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Post by Groovy on Jan 26, 2021 14:45:40 GMT -5
I can only imagine if Drake puts out a Greatest Hits compilation, it would probably be longer than his regular albums.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 26, 2021 15:04:53 GMT -5
“Greatest hits” doesn’t need to be a top 10 hit or even be defined by chart position at all “Greatest hits” in most context means best of the artistt Still applies. Many of those songs aren't his best or essential songs. |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Jan 26, 2021 15:04:57 GMT -5
I can only imagine if Drake puts out a Greatest Hits compilation, it would probably be longer than his regular albums. I think it still wouldn't be longer than Rihanna's. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 26, 2021 15:11:39 GMT -5
Looking at that tracklist, I don't know that I'd call In Your Eyes, Pray For Me, Often, Die For You, Acquainted, Wicked Games, the Morning and After Hours "hits," yet alone include them in a "greatest hits" album. Only 1 of those songs reached the top 10 and even then, it wasn't exactly a hit in the conventional sense. This feels premature and unnecessary. Bruno Mars and Beyoncè have performed at the Super Bowl twice, they have more hits as lead artists and they still haven't put out a greatest hits album (yet). Abel doesn't have nearly enough hits as a lead artist for this and he's only 4 albums in (his debut album had no hits so he really only has 3 albums he can pull from). He should have waited a couple more albums in before doing this imo. Almost half of the songs in that tracklist are album cuts that don't register as even cult classics, yet alone actual hit records but whatever. I'm excited to see the kind of boost it brings upon release. I'd call In Your Eyes and Pray For Me hits, Often is one of his most streamed songs, also In The Night is clearly missing...and if we count features, Low Life was a really big hit. He has way bigger features that aren't in that tracklist. He also has more cult classic songs that are somehow missing from that tracklist. The album doesn't sense to me as an idea to execute at this point in his career, as a "greatest hits" album or as an essential songs album. Too many things missing to fulfil either of those categories satisfactorily, but that's just me. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 26, 2021 15:14:37 GMT -5
I can only imagine if Drake puts out a Greatest Hits compilation, it would probably be longer than his regular albums. I think it still wouldn't be longer than Rihanna's. It definitely would be. I can list over 60 Drake songs (lead/features) that are legitimate hits/cult classics. I can't think of another artist that's garnered as many hits as he has in the last 10-15 years. |
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Post by Gary on Jan 26, 2021 15:23:12 GMT -5
“Greatest hits” doesn’t need to be a top 10 hit or even be defined by chart position at all “Greatest hits” in most context means best of the artistt Still applies. Many of those songs aren't his best or essential songs. His "best or essential" songs as some of his fans are concerned? They could be handpicked by him or by his label as what he wants to put out as his "greatest" There are lots of greatest hits albums that are done this way. Most conform to the charts to the letter but many do not |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 26, 2021 15:27:03 GMT -5
Still applies. Many of those songs aren't his best or essential songs. His "best or essential" songs as some of his fans are concerned? They could be handpicked by him or by his label as what he wants to put out as his "greatest" There are lots of greatest hits albums that are done this way. Most conform to the charts to the letter but many do not Agreed. That's why in another post, I said the songs he chose aren't a comprehensive list of his greatest or essential hits TO ME. I believe many of his fans would also choose other songs to round up the tracklist outside of his obvious hits but as you said, this could simply be what HE considers his most essential hits so I guess that works as well. |
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Post by nathanalbright on Jan 26, 2021 15:42:29 GMT -5
I can only imagine if Drake puts out a Greatest Hits compilation, it would probably be longer than his regular albums. Can you imagine a Drake playlist that ends up being a box set of all of his charting hits. Even if it only included, say, his top ten hits, it would still be a massive collection that would be charting for ages. |
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Post by dovahduck on Jan 26, 2021 15:58:33 GMT -5
Looking at that tracklist, I don't know that I'd call In Your Eyes, Pray For Me, Often, Die For You, Acquainted, Wicked Games, the Morning and After Hours "hits," yet alone include them in a "greatest hits" album. Only 1 of those songs reached the top 10 and even then, it wasn't exactly a hit in the conventional sense. This feels premature and unnecessary. Bruno Mars and Beyoncè have performed at the Super Bowl twice, they have more hits as lead artists and they still haven't put out a greatest hits album (yet). Abel doesn't have nearly enough hits as a lead artist for this and he's only 4 albums in (his debut album had no hits so he really only has 3 albums he can pull from). He should have waited a couple more albums in before doing this imo. Almost half of the songs in that tracklist are album cuts that don't register as even cult classics, yet alone actual hit records but whatever. I'm excited to see the kind of boost it brings upon release. I understand where you're coming from (and you have made some good points in the replies above) but the term "hit" is so subjective. "Often', "Die for You", "Acquainted, "Wicked Games", and "The Morning" are considered iconic parts of his discography by fans (aka the XO), these songs are always the ones requested by fans to played live, and knowing how close Abel is with his fans, he most likely added those songs on the compilation despite songs like "In the Night", "Low Life", and "Party Monster" having higher peaks. Also all of these songs have a good amount of streams on streaming platforms and are the "hits" for the XO, especially for those who have a good nightlife lol. They're popular bedroom jammers outside of the fanbase too lmao. In the end though, peaks are meaningless compared to legacy, just look at the late 90s and early 2000s reggaetón/bachata hits which didn't even impact the Hot 100 and charted only decently on the Hot Latin Songs chart, "Te Extraño" by Xtreme is a perfect example of this, it only got a lackluster peak on the aforementioned Latin chart and yet, it's heard in basically every single Latino party that you go to. "Wobble" by V.I.C. is another good example of this. |
