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Post by bat1990 on Aug 15, 2024 23:51:40 GMT -5
I guess I'm the only stan for Electric Touch in this thread. Tis fine, I'll dim the lights and belt my heart out to it by myself.
My vault faves include: Mr. Perfectly Fine Electric Touch I Can See You Castles Crumbling Foolish One Timeless Better Man Nothing New Babe I Bet You Think About Me Forever Winter The Very First Night All Too Well (10 Minute Version) Say Don't Go Now That We Don't Talk
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Aug 15, 2024 23:59:07 GMT -5
I LOVE how "Castles Crumbling" sounds influences by or almost like a tribute to "A Sorta Fairytale" by Tori Amos. It was such a fav song of mine for a few years.
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Post by Maximillian on Aug 16, 2024 7:05:50 GMT -5
I bet $10 that Taylor drops a vinyl after all the TV's are out called "The Vault" - a collection of all the Vault tracks - as one standalone album.
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Aug 16, 2024 7:20:18 GMT -5
I love Electric Touch! I think it’s one of the best vault tracks we’ve gotten, along with ATW10MV, slut!, say don’t go, now that we don’t talk, and castles crumbling. I’m clearly in the minority because I’m very partial to the 1989 vault. However, maybe not surprising as my favorite album is midnights.
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Post by balletgirlmom on Aug 17, 2024 4:57:14 GMT -5
I too love Electric Touch and dropping a Vault set is a great idea. I never thought of it! Can you imagine if she did do a Vaut set with all her TV Vault songs AND added yet another song or two that had still been left in the vault. She is so prolific maybe there are more songs...
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Aug 17, 2024 7:00:13 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be wild if we got the "lost Karma album" instead of Rep(TV) like we're all expecting next....😂. I'd die.
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Post by bat1990 on Aug 17, 2024 11:08:50 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be wild if we got the "lost Karma album" instead of Rep(TV) like we're all expecting next....😂. I'd die. I was about to come and post about this theory. Idk if it's ever been discussed at length here on Pulse, but I'm curious what people think about it.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Aug 17, 2024 12:07:09 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be wild if we got the "lost Karma album" instead of Rep(TV) like we're all expecting next....😂. I'd die. I was about to come and post about this theory. Idk if it's ever been discussed at length here on Pulse, but I'm curious what people think about it. Yeah there are millions of theories out there about a million different things involving it and has been for years. I definitely think it exists, as it would've fallen right in line with her, up to that point, typical 2 year album release cycle pre snake-gate. I just have no clue about what it might sound like. I feel like it's most likely uptempos/dancey for some reason or 90s inspired. Maybe because on one of her egg collages the orange vault (Orange with pink being the potential Karma colors) was open and had party confetti flying out of it. I honestly feel like she's even referencing the album "Karma" in the single "Karma" as well when Ice Spice said it was going to "pop up unannounced". Who knows though, but I would love it. What are your thoughts?
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Post by bat1990 on Aug 17, 2024 12:51:24 GMT -5
I was about to come and post about this theory. Idk if it's ever been discussed at length here on Pulse, but I'm curious what people think about it. Yeah there are millions of theories out there about a million different things involving it and has been for years. I definitely think it exists, as it would've fallen right in line with her, up to that point, typical 2 year album release cycle pre snake-gate. I just have no clue about what it might sound like. I feel like it's most likely uptempos/dancey for some reason or 90s inspired. Maybe because on one of her egg collages the orange vault (Orange with pink being the potential Karma colors) was open and had party confetti flying out of it. I honestly feel like she's even referencing the album "Karma" in the single "Karma" as well when Ice Spice said it was going to "pop up unannounced". Who knows though, but I would love it. What are your thoughts? My latest speculations are that songs exist but not enough for a full album and that it's going to be a companion or Side B to Rep(TV). She stated during interviews that she was burnt out and hid from the public eye for a year and didn't work, but I *highly* doubt the person, who wrote and recorded two albums during COVID lockdown, wrote zero songs in 2016. Tbh, she probably had sketches of songs and shut down emotionally when Kim K released the edited Kanye call but I doubt she had nothing musically jotted down.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Aug 17, 2024 13:24:09 GMT -5
She stated during interviews that she was burnt out and hid from the public eye for a year and didn't work, but I *highly* doubt the person, who wrote and recorded two albums during COVID lockdown, wrote zero songs in 2016. Yeah she was referring to the year being 2016 when she likely started writing for Rep, not the time period referencing the original album cycle. When they speak of her writing Karma it would be the period of 2014-16 after she released 1989 and was on tour. Knowing her there's no way she didn't write quite a bit in those 2 years (like she did for 1989 while touring and after releasing Red and for Red while touring and after releasing Speak Now etc).
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Post by dwmusiccollector on Aug 17, 2024 15:33:13 GMT -5
Imagine she has No Songs about Calvin.
