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Post by thelegends on Oct 29, 2020 10:43:50 GMT -5
Really hope Jack Harlow has a sustainable career from here. The only notable white rappers that got big in the 2010s were Macklemore, Iggy Azalea, and G-Eazy, plus Machine Gun Kelly who's not even making rap music right now. : forgot about bbno$, who I think is a bit of a guilty pleasure but I still think they're pretty funny. So Jack Harlow and bbno$, the only enjoyable mainstream white rappers right now. bbno$ is an OHW currently. |
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Post by lazer on Oct 29, 2020 10:47:28 GMT -5
"As Americans are getting back on the road, broadcast radio has made a near complete recovery, with listening back to over 90% of pre-pandemic levels." @maryberner. #RadioShow2020 Radio weighing more soon? Radio audience numbers are lower than ever, there is no way radio should be weighed more with tragic numbers right now and stagnation of leftover songs from last year. If anything, streaming should be weighed more since the numbers recovered to pre-Covid levels. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2020 11:23:11 GMT -5
Peter Pan is currently her highest charting hit on the Hot 100. It peaked at #35 in 2016. Love Me Like You Mean It, Miss Me More, and This Feeling are her only other singles to crack the Top 50. She really has deserved much better. Considering 2020 has been much better for women in country than the last few years, I wouldn't be surprised if she started really breaking through soon. Hole In The Bottle seems to be doing well on country radio right now. Sheβs been a tragedy of country radio. Sheβs much better than Carrie or Gabby. I think calling Kelsea better than Carrie Underwood is a bit of a stretch |
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Post by After Minutes on Oct 29, 2020 11:41:56 GMT -5
Imo, the original OTR wasn't country - it was country-inspired trap and at the end of the day it was billboard's mistake that they included it on the chart, but in reality removing it was far worse. But the remix I think could be called a trap-country fusion due to the slight but noticable changes to the production and the addition of Billy Ray, who, as an established country artist, helped in making the song flow more as a country song, and that version should have been included either way.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Oct 29, 2020 12:07:53 GMT -5
Imo, the original OTR wasn't country - it was trap-inspired country and at the end of the day it was billboard's mistake that they included it on the chart, but in reality removing it was far worse. But the remix I think could be called a pop-country fusion due to the slight but noticable changes to the production and the addition of Billy Ray, who, as an established country artist, helped in making the song flow more as a country song, and that version should have been included either way. I canβt help but wonder whether the response from all sides would have been the same if it were by a white artist. The music, yeah, was trap inspired, but havenβt there been similarly sounding beats in actual country hits in recent years? |
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Post by jodakyellow on Oct 29, 2020 12:08:58 GMT -5
"As Americans are getting back on the road, broadcast radio has made a near complete recovery, with listening back to over 90% of pre-pandemic levels." @maryberner. #RadioShow2020 Radio weighing more soon? Radio audience numbers are lower than ever, there is no way radio should be weighed more with tragic numbers right now and stagnation of leftover songs from last year. If anything, streaming should be weighed more since the numbers recovered to pre-Covid levels. I agree with you in principle, but the post youβre quoting literally says radio has recovered to pre-Covid levels |
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Post by iggyamo on Oct 29, 2020 12:28:12 GMT -5
Look Over Your Shoulder released, and I hope this becomes a hit, especially around the US voting season, unfortunately it doesnβt seem to be getting as much traction as it should. We need new Kendrick now more than ever
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Post by After Minutes on Oct 29, 2020 12:31:36 GMT -5
Imo, the original OTR wasn't country - it was trap-inspired country and at the end of the day it was billboard's mistake that they included it on the chart, but in reality removing it was far worse. But the remix I think could be called a pop-country fusion due to the slight but noticable changes to the production and the addition of Billy Ray, who, as an established country artist, helped in making the song flow more as a country song, and that version should have been included either way. I canβt help but wonder whether the response from all sides would have been the same if it were by a white artist. The music, yeah, was trap inspired, but havenβt there been similarly sounding beats in actual country hits in recent years? Unpopular opinion, but I think that billboard would've classified it as a rock song if that were the case, with it sampling NIN and the rap/pop/punk/rock trend exploding about that time, with white rappers in particular jumping on that trend. |
