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Post by kimberly on Feb 6, 2021 17:53:49 GMT -5
I mean, keep in mind that NFL is a racist organization and white artists will definitely get bad press if they perform (for good reason). Maroon 5 in Atlanta garnered horrible backlash, even before the horrendous performance aired. So Taylor should approach this with caution. As much as I'd also love to see her do a 13-minute career-high set, I don't know if it would have been appropriate just yet.
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Post by tobichartmaster on Feb 6, 2021 19:54:52 GMT -5
Taylor is going full circle, means that she is reaching every major milestone and doing absolutely everything one can do/archive in this business:
- Scoring a #1 single/album in the USA: Of course she did that, 7 songs and 8 albums hit #1. In fact she can reach double digits in both metrics what puts her in an elite club
-Get a song and an album certified RIAA diamond: With SIO and Fearless she did that
-Score a Billboard year-end album: she did that with 3 different albums, more than any other artist ever
- Joining the Billboard all-time charts: #21 hot 100, #8 BB200 (fueled by the most weeks at #1 for a female), Top artist #8 (#4 female)
- Earn a Billion $: Forbes already reported 925 Million $ in total pre-tax earnings, so that might be even happening this year
- Sell 100 Million album units ww: According to her label, she sold 97 Million album units ww in Jan 2020, so she already done that
- 1 Billion $ touring revenue: Fueled by the highest grossing US tour of all-time, Taylor can become the 13th artist since Pollstar started tracking in the 90s to gross a Billion on tour as early as the touring business returns
- Sell 100 Million digital tracks in the USA: She did that, the most a lead artist ever sold in the country
- Dominate Youtube: Taylor is, as of February 2021, the most viewed female lead artist in YT history
- Dominate streaming: #1 female all-time Amazon Music, #2 female all-time on Spotify, #2 female all-time on Apple Music
- Win double digits of Grammys and AOTY: done this in 2016, has 2 AOTY‘s
- Win the most AMA‘s ever: done that, she also was named artist of the year 6 times and artist of the 2010s
- Win the most Billboard music awards ever: She done that in 2015 (later Drake took that record), was named their WOTD
- Win double digits VMA‘s and VOTY: She did that and won VOTY twice
- Win a Brit award: Yep she has one since 2015
-Win an Emmy: In her bag
-Win the IFPI award for biggest recording artist ww: Done that twice already in 2014 and 2019, next month either her or BTS get the honor
-Gain songwriter acclaim: Member of the Rolling Stones 100 best songwriters of all-time, BMI gave her an award named after her
-Set a Guiness world record: In fact, she has 8
-Dominate social media: She was once the most followed human on earth in 2016 (combining Twitter, FB, Instagram), still one of the biggest players on social media
-Cover the most significant magazines like Time, Rolling Stone, Vogue, etc: multiple times including Time POTY 2017 cover
At age 31, what is even left?
- Win an Oscar: Miss Americana is currently in conversation, but that will be hard in general to archive
-Win a GG: She was nominated 3 times already, maybe she snatch one in the future
- Do the Superbowl HT show: I guess if she wants they let her
-Headline Glastonbury: She was already booked, will do that soon
Headline Coachella: I guess they book her soon or later
Hollywood WOF star: She will get one without a question
Country HOF induction: Yes she will be inducted
Songwriter HOF: Yes she will get in
Rock‘n Roll HOF: Not sure, they seem to be like elite snobs in the panel lol
Grand ole Opry membership: hmmmmmm maybe
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Post by Choco on Feb 8, 2021 9:00:50 GMT -5
Wasn't there some sort of Coke+Taylor deal that prevented her from plausibly doing the (Pepsi) Halftime show? I seem to recall something like that but it could be an expired deal by now.
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Post by bat1990 on Feb 8, 2021 22:04:58 GMT -5
Halfway to EGOT. She just needs to pen some songs for a Best Musical-winning Broadway show and she has it in the bag.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Feb 8, 2021 22:09:33 GMT -5
What is Evermor's current SPS total? Anyone know?
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Post by neverduplicated on Feb 8, 2021 22:45:06 GMT -5
What is Evermor's current SPS total? Anyone know? 786,000 in the US
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Feb 8, 2021 23:33:08 GMT -5
Hoping she can hit 1 million sold with evermore when all is said and done.