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Post by Maximillian on Aug 18, 2024 8:59:44 GMT -5
Taylor has now performed every song from Reputation during her Eras tour as of the last couple shows, which could be another Easter egg for her.
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Post by schnetzka on Aug 18, 2024 10:43:29 GMT -5
It'd be pretty funny if there's all this speculation and then she doesn't release either remaining re-record until next year lol.
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Post by bat1990 on Aug 18, 2024 10:58:15 GMT -5
I swear this woman loves to throw red herrings to the fanbase to play coy with all the wild theories.
Or orange herrings I should say. She actually chose to wear the orange dress for the surprise set where she played "I Did Something Bad" for the first time on this tour. For those unfamiliar, orange is the color fan theorists have associated with the lost Karma album from 2016.
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Post by austin on Aug 18, 2024 13:57:29 GMT -5
I still think debut will be next, in spring 2025.
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Post by Night Senses on Aug 18, 2024 17:34:37 GMT -5
I still think debut will be next, in spring 2025. Me too. I would love to hear that album with updated, mature vocals. I’m sure she’d elevate it substantially. It’s still one of my favorites, even though that may sound “blasphemous,” given her growth from that point on. Call me a sucker for nostalgia.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Aug 18, 2024 17:49:53 GMT -5
TBH it very well could debut in 2025. With Taylor, there's no knowing and she's gotten so cryptic with those damn eggs you need a PHD in deciphering, forensic analysis, Greek philosophy, world history, and mathematics to make sense of them. lol
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Post by Eqbk on Aug 19, 2024 12:51:08 GMT -5
Since we're on the subject, I honestly would prefer Debut TV next. The best part about the re-recordings has been the updated vocals (the worst being the production not being as good as the originals). Rep TV will likely see the least benefit since it was the last of her albums made with Big Machine and Debut TV will likely see the biggest benefit from the upgraded vocals.
Plus, if Christopher Rowe's work on the TV's of Red and 1989 are any indication, the Max Martin tracks on Rep TV will likely be subpar. Whereas the production issues tend to not be as much of an issue with her earlier/country albums.
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Post by RoseColoredGirl on Aug 20, 2024 12:49:35 GMT -5
Haven't checked this thread in a few days so I'm a bit late to the party, but going back to the subject at the top of the page, these would be my Vault faves:
Mr. Perfectly Fine Babe Message in a Bottle I Bet You Think About Me The Very First Night All Too Well (10 Minute Version) When Emma Falls in Love "Slut!" Is It Over Now?
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Aug 20, 2024 16:00:49 GMT -5
And once again got a whole lot of nothing in London for all that egging she has been doing. A measly "Florida" performance and an appearance by a producer everyone's tired of her working with (that I pray she takes a break from for TS12). lol Rep and debut is definitely not coming until late next year. She's just egging people to keep their eyes on her constantly for no reason at this point. lol It is definitely gonna continue with that exaggerated, prolonged 2 tvs 1 year, then an album, 2 tvs 1 year, then an album pattern (stretching this re-release schedule out 5 whole years). lol 🙄
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Post by thezatch on Aug 20, 2024 16:25:42 GMT -5
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Post by Rhythm Nation on Aug 20, 2024 16:28:15 GMT -5
Let’s calm down and give the hardest working person in showbiz a break. She literally released a double album four months ago…
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Post by Grün on Aug 20, 2024 18:10:15 GMT -5
I wonder if she wants to release her rerecord of the debut near the 20th anniversary.
Because of this, she wants to release Rep next year and then the following year the debut. I can't see that many people clamoring for her first album.
She will likely have early demos, diary entries , and exclusive stuff to really sell it.
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Post by austin on Aug 20, 2024 18:40:51 GMT -5
And once again got a whole lot of nothing in London for all that egging she has been doing. A measly "Florida" performance and an appearance by a producer everyone's tired of her working with (that I pray she takes a break from for TS12). lol Rep and debut is definitely not coming until late next year. She's just egging people to keep their eyes on her constantly for no reason at this point. lol It is definitely gonna continue with that exaggerated, prolonged 2 tvs 1 year, then an album, 2 tvs 1 year, then an album pattern (stretching this re-release schedule out 5 whole years). lol 🙄 What eggs exactly? Not going “22” with her hands? Lmao. She just released a double album — why would she take away from that pre-Grammys with a re-release karaoke version of debut or rep?
