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Post by degen on Dec 15, 2020 16:06:15 GMT -5
Can this hit the top ten before the Christmas Freeze? It’s looking like it might. Very interesting set up by Bieber and his team. I think they had this in mind when they launched the song (to get 2 songs in the top ten on pop radio at once).
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Post by jaffery on Dec 15, 2020 16:16:19 GMT -5
I do not understand the appeal of this song at all. This phase of JB's career has been an enormous musical step back from 2015-16, and I'm not sure why he's notching smash after smash as easily as he did during that era. Music is very subjective. You say it has been a step back, I say that it is much better than before. He is being real and vulnerable with Lonely and Monster, the song is amazing, the chorus is distinctive, and it is much better than the radio generic mess that he used to released back then, that was clearly released specifically for the radio and to become a hit. Not that Sorry, love yourself, what do you mean are horrible, but if they didn't become hits they would just be some other pop songs with the same generic message. Nothing special.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Dec 16, 2020 9:53:11 GMT -5
POP 15 11 JUSTIN BIEBER & BENNY BLANCO Lonely 8695 7217 1478 40.931 + 221 spins + 57 bullet + 1.785 audience
HOT AC 16 18 JUSTIN BIEBER & BENNY BLANCO Lonely 1663 1630 33 6.051 + 25 spins + 18 bullet + 0.046 audience
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Post by kalmanta on Dec 16, 2020 10:44:26 GMT -5
I do not understand the appeal of this song at all. This phase of JB's career has been an enormous musical step back from 2015-16, and I'm not sure why he's notching smash after smash as easily as he did during that era. Music is very subjective. You say it has been a step back, I say that it is much better than before. He is being real and vulnerable with Lonely and Monster, the song is amazing, the chorus is distinctive, and it is much better than the radio generic mess that he used to released back then, that was clearly released specifically for the radio and to become a hit. Not that Sorry, love yourself, what do you mean are horrible, but if they didn't become hits they would just be some other pop songs with the same generic message. Nothing special. The production on Sorry alone makes it more memorable than any song he put out since then. Lonely sounds like a Lewis Capaldi leftover. And what is so special about him constantly reminding us how hard his life was/is? We get it already.
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Post by Henry Suárez on Dec 16, 2020 12:45:37 GMT -5
I do not understand the appeal of this song at all. This phase of JB's career has been an enormous musical step back from 2015-16, and I'm not sure why he's notching smash after smash as easily as he did during that era. Music is very subjective. You say it has been a step back, I say that it is much better than before. He is being real and vulnerable with Lonely and Monster, the song is amazing, the chorus is distinctive, and it is much better than the radio generic mess that he used to released back then, that was clearly released specifically for the radio and to become a hit. Not that Sorry, love yourself, what do you mean are horrible, but if they didn't become hits they would just be some other pop songs with the same generic message. Nothing special. Wtf!? While I like his newer songs, they have nothing on Sorry, Love Yourself and WDYM, nothing, don't know why you need to bash them to justify your post.
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Post by crofts1 on Dec 16, 2020 23:09:57 GMT -5
tbh I don't listen to WDYM or Sorry anymore they sound kinda dated. Neither would smash that hard now it's 2020 pop music isn't in. It's fine if you don't like his new music just ignore it. I don't get why some keep comparing with 2015, he's not going for that sound and if he does others are going to complain he's stuck.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Dec 17, 2020 14:32:19 GMT -5
POP 15 11 JUSTIN BIEBER & BENNY BLANCO Lonely 8929 7425 1504 42.712 + 234 spins + 26 bullet + 1.781 audience
HOT AC 16 18 JUSTIN BIEBER & BENNY BLANCO Lonely 1658 1630 28 6.126 - 5 spins - 5 bullet + 0.075 audience
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Post by jaffery on Dec 17, 2020 20:11:52 GMT -5
I think Justin is releasing the lead single for the album on 1st January 2020 and the song will be called anyone.
Couple of people put some things together because of picture of a song called anyone on his set list for the New Year’s Eve concert. Earlier in the year in April he Was on an Instagram live and hailey was asking him to sing the song he had recorded that day called anyone, saying that it was her favourite song, but he implied he couldn’t sing it because it was a single.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Dec 17, 2020 20:41:16 GMT -5
I think Justin is releasing the lead single for the album on 1st January 2020 and the song will be called anyone. But that date already happened
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Post by jaffery on Dec 17, 2020 22:39:31 GMT -5
I think Justin is releasing the lead single for the album on 1st January 2020 and the song will be called anyone. But that date already happened This is very true. Add like 365 days to that
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Post by Anticonformity on Dec 18, 2020 2:10:09 GMT -5
I think Justin is releasing the lead single for the album on 1st January 2020 and the song will be called anyone. But that date already happened I was like OMFG WE ARE GONNA REPEAT THIS YEAR? While Changes isn't my fave of his at all, it gave some bops and one of his best ever songs : Intentions I hope Lonely is the direction he leans more along with uptempo BOPS... I would die for another Backpack (aka his best song)
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Post by Leo ✔ on Dec 18, 2020 8:52:39 GMT -5
POP 15 11 JUSTIN BIEBER & BENNY BLANCO Lonely 9225 7591 1634 44.262 + 296 spins + 130 bullet + 1.550 audience
HOT AC 16 18 JUSTIN BIEBER & BENNY BLANCO Lonely 1652 1635 17 6.005 - 6 spins - 11 bullet - 0.121 audience
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Post by Henry Suárez on Dec 18, 2020 11:52:12 GMT -5
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Post by jaffery on Dec 18, 2020 12:02:10 GMT -5
Amazing. Idk how on earth is has such high familiarity when it has smaller audience than most the songs on the csllout sheet. But these are really really good call outs I believe
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Post by degen on Dec 18, 2020 12:33:00 GMT -5
It kind of sounds like a signature Bieber redemption track. Hasn’t he had a few of these now where he discusses the narrative of his fame and mistakes of the past, etc. it’s his signature.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 13:52:00 GMT -5
I initially thought the great updates on this were suspicious, but those callout scores explain everything. We’re looking at a future #1 candidate in regards to pop airplay.