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Post by nickd on Feb 9, 2021 1:27:32 GMT -5
tobichartmaster: I think she's actually uniquely positioned to get a very large number of Diamond certifications. In addition to Fearless and Shake It Off, 1989 is surely eligible by now, and Blank Space and Love Story must be very close to being eligible if they aren't already. I think a lot of current artists will get diamond eligible songs due to the longevity streaming provides. I believe songs like Wildest Dreams, I Don't Wanna Live Forever and I Knew You Were Trouble move around 15-20k song units per week, which is like 8-10 million units per decade. So in addition to Shake It Off, Blank Space and Love Story, I think it's inevitable that Wildest Dreams, IDWLF, IKYWT, WANEGBT, YBWM, perhaps even Style and Bad Blood and maybe even a few more will eventually become diamond eligible. But what's really interesting is how many of her albums could become diamond eligible over the next couple decades. I think her first 8 albums could all make it by the time she's in her early 50s based on their current cumulative sales and weekly SPS movements, and the fact that the weekly sales have not been decreasing for her back catalog (in fact, they've been increasing in the last 2 years).
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Post by born on Feb 9, 2021 4:48:52 GMT -5
“Love Story” remastered is rumored to be released this Friday, February 12th.
If this is true, it’s a cool decision. The Swiftie hype along with the Valentine’s Day playlisting might result in a strong streaming week!
EDIT: Some fan on Twitter pointed out that the third and final movie from the To All The Boys I've Loved Before series also comes out Friday! This would be a massive promo boost.
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Post by dante on Feb 9, 2021 7:11:00 GMT -5
Last year (or end of 2019) the halftime people did interview and said that they always send her the invite and if she ever says yes then the gig is hers. her contract with coke ended long time ago (remember the poster thing in paris in 2019 when somebody asked her to sign a poster of her in a coke ad and she declined) i think she just wants to wait for the masters or something else but i am pretty sure they would have asked her since 1989 era many times Can you provide a source for that because I haven’t heard that is how they pick? I hear the NFL gives a short list to the super bowl host city and then that city picks from that list. yeah i think this is the one i have read? www.nfl.com/news/taylor-swift-and-the-super-bowl-are-meant-to-be-0ap3000000783176
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Post by matty005 on Feb 9, 2021 7:39:05 GMT -5
Did you read the article? It says no such thing about her getting it whenever she wants. It's one person's opinion that she would be perfect for her and he predicts her to get it soon (yet, this was a couple Super Bowls ago so he was already wrong).
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Post by nickd on Feb 9, 2021 18:23:17 GMT -5
Spotify Top 50 Albums Charts Week of Jan 29-Feb 4; Evermore (week 8)
#5 (-1) United States #5 (-1) Philippines #6 (-1) Canada #7 (-2) Ireland #8 (-2) United Kingdom #8 (-2) Singapore #10 (=) Australia #10 (-4) Malaysia #11 (-1) Hong Kong #12 (-1) New Zealand #12 (=) Taiwan #13 (-1) Vietnam #14 (-1) Thailand #18 (-3) India #19 (-3) Belgium #20 (-1) South Africa #24 (-4) Netherlands #26 (-1) Israel #28 (-4) Indonesia #30 (-9) Denmark #31 (-7) Norway #33 (-6) Hungary #36 (-10) Sweden #39 (-6) Switzerland #40 (-13) Austria #41 (-11) Finland #41 (-8) Romania #47 (-6) Slovakia #48 (-13) Germany
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Post by nickd on Feb 9, 2021 18:30:40 GMT -5
Spotify Top 50 Albums Charts Week of Jan 29-Feb 4; Folklore
#14 (-2) Philippines #18 (-2) Canada #18 (-4) Ireland #22 (-3) United States #28 (-4) United Kingdom #28 (+2) Australia #28 (-2) Singapore #28 (-4) Vietnam #29 (=) Hong Kong #33 (-5) Malaysia #35 (-5) New Zealand
Spotify Top 50 Albums Charts Week of Jan 29-Feb 4; Lover
#17 (-2) Philippines #30 (=) Singapore #33 (+3) Hong Kong #37 (+3) Vietnam #48 (-1) Malaysia #49 (RE) Australia
Spotify Top 50 Albums Charts Week of Jan 29-Feb 4; 1989
#35 (+1) Philippines #36 (+1) Vietnam #44 (+2) Australia #45 (+5) Ireland
Spotify Top 50 Albums Charts Week of Jan 29-Feb 4; Red
#48 (+1) Philippines
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Post by tobichartmaster on Feb 9, 2021 19:28:17 GMT -5
