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Post by kimberly on Mar 9, 2021 17:18:25 GMT -5
4( +1) Olivia Rodrigo - drivers license 1,079,006 ( +32,692) 5( +2) Kali Uchis - telepatía 1,001,028 ( +56,133) not that this means anything but holy shit "telepatía" is #2 without this week's releases! could finish the week at a new Spotify daily peak if she holds up.
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Post by gikem on Mar 9, 2021 17:19:27 GMT -5
Hope Lil Nas X brings back the pop trend of putting parenthesis into pop songs It's already begun happening with recent hits like "Savage Love (Laxed - Siren Beat)" and "Throat Baby (Go Baby)."
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Post by degen on Mar 9, 2021 18:02:06 GMT -5
People just use Spotify as a main indicator because their numbers are the most easily accessible. That’s all. Yeah, he’s destabilizing there (which doesn’t mean much because he’s still well ahead of everyone), but that’s never been his stronghold. f**k u for not publishing ur numbers AM I agree with this. And we all know the only reason why Apple Music doesn’t release its streaming numbers is because they don’t want the public to see that it gets less streams than Spotify. Which is a shame because it would make everything more transparent. As for Drake, I feel like these 3 new songs are headed in the direction off “Toosie Slide.” A number one debut (for at least “What’s next”), but then they all fall off gradually. One of them could certainly become a “Laugh Now, Cry Later” which was in the top 10 for a long while.
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Post by 85la on Mar 9, 2021 20:22:57 GMT -5
I remember using spotify and deezer until 2016, when apple music had just starting to blow up, and i’ve been with it ever sense. I do still got spotify but use it way less because apple has the ‘all inclusive’. You could add your own music at ease via itunes and also watch music videos. And not to mention the exclusives, the biggest one of course being Drake’s Views which probably pulled in 80% of the hip hop audience on apple music right now. I noticed that exclusives are completely gone, and since like 2018 artists just release their music on all platforms from day one. I guess exclusives aren’t as effective anymore, but one can just remember the apple music vs tidal war of exclusives. Wait you can watch music videos on Apple Music, as part of the monthly subscription plan?
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Post by tommy1860 on Mar 9, 2021 20:41:34 GMT -5
I remember using spotify and deezer until 2016, when apple music had just starting to blow up, and i’ve been with it ever sense. I do still got spotify but use it way less because apple has the ‘all inclusive’. You could add your own music at ease via itunes and also watch music videos. And not to mention the exclusives, the biggest one of course being Drake’s Views which probably pulled in 80% of the hip hop audience on apple music right now. I noticed that exclusives are completely gone, and since like 2018 artists just release their music on all platforms from day one. I guess exclusives aren’t as effective anymore, but one can just remember the apple music vs tidal war of exclusives. Wait you can watch music videos on Apple Music, as part of the monthly subscription plan? Yeah, you can. There have even been some videos that were Apple exclusives at first. I remember the Hotline Blind video being only on Apple Music it’s first week.
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Post by jthentic on Mar 9, 2021 20:57:02 GMT -5
A screamo track into top 20 🧘♂️🎋
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Post by rimetm on Mar 9, 2021 21:56:04 GMT -5
Hope Lil Nas X brings back the pop trend of putting parenthesis into pop songs It's already begun happening with recent hits like "Savage Love (Laxed - Siren Beat)" and "Throat Baby (Go Baby)." Neither is a true example though. “Laxed - Siren Beat” was the name the instrumental was shopped around as when they were seeking an act to take it, and when Jason Derulo stole it for Savage Love, it originally was only under that title. Adding the subtitle was a legal stipulation. As to Throat Baby, “Go Baby” is the name of its radio edit. That’d be like saying “F—k You (Forget You)” is an example of the subtitle trend.
