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Post by Mayman on Oct 13, 2020 7:12:58 GMT -5
Notable dropouts: - "Life Is Good" by Future featuring Drake (#2 peak, 38 weeks) - "Chasing You" by Morgan Wallen (#16 peak, 36 weeks) - "Die From a Broken Heart" by Maddie & Tae (#22 peak, 25 weeks) - "We Paid" by Lil Baby & 42 Dugg (#10 peak, 22 weeks) - "Like That" by Doja Cat featuring Gucci Mane (#50 peak, 18 weeks) - "Nobody's Love" by Maroon 5 (#41 peak, 10 weeks) "Circles" and "Don't Start Now" are still on the chart. Billboard is so inconsistent with their rules. "We Paid" is still blasting up the Urban radio chart and should still be on the Hot 100 because of that. |
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Post by Gary on Oct 13, 2020 7:15:52 GMT -5
Hot 100 Flashback September 30, 2017
The last time a Post Malone song was not in the top 20
1 1 1 4 Look What You Made Me Do, Taylor Swift 1
2 2 3 11 Bodak Yellow (Money Moves), Cardi B 2
3 5 9 20 1-800-273-8255, Logic Featuring Alessia Cara & Khalid 3
4 3 2 35 Despacito, Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee Featuring Justin Bieber 1
5 - Hot Shot Debut 1 Too Good At Goodbyes, Sam Smith 5
6 6 4 13 Wild Thoughts, DJ Khaled Featuring Rihanna & Bryson Tiller 2
7 9 7 23 Unforgettable, French Montana Featuring Swae Lee 3
8 7 5 21 Attention, Charlie Puth 5
9 8 6 32 Believer, Imagine Dragons 4
10 10 8 21 There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back, Shawn Mendes 6
11 15 15 20 Slow Hands, Niall Horan 11
12 14 10 17 Strip That Down, Liam Payne Featuring Quavo 10
13 13 18 10 Sorry Not Sorry, Demi Lovato 13
14 18 20 13 Feel It Still, Portugal. The Man 14
15 12 12 10 Bank Account, 21 Savage 12
16 11 13 11 Rake It Up, Yo Gotti Featuring Nicki Minaj 10
17 16 11 36 Shape Of You, Ed Sheeran 1
18 17 17 35 That's What I Like, Bruno Mars 1
19 22 23 11 Mi Gente, J Balvin & Willy William 19
20 19 16 25 XO TOUR Llif3, Lil Uzi Vert 7
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Post by fhas on Oct 13, 2020 7:27:47 GMT -5
Fallin' Digital Sales: #36 Streaming: N/A Radio: N/A Hot 100: #37 How is this possible? Physical sales? Yes, I guess they've more than 50% of their points coming from physical sales. #37 on this week's Hot 100 is ~11k points, so maybe 25k+ physical sales. #36 in digital sales is ~4k downloads = 800 points ~5M audience impressions = 833 points Also, it's not in the top 200 of Spotify, Apple Music or YouTube, so they probably had less than 5M streams. |
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Post by GW on Oct 13, 2020 7:52:33 GMT -5
Notable dropouts: - "Life Is Good" by Future featuring Drake (#2 peak, 38 weeks) - "Chasing You" by Morgan Wallen (#16 peak, 36 weeks) - "Die From a Broken Heart" by Maddie & Tae (#22 peak, 25 weeks) - "We Paid" by Lil Baby & 42 Dugg (#10 peak, 22 weeks) - "Like That" by Doja Cat featuring Gucci Mane (#50 peak, 18 weeks) - "Nobody's Love" by Maroon 5 (#41 peak, 10 weeks) "Circles" and "Don't Start Now" are still on the chart. Billboard is so inconsistent with their rules. "We Paid" is still blasting up the Urban radio chart and should still be on the Hot 100 because of that. I'm not sure it's inconsistency in this case. If a song has already peaked inside the top 50 (this having already peaked at #10), they are generally removed after 20 weeks. It's usually only the songs that haven't reached the top 50 that are allowed to remain on, because they are still actively promoted at radio. |
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Post by Mayman on Oct 13, 2020 7:54:15 GMT -5
Billboard is so inconsistent with their rules. "We Paid" is still blasting up the Urban radio chart and should still be on the Hot 100 because of that. I'm not sure it's inconsistency in this case. If a song has already peaked inside the top 50 (this having already peaked at #10), they are generally removed after 20 weeks. It's usually only the songs that haven't reached the top 50, that are still gaining airplay, that are allowed to remain on. Didn't they let Emotionally Scarred stay on 5 more weeks after it reached 20 just a few months ago? |
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Post by GW on Oct 13, 2020 8:09:55 GMT -5
I'm not sure it's inconsistency in this case. If a song has already peaked inside the top 50 (this having already peaked at #10), they are generally removed after 20 weeks. It's usually only the songs that haven't reached the top 50, that are still gaining airplay, that are allowed to remain on. Didn't they let Emotionally Scarred stay on 5 more weeks after it reached 20 just a few months ago? It spent its 20th week at #55, and the returned to the top 50 the following week with a bullet. Then it fell to #54 in its 22nd week, and then returned to the top 50. It usually has to have consecutive weeks of decline for it to be removed, like We Paid. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Oct 13, 2020 8:49:27 GMT -5
I just noticed there are no Post songs in Streaming Songs this week, mostly due to 21 Savage & Metro Boomin's album bomb.
