Billboard Hot 100: 11/07/2020

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Oct 28, 2020 20:14:26 GMT -5 fridayteenage said:

The sexist country radio that made Jesus, Remember, Cheats, Wasted, Small, Girl, Name, Dream, Told, Cowboy, Home, Undo, Mama's, Good, Blown, Cadillacs, See, Guns, Smoke, Heartbeat, Church, Laundry top 2?

Women finding success doesn't disprove country radio having rather sexist agendas. Remember in 2018: Meant to Be was the longest reigning number one while artists like Kacey Musgraves are literally black-balled by the industry. For the longest time, outside of Carrie Underwood, the only women who got successful country hits were pop singers crossing over.

[monkeydluffy]

Oct 28, 2020 20:14:00 GMT -5 rosalina4812 said:

Twitter is making big noise because Twice, a kpop girl group, has a decent shot at charting this week. They only need 22 points. That would make them the fourth kpop group ever to chart on the Hot 100.

As someone who lives in South Korea and hears K-POP everywhere, something like this happening would be really cool to see cause TWICE has been grinding hard here for almost the past 6 years.

[thegreatdivine]

Oct 28, 2020 18:21:56 GMT -5 sheardbeard said:

Oct 28, 2020 15:20:10 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

How does he have a much thicker Southern accent when he sings than when he speaks?

That's more a question for him than for me, don't you think?

[sheardbeard]

Oct 28, 2020 23:38:07 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Oct 28, 2020 18:21:56 GMT -5 sheardbeard said:

How does he have a much thicker Southern accent when he sings than when he speaks?

That's more a question for him than for me, don't you think?

I guess so. If you could relay my question to him, that would be great.

[singingrulebritannia]

Oct 28, 2020 18:21:56 GMT -5 sheardbeard said:

Oct 28, 2020 15:20:10 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

How does he have a much thicker Southern accent when he sings than when he speaks?

I feel like that's not an uncommon occurrence. There's a cultural expectation/pressure for country musicians to vocalize a certain way in their songs, but not as much for how they speak. Disparities between singing and talking accents is very frequent in rock, and lesser but noticeably often in rap too, for similar reasons.

[thelegends]

Oct 28, 2020 20:14:00 GMT -5 rosalina4812 said:

Twitter is making big noise because Twice, a kpop girl group, has a decent shot at charting this week. They only need 22 points. That would make them the fourth kpop group ever to chart on the Hot 100.

Who is the other one aside from BTS and Blackpink?

[thelegends]

Oct 28, 2020 20:14:26 GMT -5 fridayteenage said:

The sexist country radio that made Jesus, Remember, Cheats, Wasted, Small, Girl, Name, Dream, Told, Cowboy, Home, Undo, Mama's, Good, Blown, Cadillacs, See, Guns, Smoke, Heartbeat, Church, Laundry top 2?

Tell me, what is Kelsea Ballerini’s peak on the Hot 100 not including “The Feeling”?

[𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤]

Oct 29, 2020 1:06:10 GMT -5 thelegends said:

Oct 28, 2020 20:14:00 GMT -5 rosalina4812 said:

Twitter is making big noise because Twice, a kpop girl group, has a decent shot at charting this week. They only need 22 points. That would make them the fourth kpop group ever to chart on the Hot 100.

Who is the other one aside from BTS and Blackpink?

Wonder Girls, I’m pretty sure

[NeRD]

Discount it Luke!

[thegreatdivine]

Oct 29, 2020 0:17:05 GMT -5 singingrulebritannia said:

Oct 28, 2020 18:21:56 GMT -5 sheardbeard said:

How does he have a much thicker Southern accent when he sings than when he speaks?

I feel like that's not an uncommon occurrence. There's a cultural expectation/pressure for country musicians to vocalize a certain way in their songs, but not as much for how they speak. Disparities between singing and talking accents is very frequent in rock, and lesser but noticeably often in rap too, for similar reasons.

There's an answer for you, sheardbeard.

[kimberly]

[Lost In Musical Reverie]

"Old Town Road" being a country song with trap influences is no different than the plethora of bro-country songs that heavily borrowed from hip hop influences.

Don't want to extend the discussion any further- just giving my take on it.

[leoapp]

So before Amazed in 2000, what was the last solo country song to top Hot 100?

