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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Oct 19, 2020 19:34:11 GMT -5
Are we sure.... that this isn't some type of Milli Vanilli type situation? Don't the members of BTS not even have that great of English, either? Their mouths are completely off when they are singing in the music video, and the vocal style seems *very* American? Even when they have each singer "singing" their portion in the video, it just seems... off. Also, this happens all the time with uncredited singers, but there's also clearly a girl singing in the mix, and she's nowhere to be found. Maybe someone who is a bigger fan can confirm that this sounds like their other stuff, but I would really not be surprised if it was uncovered that this was not them singing at all. Have you listened to it? The pronunciation is very accented. Not native English speakers at all singing.
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Post by sheerio on Oct 19, 2020 20:03:36 GMT -5
Woah, how is this still gaining. Die now pls
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Post by groovy on Oct 19, 2020 22:05:42 GMT -5
Are we sure.... that this isn't some type of Milli Vanilli type situation? Don't the members of BTS not even have that great of English, either? Their mouths are completely off when they are singing in the music video, and the vocal style seems *very* American? Even when they have each singer "singing" their portion in the video, it just seems... off. Also, this happens all the time with uncredited singers, but there's also clearly a girl singing in the mix, and she's nowhere to be found. Maybe someone who is a bigger fan can confirm that this sounds like their other stuff, but I would really not be surprised if it was uncovered that this was not them singing at all. What in the Shane Dawson's conspiracy theory is this? It's 100% their voices. Only one of them speaks English (and he's not completely fluent either). They've been performing some English songs live and that's just how they sound. Also the 'girl' you think is singing is probably Jimin (the guy with the brown bowl cut), he has a very high-pitched & feminine voice.
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Oct 19, 2020 22:15:02 GMT -5
...which is wut I feel like saying to all the h*erz sometimes... What in the Shane Dawson's conspiracy theory is this? It's 100% their voices. Only one of them speaks English (and he's not completely fluent either). They've been performing some English songs live and that's just how they sound. Also the 'girl' you think is singing is probably Jimin (the guy with the brown bowl cut), he has a very high-pitched & feminine voice. Yeah, I mean, people who speak Korean as a first language are capable of singing a song in English... Why are people acting like this is some kind of miracle? As if Helen Keller just scored a #1 on the Hot 100...
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Oct 19, 2020 22:16:31 GMT -5
Lmao, their accents aren’t exactly conspicuous and Jimin has a high voice, where is this conspiracy coming from. It’s very obviously them The song is still going because it’s doing well on Spotify & iTunes. Their past singles were frontloaded non-events, yes, but “Dynamite” is an actual hit. Of course they’re still playing it. I know the chart shenanigans are annoying but let’s not get crazy, yeesh. Stream “FAKE LOVE” Also at yoongi not knowing the words oh my god EDIT: WTF, Jimin sounds WAY better live, why did they ruin his voice on the studio version!!! i thought he just had a freaky voice but he's been a good singer this whole time :'(
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Post by Wave. on Oct 20, 2020 7:35:01 GMT -5
Omg I keep watching that Tiny Desk. They are so cute🥰🥰🥰
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Post by breathingrande on Oct 20, 2020 9:34:39 GMT -5
The amount of melodyne/autotune on their voices is grating as hell.... (The song is a bop though)
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Post by fearlessarrow on Oct 20, 2020 12:57:36 GMT -5
POP: 13 11 BTS Dynamite 9399 8566 833 39.439
+90 Spins -93 Bullet +0.551 Audience
HOT AC: 22 21 BTS Dynamite 1288 1140 148 5.277
+17 Spins -13 Bullet +0.189 Audience
AC: 22 21 BTS Dynamite 84 81 3 0.362
+1 Spin -1 Bullet +0.013 Audience
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Oct 20, 2020 20:38:38 GMT -5
Omg I keep watching that Tiny Desk. They are so cute🥰🥰🥰 The way the light hits their faces... such great contours going on.
