Billboard Hot 100: 10/17/2020

[violentdreams]

Bryson Tiller debuted with 6.3 million, which is pretty decent considering that it's a short album. I see him debuting with 80k-100k, 21 with 180k-200k.

[rosalina4812]

Oct 3, 2020 7:14:36 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

3rd for women in 2020 too, beating out Future Nostalgia and Rare.

[nak]

Savage Love locked for #1 according to TOTC

[After Minutes]

Oct 3, 2020 9:13:08 GMT -5 nak said:

Savage Love locked for #1 according to TOTC

And vaccines cause autism according to a facebook post I've read

[Dadude#0839]

Looking like a busy week.. hope savage mode 2 gets a hit or two
the savage love remix wasn’t needed tbh

[violentdreams]

Oct 3, 2020 10:12:43 GMT -5 After Minutes said:

Oct 3, 2020 9:13:08 GMT -5 nak said:

Savage Love locked for #1 according to TOTC

And vaccines cause autism according to a facebook post I've read

Get a grip tryhard.

[kimberly]

Oct 3, 2020 6:50:06 GMT -5 strongerq said:

18,653,335 streams for 'Savage Mode II' on Spotify US.

6,232,093 streams for 'A N N I V E R S A R Y' on Spotify US.

5,066,815 streams for 'THE ALBUM' on Spotify US.

Savage Mode II — 1.24m per song
THE ALBUM — 0.63m per song
ANNIVERSARY — 0.62m per song

not bad for BLACKPINK at all! and Savage Mode II is smashing obviously. this has been one of the most exciting Fridays in a while!

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Spotify 10/02/20

1(debut) 21 Savage - Runnin 2,166,325
2(debut) 21 Savage - Mr. Right Now 2,026,968
3(debut) 21 Savage - Glock In My Lap 1,688,050
4(debut) 21 Savage - Rich N**** s**t 1,478,630
5(-4) Cardi B - WAP 1,460,841 (+86,566)
6(-3) 24kGoldn - Mood 1,393,040 (+75,911)
7(debut) 21 Savage - Slidin 1,377,037
8(debut) 21 Savage - Many Men 1,347,881
9(-7) Internet Money - Lemonade 1,258,850 (-106,136)
10(-6) Pop Smoke - For the Night 1,219,713 (+76,369)

21 Savage and Metro Boomin - SAVAGE MODE II:
12(debut) Snitches & Rats 1,088,571
15(debut) My Dawg 1,058,492
17(debut) Brand New Draco 1,014,986
20(debut) Steppin on N*****s 911,242
21(debut) No Opp Left Behind 880,539
23(debut) RIP Luv 828,164
29(debut) Said N Dun 763,547

Total Streams: 18,653,335

Bryson Tiller - A N N I V E R S A R Y:
16(debut) Outta Time 1,044,550
28(debut) Years Go By 764,473
35(debut) Always Forever 697,100
42(debut) I'm Ready For You 611,725
44(debut) Things Change 589,702
54(debut) Inhale 535,906
55(debut) Sorrows 525,295
56(debut) Timeless Interlude 517,161
58(debut) Keep Doing What You're Doing 484,615
66(debut) Next to You 461,566

Total Streams: 6,232,093

BLACKPINK - The Album:
18(debut) Bet You Wanna 977,449
24(debut) Lovesick Girls 789,737
39(debut) Pretty Savage 660,205
47(+58) Ice Cream 572,183 (+292,349)
48(debut) Crazy for You 569,462
53(debut) Love to Hate Me 538,433
59(re-entry) How You Like That 484,442
61(debut) You Never Know 474,904

Total Streams: 5,066,815

Others:
11(-6) Drake - Laugh Now Cry Later 1,154,182 (+47,866)
13(debut) Shawn Mendes - Wonder 563,393
22(-16) Justin Bieber - Holy 862,153 (+43,697)
25(-16) Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love 783,682 (+38,624)
27(-17) DaBaby - ROCKSTAR 774,061 (+40,013)
30(-14) BTS - Dynamite 759,158 (+73,363)
31(-19) Machine Gun Kelly - my ex's best friend 741,012 (+29,082)
37(-23) Conan Gray - Heather 687,977 (-15,042)
38(-20) Fleetwood Mac - Dreams 664,674 (+33,905)
40(-33) Travis Scott - FRANCHISE 642,828 (-150,890)
43(-21) Ritt Momney - Put Your Records On 593,881 (+19,855)
45(-25) Tate McRae - you broke me first 583,967 (+4,715)
46(-24) Machine Gun Kelly - forget me too 573,083 (+1,847)
49(debut) Megan Thee Stallion - Don't Stop 563,393
62(-22) Money Man - 24 470,844 (+50,255)
64(debut) Jawsh 365 - Savage Love Remix 465,177
70(-45) Miley Cyrus - Heart of Glass 445,274 (-75,465)
72(-42) Miley Cyrus - Midnight Sky 442,180 (-24,050)
75(debut) Internet Money - Lemonade Remix 435,805
76(-48) Jawsh 465 - Savage Love 435,675 (-36,907)
78(debut) Dua Lipa - Levitating 430,357
95(debut) Halsey - I'm Not Mad 361,162

136(debut) Why Don't We - Fallin' 295,857
149(debut) Maren Morris - Better Than We Found It 276,503
174(debut) Ella Mai - Not Another Love Song 253,552

Total Streams for Savage Love: 900,852
Total Streams for Lemonade: 1,694,655

Biggest Gains (50K+): 24, Ice Cream, Dynamite, For the Night, Mood, WAP

[Enigma.]

