs from theirs, and there are people who recognize that love is not as trivial as all that. Love is a very complex thing, and you can't control who Cupid picks. (Well, you can, but nobody will feel the same as who Cupid picked.) It's about compromise and communication and nuance. I don't know that I completely agree with this bolded statement. Up until this year, Carrie has faced virtually no controversy* in her career. Yet, earlier this year she faced backlash on social media over a liked tweet that may or may not have been Mike's doing. Even if it wasn't him directly, he certainly played a role in her feeling that way with his anti-mask rhetoric. We are continuing to discuss disappointment in her actions on this forum, as a direct result of Mike. Like it or not, we start to take on the beliefs/opinions of those around us--which is true of anyone, not just Carrie. Now, is this a big deal in the grand scheme of things? Probably not. But like it or not, she is affiliated with him and one could argue has done damage to her credibility as an activist. And while I don't personally feel this way, I could see where someone who is a fan of hers and admires her for her advocacy would be disappointed in her choice of husband and therefore reconsider their fandom. *I do know she's had backlash re: gay marriage comments in the past, but those seem to have done her more good than harm in the long run.
|
|
|
Post by Push The Button on Oct 24, 2021 20:31:46 GMT -5
You obviously have no understanding of how people live in the south. Would you mind expanding on that idea a bit further? I'm not sure if you're boldly implying that all people living in the southern region of the U.S. are conservative Republicans by default, or if you're merely suggesting that the sort of deep-rooted traditional culture and lifestyle values that we associate with the deep South could potentially obscure the political leanings of its inhabitants, at least from a very general surface view Regardless of what you're trying to insinuate, this still comes as an absolute shock and kick in the stomach to anyone that has actually followed CARRIE from day one - and has not only done so closely enough over the years to be given specific insights into the kind of values, principles, beliefs and convictions that she, AS AN INDIVIDUAL, once held, but even established an undying sense of respect, admiration, and affiliation with her along those very lines. Yes, as someone that deeply admired and identified with her for more than half of my life, on issues that are profoundly important to me to this very day, this is an extraordinarily bitter pill to have to swallow. As a casual bystander that isn't privy to her past, and especially not the earlier times in her career when she actually expressed her convictions openly and remained strongly anchored to them even in the face of backlash from her core demographic, it's easy to say, "Well I mean she was born and raised in the rural South, smack dab in the center of a solid chain of Bible-thumping, Confederate-flag-raising, firearm-wielding red states, her family owned and operated a farm, and she sings country music .. it's obvious where she stands on all issues that come with any type of political attachment." So, for YOU, the string of events that have transpired over the past few months are neither shocking nor traumatic, but for the fans that both invested their hearts and forged a connection with her on shared values that run in stark contrast to what we're now seeing from her, it IS highly upsetting. What…the hell? 😂 EVERYBODY in the south has a deer head on their wall. I don’t know a single person, Republican or Democrat, who doesn’t. Every house from the biggest mansion to the smallest shack has one. This is as normal a fact of life as any. If you think her paper mill-working Oklahoma small town daddy didn’t have a ten-point Buck on the wall in the house where Carrie grew up, I have some beachfront property to sell you. Of course it wouldn’t bother her to see it in her home.
|
|
jenglisbe
Diamond Member
Joined: January 2005
Posts: 35,082
|
Post by jenglisbe on Oct 24, 2021 20:42:17 GMT -5
What…the hell? 😂 EVERYBODY in the south has a deer head on their wall. I don’t know a single person, Republican or Democrat, who doesn’t. Every house from the biggest mansion to the smallest shack has one. This is as normal a fact of life as any. Define "south." I agree hunting is common, but I've been in 6 different houses in the past week or two and not seen one animal head.
|
|
carrieidol1
Diamond Member
Joined: August 2007
Posts: 12,661
|
Post by carrieidol1 on Oct 24, 2021 20:53:36 GMT -5
^
Obviously an exaggeration and your question has nothing to do with the point - which is it’s not uncommon for dead animals and their heads to be scattered around southern homes, and that Carrie likely grew up around a lot of this - so it makes sense she wouldn’t be phased to live around it now, even if she’s an animal activist.
The quantity of houses actually decorated with dead animals doesn’t really matter.
|
|
matty005
3x Platinum Member
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 3,448
|
Post by matty005 on Oct 24, 2021 20:59:23 GMT -5
^ Obviously an exaggeration and your question has nothing to do with the point - which is it’s not uncommon for dead animals and their heads to be scattered around southern homes, and that Carrie likely grew up around a lot of this - so it makes sense she wouldn’t be phased to live around it now, even if she’s an animal activist. The quantity of houses actually decorated with dead animals doesn’t really matter. I think both things can be true. 1. A lot of people in the south (lol to believe ALL people do is quite a statement) have dead animals in their house. It is common and not unusual. 2. It's hard to still think of Carrie as an animal activist since that is what her own house looks like.
|
|
Typo
6x Platinum Member
Dispensable
#FreeKenyaMoore
Joined: September 2009
Posts: 6,934
|
Post by Typo on Oct 24, 2021 21:24:59 GMT -5
No sane person would think that Mike participating in regulated wildlife management has any impact on Carrie’s animal rights activism.
|
|
kamala 2024 truther
Diamond Member
Pulse’s #1 Conan Stan
Best Country Poster 2023 and 2x Woman of the Year!!!
Joined: October 2019
Posts: 16,368
Pronouns: he/they/she
|
Post by kamala 2024 truther on Oct 24, 2021 21:31:47 GMT -5
I’m loving the title change 😭😭😭
|
|
matty005
3x Platinum Member
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 3,448
|
Post by matty005 on Oct 24, 2021 21:39:13 GMT -5
No sane person would think that Mike participating in regulated wildlife management has any impact on Carrie’s animal rights activism. I get we all want to defend Carrie but this is the hill you want to die on? You realize almost all animal rights activists are against taxidermy right? Like legit really against it.
|
|