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Aug 20, 2024 18:44:44 GMT -5
why would she take away from that pre-Grammys with a re-release karaoke version of debut or rep? She hasn't a chance in hell at TTPD winning any big Grammys so she and you can go ahead and let that pipe dream go. Especially after last year. lol And "karaoke" versions? Guess you're not a fan of the TV's? lol Let’s calm down and give the hardest working person in showbiz a break. She literally released a double album four months ago… It's her own fault if some of her fans are disappointed. She and Taylor Nation shouldn't be breadcrumbing fans to keep them eyeing and watching her every move if they're not supposed to be concerned with a payoff. So long as they're not like boycotting or going insane, I see no issue with them maybe being a bit disappointed. That's my opinion on it even if others disagree. 🤷♀️
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Post by austin on Aug 20, 2024 18:49:48 GMT -5
why would she take away from that pre-Grammys with a re-release karaoke version of debut or rep? She hasn't a chance in hell at TTPD winning any big Grammys so she and you can go ahead and let that pipe dream go. Especially after last year. lol I am not saying she will - but she thinks she can. She loves the Grammys. She has kept it at #1 so long for a reason. Also my point is just because fans think everything is an Easter egg, doesn’t mean they are. She is really purposeful with them (like the peace sign for double album). Fans are reaching at straws because they want to re-buy an album they already own. The “omg the lights are green!” commotion online is particularly funny because green is debut, not rep lmao. I am sorry if you are really upset (your posts have a different tone than your usual ones!) but she hasn’t misled anyone. Her Easter eggs are usually very intentional. This is just fans clowning, and it never made a ton of sense. She won’t take focus from TTPD til after the Grammys. We will still get one more single!
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Aug 20, 2024 18:56:11 GMT -5
I am not saying she will - but she thinks she can. She loves the Grammys. She has kept it at #1 so long for a reason. Which is why I said she needs to let that pipe dream go or she is gonna be disappointed come February. lol You act as if Taylor hasn't fostered this very environment. You're talking about a woman who plans things and drops hints years in advance. Who has been known to have her friends drop eggs. Who has hidden eggs in outfits she wears to random events and drops eggs in magazine interviews months before an album or lead drops like she did with Me!. She has directly absolutely cultivated the environment and meticulously trained her fans to search and seek for clues hidden in any and everything. They absolutely aren't always obvious. You can't then blame fans for being disappointed or doing exactly what she trained them to do. Me saying that also isn't saying her fans shouldn't be grateful for what she has given them either before what I'm saying is purposely misconstrued. I'm really upset? Based on what? Because I said she has no chance at a big Grammy with TTPD? That's just common sense. lol My posts aren't any different in tone then they always are. lol I'm not "really upset". I do think the 5 year strategy for the TVs is ridiculous, but that's not me being upset, that's just an opinion.
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Post by austin on Aug 20, 2024 18:59:10 GMT -5
You act as if Taylor hasn't fostered this very environment. You're talking about a woman who plans things and drops hints years in advance. Who has been known to have her friends drop eggs. Who has hidden eggs in outfits she wears to random events and drops eggs in magazine interviews months before an album or lead drops like she did with Me!. She has directly absolutely cultivated the environment and meticulously trained her fans to search and seek for clues hidden in any and everything. They absolutely aren't always obvious. You can't then blame fans for being disappointed or doing exactly what she trained them to do. This is what I am confused about - what eggs has she dropped for rep TV? The green lights? Green is debut. Not making a “22” with her hands during “22?” How does that mean rep TV? I am confused what she did to foster this online hysteria or disappointment. (I meant the “you might be upset”/tone thing genuinely - sorry if it didn’t come off that way)
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Aug 20, 2024 19:04:33 GMT -5
This is what I am confused about - what eggs has she dropped for rep TV? I never claimed she dropped eggs for Rep TV specifically, just that she has been egging throughout her tour and Travis egged for London. Her entire range of color block outfits on tour are eggs in themselves. The "piano malfunctions" recently are eggs. The two fingers up is an egg. We know she eggs in her Instagram posts and there are eggs there. I mean the list goes on and on and on, not for a "Reputation TV" announcement, but for a pending event/announcement in general. If you're a fan, I don't know how you wouldn't be privy to all these things. Btw: I know not everything a fan perceives to be an egg, is an egg, but that's my point. She has made egging in general all so convoluted with how cryptic it has gotten that no one knows what's going on. Lol
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Post by austin on Aug 20, 2024 19:07:02 GMT -5
This is what I am confused about - what eggs has she dropped for rep TV? I never claimed she dropped eggs for Rep TV specifically, just that she has been egging throughout her tour and Travis egged for London. Her entire range of color block outfits on tour are eggs in themselves. The "piano malfunctions" recently are eggs. The two fingers up is an egg. We know she eggs in her Instagram posts and there are eggs there. I mean the list goes on and on and on, not for a "Reputation TV" announcement, but for a pending event/announcement in general. If you're a fan, I don't know how you wouldn't be privy to all these things. To be fair - a lot of these are things fans say are eggs, and then nothing happens with. Not every single thing the woman does is an easter egg. She isn’t the Easter bunny lol. I understand the Instagram posts (in the past) have been eggs. Thanks for answering the question either way. I don’t agree with all of it (and you’re right - I don’t like her TVs much) but I respect your stance - 100%. ETA: technically, the hand change for “22” to be “20” DID lead to the music video and Florence. It just wasn’t for rep, which no one will shut up about.
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