Franchise losing that much on Friday. The Sunday numbers will be brutal.

[thelegends]

The numbers for Wonder aren’t correct

[amid]

the fact that Savage Love and Savage Mode II are the two biggest stories this week and are both challenging for #1 on different charts is confusing the shit out of me

[m450n]

Oct 3, 2020 13:05:59 GMT -5 amid said:

the fact that Savage Love and Savage Mode II are the two biggest stories this week and are both challenging for #1 on different charts is confusing the s**t out of me

What is up with the music industry's fascination with the word 'Savage' also...

I'm surprised the internet hasn't collectively decided to cancel that word considering its negative definition throughout history.

[levitating]

this weeks chart is going to be such a mess.

[renfield75]

Glad Bryson's album is getting such great numbers. I've never especially been a fan (not that I disliked him, but I only knew his handful of hits) but his new album is really good.

[iHype.]

Early early early projection.

POSITION	CHG	SONG	TOTAL PTS
1		Savage Love	36,353
2		Dynamite	27,933
3		WAP	25,350
4		Mood	24,200
5		Blinding Lights	23,350
6		Laugh Now Cry Later	22,833
7	NEW	Mr. Right Now	21,800
8		Rockstar	21,653
9	NEW	Runnin	20,050
10		I Hope	19,233

- All "Savage Love" needs is about 35k sales to go #1. It'll obviously be done.

- Seems like "Mood" is out the race for #1 at this point (bar something unforeseen happening). It has already peaked in streams, and struggling to reach 250 points leaves ease for BTS stans to continue getting #1 and will make it pretty easy for a new single by an A-lister to debut #1 and have a run there.

- 21 Savage could have two top 10 debuts. "Mr. Right Now" w/ Drake seems to have the lead in streams of all the songs so far.

- Currently have "Franchise" at 12,733 (127 points). That'll be a fall outside the top 25.

[Enigma.]

Mood hasn't played the remix card, has it?

[m450n]

Oct 3, 2020 14:30:27 GMT -5 m450n said:

Oct 3, 2020 13:05:59 GMT -5 amid said:

the fact that Savage Love and Savage Mode II are the two biggest stories this week and are both challenging for #1 on different charts is confusing the s**t out of me

What is up with the music industry's fascination with the word 'Savage' also...

I'm surprised the internet hasn't collectively decided to cancel that word considering its negative definition throughout history.

Megan thee Stallion & Beyonce, BLACKPINK, Jason Derulo & BTS, 21 Savage have all profited off the use of the word in the last year...

I understand that it is not on the same level as other slurs, but i'm surprised that people pay no mind to how casually it is used, most of the time it literally could be replaced with any other word ('Savage Love' and 'Pretty Savage' especially, could have went with any other word)

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Oct 4, 2020 2:10:25 GMT -5 m450n said:

Oct 3, 2020 14:30:27 GMT -5 m450n said:

What is up with the music industry's fascination with the word 'Savage' also...

I'm surprised the internet hasn't collectively decided to cancel that word considering its negative definition throughout history.

Megan thee Stallion & Beyonce, BLACKPINK, Jason Derulo & BTS, 21 Savage have all profited off the use of the word in the last year...

I understand that it is not on the same level as other slurs, but i'm surprised that people pay no mind to how casually it is used, most of the time it literally could be replaced with any other word ('Savage Love' and 'Pretty Savage' especially, could have went with any other word)

I think in this case, a lot of people - especially the gay community - has helped reclaim the word and any negative connotations associated with it. Most people when they hear something was "savage", it's more akin to "slay". Also bias here but for me at least, 'she/he/they/I was a savage' is cooler to read and say than 'she/he/they/I slayed'

[m450n]

Oct 4, 2020 2:16:06 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Oct 4, 2020 2:10:25 GMT -5 m450n said:

Megan thee Stallion & Beyonce, BLACKPINK, Jason Derulo & BTS, 21 Savage have all profited off the use of the word in the last year...

I understand that it is not on the same level as other slurs, but i'm surprised that people pay no mind to how casually it is used, most of the time it literally could be replaced with any other word ('Savage Love' and 'Pretty Savage' especially, could have went with any other word)

I think in this case, a lot of people - especially the gay community - has helped reclaim the word and any negative connotations associated with it. Most people when they hear something was "savage", it's more akin to "slay". Also bias here but for me at least, 'she/he/they/I was a savage' is cooler to read and say than 'she/he/they/I slayed'

But it's not their word to reclaim. Colonists called Indigenous peoples from America the word.

