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Post by bat1990 on Aug 2, 2024 9:40:29 GMT -5
The first paragraph of the Us Weekly article rubbed me the wrong way. She hasn't surprise released anything so far, they've all been surprise announcements with a later release date to rack up the pre-orders.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Aug 2, 2024 11:17:12 GMT -5
The first paragraph of the Us Weekly article rubbed me the wrong way. She hasn't surprise released anything so far, they've all been surprise announcements with a later release date to rack up the pre-orders. Huh? Which part of the article are you referencing exactly? "Surprise" announcements is kinda what this whole thing is about. Not surprise releases. Maybe the article misinterpreted but fans following along have always said it was the announcement date they suspected, not the release date. I was merely posting the article because I thought it was funny a bigger publication was picking up on fan egging in the first place, not for accuracy as the article isn't based in facts anyway, but theories. lol
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Post by bat1990 on Aug 2, 2024 11:22:34 GMT -5
The first paragraph of the Us Weekly article rubbed me the wrong way. She hasn't surprise released anything so far, they've all been surprise announcements with a later release date to rack up the pre-orders. Huh? Which part of the article are you referencing exactly? "Surprise" announcements is kinda what this whole thing is about. Not surprise releases. Maybe the article misinterpreted but fans following along have always said it was the announcement date they suspected, not the release date. I was merely posting the article because I thought it was funny a bigger publication was picking up on fan egging. I am 100% saying US Weekly, not fans, misinterpreted things to state that Reputation TV is being surprised released today. Fans who have been paying attention knows she announces things, but the way the opening of the article was written implies surprise release, specifically this quote:
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Aug 2, 2024 11:31:02 GMT -5
Huh? Which part of the article are you referencing exactly? "Surprise" announcements is kinda what this whole thing is about. Not surprise releases. Maybe the article misinterpreted but fans following along have always said it was the announcement date they suspected, not the release date. I was merely posting the article because I thought it was funny a bigger publication was picking up on fan egging. I am 100% saying US Weekly, not fans, misinterpreted things to state that Reputation TV is being surprised released today. Fans who have been paying attention knows she announces things, but the way the opening of the article was written implies surprise release, specifically this quote: Could've easily rectified that by replacing "dropping" with "announcing", but yeah. It's just hilarious that they even picked up on a fan-driven theory at all to me. 😂 ETA:Looks like we didn't get that announcement after all! Lol
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Post by bat1990 on Aug 2, 2024 17:30:20 GMT -5
I'm just gonna try to ignore things and just be elated if she announces anything between now and the final London show on 8/20.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Aug 3, 2024 9:15:18 GMT -5
I'm just gonna try to ignore things and just be elated if she announces anything between now and the final London show on 8/20. Yep. That's me. I ain't expecting s**t anymore. Lol I know they'll be out eventually. I'm not even getting on London for anything. lol
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Post by balletgirlmom on Aug 4, 2024 10:42:57 GMT -5
The Taylor's Version I would love to see is a TV Christmas collection. It would be nice for her to redo all her Christmas music and add more and have another TV album. Look at Mariah, her entire career is AIWFCIY. Taylor does not need to go that route and will not because she has such a catalog and pumps out new stuff. The thing is, she is not queen of Christmas music and could be. I would just like to hear more Taylor Christmas stuff during the holidays.
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Post by The First Lady-Coco on Aug 4, 2024 12:52:17 GMT -5
Two more examples of NOTHING GOOD happens at a Morgan Whalen concert. Swiffer fans are rightfully upset
First he comes out in a Harrison Faulkner jersey yes the fucker who is anti women and gays
And then this
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Post by Edith Puthie on Aug 4, 2024 13:21:23 GMT -5
I've been sitting with this album for awhile now and several standouts have emerged, but Clara Bow is THE standout for me. My heart goes into my throat immediately and stays there. The bridge and final verse make a mess of me.