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Post by Gary on Oct 13, 2020 10:10:00 GMT -5
Fleetwood Mac's 'Dreams' Charts on Hot 100 For First Time since 1977, Thanks to TikTok Revival
By Xander Zellner
10/13/2020www.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/9464533/fleetwood-mac-dreams-returns-hot-100/The song returns at No. 21 with its best streaming and sales week ever. Sparked by a viral TikTok video featuring the song, Fleetwood Mac's former No. 1 single "Dreams" re-enters the Billboard Hot 100 (dated Oct. 17) at No. 21, landing on the chart for the first time since its original 1977 run. In the tracking week ending Oct. 8, "Dreams" garnered its best-ever weekly U.S. streams and download sales totals: 13.4 million streams (up 54%) and 22,000 downloads sold (up 197%), according to Nielsen Music/MRC Data. The song concurrently jumps from No. 36 to No. 18 on the Streaming Songs chart and 9-3 on Digital Song Sales. Fan Army Face-Off 2020: Whose Army Is The Strongest? In the TikTok clip, Idahoan Nathan Apodaca rides his longboard while drinking a large bottle of Ocean Spray Cran-Raspberry juice, backed by "Dreams." The video became so popular that the band's own Mick Fleetwood recreated the clip. Ocean Spray even gifted Apodaca a red pickup truck (filled with bottles of Ocean Spray juice). "Dreams," which the group's Stevie Nicks solely wrote, debuted on the Hot 100 dated April 16, 1977, and spent a week at No. 1 (June 18). Until this week, the song had last appeared on the chart dated Aug. 20, 1977 (when the No. 1 hit was The Emotions' "Best of My Love"). With "Dreams" at No. 21 this week, Fleetwood Mac earns its highest Hot 100 placement since "Everywhere" ranked at No. 17 on the chart dated Feb. 20, 1988. The band last appeared in the Hot 100's top 40 on May 19, 1990 (when Madonna's "Vogue" hit No. 1), with "Save Me." Fleetwood Mac last debuted on the Hot 100 in March 2003 with "Peacekeeper," which peaked at No. 80 that May. The song was released from Say You Will, the band's most recent LP of all-new material. Among other chart gains for "Dreams," it rises 8-2 on Hot Rock & Alternative Songs, 51-20 on the Billboard Global 200 and 161-68 on the Billboard Global Excl. U.S. chart. The track's parent album Rumours, which spent 31 weeks at No. 1 on the Billboard 200 in 1977-78 (the longest reign ever for an album by a duo or group), is also resurging, bounding 27-13 on the latest list with 29,000 equivalent album units earned (up 48%). It marks the first time the set has inhabited the top 20 since May 21, 2011, after a Rumours-themed episode of Fox's Glee. Viral Fleetwood Mac Skateboarder Gets a Cranberry-Red Truck Filled With Cran-Raspberry Juice Rumours also rises 29-22 on the Album Sales chart with 6,000 copies sold (up 37%), while it sold 4,000 copies on vinyl (up 28%) and soars 24-5 on the Vinyl Albums chart. To paraphrase another Fleetwood Mac classic, it doesn't stop there. The TikTok video has likely brought new fans to the band's catalog. The group's Greatest Hits album rises 103-61 on the Billboard 200 (12,000 units, up 34%), while other classic songs gain. "The Chain," also from Rumours, drew 5.2 million streams (up 22%) in the tracking week, growing alongside "Landslide" (3.8 million, up 16%), fellow Rumours hit "Go Your Own Way" (2.9 million streams, up 17%) and "Gypsy" (2.9 million, up 17%).