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Post by GP on Jan 26, 2021 16:03:47 GMT -5
why are streams still so low in the US ugh
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Post by Groovy on Jan 26, 2021 16:18:54 GMT -5
I can only imagine if Drake puts out a Greatest Hits compilation, it would probably be longer than his regular albums. Can you imagine a Drake playlist that ends up being a box set of all of his charting hits. Even if it only included, say, his top ten hits, it would still be a massive collection that would be charting for ages. Longer than a Chris Brown album that's for sure. |
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Jan 26, 2021 16:19:28 GMT -5
Speaking of Bieber, while I've been lukewarm on most singles this era, they have definitely been an improvement over the "Changes" era, so I'm open-minded to this upcoming project.
Interesting how we've had three main pop stars these past few years (Ariana, Taylor, and now Bieber) releasing albums within a much shorter time span than usual. I wonder if this is going to become a trend, and if so, I'm honestly rather ambivalent on it, since I've always been one to prefer quality over quantity.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 26, 2021 16:24:54 GMT -5
^Maybe January blues ... Until last year, it seemed to mostly affect the Billboard 200, but given that albums are now mostly consumed by streaming, it seems they now affect it as well.
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Post by mzumii on Jan 26, 2021 17:00:53 GMT -5
idk if anyone on here knows him but rest in peace 6 dogs... faygo dreams was one of my favorite songs in 2017
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Jan 26, 2021 17:22:00 GMT -5
^ gikem To be fair, I did comment this as response to someone who shared his recent post last page. |
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Post by gikem on Jan 26, 2021 17:23:22 GMT -5
^ gikem To be fair, I did comment this as response to someone who shared his recent post last page. Whoops, my bad. |
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Post by fridayteenage on Jan 26, 2021 18:18:22 GMT -5
^Maybe January blues ... Until last year, it seemed to mostly affect the Billboard 200, but given that albums are now mostly consumed by streaming, it seems they now affect it as well. 1/25/21: 3 700k+ 1/25/20: 20 songs 700k+ 1/25/19: 26 songs 700k+ 1/25/18: 19 songs 700k+ Doubtful. |
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Post by gikem on Jan 26, 2021 20:46:10 GMT -5
Looking at that tracklist, I don't know that I'd call In Your Eyes, Pray For Me, Often, Die For You, Acquainted, Wicked Games, the Morning and After Hours "hits," yet alone include them in a "greatest hits" album. Only 1 of those songs reached the top 10 and even then, it wasn't exactly a hit in the conventional sense. This feels premature and unnecessary. Bruno Mars and Beyoncè have performed at the Super Bowl twice, they have more hits as lead artists and they still haven't put out a greatest hits album (yet). Abel doesn't have nearly enough hits as a lead artist for this and he's only 4 albums in (his debut album had no hits so he really only has 3 albums he can pull from). He should have waited a couple more albums in before doing this imo. Almost half of the songs in that tracklist are album cuts that don't register as even cult classics, yet alone actual hit records but whatever. I'm excited to see the kind of boost it brings upon release. I'd call In Your Eyes and Pray For Me hits, Often is one of his most streamed songs, also In The Night is clearly missing...and if we count features, Low Life was a really big hit. Finally saw the tracklist for this compilation album, and yeah, In The Night was a HUGE omission. It's one of the best songs from BBTM and one of the best hit songs of 2016. I'm not sure why Abel overlooked it. Also False Alarm, which is the best song on Starboy and was a promo single for that album. I know it wasn't huge at the time, but I remember it more than some of the songs that made the cut. |
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jan 26, 2021 23:11:03 GMT -5
I'd call In Your Eyes and Pray For Me hits, Often is one of his most streamed songs, also In The Night is clearly missing...and if we count features, Low Life was a really big hit. Finally saw the tracklist for this compilation album, and yeah, In The Night was a HUGE omission. It's easily the best hit from BBTM and one of the best hit songs of 2016. I'm not sure why Abel overlooked it. Also False Alarm, which is the best song on Starboy and was a promo single for that album. I know it wasn't huge at the time, but I remember it more than some of the songs that made the cut. Die For You which wasn't even a single making the cut over In The Night which peaked at #12 is an interesting choice |
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Post by 85la on Jan 26, 2021 23:22:06 GMT -5
