Billboard Hot 100: 10/10/2020

[Gary]

Rap artists covering rock songs don't necessarily happen quite as easily.

Look at the current Rock songs chart there is a cover song charting this week in fact - which has no chance of charting on the Hot 100

[iHype.]

Sept 29, 2020 12:46:57 GMT -5 Gary said:

Rap artists covering rock songs don't necessarily happen quite as easily.

Look at the current Rock songs chart there is a cover song charting this week in fact - which has no chance of charting on the Hot 100

When Pop was dominating in 2008-2013, there was almost zero Pop artists who were releasing cover hits.
When Rock was still dominative in the late 2000s, there was almost zero Rock artists releasing cover hits.

Cover music being hits has been done with for awhile now, and it has nothing to do with Rap becoming dominant on Hot 100 barely 3 years ago. 

As said, majority covers that charted really have only charted for 1 (maybe 2) weeks with one-off TV show performances on Idol/Voice/Glee the past 15 years. "Put Your Records On" gaining momentum outside a talent-show performance and actually having momentum for various weeks is relatively rare, and has been since well before Rap dominated Hot 100. 

[Gary]

Sept 29, 2020 12:58:19 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Sept 29, 2020 12:46:57 GMT -5 Gary said:

Rap artists covering rock songs don't necessarily happen quite as easily.

Look at the current Rock songs chart there is a cover song charting this week in fact - which has no chance of charting on the Hot 100

When Pop was dominating in 2008-2013, there was almost zero Pop artists who were releasing cover hits.
When Rock was still dominative in the late 2000s, there was almost zero Rock artists releasing cover hits.

Cover music being hits has been done with for awhile now, and it has nothing to do with Rap becoming dominant on Hot 100 barely 3 years ago. 

As said, majority covers that charted really have only charted for 1 (maybe 2) weeks with one-off TV show performances on Idol/Voice/Glee the past 15 years. "Put Your Records On" gaining momentum outside a talent-show performance and actually having momentum for various weeks is relatively rare, and has been since well before Rap dominated Hot 100. 

Let's just say I disagree and we will leave it at that. There is a charting cover song in Rock this week. So cover songs are not dead, they just come in genres that are not dominant on this chart.  Country artists have also been known to do a cover song or two from time to time.

If Rock was dominant rather than rap you would see cover songs trickle in where now you see zero.


Of the current top 40 just about half are rap/hip-hop. Imagine if hip hop were less dominant, then more songs of other genres would be free to hit the Hot 100

Not gonna happen though in the current environment.  

[Enyasurvivor]

There's also Jubël's cover of "Dancing in the Moonlight" charting in the UK right now. Peaked at #11

[nathanalbright]

Sept 29, 2020 12:40:41 GMT -5 kindofbiased said:

Sept 29, 2020 11:51:53 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Didn't realize "Put Your Records On" was a cover of the 2000s hit. Such a classic.

When was the last time a new cover actually gained enough traction and charted multiple weeks on Hot 100? I'm sure the Glee Cast last did it around their 2011/2010 peak, but drawing blank at what would have possibly done so since.

Seems like this song is on its way to having a chart run, whether it'll be a big one, who knows yet.

off the top of my head I think the last one was Zombie by Bad Wolves in 2018? I may be forgetting something but that one stuck around for a couple months

What about the Wheezer Africa cover?

[Gary]

Whether or not we think direct note for note covers are dead

Song samples are alive and well and seem to chart better

ILY (#37 this week) for example samples Frankie Valli

[jebsib]

I can think of Africa and Sounds of Silence being ‘recent’ covers - neither quite hit the top 40 but were high profile.

I think covers went out of style when the internet made any older song instantly available and the concept was cheapened by regular usage in things like American Idol, The Voice or Glee.

[Gary]

The current song - (no chance of charting here though)

Patience - Chris Cornell

[GP]

Sept 29, 2020 11:51:53 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Didn't realize "Put Your Records On" was a cover of the 2000s hit. Such a classic.

When was the last time a new cover actually gained enough traction and charted multiple weeks on Hot 100? I'm sure the Glee Cast last did it around their 2011/2010 peak, but drawing blank at what would have possibly done so since.

Seems like this song is on its way to having a chart run, whether it'll be a big one, who knows yet.

Hopefully Miley's Heart of Glass soon!