tobichartmaster : I think she's actually uniquely positioned to get a very large number of Diamond certifications. In addition to Fearless and Shake It Off, 1989 is surely eligible by now, and Blank Space and Love Story must be very close to being eligible if they aren't already. I think a lot of current artists will get diamond eligible songs due to the longevity streaming provides. I believe songs like Wildest Dreams, I Don't Wanna Live Forever and I Knew You Were Trouble move around 15-20k song units per week, which is like 8-10 million units per decade. So in addition to Shake It Off, Blank Space and Love Story, I think it's inevitable that Wildest Dreams, IDWLF, IKYWT, WANEGBT, YBWM, perhaps even Style and Bad Blood and maybe even a few more will eventually become diamond eligible. But what's really interesting is how many of her albums could become diamond eligible over the next couple decades. I think her first 8 albums could all make it by the time she's in her early 50s based on their current cumulative sales and weekly SPS movements, and the fact that the weekly sales have not been decreasing for her back catalog (in fact, they've been increasing in the last 2 years). Oh yeah for sure her classic songs and albums have a chance to become diamond certified as time moves on. I just wanted to point out the highest heights an artist can reach at least once in their career. Taylor is at probably 55 Million RIAA album units (35 Million from album sales, 10 Million from digital downloads and 10 Million from streams) and if i am correct no artist was more consumed in 2020 than Taylor. Her US SPS will eclipse Whitney, Mariah and Madonna in the future, what puts her at #2 female behind only Barbra.
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Post by nickd on Feb 9, 2021 22:42:07 GMT -5
tobichartmaster : I think she's actually uniquely positioned to get a very large number of Diamond certifications. In addition to Fearless and Shake It Off, 1989 is surely eligible by now, and Blank Space and Love Story must be very close to being eligible if they aren't already. I think a lot of current artists will get diamond eligible songs due to the longevity streaming provides. I believe songs like Wildest Dreams, I Don't Wanna Live Forever and I Knew You Were Trouble move around 15-20k song units per week, which is like 8-10 million units per decade. So in addition to Shake It Off, Blank Space and Love Story, I think it's inevitable that Wildest Dreams, IDWLF, IKYWT, WANEGBT, YBWM, perhaps even Style and Bad Blood and maybe even a few more will eventually become diamond eligible. But what's really interesting is how many of her albums could become diamond eligible over the next couple decades. I think her first 8 albums could all make it by the time she's in her early 50s based on their current cumulative sales and weekly SPS movements, and the fact that the weekly sales have not been decreasing for her back catalog (in fact, they've been increasing in the last 2 years). Oh yeah for sure her classic songs and albums have a chance to become diamond certified as time moves on. I just wanted to point out the highest heights an artist can reach at least once in their career. Taylor is at probably 55 Million RIAA album units (35 Million from album sales, 10 Million from digital downloads and 10 Million from streams) and if i am correct no artist was more consumed in 2020 than Taylor. Her US SPS will eclipse Whitney, Mariah and Madonna in the future, what puts her at #2 female behind only Barbra. I think Mariah and Barbra will be pretty neck to neck in about a decade, but Taylor could easily overtake both by then. She's less than 20m behind Barbra and her first 6 albums do about 1.8m per year (and that's been increasing) while Barbra's catalog probably does less than 200k per year.
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Post by tobichartmaster on Feb 10, 2021 2:14:55 GMT -5
Well Barbra’s 34 studio albums, 9 live albums, 13 Compilations, 10 EP‘s, Christmas Albums... are mostly stuck in between certification thresholds (like below 500k looks the same as 0, 1,9 Million can only be certified Platinum). I estimate her at 90 Million SPS US album units. But yes she can catch Mariah/Madonna for a second spot in total consumption in a few years.
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Post by neverduplicated on Feb 10, 2021 10:04:17 GMT -5
The big question is how long can Taylor sustain the kind of success she is having. Since 2008, she's been consistently moving 4m+ albums nearly every year (with a few exceptions). Last year she moved over 5m SPS in the US. This year she will probably move another 4m+. We don't know when she will release a new album, but if she released a new album next year, she would probably get another year with 4m+ SPS. Her catalog is only getting bigger, and the re-recordings will make it even bigger. If she can sustain this kind of success for the entire decade, she would definitely overtake Barbara. I know that's a big if, but if anyone can do it, it's Taylor.
The other big question is what kind of success Taylor will be having 20+ years from now. This is kind of impossible to predict, but considering how consistent her fanbase has been, I could see her holding up better than other big female stars who have been around for 30+ years.