Looking at that tracklist, I don't know that I'd call In Your Eyes, Pray For Me, Often, Die For You, Acquainted, Wicked Games, the Morning and After Hours "hits," yet alone include them in a "greatest hits" album. Only 1 of those songs reached the top 10 and even then, it wasn't exactly a hit in the conventional sense. This feels premature and unnecessary. Bruno Mars and Beyoncè have performed at the Super Bowl twice, they have more hits as lead artists and they still haven't put out a greatest hits album (yet). Abel doesn't have nearly enough hits as a lead artist for this and he's only 4 albums in (his debut album had no hits so he really only has 3 albums he can pull from). He should have waited a couple more albums in before doing this imo. Almost half of the songs in that tracklist are album cuts that don't register as even cult classics, yet alone actual hit records but whatever. I'm excited to see the kind of boost it brings upon release. A lot of your criticisms and others like this in this thread are nothing new with greatest hits albums, it's kind of been standard practice for many decades. The number of studio albums one has released prior and the number of hits or well-known songs or "cult-classics" one has had often has little bearing as to the decision of releasing a GH album, and as to whether these hits vs. lesser known songs make it onto the album. It's often due to marketing purposes or simply for labels to cash in on easy profits. Hillary Duff released a Greatest Hits album in 2005 despite having only released two studio albums. Aretha Franklin released a GH album before she even became very famous or had any substantial hits, consisting of her lesser-known work when she was with Columbia in the early-mid '60s. Or on a GH album like Madonna's The Immaculate Collection, she simply couldn't fit all of her hits and well-known songs up to that point on one album, thus having to leave off some pretty substantial ones like Dress You Up and True Blue. Or sometimes they might purposely leave off some big hits from GH albums because no one would buy the original albums if they didn't. There's many considerations that go into the compiling of a greatest hits album, some business, some creative - often to create a cohesive whole, a mix of the well-known songs, hidden gems, as well as usually some new material. It's rarely just a straight-up collection of their statistically highest-charting hits. You also mention artists like Beyonce and Bruno Mars not having released GH albums despite having racked up more hits and supposedly more illustrious careers so far, however it's been a general trend over the last decade for all artists of all calibers to not release GH albums because of the availability of streaming and digital downloads, so you can't really make that comparison. I'm not saying that I don't agree with some of your criticisms, it just seems like the obvious was being stated. |
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jan 26, 2021 23:41:57 GMT -5
Not sure why The Weeknd isn’t including a vinyl release. I wouldn’t buy a greatest hits album on CD these days but I’d definitely consider buying it on vinyl. and what a great collection of songs to have on vinyl, too! |
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Post by atg on Jan 26, 2021 23:47:19 GMT -5
The problem here is that Drake (probably) waited too long to release CLB. Had he released it in the fall when the iron was hot and LNCL was in the Top 5 of the charts, I would have easily said 600k-750k SPS. But by the time CLB is released, LNCL will have gone recurrent and there likely won't be a hit to take its place. I put the ceiling at 400k for CLB, and it will only get lower the longer he waits. Hotline Bling was released in July 2015 Views was released in April 2016 Even though the song didn’t have to be in the album, it still was and it still is technically the lead single. Look how that album turned out in the end In comparison, LNCL was released in August 2020 Even if CLB released in April-June (but i’m certain it would come out in February around Valentines Day), the album would still do just as well as Views and Scorpion but just less because pure sales are dying by the minute. Drake has a lot of Hype around him especially when it comes to the studio albums. I’ve done heard a lot of people already talk about CLB like it’s dropping soon so its still here |
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Post by atg on Jan 26, 2021 23:48:22 GMT -5
Hopefully this could be I feel it coming of this era with better longevity. If this has better longevity than Blinding Lights I'll sell one of my vital organs Well this is the BL+Circles blended formula of a song so just count on it |
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Post by jthentic on Jan 26, 2021 23:57:03 GMT -5
Machine gun Kelly x BB- My ex's best friend is projected to reach #28 (same as its earlier peak) this week. Also his SNL performance this weekend might get it to top 20 nxt week 🤔
(currently: radio- #52, sales- #28, Spotify- #33, AM- #86 sm- #28)
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Post by dovahduck on Jan 27, 2021 0:05:18 GMT -5
Finally saw the tracklist for this compilation album, and yeah, In The Night was a HUGE omission. It's easily the best hit from BBTM and one of the best hit songs of 2016. I'm not sure why Abel overlooked it. Also False Alarm, which is the best song on Starboy and was a promo single for that album. I know it wasn't huge at the time, but I remember it more than some of the songs that made the cut. Die For You which wasn't even a single making the cut over In The Night which peaked at #12 is an interesting choice It was pushed on rhythmic stateside and pop in Canada 😤😤😤 |
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 27, 2021 9:02:12 GMT -5
why are streams still so low in the US ugh Not enough new music people care about. The streams for holiday music and "drivers license" show people will stream. |
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Post by jebsib on Jan 27, 2021 9:11:18 GMT -5
Also we are in the midst of a long period of Doldrums on the Pop Music Cycle.