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Post by gikem on Mar 9, 2021 22:03:18 GMT -5
It's already begun happening with recent hits like "Savage Love (Laxed - Siren Beat)" and "Throat Baby (Go Baby)." Neither is a true example though. “Laxed - Siren Beat” was the name the instrumental was shopped around as when they were seeking an act to take it, and when Jason Derulo stole it for Savage Love, it originally was only under that title. Adding the subtitle was a legal stipulation. As to Throat Baby, “Go Baby” is the name of its radio edit. That’d be like saying “F—k You (Forget You)” is an example of the subtitle trend. My bad on those two. In my defense, I had forgotten that there's also that Elle King song that debuted this week that uses your definition of a parenthetical.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Mar 9, 2021 22:59:48 GMT -5
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Post by atg on Mar 10, 2021 2:00:07 GMT -5
I’m surprised at Lil Durk’s AM domination. 54 current songs on the charts on Kworb, but not even comparable to Drake’s 72. Lil Baby is at 50 so that’s not surprising as well. Besides those 3, there really isn’t anyone that comes close to charting that many songs. Makes me think about the future of these artists to be a very long one.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Mar 10, 2021 3:22:40 GMT -5
I’m surprised at Lil Durk’s AM domination. 54 current songs on the charts on Kworb, but not even comparable to Drake’s 72. Lil Baby is at 50 so that’s not surprising as well. Besides those 3, there really isn’t anyone that comes close to charting that many songs. Makes me think about the future of these artists to be a very long one. Songs released since 2020 (features included): Lil Durk - 81 Lil Baby - 53 Drake - 30
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Mar 10, 2021 6:12:39 GMT -5
The battle is on between Bruno and Cardi for #1 on the 3/27 chart. That would be the 26th different #1 in Blinding Lights charting run, provided What's Next is #1 on the 3/20 chart. (It would be awesome if Bruno and Cardi surprised us and performed Finesse at the Grammys.)
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Post by Enigma. on Mar 10, 2021 7:44:31 GMT -5
Streets is still #10 on Spotify. Seems that the video didn't help much there.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Mar 10, 2021 7:53:26 GMT -5
4th straight day of the tracks off Scary Hours 2 and Leave the Door Open losing streams on Spotify US. Hold On also lost streams but it's down to 707K so yeah. It'll be lucky to debut in the Hot 100 top 40 at this rate.
I wonder if/when, they'll finally gain some streams.
Audio streaming is so down bad currently that if Drake hadn't released new music on Friday, the #1 song on Spotify US right now would be Leave the Door Open with 1,095,834 streams and it's been out for less than a week. Just terrible.
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Post by Enigma. on Mar 10, 2021 8:04:18 GMT -5
But, on the other hand, the streams are pretty well spread out. #200 isn't having worse numbers than it usually does these days.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Mar 10, 2021 8:10:06 GMT -5
Enigma. there are really no positives to how low audio streaming in the US is right now. Half the songs in the top 10 of Spotify US have less than 1M streams and the #1 song has less than 1.6M streams (and it's numbers are only that high because it's a new song). The new songs are still yet to gain any streams from the previous day and the older, more stable songs are barely gaining any streams on the days they manage to gain anything at all. That's bad any way you look at it.
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Post by Enigma. on Mar 10, 2021 8:14:09 GMT -5
If you say so, I don't mind, hits that everyone is interested in do well still, like Olivia Rodrigo demonstrated.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Mar 10, 2021 8:20:34 GMT -5
If you say so, I don't mind, hits that everyone is interested in do well still, like Olivia Rodrigo demonstrated. Are you talking about when drivers license peaked with over 6M streams on Spotify US less than a week after it's release only to spend the next 4 weeks losing streams drastically till it stabilized at 1.3-1.5M daily streams? drivers license was released less than 9 weeks ago and it's already down to 1M daily streams. Up was released less than 5 weeks ago and I doubt it's ever surpassed 1.2M streams. It's down to 900K daily streams right now. The "biggest" songs in the US right now pulling very low streams. I don't know how you don't see that.
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Post by Enigma. on Mar 10, 2021 8:29:14 GMT -5
But Telepatía for instance has been rising for a few weeks now. I see the evolution of streaming is going to more and more to the way digital sales evolved - songs start high and gradually decline from there unless there is an extra promo boost or sth from somewhere (TikTok). I don't see why artists should stop releasing albums because of that. Also, albums are always a bit frontloaded in streaming and whatever takes off will do so.