[hughster1]

Oddly, this week on the Mainstream Rock chart (which is of course now a niche chart), there are three separate covers in the Top 20. In addition to Chris Cornell's cover of Guns'n Roses' "Patience" at number one, Three Days Grace has a cover of "Somebody That I Used To Know" at 16, and at 18 is Sevendust's cover of a song that, coincidentally, Chris Cornell wrote and Soundgarden recorded, "The Day I Tried to Live."

[hughster1]

Also, let's not forget "Doin' Time" by Lana Del Rey, which last year hit number one on Rock Airplay and number 59 on the Hot 100.

[m450n]

This whole rock and covers discussion came at the perfect time

Miley Cyrus recently covered Blondie's Heart of Glass, and it is going viral on TikTok.

[nathanalbright]

Never mind xD....do we think any of these covers will actually debut next week?

[iHype.]

Sept 28, 2020 13:23:19 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Early Early Projections, 'cause I'm bored.

SPOILER: Click to show

{Spoiler}WAP:
Digital sales - 7,000
Paid streams - 20 million
Free streams - 11 million
Programmed streams - 2.5 million
Airplay - 35 million
= 301 points

Franchise:
Digital sales - 10,000
Physical sales - 20,000~ (wild guess)
Paid streams - 16 million
Free streams - 7 million
Programmed streams - 0.5 million
Airplay - 12 million
= 287 points

Laugh Now Cry Later:
Sales - 3,000
Paid streams - 16 million
Free streams - 5.5 million
Programmed streams - 2.5 million
Airplay - 54 million
= 263 points

Mood:
Sales - 8,000
Paid streams - 17 million
Free streams - 6 million
Programmed streams - 1.5 million
Airplay - 43 million
= 262 points


I have no clue about Dynamite's sales, but they'd need near 6 figures to retain #1 so honestly, next week could be a tossup....


Franchise's chance at #1/top 3/top 5 depends on the physical sales. If he only had 10,000 instead of 20,000 then that makes a huge difference of 247 points instead of 287 points. Whereas on the opposite end, if he had 30,000 physical sales, he'd have around 327 points projected. 

Physical sales seem quite a bit heavily weighted at the moment huh? Considering how niche and small of a market they are in the year 2020.

My updated projection.

1 +1 WAP 30,100
2 -2 Dynamite 28,933
3 NE Franchise 27,933
4 = Laugh Now Cry Later 26,333
5 = Mood 25,767
6 = Rockstar 24,320
7 = Blinding Lights 23,300
8 +1 Savage Love 20,387
9 -1 Watermelon Sugar 20,267
10 = I Hope 19,767


I think the announcement of BTS upcoming studio album may have made more fans focus on pre-ordering for it this week. 

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^BTS also performed for the Tonight Show today.

[Mathgeek]

^^ they’re on the Tonight Show everyday this week

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Spotify 09/29/20

1(=) Cardi B - WAP 1,373,955 (+4,996)
2(=) 24kGoldn - Mood 1,308,218 (+9,958)
3(=) Internet Money - Lemonade 1,291,189 (+34,847)
4(=) Drake - Laugh Now Cry Later 1,112,089 (+6,939)
5(=) Pop Smoke - For the Night 1,108,746 (+30,998)
6(=) Travis Scott - FRANCHISE 901,964 (+27,839)
7(=) Justin Bieber - Holy 825,767 (+18,185)
8(+1) Jack Harlow - WHATS POPPIN Remix 751,761 (+34,221)
9(-1) DJ Khaled - POPSTAR 730,406 (+8,340)
10(=) Machine Gun Kelly - my ex's best friend 713,160 (+2,253)

Nectar:
35(-3) Your Man 419,138 (-25,530)
40(-9) Gimme Love 413,299 (-39,023)
42(-14) Ew 405,836 (-52,324)
45(-11) Daylight 393,576 (-34,132)
62(-13) MODUS 335,180 (-45,951)
76(-14) Sanctuary 314,901 (-32,288)
77(-19) Tick Tock 310,159 (-43,376)
79(-15) Run 307,476 (-35,162)
81(-15) Afterthought 304,126 (-32,519)
91(-23) Pretty Boy 297,282 (-36,608)