[kierz7]

Oct 29, 2020 4:52:11 GMT -5 leoapp said:

So before Amazed in 2000, what was the last solo country song to top Hot 100?

• Kenny Rogers: Lady (1980)

• Kenny Rogers & Dolly Parton: Islands In The Stream (1983)

Both songs topped the Hot 100 + Country charts.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Oct 29, 2020 5:51:05 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

Oct 29, 2020 4:52:11 GMT -5 leoapp said:

So before Amazed in 2000, what was the last solo country song to top Hot 100?

• Kenny Rogers: Lady (1980)

• Kenny Rogers & Dolly Parton: Islands In The Stream (1983)

Both songs topped the Hot 100 + Country charts.

Did "9 to 5" not count as a number one country hit?

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Oct 29, 2020 1:08:31 GMT -5 thelegends said:

Oct 28, 2020 20:14:26 GMT -5 fridayteenage said:

The sexist country radio that made Jesus, Remember, Cheats, Wasted, Small, Girl, Name, Dream, Told, Cowboy, Home, Undo, Mama's, Good, Blown, Cadillacs, See, Guns, Smoke, Heartbeat, Church, Laundry top 2?

Tell me, what is Kelsea Ballerini’s peak on the Hot 100 not including “The Feeling”?

Peter Pan is currently her highest charting hit on the Hot 100. It peaked at #35 in 2016. Love Me Like You Mean It, Miss Me More, and This Feeling are her only other singles to crack the Top 50.

She really has deserved much better. Considering 2020 has been much better for women in country than the last few years, I wouldn't be surprised if she started really breaking through soon. Hole In The Bottle seems to be doing well on country radio right now.

[nak]

Oct 28, 2020 21:49:34 GMT -5 jodakyellow said:

Oct 28, 2020 21:44:08 GMT -5 nak said:

I'm pretty sure Inside Your Heaven is the most recent #1 song I have never heard. If a wasn't a chart stalker I'd never know it lol. 

I refuse to acknowledge a world in which there are people who never had Some Hearts on CD

My mom bought that CD at Cracker Barrel and listened to it many times but I never remembered Inside Your Heaven! I remember loving "Wasted"

[nak]

I doubt Luke Combs can make it #1 from one day worth of discounts.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Spotify 10/28/20

1(=) Ariana Grande - positions 1,467,474 (-112,227)
2(+1) Internet Money - Lemonade 1,082,428 (-15,571)
3(+1) 24kGoldn - Mood 1,065,305 (+16,189)
4(-2) Luke Combs - Forever After All 1,049,866 (-94,533)
5(=) Pop Smoke - For the Night 953,967 (+5,119)
6(=) Cardi B - WAP 898,601 (+1,133)
7(=) Drake - Laugh Now Cry Later 854,559 (-7,625)
8(=) Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love 822,091 (+9,299)
9(=) Jack Harlow - Tyler Herro 722,799 (-26,503)
10(=) Justin Bieber - Holy 678,288 (-18,588)

Others:
11(+1) Justin Bieber - Lonely 621,888 (+10,685)
13(=) Ritt Momney - Put Your Records On 602,055 (+1,739)
14(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 601,153 (+1,869)
15(=) DaBaby - ROCKSTAR 589,282 (+5,607)
16(=) Conan Gray - Heather 574,180 (+4,377)
18(=) Tate McRae - you broke me first 544,415 (-12,652)
19(=) Fleetwood Mac - Dreams 543,956 (-1,376)
21(+1) BTS - Dynamite 522,274 (-70)
23(+3) Machine Gun Kelly - my ex's best friend 500,530 (-3,657)
24(=) 21 Savage - Mr. Right Now 499,990 (-12,149)
26(-3) Ty Dolla $ign - Spicy 494,726 (-24,344)
27(-2) The Kid LAROI - SO DONE 493,641 (-13,595)
28(=) Shawn Mendes - Wonder 487,738 (-5,392)
29(=) Polo G - Martin & Gina 486,073 (+2,335)
30(=) Clairo - Sofia 484,801 (+10,189)
32(+1) Money Man - 24 450,287 (-1,948)
33(-1) 21 Savage - Runnin 448,070 (-16,702)
36(=) DDG - Moonwalking in the Calabasas 421,279 (+725)
40(=) Ashnikko - Daisy 398,098 (+5,794)
42(-1) DaBaby - PRACTICE 389,914 (+919)
46(+4) Harry Styles - Golden 377,853 (+10,469)
48(=) Big Sean - Wolves 372,892 (+3,239)
51(-7) Luke Combs - Better Together 362,800 (-20,209)
52(-3) James Arthur - Train Wreck 359,196 (-8,495)
53(+5) CORPSE and Savage Ga$p - E-GIRLS ARE RUINING MY LIFE! 358,761 (+10,522)
54(-1) Miley Cyrus - Midnight Sky 358,026 (-4,877)
55(+4) Dua Lipa - Levitating 357,827 (+10,260)
57(=) Jawsh 465 - Savage Love 350,639 (+1,588)
63(=) BØRNS - Electric Love 326,303 (-3,852)
66(-2) Joel Corry - Head & Heart 312,239 (-6,403)
68(-1) Wallows - Are You Bored Yet? 306,775 (-1,387)
74(-3) Machine Gun Kelly - forget me too 294,612 (-6,763)
78(+4) The Neighbourhood - Daddy Issues 292,843 (+6,595)
84(-1) Lee Brice - One of Them Girls 283,058 (-1,255)
86(+5) Travis Scott - FRANCHISE 280,656 (+4,899)
91(-1) Lil Eazzyy - Onna Come Up 276,977 (+1,220)
92(-5) Morgan Wallen - More Than My Hometown 275,842 (-2,716)
96(+5) CJ - Whoopty 266,856 (+5,113)

