Billboard Hot 100: 10/17/2020

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Spotify 10/03/20

1(+4) Cardi B - WAP 1,508,980 (+48,139)
2(-1) 21 Savage - Runnin 1,508,576 (-657,749)
3(-1) 21 Savage - Mr. Right Now 1,445,451 (-581,517)
4(+2) 24kGoldn - Mood 1,372,523 (-20,517)
5(+5) Pop Smoke - For the Night 1,218,666 (-1,047)
6(+3) Internet Money - Lemonade 1,173,023 (-85,827)
7(+4) Drake - Laugh Now Cry Later 1,162,698 (+8,516)
8(-5) 21 Savage - Glock In My Lap 1,127,645 (-560,405)
9(-5) 21 Savage - Rich Ni*** Sh*t 1,478,630 959,122 (-519,508)
10(-2) 21 Savage - Many Men 918,299 (-429,582)

21 Savage and Metro Boomin - SAVAGE MODE II:
11(-4) Slidin 904,725 (-472,312)
25(-8) Brand New Draco 666,788 (-348,198)
26(-14) Snitches & Rats 664,741 (-423,830)
27(-12) My Dawg 658,471 (-400,021)
32(-11) No Opp Left Behind 573,324 (-307,215)
35(-15) Steppin on Ni****s 563,220 (-348,022)
38(-15) RIP Luv 546,730 (-281,434)
42(-13) Said N Dun 512,882 (-250,665)

Bryson Tiller - A N N I V E R S A R Y:
23(-7) Outta Time 685,332 (-359,218)
63(-35) Years Go By 405,549 (-358,924)
66(-31) Always Forever 402,808 (-294,292)
90(-36) Inhale 345,574 (-190,332)
91(-47) Things Change 338,155 (-251,547)
94(-52) I'm Ready For You 338,155 (-273,570)

BLACKPINK - The Album:
28(-10) Bet You Wanna 646,695 (-330,754)
31(-7) Lovesick Girls 608,836 (-180,901)
48(-1) Ice Cream 464,880 (-107,303)
61(-22) Pretty Savage 413,225 (-246,980)
82(-23) How You Like That 356,970 (-127,472)
83(-35) Crazy for You 356,355 (-213,107)
92(-39) Love to Hate Me 337,484 (-200,949)

Others:
12(+1) Shawn Mendes - Wonder 832,887 (-247,205)
13(+9) Justin Bieber - Holy 808,068 (-54,085)
14(+13) DaBaby - ROCKSTAR 785,279 (+11,218)
16(+9) Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love 760,239 (-23,443)
19(+11) BTS - Dynamite 710,413 (-48,745)
21(+15) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 694,660 (+5,566)
22(+16) Fleetwood Mac - Dreams 692,295 (+27,621)
24(+7) Machine Gun Kelly - my ex's best friend 679,778 (-61,234)
29(+8) Conan Gray - Heather 623,832 (-64,145)
30(+11) Harry Styles - Watermelon Sugar 620,002 (-10,006)
36(+7) Ritt Momney - Put Your Records On 553,827 (-40,054)
37(+3) Travis Scott - FRANCHISE 548,331 (-94,497)
39(+13) Pop Smoke - Mood Swings 541,966 (-16,294)
40(+11) Polo G - Martin & Gina 535,750 (-17,270)
41(+4) Tate McRae - you broke me first 527,059 (-56,908)
43(+6) Megan Thee Stallion - Don't Stop 493,347 (-70,046)
44(+2) Machine Gun Kelly - forget me too 485,457 (-87,626)
46(+11) Big Sean - Wolves 472,818 (-16,294)
49(+13) Money Man - 24 462,279 (-8,565)
51(+12) Juice WRLD - Smile 456,691 (-10,067)
54(+19) Pop Smoke - The Woo 441,251 (+93)
58(+17) Internet Money - Lemonade Remix 427,853 (-7,952)
62(+10) Miley Cyrus - Midnight Sky 406,005 (-36,175)
65(+11) Jawsh 465 - Savage Love 403,282 (-32,393)
67(+19) Maluma - Hawái 396,320 (+13,816)
69(-5) Jawsh 365 - Savage Love Remix 381,854 (-83,323)
70(+12) Morgan Wallen - 7 Summers 381,310 (-20,794)
74(-4) Miley Cyrus - Heart of Glass 373,435 (-71,839)
79(+8) BØRNS - Electric Love 359,771 (-22,669)
81(+12) Joel Corry - Head & Heart 357,572 (-7,547)
84(+7) Ashnikko - Daisy 354,876 (-12,541)
95(+8) Topic - Breaking Me 332,984 (-8,416)

110(+5) Clairo - Sofia 306,856 (-13,227)
139(-61) Dua Lipa - Levitating 274,740 (-155,617)

Total Streams for Savage Love: 785,136
Total Streams for Lemonade: 1,600,876

[kierz7]

It’s the DROPS for me. 💀☠️💀

Cardi B holding steady. 👏🏿

[andrebra]

For the past couple weeks, WAP gains a large chunk on a Saturday while most songs fall, then WAP falls slowly throughout the week while everyone rises lol I can’t figure out why

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Omg it finally hit me that Lemonade is the new Unforgettable

[kingvavis]

Oct 4, 2020 10:55:52 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Omg it finally hit Lemonade is the new Unforgettable

Why?