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Post by fridayteenage on Oct 29, 2020 12:45:58 GMT -5
Imo, the original OTR wasn't country - it was trap-inspired country and at the end of the day it was billboard's mistake that they included it on the chart, but in reality removing it was far worse. But the remix I think could be called a pop-country fusion due to the slight but noticable changes to the production and the addition of Billy Ray, who, as an established country artist, helped in making the song flow more as a country song, and that version should have been included either way. I canβt help but wonder whether the response from all sides would have been the same if it were by a white artist. The music, yeah, was trap inspired, but havenβt there been similarly sounding beats in actual country hits in recent years? Well if it was a newbie whose other songs were in the vein of Panini and Rodeo, I don't think country radio would've played it. |
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Post by kierz7 on Oct 29, 2020 15:05:57 GMT -5
Imo, the original OTR wasn't country - it was trap-inspired country and at the end of the day it was billboard's mistake that they included it on the chart, but in reality removing it was far worse. But the remix I think could be called a pop-country fusion due to the slight but noticable changes to the production and the addition of Billy Ray, who, as an established country artist, helped in making the song flow more as a country song, and that version should have been included either way. Yet The Weekndβs βBlinding Lightsβ is classified as R&B and had no problem being plastered atop the R&B/Hip-Hop charts for a dozen weeks despite minuscule Urban airplay? I know for a fact that if βOTRβ had debuted with Billy Rae Cyrus or another White Country act from the very beginning they wouldβve had no issue classifying it as Country. I cant wait for βFlorida Georgia Lineβ to release the exact same song and, well... |
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Post by imbondz on Oct 29, 2020 15:35:15 GMT -5
Who cares
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Post by After Minutes on Oct 29, 2020 15:35:43 GMT -5
Imo, the original OTR wasn't country - it was trap-inspired country and at the end of the day it was billboard's mistake that they included it on the chart, but in reality removing it was far worse. But the remix I think could be called a pop-country fusion due to the slight but noticable changes to the production and the addition of Billy Ray, who, as an established country artist, helped in making the song flow more as a country song, and that version should have been included either way. Yet The Weekndβs βBlinding Lightsβ is classified as R&B and had no problem being plastered atop the R&B/Hip-Hop charts for a dozen weeks despite minuscule Urban airplay? I know for a fact that if βOTRβ had debuted with Billy Rae Cyrus or another White Country act from the very beginning they wouldβve had no issue classifying it as Country. I cant wait for βFlorida Georgia Lineβ to release the exact same song and, well... I don't exactly get the point about Blinding Lights, because it stems from an entirely different issue, that billboard simply ignores when artists switch their genre, even when that's more ona song-by-song basis, like with Abel where, for example, songs like The Hills or Starboy absolutely had the right to chart there, but where Blinding Lights or I Feel It Coming shouldn't have appeared there. As I stated, in my opinion a point can be made for the remix charting on that chart, while the original, in my opinion, shouldn't have, due to it being simply too short and the ties to country being present predominantly in the lyrics. The remix leaned into the country elements with the introduction of Billy Ray Cyrus and the production being altered, and, most importantly, increasing the song's runtime. From this point on, there was absolutely no reason for the song not to chart on the country chart, and its disclusion absolutely could've been motivated by prejudices. |
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Post by οΌ³ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½π€ο½ο½ on Oct 29, 2020 18:12:29 GMT -5
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Post by Choco on Oct 29, 2020 18:45:19 GMT -5
So it's not even close really.