[smallbubble]

The complete exclusion of UGC is to be blamed for the weak chart we are having right now (which gives stan-driven songs a much easier time to snatch NO.1, shock). WAP lost about 10% (partial UGC weighting)/25% (Full UGC weighting used in 2019) of its points during the last two weeks due to this stupid rule change. Also it doesn't help that it's already October and no major artists would release their project during this time of the year...(Drake, where is your album )

[kimberly]

Oct 4, 2020 2:17:43 GMT -5 m450n said:

Oct 4, 2020 2:16:06 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

I think in this case, a lot of people - especially the gay community - has helped reclaim the word and any negative connotations associated with it. Most people when they hear something was "savage", it's more akin to "slay". Also bias here but for me at least, 'she/he/they/I was a savage' is cooler to read and say than 'she/he/they/I slayed'

But it's not their word to reclaim. Colonists called Indigenous peoples from America the word.

this is a very interesting subject I'm not educated enough about. I've never even thought about the way "savage" is used in the Declaration of Independence when the word started popping up in pop culture. The word does have a complicated history and etymology. I haven't heard any Indigenous people around me bring this up, but I'm curious to look for some resources. before I do much of that, it sounds like the word "barbarian" or "barbaric" (which was mainly used by Greeks as a slur against Turks) for example, which is still in use with its original meaning today. "savage" seemingly lost its pejorative tone, and lost its original meaning completely, as it's derived from the word "of the woods" in Latin. just my initial thought. thanks for bringing this up!

[Normi]

Call me stupid but to me savage never had a negative meaning

[kimberly]

Oct 4, 2020 3:58:10 GMT -5 Normi said:

Call me stupid but to me savage never had a negative meaning

this is factually incorrect

[strongerq]

Oct 3, 2020 6:50:06 GMT -5 strongerq said:

18,653,335 streams for 'Savage Mode II' on Spotify US.

6,232,093 streams for 'A N N I V E R S A R Y' on Spotify US.

5,066,815 streams for 'THE ALBUM' on Spotify US.

Spotify US (day 2):

Savage Mode II - 12,086,174 (-35%)

A N N I V E R S A R Y - 3,706,995 (-41%)

THE ALBUM - 3,476,948 (-31%)

[korbel16]

Sooo is circles not surviving ... : /

[Enigma.]

I think only 2-3 songs will debut above Circles so it should be safe.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

As I suspected, the songs from 21 Savage's are going to be very frontloaded on Spotify.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Is BTS going to be credited for Savage Love though? I know it's getting a big sales boost but streams have surprisingly been underwhelming.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2020/10/04

1(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 135.41(+0.75) -

2(=) Lewis Capaldi - Before You Go 124.24(-0.68)
3(=) Harry Styles - Watermelon Sugar 119.74(-0.64)
4(=) Jawsh 685 x Jason Derulo - Savage Love (Laxed - Siren Beat) 116.65(+0.27)
5(=) Gabby Barrett - I Hope (feat. Charlie Puth) 112.52(+0.38)
6(=) DaBaby - ROCKSTAR (feat. Roddy Ricch) 107.89(-0.70)
7(=) Dua Lipa - Break My Heart 90.96(+0.10)
8(+1) Post Malone - Circles 89.22(+0.69)
9(-1) Drake - Laugh Now Cry Later (feat. Lil Durk) 89.01(+0.02)
10(=) Harry Styles - Adore You 85.63(-1.11)

12(=) 24kGoldn - Mood (feat. iann dior) 74.19(+2.00)

16(+1) Surf Mesa - ily (i love you baby) [feat. Emilee] 61.38(+1.06)

23(=) Pop Smoke - The Woo (feat. 50 Cent & Roddy Ricch) 49.26(+1.10) +

24(+1) Tim McGraw - I Called Mama 48.34(+1.27)

27(+3) Ava Max - Kings & Queens 43.24(+1.13)

28(+4) Justin Bieber - Holy (feat. Chance the Rapper) 43.24(+1.45)

30(-1) Matt Stell - Everywhere but On 42.85(+0.70)

62(+4) Sam Smith - Diamonds 26.42(+0.74)

89(+27) Shawn Mendes - Wonder 19.31(+4.68)

95(+4) Travis Scott - FRANCHISE (feat. Young Thug & M.I.A.) 18.17(+1.21)

-(-) Kelsea Ballerini - hole in the bottle 16.02(+0.83)

-(-) Megan Thee Stallion - Don't Stop (feat. Young Thug) 10.26(+4.35) +

-(-) Bad Bunny - Cancion Con Yandel 5.75(+1.10) +

-(-) Dua Lipa - Levitating (feat. DaBaby) 4.79(+1.78)

[nak]

To me, the word “savage” reminds me of 2016 when everyone was like “OMG ROASTED 🥵🥵slay me what a SAVAGEE” but also the song from Pocahontas “Savages! savages!” Very multifaceted word