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Oct 4, 2020 11:23:35 GMT -5 kingvavis said:

Oct 4, 2020 10:55:52 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Omg it finally hit Lemonade is the new Unforgettable

Why?

A song with verses by uncharismatic and uninteresting rappers saved and only memorable by a hook from a melodic rapper (if you consider Don Toliver a rapper). And it's also gaining international traction.

[Enigma.]

Lemonade has been actually bigger internationally as it's been in the US prior to the remix.

[Golden Bluebird]

Oct 4, 2020 11:48:13 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

Lemonade has been actually bigger internationally as it's been in the US prior to the remix.

I think the reason why "Lemonade" isn't charting as high in the US as it is internationally is because of the fact that the Hot 100 counts radio and a lot of international charts plus the Billboard Global 200 don't, and "Lemonade" hasn't had enough radio to chart all that high. However, if you look at the radio-less Rolling Stone Top 100, it's currently in the top 5.

[dovahduck]

Oct 4, 2020 11:27:43 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Oct 4, 2020 11:23:35 GMT -5 kingvavis said:

Why?

A song with verses by uncharismatic and uninteresting rappers saved and only memorable by a hook from a melodic rapper (if you consider Don Toliver a rapper). And it's also gaining international traction.

Nav is the epitome of charisma! 😡😡😡

[wavey.]

I-

[kingvavis]

Oct 4, 2020 1:21:14 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Early early early projection.

POSITION	CHG	SONG	TOTAL PTS
1		Savage Love	36,353
2		Dynamite	27,933
3		WAP	25,350
4		Mood	24,200
5		Blinding Lights	23,350
6		Laugh Now Cry Later	22,833
7	NEW	Mr. Right Now	21,800
8		Rockstar	21,653
9	NEW	Runnin	20,050
10		I Hope	19,233

- All "Savage Love" needs is about 35k sales to go #1. It'll obviously be done.

- Seems like "Mood" is out the race for #1 at this point (bar something unforeseen happening). It has already peaked in streams, and struggling to reach 250 points leaves ease for BTS stans to continue getting #1 and will make it pretty easy for a new single by an A-lister to debut #1 and have a run there.

- 21 Savage could have two top 10 debuts. "Mr. Right Now" w/ Drake seems to have the lead in streams of all the songs so far.

- Currently have "Franchise" at 12,733 (127 points). That'll be a fall outside the top 25.

If there is no new big debut or surge for a song in the week following, can we expect a number one peak of around 26,000 points or so?

P.s I know it's bit early to tell but I'm very curious

[iHype.]

Oct 4, 2020 15:32:06 GMT -5 kingvavis said:

Oct 4, 2020 1:21:14 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Early early early projection.

POSITION	CHG	SONG	TOTAL PTS
1		Savage Love	36,353
2		Dynamite	27,933
3		WAP	25,350
4		Mood	24,200
5		Blinding Lights	23,350
6		Laugh Now Cry Later	22,833
7	NEW	Mr. Right Now	21,800
8		Rockstar	21,653
9	NEW	Runnin	20,050
10		I Hope	19,233

- All "Savage Love" needs is about 35k sales to go #1. It'll obviously be done.

- Seems like "Mood" is out the race for #1 at this point (bar something unforeseen happening). It has already peaked in streams, and struggling to reach 250 points leaves ease for BTS stans to continue getting #1 and will make it pretty easy for a new single by an A-lister to debut #1 and have a run there.

- 21 Savage could have two top 10 debuts. "Mr. Right Now" w/ Drake seems to have the lead in streams of all the songs so far.

- Currently have "Franchise" at 12,733 (127 points). That'll be a fall outside the top 25.

If there is no new big debut or surge for a song in the week following, can we expect a number one peak of around 26,000 points or so?

P.s I know it's bit early to tell but I'm very curious

Like I said at this point, BTS will keep the #1 in further weeks with Savage Love/Dynamite with such way low points. 

Savage Love for example, wouldn't even require 30k sales to continue holding #1 in following weeks after it first reaches #1. With WAP falling quickly and Mood already pre-maturely peaking, even 30k sales would put it near 275 points which is a decent lead. Basically, it's BTS playground until a song surges in popularity or a new huge single is released.