Tickets to My Downfall:
18(-1) forget me too 615,608 (-3,237)
39(-3) bloody valentine 414,879 (-9,097)
64(-3) drunk face 334,031 (-13,794)
93(-15) all i know 290,979 (-20,449)

Others:
11(=) DaBaby - ROCKSTAR 709,601 (+1,982)
12(=) Conan Gray - Heather 691,902 (+9,546)
13(+3) Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love 683,180 (+18,787)
14(-1) Juice WRLD - Come & Go 680,411 (-1,094)
15(-3) Juice WRLD - Wishing Well 672,805 (+100)
16(-1) BTS - Dynamite 665,429 (-5,207)
17(+1) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 633,628 (+33,986)
19(=) Harry Styles - Watermelon Sugar 592,098 (+5,099)
20(=) Tate McRae - you broke me first 549,405 (+7,978)
21(+1) Ritt Momney - Put Your Records On 539,797 (+14,822)
22(-1) Pop Smoke - Mood Swings 528,706 (-5,411)
24(+1) Polo G - Martin & Gina 501,303 (+14,719)
25(-1) Fleetwood Mac - Dreams 492,286 (+1,195)
27(-1) Jawsh 465 - Savage Love 466,747 (+3,489)
28(-1) Big Sean - Wolves 461,403 (+506)
30(-1) Juice WRLD - Smile 457,216 (+621)
32(+7) Pop Smoke - The Woo 425,205 (+10,011)
34(+13) Miley Cyrus - Midnight Sky 420,134 (+37,473)
37(+7) Money Man - 24 417,990 (+15,089)
47(-14) Polo G - Epidemic 390,694 (-52,593)
50(=) Morgan Wallen - 7 Summers 380,289 (+329)
54(+1) DJ Khaled - GREECE 363,667 (+2,556)
55(+1) BØRNS - Electric Love 363,301 (+2,496)
56(-2) Maluma - Hawái 362,373 (-968)
66(+8) salem ilese - Mad at Disney 325,796 (+5,375)
68(+4) Ashnikko - Daisy 323,956 (+1,454)
70(+5) Joel Corry - Head & Heart 319,888 (+560)
73(+8) Topic - Breaking Me 316,407 (+7,546)
82(+11) J. Balvin - UN DIA 303,715 (+12,430)
83(=) Vedo - You Got It 303,615 (+93)
85(+5) Labrinth - Still Don't Know My Name 302,639 (+7,290)
87(-10) ZAYN - Better 301,528 (-14,026)
88(+7) JP Saxe - If the World Was Ending 300,916 (+13,879)
90(-4) Taylor Swift - cardigan 298,114 (-349)
100(+9) Clairo - Sofia 281,621 (+6,835)

[Gary]

Hot 100 Flashback - 10/7/1972

1 1 1 15 Baby Don't Get Hooked On Me, Mac Davis 1
2 5 6 10 Ben, Michael Jackson 2
3 4 4 12 Back Stabbers, The O'Jays 3
4 6 7 13 Everybody Plays The Fool, The Main Ingredient 4
5 7 9 15 Go All The Way, Raspberries 5
6 8 13 7 Use Me, Bill Withers 6
7 9 18 8 Burning Love, Elvis Presley 7
8 2 2 9 Black & White, Three Dog Night 1
9 13 20 10 My Ding-A-Ling, Chuck Berry 9
10 10 14 14 Popcorn, Hot Butter 10

[dremolus - solarpunk]

does anyone know how many debuts Joji is predicted to have?

[Gary]

Hot 100 Flashback  12/9/1972

1 2 4 16 I Am Woman, Helen Reddy 1
2 1 5 9 Papa Was A Rollin' Stone, The Temptations 1
3 5 7 11 If You Don't Know Me By Now, Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes 3
4 3 1 14 I Can See Clearly Now, Johnny Nash 1
5 7 8 8 You Ought To Be With Me, Al Green 5
6 13 23 6 Me And Mrs. Jones, Billy Paul 6
7 8 14 8 It Never Rains In Southern California, Albert Hammond 7
8 10 13 8 Ventura Highway, America 8
9 12 17 7 Clair, Gilbert O'sullivan 9
10 11 15 9 I'm Stone In Love With You, The Stylistics 10