Heartbreakingly well written, produced and performed.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Aug 4, 2024 19:05:08 GMT -5
I've been sitting with this album for awhile now and several standouts have emerged, but Clara Bow is THE standout for me. My heart goes into my throat immediately and stays there. The bridge and final verse make a mess of me. Heartbreakingly well written, produced and performed. "Clara Bow" is hella underrated and has always been one of my top 5 along with "The Bolter".
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Post by Ling-Ling on Aug 4, 2024 19:37:17 GMT -5
Two more examples of NOTHING GOOD happens at a Morgan Whalen concert. Swiffer fans are rightfully upset First he comes out in a Harrison Faulkner jersey yes the fucker who is anti women and gays In Wallen's defense (ugh, why are you making me do this), it wasn't a Butker jersey. He wears customized home team 7 jerseys with his name on the back on tour stops quite often. It was his high school number apparently.
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Post by Maximillian on Aug 7, 2024 8:33:16 GMT -5
I am *painfully* ready for Reputation TV. For all the crap Reputation gets, it seriously is a phenomenal album, and I am just dying to hear the vault tracks at this point. I also hope there is radio justice for "Don't Blame Me" and "Getaway Car". I mean, they are surely going to start promoting it any day now? Summer is quickly coming to an end. I assume they want this to be something that sells through the holidays.
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Post by imbuemyblue on Aug 7, 2024 9:21:33 GMT -5
I have to say, I've soured on the TV's. 'Fearless' was great for me, 'Red' was the peak, 'Speak Now' was decidedly inferior and then '1989' just completely fails to capture the magic of the original, minus a few tracks. So many of the more recent tracks she redoes just sound like karaoke versions. :/
The vault tracks, on the other hand, I've really enjoyed because there are no preconceived notions about how they are 'supposed' to sound. I think I'm one of the few who loved the 1989 vault without groaning that there was no Blank Space 2.0 lol.
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Post by schnetzka on Aug 7, 2024 9:51:08 GMT -5
One of my main complaints of the 1989 vault tracks (that I liked overall) was that they mostly sounded like Midnights, especially "Suburban Legends".
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Post by daddy on Aug 7, 2024 10:07:36 GMT -5
I haven't cared for most TV vault tracks at all, but LOVE the 1989 ones. I agree they definitely sound like Midnights songs.
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Post by gbaby on Aug 7, 2024 10:11:47 GMT -5
I also hope there is radio justice for "Don't Blame Me" Yes! Feels like a great late fall into winter single.
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Aug 7, 2024 15:07:00 GMT -5
The only reason I bought the TV versions was because I didn't have those albums on vinyl. Well...in the case of Fearless TV, I bought it on CD because all I had was a bootleg mp3 version of that album (as I despised it and Taylor when it dropped) and it was the first TV released, so I just figured a CD would be fine. I probably didn't NEED to have 1989 or Speak Now TVs on vinyl though, honestly. At least I love Red TV's packaging and all the vault tracks, so to me, that one was definitely worth it. Definitely on the fence about buying Rep TV. That album already sounded great when it dropped, with Taylor's voice being much better than previous albums, so unless the vault tracks are AMAZING, it makes sense for me to skip. I don't have her debut album in any shape or form, so I would probably snag the TV of that, just from a collector/completist standpoint.
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Post by Maximillian on Aug 7, 2024 18:05:59 GMT -5
I think people are burning out on the TVs but half the magic for me is getting to relive the moment those albums came out, how they impacted me in my life, seeing how I’ve grown (in relation to TS, we are the same age, so that’s fun).
But come on give us Rep! I want justice for this album 🤣
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 7, 2024 19:07:41 GMT -5
I want Rep TV for sure since I (still) haven’t listened to that album so I will be buying it when it comes out. The vault tracks are all bonuses!