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Post by survivorqt on Oct 21, 2020 1:41:31 GMT -5
I wish their pronunciation is more clearer, I can tell who’s fluent in English
Song still a bop tho
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Post by fearlessarrow on Oct 21, 2020 10:32:30 GMT -5
POP: 13 11 BTS Dynamite 9502 8653 849 39.615
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HOT AC: 22 21 BTS Dynamite 1334 1160 174 5.471
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AC: 22 21 BTS Dynamite 90 80 10 0.389
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Oct 21, 2020 17:46:02 GMT -5
I wish their pronunciation is more clearer Clearly, "clearer" is more clear than "more clearer."
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Post by fearlessarrow on Oct 22, 2020 18:04:00 GMT -5
POP: 13 11 BTS Dynamite 9583 8822 761 39.816
+81 Spins -88 Bullet +0.201 Audience
HOT AC: 22 21 BTS Dynamite 1368 1195 173 5.622
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AC: 22 21 BTS Dynamite 91 83 8 0.396
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Post by fearlessarrow on Oct 23, 2020 7:34:38 GMT -5
POP: 13 11 BTS Dynamite 9649 8929 720 39.917
+66 Spins -41 Bullet +0.101 Audience
HOT AC: 22 20 BTS Dynamite 1419 1203 216 5.851
+51 Spins +43 Bullet +0.229 Audience
AC: 22 21 BTS Dynamite 92 81 11 0.393
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Post by Brazilian Guy on Oct 23, 2020 10:51:57 GMT -5
"Dynamite is basically the worst-testing song in the new Mediabase callout report. Lowest positive reaction, lowest favorite rating, lowest net positive reaction, 3rd-highest negative reaction Burn rate is also rather high given the low familiarity."
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Post by levitating on Oct 23, 2020 13:41:20 GMT -5
yeah these callouts are in the gutter lol, god knows why radio it taking this into the top 10 but we aren’t surprised
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Post by divasummer on Oct 23, 2020 13:44:09 GMT -5
^^ Wow, I didn't think callouts would be that bad... ^^ It's a catchy cute bop that kids and adults could get into??? I do see this song on commercials and it's highly promoted so perhaps that's why the "burn" is so high already??
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Post by jerkin on Oct 23, 2020 14:08:45 GMT -5
^^ Wow, I didn't think callouts would be that bad... ^^ It's a catchy cute bop that kids and adults could get into??? I do see this song on commercials and it's highly promoted so perhaps that's why the "burn" is so high already?? It's probably because of their strong accents and maybe also the unnecessary autotune.
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Post by nick64 on Oct 23, 2020 14:54:06 GMT -5
Poor callouts overall don’t shock me. What does surprise me a bit is the poor favorite. I know Mediabase’s callout are much harder to manipulate than something like RateTheMusic, but this is probably the most passion-driven hit ever, so I figured that number would at least be solid.
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Post by Taylor. on Oct 23, 2020 15:49:52 GMT -5
I knew the callouts were going to be bad. It's not the kind of song that's connecting with pop listeners right now. The 'natural' peak (radio deal notwithstanding) for this probably should have been around #15 (and that's where it initially slowed) but they were intent on pushing this to the top 10.
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Post by Wave. on Oct 23, 2020 15:55:31 GMT -5
I hate radio nowadays.
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Post by Brazilian Guy on Oct 23, 2020 16:09:00 GMT -5
Poor callouts overall don’t shock me. What does surprise me a bit is the poor favorite. I know Mediabase’s callout are much harder to manipulate than something like RateTheMusic, but this is probably the most passion-driven hit ever, so I figured that number would at least be solid. This is the most fanbase driven hit of all time. The general public is unaware or meh on it, that's why the callouts are terrible. It only served to ruin WAP's number 1 stay at the top of Hot 100 through sales of multiple remixes and discounts.