He should not release anything new for a while, between this, Holy, and Monster, Justin has more than enough going for him as it is. I say leave the public thirsty for this rumored “pop leaning” single. It’ll go straight to number 1 after this approaches a peak.
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Post by Henry Suárez on Dec 18, 2020 13:58:23 GMT -5
I initially thought the great updates on this were suspicious, but those callout scores explain everything. We’re looking at a future #1 candidate in regards to pop airplay. He should not release anything new for a while, between this, Holy, and Monster, Justin has more than enough going for him as it is. I say leave the public thirsty for this rumored “pop leaning” single. It’ll go straight to number 1 after this approaches a peak. Definitely Bieber still has that "it" factor this late into his career, after so many hit songs, wow, and looking at those callouts the gp still liking his music.
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Post by crofts1 on Dec 18, 2020 15:51:35 GMT -5
degen Justin has never released a "redemption" track Lonely is the first, there's "I Show You" but the lyrics are vague "My life is a movie and everyone's watchin". He has however talked about his past in interviews Someone posted a link but since they don't archive past weeks on that site, I post a screenshot of Lonely's callout debut here. Net positive is very good 47.8..#3 out of 14 songs. Heavy burn is quite concerning 11.5 when it hasn't reached top 10 compared to Holy's low 9.1 (btw Holy has improved to #5 on net positive) Attachment Deleted
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Post by pnobelysk on Dec 19, 2020 12:03:21 GMT -5
tbh I don't listen to WDYM or Sorry anymore they sound kinda dated. Neither would smash that hard now it's 2020 pop music isn't in. It's fine if you don't like his new music just ignore it. I don't get why some keep comparing with 2015, he's not going for that sound and if he does others are going to complain he's stuck. I think the 2015 comparisons happen because that’s when many members here last enjoyed his music and saw a lot of potential for him that seems gone. I agree with them. I’m cool with lonely but think holy and monster are atrocious. It’s hard not to laugh and yummy and intentions is fine? I just haven’t been feeling him the last year compared to the rest of his career.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Dec 19, 2020 18:34:09 GMT -5
POP 15 11 JUSTIN BIEBER & BENNY BLANCO Lonely 9477 7754 1723 45.668 + 252 spins + 89 bullet + 1.406 audience
HOT AC 16 18 JUSTIN BIEBER & BENNY BLANCO Lonely 1640 1639 1 6.032 - 12 spins - 16 bullet + 0.027 audience
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Post by g8erboi on Dec 19, 2020 18:50:24 GMT -5
So glad this is testing well and has a clear path to #1. A few weeks ago I thought this was going to underperform, especially with Holy and Monster in the mix, but this might actually become the most successful of the three.
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Dec 20, 2020 3:49:05 GMT -5
So glad this is testing well and has a clear path to #1. A few weeks ago I thought this was going to underperform, especially with Holy and Monster in the mix, but this might actually become the most successful of the three. "Holy" is also probably gonna hit #1, too. I'm shook that Bieber & Grande have two singles as leads testing well & performing well at the same time, its cool
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Post by Leo ✔ on Dec 20, 2020 13:54:29 GMT -5
POP 13 9 JUSTIN BIEBER & BENNY BLANCO Lonely 9732 7925 1807 46.851 + 255 spins + 83 bullet + 1.183 audience
HOT AC 16 18 JUSTIN BIEBER & BENNY BLANCO Lonely 1636 1642 -6 6.083 - 4 spins - 7 bullet + 0.051 audience
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Post by Henry Suárez on Dec 20, 2020 16:19:10 GMT -5
It's rising soo fast on Pop (top 10 today!) but doing poorly on Hot AC, you would think this is a fit for the format.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Dec 20, 2020 23:10:18 GMT -5
how many Top 10's does this make for Bieber now?
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Post by Henry Suárez on Dec 20, 2020 23:27:58 GMT -5
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Post by Fire on Dec 20, 2020 23:45:33 GMT -5
why does this have a higher burn rate than holy lol
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Post by jaffery on Dec 21, 2020 7:24:33 GMT -5
why does this have a higher burn rate than holy lol It went straight to a 94% familiarity rate somehow. I think the higher the familiarity the higher the burn rate? Idk if it works like that
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Post by Leo ✔ on Dec 21, 2020 9:29:57 GMT -5
POP 13 9 JUSTIN BIEBER & BENNY BLANCO Lonely 9828 8206 1622 47.002 + 96 spins - 185 bullet + 0.151 audience
HOT AC 17 17 JUSTIN BIEBER & BENNY BLANCO Lonely 1620 1624 -4 5.959 - 16 spins + 2 bullet - 0.124 audience
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Post by Leo ✔ on Dec 22, 2020 16:16:44 GMT -5
POP 13 9 JUSTIN BIEBER & BENNY BLANCO Lonely 10068 8475 1593 48.005 + 240 spins - 29 bullet + 1.003 audience
HOT AC 18 18 JUSTIN BIEBER & BENNY BLANCO Lonely 1587 1638 -51 5.768 - 33 spins - 47 bullet - 0.191 audience
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