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Oct 13, 2020 10:42:30 GMT -5
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Post by GP on Oct 13, 2020 12:03:20 GMT -5
ROM drops next week, Circles and DSN will rise I suppose?
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Post by Naos on Oct 13, 2020 12:27:06 GMT -5
Notable losses:
25. Franchise (-24)
34. Popstar (-13)
40. Lovin' On You (-14)
42. The Woo (-13)
43. If The World Was Ending (-12)
47. Tap In (-17)
49. Rags2Riches (-11)
50. My Ex's Best Friend (-22)
51. Said Sum (-15)
54. I Should Probably Go To Bed (-11)
55. Midnight Sky (-16)
62. Wishing Well (-11)
65. Rain On Me (-10)
70. Cool Again (-25)
77. Cardigan (-24)
78. Breaking Me (-19)
79. Everywhere But On (-10)
80. Diamonds (-10)
81. Starting Over (-17)
86. Martin & Gina (-15)
87. Hit Different (-12)
88. Greece (-21)
89. The Bigger Picture (-17)
90. Bloody Valentine (-40)
92. Relacion (-16)
93. Epidemic (-46)
94. Do It (-14)
95. Girls In The Hood (-21)
96. Forget Me Too (-52)
98. Kacey Talk (-19)
99. Blind (-14)
100. Caramelo (-17)
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Post by Gary on Oct 13, 2020 18:55:36 GMT -5
21 - - 20 Dreams, Fleetwood Mac 1
Some Fleetwood Mac stats
'Dreams' - only #1 (June 18, 1977)
Last chart entry
'Peacekeeper' #80 in 2003
Last top 40
'Save Me' #33 in 1990
Last time a song was this high up
'Everwhere' was in the top 20 in February 1988
Last top 10
'Little Lies' November 1987
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Post by atg on Oct 13, 2020 19:30:00 GMT -5
Why Don't We charting for the first time ever is the biggest shocker of the week and at the top 40 at that lol Imagine they fall through the exact same route as bts and eventually get a #1 and stabilized hit |
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Post by jebsib on Oct 13, 2020 22:00:07 GMT -5
In the same vein as Fleetwood Mac, does anyone recall what specifically brought both “Billie Jean” and “Livin’ on a Prayer” back into the top 25 in 2014 and 2013?
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Post by iHype. on Oct 13, 2020 22:04:18 GMT -5
In the same vein as Fleetwood Mac, does anyone recall what specifically brought both “Billie Jean” and “Livin’ on a Prayer” back into the top 25 in 2014 and 2013? When YouTube was first included in the formula, a song being used in 1 viral video as background music could simply bring it back to Hot 100 in some cases. Spotify was rather small, Apple Music didn't exist, Pandora didn't count yet. YouTube was practically the majority of all streaming at the time. I remember "Billie Jean" was recharting specifically due to some viral video of some kid dancing to it at a high school assembly. This was also that year when that "We Might Be Dead by Tomorrow" song randomly debuted at #9 then fell off next week due to being background music in a viral video. "Wrecking Ball" reached #1 again after 9 weeks of being dethroned purely to a viral ChatRoulette YouTube video. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Oct 13, 2020 22:19:16 GMT -5
There was also Livin' on a Prayer re-enter the Hot 100 due to UGC related to a viral video on YouTube.
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Oct 14, 2020 3:08:07 GMT -5
There was also Livin' on a Prayer re-enter the Hot 100 due to UGC related to a viral video on YouTube. I just found out about the viral video recently, and it's a gem. Highly recommend y'all to check it out. ;) |
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Post by kalmanta on Oct 14, 2020 3:16:25 GMT -5
One of the most random re-enterings of that time must be Kanye West‘s “Gone“ thanks to that one woman posting a video with the song in the background about leaving her job. It hit a new peak of 63 on the Hot 100.