The only thing that is missing is that people don't travel to work and back home as much as they used to which I think is currently showing in the numbers. At home, people might rather play games and watch movies and tv series than listen to music.
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Post by kingvavis on Mar 10, 2021 8:30:25 GMT -5
Is streaming this bad cause streaming is becoming more spread out? Maybe this is the new norm going forward where streaming will continue to grow, but it will be less concentrated around big songs.
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Post by Enigma. on Mar 10, 2021 8:38:17 GMT -5
I obviously follow Lady Gaga closely, and her older songs have had a great boost recently (The Fame is #135 on album chart without any effort from Gaga or her label), so I think that is a factor too.
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Post by strongerq on Mar 10, 2021 8:57:04 GMT -5
Self explanatory image.
Another update on this. Audio streams of whole discographies (week 9). *based on Rolling Stone Artist chart
Only artists that haven't released albums after 2019. 116 artists meet the criteria. That have charted in the first 9 weeks of 2020 and 2021 respectively.
Nielsen will report that streaming has grown in 2021 by 15%+ is all i am going to say.
Artist | 2021 | 2020 | % | Arctic Monkeys | 139.6M | 52M | 168.5% | Daft Punk | 85.7M | 41.6M | 106.0% | Fleetwood Mac | 216.7M | 111.6M | 94.2% | Bee Gees | 75.7M | 39.2M | 93.1% | One Direction | 209.2M | 114.1M | 83.3% | Britney Spears | 101.8M | 59M | 72.5% | Bob Seger | 69.3M | 42.7M | 62.3% | Creedence Clearwater Revival | 103.6M | 64.8M | 59.9% | Nickelback | 71.9M | 45.2M | 59.1% | Van Halen | 80.6M | 51.5M | 56.5% | Toby Keith | 67.5M | 43.3M | 55.9% | Nirvana | 130.3M | 84.1M | 54.9% | Paramore | 95.7M | 62M | 54.4% | Hank Williams Jr. | 56.7M | 37M | 53.2% | Alan Jackson | 94.1M | 61.6M | 52.8% | Mötley Crüe | 61.7M | 40.7M | 51.6% | Dr. Dre | 79.5M | 52.5M | 51.4% | Nelly | 78.4M | 51.8M | 51.4% | Eagles | 152.2M | 100.6M | 51.3% | Phil Collins | 63.3M | 42M | 50.7% | Alice In Chains | 61.4M | 40.9M | 50.1% | Earth Wind & Fire | 58.5M | 39M | 50.0% | Mary J. Blige | 62.2M | 41.9M | 48.4% | 50 Cent | 115M | 77.9M | 47.6% | 3 Doors Down | 55M | 37.3M | 47.5% | Lynyrd Skynyrd | 88.8M | 60.4M | 47.0% | Rihanna | 281.2M | 191.6M | 46.8% | Guns N' Roses | 95M | 66.4M | 43.1% | Kid Rock | 57.3M | 40.2M | 42.5% | Michael Jackson | 158.2M | 111.5M | 41.9% | Journey | 97.6M | 68.9M | 41.7% | OutKast | 84.1M | 59.8M | 40.6% | Def Leppard | 60.4M | 43M | 40.5% | Led Zeppelin | 137.9M | 98.6M | 39.9% | Fall Out Boy | 131.9M | 94.4M | 39.7% | Whitney Houston | 67.5M | 48.6M | 38.9% | Usher | 143.6M | 103.5M | 38.7% | Enya | 77.1M | 55.7M | 38.4% | Ice Cube | 53.4M | 38.6M | 38.3% | Stevie Wonder | 74.4M | 53.8M | 38.3% | Bob Marley & The Wailers | 78.1M | 56.6M | 38.0% | Bruno Mars | 207.1M | 150.2M | 37.9% | A Day To Remember | 57.4M | 41.7M | 37.6% | Flo Rida | 69M | 50.2M | 37.5% | The Rolling Stones | 127.7M | 93M | 37.3% | Billy Joel | 122.6M | 89.4M | 37.1% | Justin Timberlake | 103.5M | 76.1M | 36.0% | R. Kelly | 55.3M | 40.7M | 35.9% | Linkin Park | 157.7M | 116.3M | 35.6% | Notorious B.I.G. | 118.9M | 87.7M | 35.6% | Banda Sinaloense MS de Sergio Lizárraga | 71.7M | 52.9M | 35.5% | Lorde | 86M | 63.6M | 35.2% | Three Days Grace | 99.9M | 74M | 35.0% | 2Pac | 163.3M | 121.7M | 34.2% | U2 | 63.8M | 47.6M | 34.0% | Mariah Carey | 96.7M | 72.3M | 33.7% | Johnny Cash | 97M | 72.6M | 33.6% | The Beach Boys | 65.9M | 49.5M | 33.1% | Aerosmith | 82.9M | 62.7M | 32.2% | Simon & Garfunkel | 52.8M | 40M | 32.0% | Sublime | 78.4M | 59.8M | 31.1% | David Bowie | 62.4M | 47.7M | 30.8% | Michael Bublé | 79.2M | 60.8M | 30.3% | Metallica | 143.8M | 110.4M | 30.3% | Foster the People | 57.3M | 44M | 30.2% | Train | 62.9M | 48.6M | 29.4% | System Of A Down | 73.8M | 57.1M | 29.2% | Beastie Boys | 50.1M | 38.9M | 28.8% | Sleepy John | 68.5M | 53.2M | 28.8% | Godsmack | 55.6M | 43.2M | 28.7% | Akon | 53.2M | 41.4M | 28.5% | Pink Floyd | 126.5M | 98.5M | 28.4% | The Doors | 48.4M | 37.7M | 28.4% | Elvis Presley | 91.4M | 71.5M | 27.8% | Radiohead | 64.5M | 50.6M | 27.5% | Grateful Dead | 52.4M | 41.5M | 26.3% | Frank Ocean | 214.3M | 170M | 26.1% | Adele | 146.6M | 116.3M | 26.1% | Billy Currington | 53.2M | 42.3M | 25.8% | Daddy Yankee | 73.2M | 58.9M | 24.3% | Frank Sinatra | 123.6M | 99.7M | 24.0% | Casting Crowns | 61.2M | 49.4M | 23.9% | Dierks Bentley | 83.8M | 67.8M | 23.6% | Disturbed | 87.8M | 71.1M | 23.5% | Red Hot Chili Peppers | 138.6M | 113.3M | 22.3% | Nicki Minaj | 174M | 142.6M | 22.0% | JAY-Z | 126.3M | 103.7M | 21.8% | Destiny's Child | 52M | 42.9M | 21.2% | Kelly Clarkson | 66.9M | 55.2M | 21.2% | Jack Johnson | 101.8M | 84M | 21.2% | Shinedown | 94.5M | 78M | 21.2% | Kendrick Lamar | 279.6M | 231.2M | 20.9% | Rascal Flatts | 78.6M | 65M | 20.9% | Zac Brown Band | 106.9M | 91.3M | 17.1% | Queen | 194.1M | 168M | 15.5% | Childish Gambino | 108.3M | 93.8M | 15.5% | Ella Mai | 96M | 83.9M | 14.4% | Blake Shelton | 167.2M | 146.9M | 13.8% | The Beatles | 301.3M | 268.9M | 12.0% | Elton John | 121.1M | 109.2M | 10.9% | Avenged Sevenfold | 65.5M | 60M | 9.2% | Imagine Dragons | 212.5M | 194.8M | 9.1% | My Chemical Romance | 87.5M | 80.9M | 8.2% | Aventura | 65.5M | 60.6M | 8.1% | Mumford & Sons | 60.2M | 55.7M | 8.1% | Beyonce | 237.4M | 220M | 7.9% | twenty one pilots | 154.5M | 147.9M | 4.5% | John Mayer | 121.8M | 116.6M | 4.5% | Rae Sremmurd | 57.8M | 56.2M | 2.8% | Demi Lovato | 102.6M | 102.4M | 0.2% | Migos | 151.7M | 151.6M | 0.1% | Hillsong United | 68.5M | 68.8M | -0.4% | Chris Young | 74M | 74.4M | -0.5% | Lauren Daigle | 93.9M | 98.2M | -4.4% | Meek Mill | 188.2M | 212.1M | -11.3% | Shakira | 83M | 94.7M | -12.4% |
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Post by Enigma. on Mar 10, 2021 9:04:31 GMT -5
Thank you! Nickelback revival is NOT what we want to see lol (but the general early 00s revival explain it of course).