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Post by kamala 2024 truther on Aug 8, 2024 10:48:52 GMT -5
I think people are burning out on the TVs but half the magic for me is getting to relive the moment those albums came out, how they impacted me in my life, seeing how I’ve grown (in relation to TS, we are the same age, so that’s fun). But come on give us Rep! I want justice for this album 🤣 As a lifelong Swiftie, I’m still excited for these last two TVs to come, and hope they come rather soon tbh just so we can have it out of the way. I’m most excited for her debut album to be redone with her present-day vocals, as that’s going to be the most major difference—much like with Fearless, it’ll feel like a new album again solely due to her voice. For rep, I’m more focused on the vault. Also, does anyone else think Taylor will revert back to her two-year gaps after the re-recording projects? folklore/evermore came in 2020, Midnights in 2022, TTPD in 2024. TS12 would be coming in 2026 following that pattern.
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Post by Maximillian on Aug 8, 2024 18:40:05 GMT -5
I think people are burning out on the TVs but half the magic for me is getting to relive the moment those albums came out, how they impacted me in my life, seeing how I’ve grown (in relation to TS, we are the same age, so that’s fun). But come on give us Rep! I want justice for this album 🤣 As a lifelong Swiftie, I’m still excited for these last two TVs to come, and hope they come rather soon tbh just so we can have it out of the way. I’m most excited for her debut album to be redone with her present-day vocals, as that’s going to be the most major difference—much like with Fearless, it’ll feel like a new album again solely due to her voice. For rep, I’m more focused on the vault. Also, does anyone else think Taylor will revert back to her two-year gaps after the re-recording projects? folklore/evermore came in 2020, Midnights in 2022, TTPD in 2024. TS12 would be coming in 2026 following that pattern. I could see a 2 year break - minimum - because she deserves some down time after this tour. However, she is very business oriented and on top of her career right now ... she may just shock us with another album. I really can never tell anymore.
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Post by Dylan :) on Aug 10, 2024 17:57:09 GMT -5
Yesterday was one year since 1989 TV was announced. Is it just me or have the TVs all been a little bit of a flash in the pan? I feel no one speaks about Fearless and it did nothing on the Hot 100. Speak Now came and went in literally less than a month, despite the high hopes for Enchanted. 1989 had Is It Over Now? but I feel that's forgotten already. The only one I feel with a lasting impact so far is Red, and mostly because of ATWTMV. For all the hype for release before they come out, it all kind of dissapears after the release. Speak Now's is especially annoying as the Vault is FLAWLESS. I do feel Reputation has a good chance to match Red, though, since it stands out as the album most unique to her in the discography. If the Vault is strong, it will help a lot too
While I love some of the 1989 Vault, like Slut and Now That We Don't Talk, it's easily the weakest. I think mostly as they sound more like Midnights than 1989, except IION which is simialr to OOTW. I can't imagine a world where Slut would be released over Blank Space, as I believe was put out as an original possibility back in 2014
I'd be interested to see you guys' thoughts. As for the usual rankings we do, here is my ranking of the TV
1. Red / Speak Now 3. Fearless 4. 1989
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Post by Acid Eyes on Aug 10, 2024 23:40:09 GMT -5
My theory has been that Cruel Summer blowing up royally messed up a lot of the plans for proper "TV" eras.
They expected it to go Midnights -> Eras Tour launch -> Speak Now -> 1989 -> TTPD.
But Cruel Summer took attention away from Karma, I Can See You, Is It Over Now (to some degree; even though it hit #1 on Hot 100 and Pop, CS outlived it). Even Fortnight and I Can Do It With A Broken Heart - CS has higher airplay and is starting to outstream them.