9/15/1973


1 3 3 13 Delta Dawn, Helen Reddy 1
2 1 2 10 Let's Get It On, Marvin Gaye 1
3 4 6 10 Say, Has Anybody Seen My Sweet Gypsy Rose, Tony Orlando & Dawn 3
4 6 9 7 Loves Me Like A Rock, Paul Simon 4
5 8 11 8 We're An American Band, Grand Funk Railroad 5
6 2 1 13 Brother Louie, Stories 1
7 5 4 16 Touch Me In The Morning, Diana Ross 1
8 9 15 9 Gypsy Man, War 8
9 7 5 11 Live And Let Die, Paul McCartney 2
10 10 14 11 Here I Am (Come And Take Me), Al Green 10



12/28/1974

1 3 5 11 Angie Baby, Helen Reddy 1
2 6 9 5 Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds, Elton John 2
3 5 7 9 You're The First, The Last, My Everything, Barry White 3
4 2 1 12 Kung Fu Fighting, Carl Douglas 1
5 1 4 13 Cat's In The Cradle, Harry Chapin 1
6 8 10 8 Junior's Farm/Sally G,, Paul McCartney 6
7 4 2 14 When Will I See You Again, The Three Degrees 2
8 12 16 11 Laughter In The Rain, Neil Sedaka 8
9 14 18 7 Only You, Ringo Starr 9
10 13 23 7 Boogie On Reggae Woman, Stevie Wonder 10

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Sept 30, 2020 7:40:56 GMT -5 Gary said:

Hot 100 Flashback - 10/7/1972

1 1 1 15 Baby Don't Get Hooked On Me, Mac Davis 1
2 5 6 10 Ben, Michael Jackson 2
3 4 4 12 Back Stabbers, The O'Jays 3
4 6 7 13 Everybody Plays The Fool, The Main Ingredient 4
5 7 9 15 Go All The Way, Raspberries 5
6 8 13 7 Use Me, Bill Withers 6
7 9 18 8 Burning Love, Elvis Presley 7
8 2 2 9 Black & White, Three Dog Night 1
9 13 20 10 My Ding-A-Ling, Chuck Berry 9
10 10 14 14 Popcorn, Hot Butter 10

I'm sorry what

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Covers are much much less common than they used to be, even on charts where covers are more likely to appear (rock) but sure, let’s argue against it to avoid having to actually admit we might be wrong about something. “Agree to disagree” is what we use, is it?

[Gary]

Sept 30, 2020 7:44:49 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Sept 30, 2020 7:40:56 GMT -5 Gary said:

Hot 100 Flashback - 10/7/1972

1 1 1 15 Baby Don't Get Hooked On Me, Mac Davis 1
2 5 6 10 Ben, Michael Jackson 2
3 4 4 12 Back Stabbers, The O'Jays 3
4 6 7 13 Everybody Plays The Fool, The Main Ingredient 4
5 7 9 15 Go All The Way, Raspberries 5
6 8 13 7 Use Me, Bill Withers 6
7 9 18 8 Burning Love, Elvis Presley 7
8 2 2 9 Black & White, Three Dog Night 1
9 13 20 10 My Ding-A-Ling, Chuck Berry 9
10 10 14 14 Popcorn, Hot Butter 10

I'm sorry what

Silver bells hanging on a string

[kingvavis]

Roddy Ricch remix for Lemonade dropped, hopefully it can get to the top 10 next week

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^That song already had a lot of momentum before that and should become an even greater international hit.

[amid]

Sept 30, 2020 9:18:47 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

^That song already had a lot of momentum before that and should become an even greater international hit.

It's already an impressively international hit at #3 on the Spotify Global top 50. 

[wavey.]

Sept 30, 2020 7:44:18 GMT -5 Gary said:

Hot 100 Flashback  12/9/1972

1 2 4 16 I Am Woman, Helen Reddy 1
2 1 5 9 Papa Was A Rollin' Stone, The Temptations 1
3 5 7 11 If You Don't Know Me By Now, Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes 3
4 3 1 14 I Can See Clearly Now, Johnny Nash 1
5 7 8 8 You Ought To Be With Me, Al Green 5
6 13 23 6 Me And Mrs. Jones, Billy Paul 6
7 8 14 8 It Never Rains In Southern California, Albert Hammond 7
8 10 13 8 Ventura Highway, America 8
9 12 17 7 Clair, Gilbert O'sullivan 9
10 11 15 9 I'm Stone In Love With You, The Stylistics 10