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Post by GP on Oct 29, 2020 18:50:03 GMT -5
So it's not even close really. Still not, but we never know with D2C sales |
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Post by whales10268 on Oct 29, 2020 19:02:26 GMT -5
Is it sexist to not put females on country radio as much as males? So many country fans I know say female country is βpop with a twangβ and real country is by men.
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Post by kimberly on Oct 29, 2020 19:03:05 GMT -5
Is it sexist to not put females on country radio as much as males? So many country fans I know say female country is βpop with a twangβ and real country is by men. congratulations, you know sexist people |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Oct 29, 2020 19:14:46 GMT -5
We may as well use this same reply in every thread on here and shut the whole damn board down. Itβs a discussion forum. Weβre having a discussion. If you donβt care, go somewhere else. |
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Post by jodakyellow on Oct 29, 2020 19:29:54 GMT -5
Is it sexist to not put females on country radio as much as males? So many country fans I know say female country is βpop with a twangβ and real country is by men. Lmao what kind of question is this... Maybe part of why they think that is because country radio isnβt playing a variety of women, and hearing more female country would actually help them combat their weird sexist opinions |
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Post by renfield75 on Oct 29, 2020 19:48:40 GMT -5
Here's an interesting article from this past February about the lack of female artists on country radio: www.cmt.com/news/1817926/study-country-fans-want-more-women-on-radio/Debunks the myth that women, the core country audience, don't want to hear female voices and points of view. Apparently they do occasionally want something other than a hot guy telling them they look good drinking beer in cutoffs. Who knew? |
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Post by imbondz on Oct 29, 2020 20:26:14 GMT -5
We may as well use this same reply in every thread on here and shut the whole damn board down. Itβs a discussion forum. Weβre having a discussion. If you donβt care, go somewhere else. True |
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Oct 29, 2020 20:40:00 GMT -5
Where will Circles be?
Unless we're not seeing full streaming numbers (Amazon Music), if LC's really wanted that #1, they'd have done discount + some other 2020 ploy to push it over. I only wanted to see the closest thing to a true album track hit #1. Although the TT/Video promotion isn't that different than pushing something at radio.
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Post by iHype. on Oct 30, 2020 0:52:26 GMT -5
Life Is Good has returned to #1 on US YouTube lol. |
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Post by lazer on Oct 30, 2020 0:59:10 GMT -5
Life Is Good has returned to #1 on US YouTube lol. It's because the song keeps on appearing on the "up next" queue for a fishy reason. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Oct 30, 2020 1:33:00 GMT -5
Life Is Good has returned to #1 on US YouTube lol. It's because the song keeps on appearing on the "up next" queue for a fishy reason. Nothing "fishy" about it. That's YouTube's algorithm and you leaving your autoplay option on. Turn it off and it stops or better still, if it comes up in your up next queue, skip it. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Oct 30, 2020 1:35:11 GMT -5
Life Is Good has returned to #1 on US YouTube lol. The most-viewed music video of the year did that. Also, Life Is Good will be the highest RIAA-certified single released this year. It's currently at 7x Platinum and will probably be certified 8x Platinum before December. |
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 30, 2020 2:49:49 GMT -5
Would be great to see FAA being #1 this week and Positions next.
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Oct 30, 2020 3:02:33 GMT -5
Unless we're not seeing full streaming numbers (Amazon Music), if LC's really wanted that #1, they'd have done discount + some other 2020 ploy to push it over. I only wanted to see the closest thing to a true album track hit #1. Although the TT/Video promotion isn't that different than pushing something at radio. Well, "The Box" did technically reach #1 as an album track without a music video nor radio push, if I recall correctly. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Oct 30, 2020 3:18:18 GMT -5
Would be great to see FAA being #1 this week and Positions next. I grew to love FAA even more when I made out how lovely the lyrics are and I realized he wrote it about his wife. I'm a sucker for love songs that feel true and honest. How many songs do you see Ariana debuting in the top 10 (excluding positions)? |
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 30, 2020 3:42:07 GMT -5
One or two, definitely not as many songs in top ten as when TUN was released.
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