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Post by Gary on Oct 14, 2020 6:28:56 GMT -5
BTS Is the First Act With 200 Weeks at No. 1 on Social 50 Chart
By Kevin Rutherford
10/13/2020www.billboard.com/articles/business/chart-beat/9464868/bts-first-act-200-weeks-number-1-social-50-chart/The group has not relinquished No. 1 on the Social 50 since late July 2017. BTS becomes the first act in the nearly decade-long history of Billboard’s Social 50 chart to lead for 200 weeks, ruling for its 200th frame on the list dated Oct. 17. The Social 50 is powered by data tracked by music analytics company Next Big Sound and ranks the most popular artists on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Wikipedia. The chart's methodology blends weekly additions of friends/fans/followers with artist page views and engagement. Its latest tracking period ended Oct. 8. BTS reigns amid gains in many of its social media metrics, led by 19.8 mentions on Twitter (up 28%) and 6.3 million reactions to its tweets (a gain of 19%), according to Next Big Sound. BTS got a boost on social networks thanks to publicity generated by the release of a new remix for Jawsh 685 and Jason Derulo’s “Savage Love,” on which BTS is featured, that was released at the beginning of the tracking week (Oct. 2). BTS Lists All the Reasons Why They Love the ARMY: Exclusive As previously reported, BTS is at Nos. 1 and 2 on the Billboard Hot 100 dated Oct. 17, with “Savage Love” reigning, followed by BTS’ own “Dynamite.” Here’s a rundown of the most weeks at No. 1 for the Social 50 since its late 2010 inception: Most Weeks at No. 1, Social 50 200, BTS 163, Justin Bieber 28, Taylor Swift 21, Miley Cyrus 21, Rihanna 18, Ariana Grande 11, Adele 11, Lady Gaga 11, Psy 8, One Direction BTS has ruled the Social 50 every week since July 29, 2017.
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Post by Choco on Oct 14, 2020 9:02:27 GMT -5
Don't @ me but any chart where something rules for 200 weeks is pointless.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Oct 14, 2020 9:55:23 GMT -5
^Yeah. That just shows how rabid their fans are.
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Post by Gary on Oct 14, 2020 10:08:16 GMT -5
Before BTS, this was Bieber’s chart
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Oct 14, 2020 10:41:18 GMT -5
^Yeah. Those fans mostly grew up, it seems.
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Post by Naos on Oct 14, 2020 10:44:05 GMT -5
I see ARASHI reached a peak of #13 on the Social 50 last week, and I wonder how them and Nogizaka46 get to decently high positions. As for Bieber, he can still get pretty high on the chart, especially when he puts something new out, he'll get to Top 5 or even #2, but everyone is stuck behind BTS and will be for awhile.
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Post by Choco on Oct 14, 2020 10:47:10 GMT -5
And a social media chart that doesn't incorporate Instagram and TikTok in 2020 is kinda pointless too. TikTok in particular has been the reason why a lot of songs have seen resurgences, including the current wave of love for "Dreams", while Instagram is the defacto social media network for most stars, as a lot of them have abandoned Twitter or basically have the account for promotional purposes and managed by some employee.
Twitter and Youtube are also very bot-friendly so one would hope there's some sort of filter in place to remove fraudulent spam activity?
It's probably hard to take all those points into the chart and measure popularity in a reasonable, quantifiable way, but otherwise... it's a pointless chart.
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Post by chartfreak on Oct 14, 2020 11:08:44 GMT -5
How in the world did Kings and Queens fall so much!?
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Oct 14, 2020 11:11:50 GMT -5
How in the world did Kings and Queens fall so much!? 6 songs by 21 Savage and Metro Boomin Shawn Mendes Megan Thee Stallion Fleetwood Mac |
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Post by daysintheeast on Oct 14, 2020 15:36:39 GMT -5
if only Mr. Right Now charted at #11 and Outta Time charted at #46 instead of #10 & #48... would've meant 2 more chart positions drake has peaked at
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Post by thegreatdivine on Oct 14, 2020 23:04:58 GMT -5
if only Mr. Right Now charted at #11 and Outta Time charted at #46 instead of #10 & #48... would've meant 2 more chart positions drake has peaked at He'll eventually chart at all the positions he hasn't charted at yet. Maybe the next time he has an album bomb. |
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Post by thelegends on Oct 15, 2020 0:05:23 GMT -5
if only Mr. Right Now charted at #11 and Outta Time charted at #46 instead of #10 & #48... would've meant 2 more chart positions drake has peaked at He'll eventually chart at all the positions he hasn't charted at yet. Maybe the next time he has an album bomb. You know that Drake is 99% gonna get a #11 peak song with CLB |
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