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Post by kimberly on Dec 18, 2020 5:54:23 GMT -5
POP:247 29 TAYLOR SWIFT willow 2246 8 2238 12.084 +436 Spins +428 Bullet +1.909 Audience HOT AC:121 22 TAYLOR SWIFT willow 1036 4 1032 6.763 +199 Spins +195 Bullet +0.947 Audience finally! a massive update
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Post by deepston on Dec 18, 2020 6:22:09 GMT -5
Wow we haven’t seen an update like that on one of her singles for a while!
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Post by taylor on Dec 18, 2020 7:03:27 GMT -5
The "Me!" discussions make me sad because I think that song is super cute, and I actually love that it is so saccharine and uplifting. I feel like you just have to embrace the cheese if you want to jam to that one. I do agree it's one of her weakest efforts, and with "Cruel Summer" RIGHT THERE it was a very confusing release. However, I can look past all that and appreciate the song for what it is, and I LOVE the colorful video. I'm also flummoxed that I don't see more people like me online who will say they love the song because it still does pretty well in streaming and has over 500 million streams on Spotify, so surely I'm not the only one who likes it, right? thank you thank you thank you. ME! stans unite! I stand by my #10 rank in the Lover RD. The "Me!" discussions make me sad because I think that song is super cute, and I actually love that it is so saccharine and uplifting. I feel like you just have to embrace the cheese if you want to jam to that one. I do agree it's one of her weakest efforts, and with "Cruel Summer" RIGHT THERE it was a very confusing release. However, I can look past all that and appreciate the song for what it is, and I LOVE the colorful video. I'm also flummoxed that I don't see more people like me online who will say they love the song because it still does pretty well in streaming and has over 500 million streams on Spotify, so surely I'm not the only one who likes it, right? Cruel Summer sucks, I'm glad it never saw the light of day. It's so overrated by you guys. Me! is much better despite the cheese factor. "Cruel Summer" is pop perfection thank you VERY much.
OMG this update! Wow! Haven't seen that in awhile and hoping this spells success for "willow"!
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Post by Fears in the Fire on Dec 18, 2020 7:50:59 GMT -5
Me! Is actually a catchy song. Yeah its very childish for her age but its still a bop. I think the reason why its a lead single is because she wanted to show that Lover is a completely different album from Reputation and if she had released Cruel Summer, people would think she didnt make any progression on her music because it has the same feeling or vibe as Getaway Car. She should’ve released Lover as first single. Anyway. Hopefully willow will debut at number one. I dont care if it crashes the following weeks, i just want that number one for her The verses on Me! are amazing. It’s the chorus and the bridge that ruin it for me, and make it hard to relisten to. Omg yeah I’ve always LOVED the verses, good to know I’m not alone Also very nice update hoping this can go further than lover and cardigan PS Cruel Summer is indeed pop perfection
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 8:56:21 GMT -5
I think the reason why Me! was a single is because of its resemblance to Shake It Off, but I think Me! was less tightly executed. I blame it on Joel Little. Even then I have learned to enjoy Me! ironically, it's not even in my bottom 5 of Lover. The worst song on Lover is undeniably Miss Americana & The Heartbreak Prince. I agree 100% with whoever said I Think He Knows should have been the lead. It's my favourite song on the album and sounds like a surefire hit.
Speaking of Me!, Willow is gonna be Taylor's highest peaking song in both the UK and Ireland since Me!.
Excellent update despite the Christmas freeze. I really hope it powers through the top 20 and reaches the top ten at pop radio and top 5 at HAC, and top ten overall. That would bode really well for the album.
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Post by deepston on Dec 18, 2020 9:29:05 GMT -5
The verses on ME! are cute but the chorus is absolutely horrendous. And then that bridge comes along and it's the nail in the coffin. Literally one of her worst songs.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 18, 2020 9:40:45 GMT -5
I like this more than "cardigan." Will it finish with a higher audience than that one's first week? "cardigan" has 12.7m impressions via BDS/Nielsen, I think.
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Post by neverduplicated on Dec 18, 2020 9:54:52 GMT -5
That’s a great update! Many have said this won’t do better than “Cardigan,” but this sounds way catchier and more radio-friendly, so I’d be surprised if it didn’t do at least a little bit better. “Cardigan” excelled at mood and atmosphere but didn’t really have the kind of hook that a pop hit needs. This song has a very solid and memorable hook.
(I adore “Cardigan” btw, just didn’t have much hit potential IMO).
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 18, 2020 10:16:15 GMT -5
^Well, it did decently at AC outlets. But, I agree that this probably has more mainstream appeal.
"willow" ended with 13.281 million+ streams on U.S. Spotify; probably doesn't include the various mixes/versions.
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Post by deepston on Dec 18, 2020 10:16:27 GMT -5
I like this more than "cardigan." Will it finish with a higher audience than that one's first week? "cardigan" has 12.7m impressions via BDS/Nielsen, I think. It's at 20m overall AI so it's pretty safe to say it will (and by a lot).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 10:23:01 GMT -5
I too think this will do much better than Cardigan, but I don't want to jinx things. Hoping for a YNTCD/Rain On Me-esque run.