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Oct 23, 2020 16:18:44 GMT -5
Poor callouts overall don’t shock me. What does surprise me a bit is the poor favorite. I know Mediabase’s callout are much harder to manipulate than something like RateTheMusic, but this is probably the most passion-driven hit ever, so I figured that number would at least be solid. This is the most fanbase driven hit of all time. The general public is unaware or meh on it, that's why the callouts are terrible. It only served to ruin WAP's number 1 stay at the top of Hot 100 through sales of multiple remixes and discounts. Wait a sec! Where's THE (hot) Brazilian Guy... you're not him!
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Post by bigolefreak on Oct 23, 2020 16:42:46 GMT -5
Respectfully, the American public don't wanna listen to this ****. I knew the callouts would be extremley bad. Take away the KPOP fanfare of it all. The song is just so cheesy and autotuned. I almost cannot even believe this was forcefed to the American public for almost 3 months (through tv commercials too).
I saw comparisons to Camila's 2017 'Never Be the Same' which debuted poorly but eventually became her second Pop #1. Not the same situation here, I think as she was coming off the second longest running female led Pop #1 single of that decade.
Feels like some sort of retribution for those weeks lost for WAP. Maybe I'm bitter. Maybe one of their songs on their album will be recieved better than this. But I'm convinced this song is a NO-NO.
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Post by Wave. on Oct 23, 2020 16:57:30 GMT -5
But let it have been 5SOS or One Direction, it would've all positive and what not. Radio barely gives diverse s**t a chance. I wanna say xenophobia, but that would be wrong .
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Oct 23, 2020 17:03:35 GMT -5
But let it have been 5SOS or One Direction, it would've all positive and what not. Radio barely gives diverse s**t a chance. I wanna say xenophobia, but that would be wrong . I blame The Deplorables!
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Post by Taylor. on Oct 23, 2020 17:10:01 GMT -5
But let it have been 5SOS or One Direction, it would've all positive and what not. Radio barely gives diverse s**t a chance. I wanna say xenophobia, but that would be wrong . Eh... the song is in English, I don't think the general public even knows who BTS are well enough to even know they're Korean. This also isn't the kind of song 5SOS or 1D would release either. It's much poppier and heavy on the autotune (and also 1D didn't have a ton of success on radio beyond a few choice singles).
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Post by kcdawg13 on Oct 23, 2020 17:13:51 GMT -5
But let it have been 5SOS or One Direction, it would've all positive and what not. Radio barely gives diverse s**t a chance. I wanna say xenophobia, but that would be wrong . Eh... the song is in english, I don't think the general public even knows who BTS are well enough to even know they're Korean. This isn't the kind of song 5SOS or 1D would release either. It's much poppier and autotune heavy (and also 1D didn't have a ton of success on radio). Yeah and 5SOS has had a pretty mediocre radio presence, they only have one hit and that was a couple years ago. Idk what this person is on about.
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Oct 23, 2020 17:18:13 GMT -5
Eh... the song is in english, I don't think the general public even knows who BTS are well enough to even know they're Korean. This isn't the kind of song 5SOS or 1D would release either. It's much poppier and autotune heavy (and also 1D didn't have a ton of success on radio). Yeah and 5SOS has had a pretty mediocre radio presence, they only have one hit and that was a couple years ago. Idk what this person is on about. "This person" is a moderator, as clearly indicated above... You in danger, gurl!
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Post by Wave. on Oct 23, 2020 17:58:01 GMT -5
Eh... the song is in english, I don't think the general public even knows who BTS are well enough to even know they're Korean. This isn't the kind of song 5SOS or 1D would release either. It's much poppier and autotune heavy (and also 1D didn't have a ton of success on radio). Yeah and 5SOS has had a pretty mediocre radio presence, they only have one hit and that was a couple years ago. Idk what this person is on about. Just a speculation. Nothing more. Was just talking boybands and radio in general. I was obviously wrong. Thank you, Taylor. for the clarification. Maybe radio is just shitty towards boybands. Hopefully the next single is something a little more suited for radio.
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