103(+1) Lil Peep - Star Shopping 259,339 (-20)
104(-6) Maluma - Hawái 257,195 (-5,512)
109(-3) Jason Derulo - Take You Dancing 253,520 (-3,587)
122(-19) Luke Combs, Amanda Shires - Without You 236,425 (-23,246)
130(-4) salem ilese - Mad at Disney 229,299 (-3,010)
145(-5) Morgan Wallen - Cover Me Up 219,636 (-3,386)
146(+9) Fousheé - Deep End 219,020 (+6,382)
154(-4) MAX - Blueberry Eyes 216,540 (+1,856)

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Oct 29, 2020 7:52:22 GMT -5 @bamatom48 said:

Oct 29, 2020 1:08:31 GMT -5 thelegends said:

Tell me, what is Kelsea Ballerini’s peak on the Hot 100 not including “The Feeling”?

Peter Pan is currently her highest charting hit on the Hot 100. It peaked at #35 in 2016. Love Me Like You Mean It, Miss Me More, and This Feeling are her only other singles to crack the Top 50.

She really has deserved much better. Considering 2020 has been much better for women in country than the last few years, I wouldn't be surprised if she started really breaking through soon. Hole In The Bottle seems to be doing well on country radio right now.

It's a shame 'the other girl' didn't do much on pop radio. Was really hoping it would be her breakthrough hit

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Oct 29, 2020 8:23:32 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Oct 29, 2020 7:52:22 GMT -5 @bamatom48 said:

Peter Pan is currently her highest charting hit on the Hot 100. It peaked at #35 in 2016. Love Me Like You Mean It, Miss Me More, and This Feeling are her only other singles to crack the Top 50.

She really has deserved much better. Considering 2020 has been much better for women in country than the last few years, I wouldn't be surprised if she started really breaking through soon. Hole In The Bottle seems to be doing well on country radio right now.

It's a shame 'the other girl' didn't do much on pop radio. Was really hoping it would be her breakthrough hit

Yeah, I thought 'the other girl' would at least take off at pop radio. I also don't know why the more country sounding 'the other mix' wasn't promoted to country radio. I still think it could've been a success. I really liked the song.

[Raccoon]

[strongerq]

Oct 28, 2020 20:34:19 GMT -5 kimberly said:

the issue is, Billboard doesn't have set criteria—they let OTR reach #19 on Country before deciding it was too... "r&b/hip-hop" for it. if you know what I mean.

THIS right here.

If it never charted on Country, it would have been "fine". Billboard has made so many bad decisions regarding genres, and this would be another one.

BUT they let it chart and when it was going big they decided it was not country enough.

Like at least try not to make it obvious.

[Gary]

That is why for this discussion I posted info about radio chart runs instead.

That is probably a better indicator about songs that are genre appropriate than a manual Billboard check

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Oct 25, 2020 11:12:16 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Really hope Jack Harlow has a sustainable career from here. The only notable white rappers that got big in the 2010s were Macklemore, Iggy Azalea, and G-Eazy, plus Machine Gun Kelly who's not even making rap music right now.