9/15/1973


1 3 3 13 Delta Dawn, Helen Reddy 1
2 1 2 10 Let's Get It On, Marvin Gaye 1
3 4 6 10 Say, Has Anybody Seen My Sweet Gypsy Rose, Tony Orlando & Dawn 3
4 6 9 7 Loves Me Like A Rock, Paul Simon 4
5 8 11 8 We're An American Band, Grand Funk Railroad 5
6 2 1 13 Brother Louie, Stories 1
7 5 4 16 Touch Me In The Morning, Diana Ross 1
8 9 15 9 Gypsy Man, War 8
9 7 5 11 Live And Let Die, Paul McCartney 2
10 10 14 11 Here I Am (Come And Take Me), Al Green 10



12/28/1974

1 3 5 11 Angie Baby, Helen Reddy 1
2 6 9 5 Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds, Elton John 2
3 5 7 9 You're The First, The Last, My Everything, Barry White 3
4 2 1 12 Kung Fu Fighting, Carl Douglas 1
5 1 4 13 Cat's In The Cradle, Harry Chapin 1
6 8 10 8 Junior's Farm/Sally G,, Paul McCartney 6
7 4 2 14 When Will I See You Again, The Three Degrees 2
8 12 16 11 Laughter In The Rain, Neil Sedaka 8
9 14 18 7 Only You, Ringo Starr 9
10 13 23 7 Boogie On Reggae Woman, Stevie Wonder 10

Not her back to back to back slaying.

[iggyamo]

Dear Mama, I Am Ending The CCP is number 3 on ITunes, more than likely due to VPNs because I’m like 99% sure that song is illegal in China

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2020/09/30

1(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 132.47(+1.37)
2(=) Lewis Capaldi - Before You Go 127.59(-1.02)
3(=) Harry Styles - Watermelon Sugar 122.42(-0.65) +
4(+2) Jawsh 685 x Jason Derulo - Savage Love (Laxed - Siren Beat) 111.65(+2.22)
5(-1) DaBaby - ROCKSTAR (feat. Roddy Ricch) 110.93(-0.27)
6(-1) Gabby Barrett - I Hope (feat. Charlie Puth) 110.60(+1.11)
7(=) Dua Lipa - Break My Heart 91.18(+0.36)
8(=) Post Malone - Circles 89.16(-0.19)
9(=) Harry Styles - Adore You 87.38(-1.35)
10(=) Drake - Laugh Now Cry Later (feat. Lil Durk) 86.81(+1.01)

13(+1) 24kGoldn - Mood (feat. iann dior) 65.87(+1.74)

15(=) Lee Brice - One of Them Girls 64.33(+0.95)

18(=) Surf Mesa - ily (i love you baby) [feat. Emilee] 56.91(+0.84)

25(+3) Pop Smoke - The Woo (feat. 50 Cent & Roddy Ricch) 46.39(+1.06)

29(=) Tim McGraw - I Called Mama 45.33(+0.72) +

37(+2) Ava Max - Kings & Queens 38.86(+1.52)

41(+6) Justin Bieber - Holy (feat. Chance the Rapper) 36.68(+2.31)

43(=) Morgan Wallen - More Than My Hometown 36.63(+1.05)

55(+3) Chloe x Halle - Do It 29.30(+0.71)

57(+2) Ne-Yo & Jeremih - U 2 Luv 29.10(+1.06)

72(+2) Young Dolph - RNB f/Megan Thee Stallion 24.07(+0.87)

74(+2) Sam Smith - Diamonds 23.28(+1.11) -

78(+1) Ashe - Moral of the Story 22.31(+0.74)

92(+11) Travis Scott - FRANCHISE (feat. Young Thug & M.I.A.) 18.07(+2.03)

-(-) Internet Money & Gunna - Lemonade (feat. Don Toliver & NAV) 6.90(+2.13) +

-(-) Camilo - Vida de Rico 1.75(+1.39) +

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

Sept 30, 2020 10:28:40 GMT -5 iggyamo said:

Dear Mama, I Am Ending The CCP is number 3 on ITunes, more than likely due to VPNs because I’m like 99% sure that song is illegal in China

Or people from China who live in the US are actually buying the song.