The GP won't be engaged until the next phase starts up, usually something explosive and new.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 27, 2021 9:36:58 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2021/01/27
1(=) Chris Brown & Young Thug - Go Crazy 137.59(-0.24)
2(=) 24kGoldn - Mood (feat. iann dior) 126.30(-1.00)
3(=) Ariana Grande - positions 115.46(-0.98)
4(=) Justin Bieber - Holy (feat. Chance the Rapper) 114.80(-0.52)
5(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 93.11(+0.60)
6(=) Dua Lipa - Levitating (feat. DaBaby) 86.25(+0.09)
7(+1) Justin Bieber & benny blanco - Lonely 85.36(+1.09)
8(-1) AJR - Bang! 84.06(-0.38)
9(+1) Ariana Grande - 34+35 (Remix) [feat. Doja Cat & Megan Thee Stallion] 80.53(+2.57)
10(-1) Gabby Barrett - I Hope (feat. Charlie Puth) 78.12(-0.27)
19(=) Megan Thee Stallion - Body 56.76(+1.20)
25(+6) Olivia Rodrigo - drivers license 44.63(+3.42)
33(+1) Saweetie - Back to the Streets (feat. Jhené Aiko) 39.90(+0.82)
35(+1) Luke Bryan - Down to One 39.43(+0.87)
36(+3) Ritt Momney - Put Your Records On 38.71(+1.17)
42(+1) Parmalee & Blanco Brown - Just the Way 35.57(+0.71) -(-) Erica Banks - Buss It 9.61(+0.73) -(-) Jason Derulo - Lifestyle (feat. Adam Levine) 4.23(+0.94)
-(-) Phoebe Bridgers - Kyoto 0.97(+0.89) +
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Post by suzcruz7 on Jan 27, 2021 9:41:19 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2021/01/27
1(=) Chris Brown & Young Thug - Go Crazy 137.59(-0.24)
2(=) 24kGoldn - Mood (feat. iann dior) 126.30(-1.00)
3(=) Ariana Grande - positions 115.46(-0.98)
4(=) Justin Bieber - Holy (feat. Chance the Rapper) 114.80(-0.52)
5(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 93.11(+0.60)
6(=) Dua Lipa - Levitating (feat. DaBaby) 86.25(+0.09)
7(+1) Justin Bieber & benny blanco - Lonely 85.36(+1.09)
8(-1) AJR - Bang! 84.06(-0.38)
9(+1) Ariana Grande - 34+35 (Remix) [feat. Doja Cat & Megan Thee Stallion] 80.53(+2.57)
10(-1) Gabby Barrett - I Hope (feat. Charlie Puth) 78.12(-0.27)
19(=) Megan Thee Stallion - Body 56.76(+1.20)
25(+6) Olivia Rodrigo - drivers license 44.63(+3.42)
33(+1) Saweetie - Back to the Streets (feat. Jhené Aiko) 39.90(+0.82)
35(+1) Luke Bryan - Down to One 39.43(+0.87)
36(+3) Ritt Momney - Put Your Records On 38.71(+1.17)
42(+1) Parmalee & Blanco Brown - Just the Way 35.57(+0.71) -(-) Erica Banks - Buss It 9.61(+0.73) -(-) Jason Derulo - Lifestyle (feat. Adam Levine) 4.23(+0.94)
-(-) Phoebe Bridgers - Kyoto 0.97(+0.89) +
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 27, 2021 9:41:24 GMT -5
🎧 | "drivers license" — Spotify Charts (01/26):
WW: #1 (=) — +9,015,604 (-314,727)
US: #1 (=) — +2,451,705 (-135,156)
UK: #1 (=) — +714,142 (-30,783)
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