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Post by toomuchboy on Feb 10, 2021 12:22:44 GMT -5
"Love Story" is probably the song I'm most interested to hear of the re-makes. I mean, she's never going to be a great singer, but she's better now than she was then, so there should be a noticeable difference.
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Post by tobichartmaster on Feb 10, 2021 16:59:00 GMT -5
The big question is how long can Taylor sustain the kind of success she is having. Since 2008, she's been consistently moving 4m+ albums nearly every year (with a few exceptions). Last year she moved over 5m SPS in the US. This year she will probably move another 4m+. We don't know when she will release a new album, but if she released a new album next year, she would probably get another year with 4m+ SPS. Her catalog is only getting bigger, and the re-recordings will make it even bigger. If she can sustain this kind of success for the entire decade, she would definitely overtake Barbara. I know that's a big if, but if anyone can do it, it's Taylor. The other big question is what kind of success Taylor will be having 20+ years from now. This is kind of impossible to predict, but considering how consistent her fanbase has been, I could see her holding up better than other big female stars who have been around for 30+ years. Yes it is possible, just really hard to look so far into the future. In the 21st century, 4 female artist secured consumption between 30-35 Million US album SPS (Adele, Beyonce, Britney, Rihanna). And than there is Taylor with her 55 Million units. Incredible. However, at the end of the decade she should be the highest grossing female live performer in the history of the US live entertainment business. WOW Counting all awards together from the biggest 4 US music award shows VMA‘s, AMA‘s, BBMA‘s, Grammys... she has the biggest total, 76 awards to be exact. Beyonce has the second most with 75. So even if she is unable to reach Barbra because of a hard decline, she had a good run overall.
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Post by nickd on Feb 10, 2021 18:26:02 GMT -5
"Love Story" is probably the song I'm most interested to hear of the re-makes. I mean, she's never going to be a great singer, but she's better now than she was then, so there should be a noticeable difference. Word on the street is that Love Story's re-recording will be released this Friday and that the HAIM Gasoline remix will be released the Friday after?
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Post by nickd on Feb 10, 2021 18:38:18 GMT -5
Fearless and Speak Now just re-entered on the Rolling Stone Top 200 albums building chart...
14 - Evermore - 13,200 1.4k pure - 2.5k song sales - 14.4m streams
24 - Folklore - 10,500 1.5k pure - 0.9k song sales - 10.1m streams
48 - Lover - 6,800 854 pure - 759 song sales - 6.7m streams
68 - 1989 - 5,200 513 pure - 1k song sales - 5.5m streams
135 - Red - 3,700 363 pure - 526 song sales - 3.9m steams
137 - reputation - 3,700 315 pure - 476 song sales - 4.0m streams
173 - Fearless - 3,300 316 pure - 548 song sales - 3.4m streams
199 - Speak Now - 2,900 304 pure - 583 song sales - 3.0m streams
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Post by Taylor. on Feb 10, 2021 19:06:34 GMT -5
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Post by kimberly on Feb 10, 2021 19:23:37 GMT -5
WE WERE BOTH YOUNG WHEN I FIRST SAW YOU
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Feb 10, 2021 19:30:50 GMT -5
Lmfao watch it really be the exile video...
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Post by kimberly on Feb 10, 2021 19:31:55 GMT -5
Lmfao watch it really be the exile video... no it's probably Cruel Summer
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Feb 10, 2021 19:39:54 GMT -5
Lmfao watch it really be the exile video... no it's probably Cruel Summer Lmfao I’d be down for either!
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Feb 10, 2021 20:46:46 GMT -5
So MTV is doing an unplugged for BTS... hope we get one for Taylor soon!
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Post by Choco on Feb 10, 2021 21:53:43 GMT -5
It's just the re-recordings (most likely "Love Story" and the albums will follow soon-ish)
btw "Taylor's version", she's so extra.
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Post by Taylor. on Feb 10, 2021 23:27:49 GMT -5
DeuxMoi insider says she’s dropping Love Story and announcing the release of 26 more re-recordings (greatest hits?). Guess we’ll see shortly how accurate that is.
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Post by kimberly on Feb 10, 2021 23:49:20 GMT -5
DeuxMoi insider says she’s dropping Love Story and announcing the release of 26 more re-recordings (greatest hits?). Guess we’ll see shortly how accurate that is. I've always said it made the most sense for her to curate a selection of songs instead of re-recording whole albums, especially her debut, so I will be very happy if it is a "greatest" collection. I'm excited for the announcement regardless!
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