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Post by pnobelysk on Aug 11, 2024 1:18:40 GMT -5
Yesterday was one year since 1989 TV was announced. Is it just me or have the TVs all been a little bit of a flash in the pan? I feel no one speaks about Fearless and it did nothing on the Hot 100. Speak Now came and went in literally less than a month, despite the high hopes for Enchanted. 1989 had Is It Over Now? but I feel that's forgotten already. The only one I feel with a lasting impact so far is Red, and mostly because of ATWTMV. For all the hype for release before they come out, it all kind of dissapears after the release. Speak Now's is especially annoying as the Vault is FLAWLESS. I do feel Reputation has a good chance to match Red, though, since it stands out as the album most unique to her in the discography. If the Vault is strong, it will help a lot too While I love some of the 1989 Vault, like Slut and Now That We Don't Talk, it's easily the weakest. I think mostly as they sound more like Midnights than 1989, except IION which is simialr to OOTW. I can't imagine a world where Slut would be released over Blank Space, as I believe was put out as an original possibility back in 2014 I'd be interested to see you guys' thoughts. As for the usual rankings we do, here is my ranking of the TV 1. Red / Speak Now 3. Fearless 4. 1989 The interest for the first three albums is naturally lower since they all lean country and she’s an international superstar now. Once debut happens I’m sure all three willl represent the lowest sales (and those low sales are still incredible). I think having big aspirations for them is misguided. It is over now was a big pop hit and 1989 has sold over 2 million in pure sales alone. Pretty massive
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Post by clsvltn on Aug 11, 2024 21:10:39 GMT -5
It is hard to get excited over the TV after the initial listen or two. It makes sense they aren't cultural moments - besides the ATWTMV for example. They are literally just printing bonus money for her and giving her #1 albums lol
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Post by Choco on Aug 12, 2024 18:13:17 GMT -5
The one TV that had any breathing room did get the biggest push (RED). Fearless was quickly shoved aside for RED, Speak Now wasn't even that old when she moved on to 1989, and now we moved on to TTPD. But by design those were never meant to be full fledged eras. They're just tools to kill the revenue and sales of the old versions and looking at the album chart it has worked.
That she managed to sell 2 million out of 1989 over a decade after it already sold as much as it did is a huge win. I think the fans keep thinking a huge hit is gonna come out of the Vault when other than a couple tracks it's very clear why most of these never made the OG albums. They're B-Sides, cover much of the same ground and have been done before. Even "Is It Over Now?" is just re-exploration of OOTW; radio was finally ready to play it this time, thankfully.
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Post by austin on Aug 12, 2024 18:23:58 GMT -5
There are some gems from the Vault tracks (I don't count ATWTMV, really, but obviously that is god-tier) but overall, they are nothing remarkable when you look at her catalog. Yes, I wonder to this day why "Mr. Perfectly Fine" was left off of Fearless (and why it wasn't a Country single in 2009), but overall, I have no excitement left for the Vault tracks. I probably listened to the Vault tracks from 1989TV besides "Is It Over Now?" one time each. They were so boring.
It's also OK to say her bargain-bin karaoke re-recordings of the songs we grew up on and loved are not as good. Yes, she hits some home runs ('Girl at Home', 'Fifteen') compared to the OG versions, but overall they are huge missteps and Scooter can keep my coin.
I will never understand the begging for Rep. Let her live and ENJOY THE 31 TRACK RECORD WE JUST GOT LIKE 4 MONTHS AGO!
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Post by balletgirlmom on Aug 15, 2024 12:41:53 GMT -5
Yes, I agree. TTPD is still doing so well, and I Could Do it with a Broken Heart is building in a nice natural way. Just keep enjoying this run then in 2025 drop another TV.
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Post by irice22 on Aug 15, 2024 15:49:30 GMT -5
The vault tracks are great! "Say Don't Go," "Is It Over Now?," "Timeless," "I Can See You," "Very First Night," and "Nothing New" are all one I am shocked didn't make the first album.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Aug 15, 2024 23:50:06 GMT -5
I think the absolute gems of the new vault tracks we've gotten so far are "Nothing New" (could have been on Evermore), "All Too Well (10 Minute Version)", "Castles Crumbling" (should've replaced "Superman" on the original extended version), "Say Don't Go", "Now That We Don't Talk" (would have been just as good as the 1989 singles had it been 30-60 seconds longer), and "Message In A Bottle".
Most of Speak Now vault and nothing on Fearless vault grabbed me.
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