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Post by 85la on Mar 2, 2021 15:24:48 GMT -5
Afterglow was only big on radio - and when I say only radio I mean it lost it's presence on streaming three weeks after it debuted so it really only did have radio - and it's been bombing in numbers the past few weeks. God help us all if Ed Sheeran manages to score another Shape of You-sized hit in his next era. Why do you say that, and... why is this necessary? I mean, this is coming right after one of your many posts excessively lauding Drake's accomplishments, and you always complain whenever someone disparages him, so, this just kind of looks bad.
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Post by Gary on Mar 2, 2021 15:49:01 GMT -5
On the subject of Ed Sheeran
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127 Two Princes, Spin Doctors 126 I Hope You Dance, Lee Ann Womack With Sons Of The Desert 116 Missing, Everything But The Girl 106 Uptown Funk!, Mark Ronson Featuring Bruno Mars 105 The Way You Love Me, Faith Hill 103 Perfect, Ed Sheeran 102 Yeah!, Usher Featuring Lil Jon & Ludacris
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Post by Henry SuΓ‘rez on Mar 2, 2021 16:05:08 GMT -5
What happened to Body? It's been losing badly these past few weeks. Bad call-outs on every format ^ I guess that's why it crashed hard on Rhythmic, falling from #3 to #12 last week tho it already hit #1.
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Post by 85la on Mar 2, 2021 17:19:18 GMT -5
But it's funny, Body seemed to maintain relatively high streaming even a while after the album release. It seemed to stick with people and was all the rage for at least a while.
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Post by s9983 on Mar 2, 2021 18:04:05 GMT -5
Blinding Lights as βthe biggest song of all timeβ sounds awkward π¬ Facts. The only reason it's this high on the charts still is mainly bc of radio refusing to let it go and it's status on the greatest hits of the century is very much represenative of that and not as much the sales and streams (sales consumption) if we're being honest. With that being said, i still do think it's one of the best songs released within the century and among his best work.
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Post by οΌ³ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½π€ο½ο½ on Mar 2, 2021 18:29:00 GMT -5
^ #5 in sales, #7 streaming and #6 radio. Itβs not a radio driven song! It has 1 billion on-demand streams in the US, it was the 2nd best selling digital song last year (after Dynamiteπ) and itβs the 3rd best selling this year (so far).
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Post by π‘πππππ€ on Mar 2, 2021 18:35:31 GMT -5
the 2nd best selling digital song last year (after Dynamiteπ)
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Post by Limited Edition on Mar 2, 2021 18:44:13 GMT -5
I mean of course radio has been a huge reason for Blinding Lights success in the US. It's the biggest radio hit of all time. But let's not pretend like it wouldn't be top 10 or even top 5 right now if radio was excluded from the formula
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Post by kimberly on Mar 2, 2021 18:48:37 GMT -5
But it's funny, Body seemed to maintain relatively high streaming even a while after the album release. It seemed to stick with people and was all the rage for at least a while. would have hit No. 8 on the Hot 100 without Christmas massacre, lol. it did well. another platinum hit for Meg.
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Post by π‘πππππ€ on Mar 2, 2021 19:14:53 GMT -5
But it's funny, Body seemed to maintain relatively high streaming even a while after the album release. It seemed to stick with people and was all the rage for at least a while. would have hit No. 8 on the Hot 100 without Christmas massacre, lol. it did well. another platinum hit for Meg. I am still BITTER about that URFGH
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Post by gikem on Mar 2, 2021 22:09:42 GMT -5
Didn't realize until now that No More Parties is now credited as Coi Leray ft. Lil Durk.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Mar 2, 2021 22:41:29 GMT -5
Then again, if radio was excluded from the formula, we might be talking about Blinding Lights as the biggest one week #1 or even a #2 peaking song of all-time. BL was almost always overshadowed by the marathon of #1 debuts on the weekly sales and streaming charts.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Mar 3, 2021 5:57:33 GMT -5
God help us all if Ed Sheeran manages to score another Shape of You-sized hit in his next era.Β Why do you say that, and... why is this necessary? I mean, this is coming right after one of your many posts excessively lauding Drake's accomplishments, and you always complain whenever someone disparages him, so, this just kind of looks bad. I said what I said. And stop bringing up Drake whenever I post something. It's annoying. I didn't disparage Ed or criticize his music or it's quality so I would argue that you quoting me was really what was unnecessary.
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Post by divasummer on Mar 3, 2021 7:56:37 GMT -5
But it's funny, Body seemed to maintain relatively high streaming even a while after the album release. It seemed to stick with people and was all the rage for at least a while. "Body" sounded like a quick burning hit that people either loved or was annoyed with. It's very in your face and repeated the same line over and over again. I can see why this was dropped after a few months but did well for a minute.
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Post by divasummer on Mar 3, 2021 14:45:47 GMT -5
Is Drake even on the Hot 100 this week????? LoL Why is his name brought up every second during these threads?