I feel like a major single will probably be released in 1-2 weeks though... seems time for a new hit. 

[fridayteenage]

Fleetwood Mac:
#2 (& 21) iTunes
#22 Spotify
#49 Apple
#61 Youtube

Hmm.

[m450n]

Dreams hitting #1 (or even top 10) would be the icing on the cake for 2020.

[otaviohmg]

Oct 4, 2020 20:03:56 GMT -5 m450n said:

Dreams hitting #1 (or even top 10) would be the icing on the cake for 2020.

yeh

[notgoodenglish]

Its really over for Mood? Its still increasing fast on radio.

[garrettlen]

Oct 4, 2020 20:03:56 GMT -5 m450n said:

Dreams hitting #1 (or even top 10) would be the icing on the cake for 2020.

Why is Dreams suddenly gaining in popularity again (it went to #1 on the Hot 100 back in 1977)?

[Golden Bluebird]

Oct 4, 2020 21:42:47 GMT -5 garrettlen said:

Oct 4, 2020 20:03:56 GMT -5 m450n said:

Dreams hitting #1 (or even top 10) would be the icing on the cake for 2020.

Why is Dreams suddenly gaining in popularity again (it went to #1 on the Hot 100 back in 1977)?

Because of TikTok. Specifically this TikTok

[forg]

I don't totally get why that particular video captivated the Tiktok audience but still kinda fun that something so random could boost such classic to chart again lol

[iggyamo]

Oct 4, 2020 21:20:43 GMT -5 notgoodenglish said:

Its really over for Mood? Its still increasing fast on radio.

Also I think a remix is very likely, although I’m not sure if a MGK remix could push it that high

[m450n]

Oct 4, 2020 23:26:38 GMT -5 forg said:

I don't totally get why that particular video captivated the Tiktok audience but still kinda fun that something so random could boost such classic to chart again lol

Honestly, i'm not surprised that Dreams is doing well, but I never suspected it would do this well, I think a lot of Gen Z appreciates Fleetwood Mac sort of how Millennials had a fixation with Queen

I wouldn't be surprised if some kind of Bohemian Rhapsody movie but about Fleetwood Mac instead goes into production soon. 

[𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿]

Oct 4, 2020 7:29:17 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

I think only 2-3 songs will debut above Circles so it should be safe.

That should be the two 21 Savage huge debuts and then "Lovesick Girls" then thank heavens I still hope for "Circles" to last like 60+ weeks at Hot 100.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

I've actually never listened to Rumors but I might finally listen to it this week. Add this to classic albums I've listened to for the first time this year, along with Homogenic and Blue (Joni Mitchell).

Btw, can we please make River a Christmas staple starting this year? Especially with how different Christmas is bound to be, I think an unconventional, sad Christmas song fits the vibe of 2020.

[jodakyellow]

Oct 3, 2020 14:30:27 GMT -5 m450n said:

Oct 3, 2020 13:05:59 GMT -5 amid said:

the fact that Savage Love and Savage Mode II are the two biggest stories this week and are both challenging for #1 on different charts is confusing the s**t out of me

What is up with the music industry's fascination with the word 'Savage' also...

I'm surprised the internet hasn't collectively decided to cancel that word considering its negative definition throughout history.

When it was blowing up a few years ago we canceled it but I guess we all forgot

[𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤]

Oct 5, 2020 1:23:37 GMT -5 m450n said:

Oct 4, 2020 23:26:38 GMT -5 forg said:

I don't totally get why that particular video captivated the Tiktok audience but still kinda fun that something so random could boost such classic to chart again lol

Honestly, i'm not surprised that Dreams is doing well, but I never suspected it would do this well, I think a lot of Gen Z appreciates Fleetwood Mac sort of how Millennials had a fixation with Queen

I wouldn't be surprised if some kind of Bohemian Rhapsody movie but about Fleetwood Mac instead goes into production soon. 

You underestimate much Gen Z is obsessed with Queen. Zoomers like Fleetwood Mac, but they definitely love Queen WAY more. 

[Enigma.]

Queen are by far the biggest band right now. Fleetwood Mac come second though.

[phieaglesfan712]

Lovely Day being near the Top 10 on iTunes in October, even though Bill Withers passed away in March. That's just legendary!

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Oct 5, 2020 4:10:03 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

Queen are by far the biggest band right now. Fleetwood Mac come second though.

I don't know if I'd go as far as saying Fleetwood Mac is the second biggest band after Queen. If we're looking at boomer bands, Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, and The Beach Boys are just as if not more beloved by millennials and zoomers

[korbel16]

Rooting for dreams

[Enigma.]

The two 21 Savage songs barely over 1M on Spotify. Can't see top ten debuts on H100 for them.