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Post by iamsorare on Mar 10, 2021 9:15:55 GMT -5
Enigma. there are really no positives to how low audio streaming in the US is right now. Half the songs in the top 10 of Spotify US have less than 1M streams and the #1 song has less than 1.6M streams (and it's numbers are only that high because it's a new song). The new songs are still yet to gain any streams from the previous day and the older, more stable songs are barely gaining any streams on the days they manage to gain anything at all. That's bad any way you look at it. pop radio is slow nowadays too.I understand the big payola for maroon 5 and bruno mars songs but it's weird all the other songs to have really low updates
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Post by thegreatdivine on Mar 10, 2021 9:20:11 GMT -5
That data, while impressive, is misleading and doesn't paint the whole picture. If newer songs released from 2020-now are pulling record-low streams upon arrival, streaming isn't growing.
Catalog songs being streamed more and newer songs songs being streamed way less will cancel each other out. At best, streaming in the US has peaked/stopped growing but to make a case that streaming is growing when we have proof that it isn't, doesn't make sense.
I know Nielsen/RIAA/Alpha Data are determined to convince themselves that streaming is still growing and they'll use whatever methodology they need to use to put that information out there in their year-end reports but when streaming peaks in 2021 are matching streaming peaks from 5 years ago, that doesn't indicate growth in any regard. I don't need to see any breakdowns to know that.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Mar 10, 2021 9:22:15 GMT -5
iamsorare that's usually how it goes. There's only so many spins to go around so when new songs get released that make use of a radio deal/are getting massively pushed, they'll steal some spins/audience impressions from other songs to enable them to rise as quickly as they do. At least, I believe that's the way it works. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Mar 10, 2021 9:28:55 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2021/03/10
1(=) Olivia Rodrigo - drivers license 127.09(+0.31) 2(=) Chris Brown & Young Thug - Go Crazy 116.13(-2.48) 3(=) Ariana Grande - 34+35 104.68(+0.17) 4(=) Ariana Grande - positions 101.95(-0.53) 5(=) 24kGoldn - Mood (feat. iann dior) 100.77(-0.40) 6(=) Billie Eilish - Therefore I Am 97.14(+0.25) 7(=) Pop Smoke - What You Know Bout Love 88.04(+0.39) 8(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 84.60(+0.04) 9(=) Ritt Momney - Put Your Records On 77.65(+0.20) 10(=) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 72.38(+0.01)
24(+2) Cardi B - Up 50.15(+0.81)
37(+1) Florida Georgia Line - Long Live 41.61(+0.83) 42(+1) Gabby Barrett - The Good Ones 37.87(+0.73) 57(+1) Megan Thee Stallion - Cry Baby (feat. DaBaby) 27.62(+0.78)
71(+11) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak & Silk Sonic - Leave The Door Open 23.69(+4.26) 72(+8) Maroon 5 & Megan Thee Stallion - Beautiful Mistakes 23.39(+3.76)
-(-) Drake - What's Next 14.75(+2.01)
-(-) Luke Combs - Forever After All 6.35(+0.71)
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Post by thegreatdivine on Mar 10, 2021 9:40:49 GMT -5
With how fast Leave the Door Open is zooming up on radio, I hope it doesn't end up being front-loaded and actually serves some longevity because every song that will spend some time in the top 10 will need radio long-term.
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Post by kalmanta on Mar 10, 2021 9:41:17 GMT -5
The Beatles and Eagles numbers are super impressive😯 Also Frank Oceans and Ushers increase makes me super happy, but I hoped for a better gain for Beyoncé.
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Post by Groovy on Mar 10, 2021 9:51:25 GMT -5
Not radio having good taste by dropping Go Crazy and Good Time, you really love to see it.
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