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Post by 85la on Mar 3, 2021 14:46:48 GMT -5
Why do you say that, and... why is this necessary? I mean, this is coming right after one of your many posts excessively lauding Drake's accomplishments, and you always complain whenever someone disparages him, so, this just kind of looks bad. I said what I said. And stop bringing up Drake whenever I post something. It's annoying. I didn't disparage Ed or criticize his music or it's quality so I would argue that you quoting me was really what was unnecessary. For the record, I am personally unaware of me bringing up Drake in response to your non-Drake posts many times (I believe this might be the only time in fact), however the previous post that shows up right before this in the thread was ironically also by you praising Drake, so just saying how that doesn't look very good. Also not sure how saying "God help us all if Ed were to have another big hit" isn't disparaging or criticizing him, but yes go ahead, continue saying what you have to say.
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Post by jenglisbe on Mar 3, 2021 14:49:38 GMT -5
On the subject of Ed Sheeran Longest recurrent chart runs 127 Two Princes, Spin Doctors 126 I Hope You Dance, Lee Ann Womack With Sons Of The Desert 116 Missing, Everything But The Girl 106 Uptown Funk!, Mark Ronson Featuring Bruno Mars 105 The Way You Love Me, Faith Hill 103 Perfect, Ed Sheeran102 Yeah!, Usher Featuring Lil Jon & Ludacris That is a phenomneal stat for "Two Princes." Some of the other songs are surprising, too, but make sense in terms of having support from multiple formats. "Two Princes" wasn't an overly huge Top 40 hit (#2 for a couple of weeks, so solid but again not overly huge) but clearly hung around awhile.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Mar 3, 2021 15:12:24 GMT -5
I said what I said. And stop bringing up Drake whenever I post something. It's annoying. I didn't disparage Ed or criticize his music or it's quality so I would argue that you quoting me was really what was unnecessary. For the record, I am personally unaware of me bringing up Drake in response to your non-Drake posts many times (I believe this might be the only time in fact), however the previous post that shows up right before this in the thread was ironically also by you praising Drake, so just saying how that doesn't look very good. Also not sure how saying "God help us all if Ed were to have another big hit" isn't disparaging or criticizing him, but yes go ahead, continue saying what you have to say. You could have said what you wanted to say without bringing up Drake to make a point because one has nothing to do with the other. I could just have easily said "God help us if Lil Nas X scores another Old Town Road-sized hit." It's not a comment that needs to be psycho-analyzed. It's just a simple thought that I shared. A better thing you could have said when you quoted me is "Why did you say that? Do you hate Ed Sheeran?" to which I would have responded "No, I just don't want any more huge hits that spend a long time at #1."
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Post by nathanalbright on Mar 3, 2021 15:16:32 GMT -5
On the subject of Ed Sheeran Longest recurrent chart runs 127 Two Princes, Spin Doctors 126 I Hope You Dance, Lee Ann Womack With Sons Of The Desert 116 Missing, Everything But The Girl 106 Uptown Funk!, Mark Ronson Featuring Bruno Mars 105 The Way You Love Me, Faith Hill 103 Perfect, Ed Sheeran102 Yeah!, Usher Featuring Lil Jon & Ludacris That is a phenomneal stat for "Two Princes." Some of the other songs are surprising, too, but make sense in terms of having support from multiple formats. "Two Princes" wasn't an overly huge Top 40 hit (#2 for a couple of weeks, so solid but again not overly huge) but clearly hung around awhile. Those adult alternative hits of the 90's seemed to just hold onto the charts forever.
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Post by atg on Mar 3, 2021 16:41:13 GMT -5
Is Drake even on the Hot 100 this week????? LoL Why is his name brought up every second during these threads? Youβre Mines Still?
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Post by Groovy on Mar 3, 2021 17:29:59 GMT -5
Speaking of Drake, he can drop CLB anytime now, LNCL might go recurrent soon without it.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 3, 2021 17:36:14 GMT -5
I gather Taylor Swift has the most top 20s as a lead act; where does Drake fall on that list?
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Post by thegreatdivine on Mar 3, 2021 19:49:57 GMT -5
Speaking of Drake, he can drop CLB anytime now, LNCL might go recurrent soon without it. I doubt he cares if it does. He posted the song on his Instagram the day it dropped and never referenced/acknowledged it ever again. I'd imagine that it won't be on CLB. He called it a lead single but knowing him, he'll either scrap it off the album or keep it on the album as a bonus track. Imagine he hasn't released any singles off CLB yet. The rollout for the album is yet to begin.