UPDATE: forgot about bbno$, who I think is a bit of a guilty pleasure but I still think they're pretty funny. So Jack Harlow and bbno$, the only enjoyable mainstream white rappers right now.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2020/10/29

1(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 119.23(-0.39)
2(=) 24kGoldn - Mood (feat. iann dior) 118.47(+1.35)
3(=) Gabby Barrett - I Hope (feat. Charlie Puth) 117.30(+0.54)
4(=) Jawsh 685 x Jason Derulo - Savage Love (Laxed - Siren Beat) 101.13(-0.29)
5(=) Lewis Capaldi - Before You Go 100.28(-0.93)
6(=) Drake - Laugh Now Cry Later (feat. Lil Durk) 96.91(+0.44)
7(=) Harry Styles - Watermelon Sugar 94.15(-1.34)
8(=) Chris Brown & Young Thug - Go Crazy 82.90(+0.97)
9(=) Surf Mesa - ily (i love you baby) [feat. Emilee] 82.72(+1.22)
10(=) DaBaby - ROCKSTAR (feat. Roddy Ricch) 75.34(-1.85)

12(+1) Ava Max - Kings & Queens 73.81(+1.69)

20(+1) Matt Stell - Everywhere but On 51.84(+1.34)

22(=) Russell Dickerson - Love You Like I Used To 50.17(+0.83)

23(=) Kane Brown, Swae Lee, Khalid - Be Like That 49.60(+0.72)

38(+2) Ne-Yo & Jeremih - U 2 Luv 34.81(+0.76)

49(+6) Ariana Grande - positions 30.37(+5.05) +

68(+1) Internet Money & Gunna - Lemonade (feat. Don Toliver & NAV) 23.09(+0.94)

-(-) 21 Savage & Metro Boomin - Mr. Right Now (feat. Drake) 11.92(+0.78)

-(-) Harry Styles - Golden 7.07(+0.71)

-(-) Black Eyed Peas - Feel The Beat f/Maluma 6.61(+0.89) +

[strongerq]

Regarding Spotify Streaming

From a HitsDD article, this is what Daniel Ek (founder & CEO) said:

"From a content consumption standpoint, global consumption hours surpassed pre-COVID levels during the quarter, and all regions have fully recovered,” the company reported. “Consumption trends by platform have returned to normal usage, including in-car listening hours which is now above the pre-COVID peak. Usage on connected devices inside the home, which saw a spike during lockdown, also remains above pre-COVID levels."

Link: hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=323830&title=SPOTIFY-BASKS-IN-SUNNY-Q3-RESULTS

[lazer]

Oct 29, 2020 9:52:02 GMT -5 strongerq said:

Regarding Spotify Streaming

From a HitsDD article, this is what Daniel Ek (founder & CEO) said:

"From a content consumption standpoint, global consumption hours surpassed pre-COVID levels during the quarter, and all regions have fully recovered,” the company reported. “Consumption trends by platform have returned to normal usage, including in-car listening hours which is now above the pre-COVID peak. Usage on connected devices inside the home, which saw a spike during lockdown, also remains above pre-COVID levels."

Link: hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=323830&title=SPOTIFY-BASKS-IN-SUNNY-Q3-RESULTS

Now is the time for Billboard to weigh streaming more.

[jebsib]

"As Americans are getting back on the road, broadcast radio has made a near complete recovery, with listening back to over 90% of pre-pandemic levels."
@maryberner. #RadioShow2020

Radio weighing more soon?

[thelegends]

Oct 29, 2020 7:52:22 GMT -5 @bamatom48 said:

Oct 29, 2020 1:08:31 GMT -5 thelegends said:

Tell me, what is Kelsea Ballerini’s peak on the Hot 100 not including “The Feeling”?

Peter Pan is currently her highest charting hit on the Hot 100. It peaked at #35 in 2016. Love Me Like You Mean It, Miss Me More, and This Feeling are her only other singles to crack the Top 50.

She really has deserved much better. Considering 2020 has been much better for women in country than the last few years, I wouldn't be surprised if she started really breaking through soon. Hole In The Bottle seems to be doing well on country radio right now.

She’s been a tragedy of country radio. She’s much better than Carrie or Gabby.