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Post by Ace on Dec 18, 2020 10:46:11 GMT -5
I unapologetically and unabashedly love ME! and think it's super catchy. Sure, it's cheesy, but where's the harm in that? Also, I first heard it watching the video and also loved the visual, which is the same situation with willow. Love the Dancing Witch remix too.
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Post by joesuda on Dec 18, 2020 12:07:38 GMT -5
Does anybody know if radio is playing the original or the dancing witch remix or are some stations playing one of them and others are playing the other?
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Post by KelownaGuy20 on Dec 18, 2020 13:58:29 GMT -5
Does anybody know if radio is playing the original or the dancing witch remix or are some stations playing one of them and others are playing the other? They were both sent to stations. It was up to the station which one to play. Mine is playing Dancing Witch.
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Post by Taylor. on Dec 18, 2020 14:34:14 GMT -5
Debuts at #3 in the UK, behind Mariah and Wham.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 18, 2020 16:53:06 GMT -5
deepston- Mediabase numbers would be higher, keep in mind, and the first three days will be removed from the equation. Though it's looking good to get above the 12.7m mark that "cardigan" had in its first full week.
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Post by blanksnake17 on Dec 18, 2020 17:46:36 GMT -5
Debuts at #3 in the UK, behind Mariah and Wham. ugh she could’ve gotten her 2nd #1 there
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Dec 18, 2020 18:50:24 GMT -5
Debuts at #3 in the UK, behind Mariah and Wham. ugh she could’ve gotten her 2nd #1 there I’m not too mad about the UK. They go crazy for their Christmas #1 and December is not an ideal time to release a single there unless you’re doing a Christmas/Cover/Charity single.
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Post by musicbuff26 on Dec 18, 2020 19:21:09 GMT -5
Debuts at #3 in the UK, behind Mariah and Wham. ugh she could’ve gotten her 2nd #1 there She’s only had 1 there?
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Dec 18, 2020 19:53:41 GMT -5
ugh she could’ve gotten her 2nd #1 there She’s only had 1 there? Yep, just LWYMMD. Plenty of Top 5s.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Dec 19, 2020 5:52:22 GMT -5
8th day effect.
POP: 46 29 TAYLOR SWIFT willow 2203 518 1685 10.032
-43 Spins -553 Bullet -2.052 Audience
HOT AC: 42 22 TAYLOR SWIFT willow 1056 177 879 6.124
+20 Spins -153 Bullet -0.639 Audience
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Post by Au$tin on Dec 19, 2020 6:14:35 GMT -5
Very good, especially Hot AC.
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Post by livelikedying111 on Dec 19, 2020 12:42:57 GMT -5
I've waited til now to listen to this, heard both versions. I'm underwhelmed, however The Dancing Witch version is the better. I didn't like Cardigan at first, but after the Cabin in Candlelight version, it clicked. Hoping this will grow me, and because it's Taylor, I wish for this to smash. Maybe it's too soon and my love for folklore is still too strong. #Taylegend.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Dec 20, 2020 0:55:43 GMT -5
I prefer this to "Cardigan". The chorus is stuck in my head nearly everyday since release.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Dec 20, 2020 3:31:28 GMT -5
Is this going to challenge the biggest drop from #1? (not including AIWFCIY)
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Post by Au$tin on Dec 20, 2020 3:35:36 GMT -5
Is this going to challenge the biggest drop from #1? (not including AIWFCIY) It could, if only because the crowdedness from Christmas songs and year end stuff clogging up the upper regions of the chart. But this has to actually get #1 first lol. A reminder the biggest drop is 1-34 from TROLLZ.
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Post by fearlessarrow on Dec 20, 2020 5:48:43 GMT -5
POP: 41 28 TAYLOR SWIFT willow 2525 772 1753 11.446
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HOT AC: 34 22 TAYLOR SWIFT willow 1176 281 895 6.420
+120 Spins +16 Bullet +0.296 Audience
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2020 7:06:01 GMT -5
8th day effect. POP:46 29 TAYLOR SWIFT willow 2203 518 1685 10.032 -43 Spins -553 Bullet -2.052 Audience HOT AC:42 22 TAYLOR SWIFT willow 1056 177 879 6.124 +20 Spins -153 Bullet -0.639 Audience I have a question. Did it gain 1.865M at pop and 1.007M at HAC yesterday? Also, today's update is gonna be good too, but the gains are gonna be smaller than those for the past two days, which were bigger than any gains since the first day. Are they slightly smaller today because we're entering the Christmas freeze or were the past two updates just anomalies? Either way this is doing good at the moment. Hopefully she'll perform this at the Grammy's to ensure some longevity.
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Post by Taylor. on Dec 20, 2020 9:29:10 GMT -5
Is this going to challenge the biggest drop from #1? (not including AIWFCIY) Depends how it holds up but it's certainly possible (if it gets #1).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2020 13:44:42 GMT -5
Does anybody know if radio is playing the original or the dancing witch remix or are some stations playing one of them and others are playing the other? They were both sent to stations. It was up to the station which one to play. Mine is playing Dancing Witch. How do you know that? Were the other two remixes sent too?
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