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Post by gikem on Mar 3, 2021 19:53:41 GMT -5
Speaking of Drake, he can drop CLB anytime now, LNCL might go recurrent soon without it. I doubt he cares if it does. He posted the song on his Instagram the day it dropped and never referenced/acknowledged it ever again. I'd imagine that it won't be on CLB. He called it a lead single but knowing him, he'll either scrap it off the album or keep it on the album as a bonus track. Imagine he hasn't released any singles off CLB yet. The rollout for the album is yet to begin. LNCL feels like Hotline Bling 2.0 to me - a song framed as the lead single to an album that has been delayed indefinitely and probably will end up as a bonus track at best.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Mar 3, 2021 19:55:08 GMT -5
I gather Taylor Swift has the most top 20s as a lead act; where does Drake fall on that list? He has 45 top 20 hits as a lead artist.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Mar 3, 2021 20:01:46 GMT -5
I doubt he cares if it does. He posted the song on his Instagram the day it dropped and never referenced/acknowledged it ever again. I'd imagine that it won't be on CLB. He called it a lead single but knowing him, he'll either scrap it off the album or keep it on the album as a bonus track. Imagine he hasn't released any singles off CLB yet. The rollout for the album is yet to begin. LNCL feels like Hotline Bling 2.0 to me - a song framed as the lead single to an album that has been delayed indefinitely and probably will end up as a bonus track at best. Yeah. If it stays on the album, it'll probably be relegated to being a bonus track. We'll just have to see what ends up being on the album. I really wish major mainstream acts would start dropping music. We're 3 months into the year already and no one significant has dropped anything. I wonder what they're all waiting for.
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Post by kimberly on Mar 3, 2021 20:01:54 GMT -5
Speaking of Drake, he can drop CLB anytime now, LNCL might go recurrent soon without it. I doubt he cares if it does. He posted the song on his Instagram the day it dropped and never referenced/acknowledged it ever again. I'd imagine that it won't be on CLB. He called it a lead single but knowing him, he'll either scrap it off the album or keep it on the album as a bonus track. Imagine he hasn't released any singles off CLB yet. The rollout for the album is yet to begin. I mean, when he announced LNCL he said "from my upcoming album Certified Lover Boy" so I doubt he'll completely scrap it. However, I agree that the song is old news at this point (and was a non-event compared to his past lead singles/overshadowed by "WAP") so it feels like he's yet to release a lead single. The anticipation is there. I'm excited to see how this album cycle fares for him. LNCL feels like Hotline Bling 2.0 to me - a song framed as the lead single to an album that has been delayed indefinitely and probably will end up as a bonus track at best. Yeah. If it stays on the album, it'll probably be relegated to being a bonus track. We'll just have to see what ends up being on the album. I really wish major mainstream acts would start dropping music. We're 3 months into the year already and no one significant has dropped anything. I wonder what they're all waiting for. I bet they're waiting for the future to be brighter and more predictable again so they can announce tour dates/promote their music the traditional way. Releasing music seems pointless for someone who can gross north of $100 million with a tour.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Mar 3, 2021 20:32:00 GMT -5
kimberly I think part of that had to do with the pandemic and the fact that he had released a whole bunch of music throughout 2020 before LNCL. God's Plan was the first thing he dropped in 2018. I don't expect most people to drop albums this early in the year but singles wouldn't hurt. It'll be summer in about 3/4 months. This year is going by fast. Looking at things from a different perspective, though, maybe I shouldn't be so surprised more heavyweights aren't dropping music yet. This year has just felt... off. Everything has felt off since the pandemic hit tbh. Even the songs I've enjoyed the most since last year haven't stayed with me for as long as songs usually do. I'm over stuff very quickly and I'm rarely excited by anything that drops these days. Maybe the artists are also sensing these things.
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Post by 85la on Mar 3, 2021 21:56:06 GMT -5
That is a phenomneal stat for "Two Princes." Some of the other songs are surprising, too, but make sense in terms of having support from multiple formats. "Two Princes" wasn't an overly huge Top 40 hit (#2 for a couple of weeks, so solid but again not overly huge) but clearly hung around awhile. Those adult alternative hits of the 90's seemed to just hold onto the charts forever. They sure do, especially If we are to expand adult alternative to alternative rock. Other songs that must be up there include Santeria and Smells Like Teen Spirit, which surprisingly didn't have very high peaks at first, but which get played all the time on radio now.
As for the light release schedule so far this year/the possibility of Drake releasing soon, I think the pandemic absolutely explains it, on top of Jan/Feb already being a slow release period every year. And it seems that an end, or at least a great reduction of the pandemic is in sight, to the point where some type of touring and in person promo activities could resume, but probably not at least for another couple months. So maybe artists are thinking, "if I waited this long, what's another couple months."
Drake is another matter though because his career seems to be less dependent on touring and in-person promo, and it seems he would pull big numbers whenever he releases; I have a sense something could be coming from him any week now.
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Post by Choco on Mar 4, 2021 0:41:44 GMT -5
Yeah if I was a major act sitting on a new album I'd hold until the second half of the year. Promo will be far easier. Unless you're Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande or Bad Bunny in which case you drop now and have another album ready by July lol.
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