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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Apr 8, 2021 0:08:40 GMT -5
So this skit has been on my mind for a few days so I've really wanted to make this thread. Note: this is not a diss to any of the past generations of music, this is merely an attempt to take off the rose-colored glasses we have, especially towards the 70s-80s. A lot of the good stuff gets remembered for future generations that we forget a lot of the crap that was just as popular at the time. I'll start with a few ones from the 80s; these are just ones I immediately thought of.
Ebony and Ivory by Stevie Wonder and Paul McCartney - noble and earnest in it's concept but absolutely saccharine, cheesy and boring in it's execution, and considering this is sadly one of Stevie's biggest hits on the Hot 100 is an incitement.
I Just Called to Say I Loved You by Stevie Wonder - on second thought, the 80s were not a good decade for the legend.
Waiting for You by Richard Marx - Richard Marx still sucks
Get Outta My Dreams, Get into My Car by Billy Ocean - I'm...not a Billy Ocean fan
I might as well include everything Captain and Tenille did.
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Apr 8, 2021 3:07:05 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing this very necessary rant. Filthy Frank truly spoke facts here.
Shout-out to the current generation of pop fans who complain about trap music and look at the 2008-2014 period with rose-tinted glasses. The amount of people who see 2014 as an 'iconic' and 'excellent' year concerns me. Just shows that the boomer mentality transcends age.
Anyway, back on topic. Of course, we have the infamous hits who still get recurrent play like "Physical", "We Are The World", and "(Everything I Do) I Do It For You" - three songs which aged like spoilt milk in my opinion. But here are a few forgotten dreadful tunes...
"Marvin Gaye" suddenly becomes "Sexual Healing" in comparison.
A #1 hit - ladies and gentlemen. The peak of disco overexposure.
A classic example when it comes to bad 70s songs.
And who could forget the Timmy T and Stevie B duo of random #1 hits totally forgotten nowadays - and both are generic and amateurish as hell.
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Apr 8, 2021 3:13:30 GMT -5
Also, one of my favorite memes poking fun at this mentality
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Post by salt on Apr 8, 2021 4:16:07 GMT -5
His biggest hit. What a shame.
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Post by leonagwen on Apr 8, 2021 4:41:02 GMT -5
So this skit has been on my mind for a few days so I've really wanted to make this thread. Note: this is not a diss to any of the past generations of music, this is merely an attempt to take off the rose-colored glasses we have, especially towards the 70s-80s. A lot of the good stuff gets remembered for future generations that we forget a lot of the crap that was just as popular at the time. I'll start with a few ones from the 80s; these are just ones I immediately thought of. Ebony and Ivory by Stevie Wonder and Paul McCartney - noble and earnest in it's concept but absolutely saccharine, cheesy and boring in it's execution, and considering this is sadly one of Stevie's biggest hits on the Hot 100 is an incitement. I Just Called to Say I Loved You by Stevie Wonder - on second thought, the 80s were not a good decade for the legend. Waiting for You by Richard Marx - Richard Marx still sucks Get Outta My Dreams, Get into My Car by Billy Ocean - I'm...not a Billy Ocean fan I might as well include everything Captain and Tenille did. I actually like Right Here Waiting For You and I just Called To Say I Love You. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean everyone is gonna agree with you. I was in my early 20's when those songs were out and they were big hits the years that they came out.Also The Captain and Tennile had the #1 song of the year in 1974 with Love Will Keep Us Together, and their 1980 song Do That to Me One More Time is a decent song.
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Post by jdanton2 on Apr 8, 2021 5:03:10 GMT -5
went through list of #1's by the decade . i actually like some of the songs above that were listed . but for me these are songs i really dislike.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Apr 8, 2021 5:05:12 GMT -5
So this skit has been on my mind for a few days so I've really wanted to make this thread. Note: this is not a diss to any of the past generations of music, this is merely an attempt to take off the rose-colored glasses we have, especially towards the 70s-80s. A lot of the good stuff gets remembered for future generations that we forget a lot of the crap that was just as popular at the time. I'll start with a few ones from the 80s; these are just ones I immediately thought of. Ebony and Ivory by Stevie Wonder and Paul McCartney - noble and earnest in it's concept but absolutely saccharine, cheesy and boring in it's execution, and considering this is sadly one of Stevie's biggest hits on the Hot 100 is an incitement. I Just Called to Say I Loved You by Stevie Wonder - on second thought, the 80s were not a good decade for the legend. Waiting for You by Richard Marx - Richard Marx still sucks Get Outta My Dreams, Get into My Car by Billy Ocean - I'm...not a Billy Ocean fan I might as well include everything Captain and Tenille did. I actually like Right Here Waiting For You and I just Called To Say I Love You. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean everyone is gonna agree with you. I was in my early 20's when those songs were out and they were big hits the years that they came out.Also The Captain and Tennile had the #1 song of the year in 1974 with Love Will Keep Us Together, and their 1980 song Do That to Me One More Time is a decent song. I never said you had to agree with me. You can like the songs I or anyone else shares as being bad hits (although I picked easy targets for my examples, it's not just me who thinks these songs suck. And yes, I know Captain and Tennile had the number one song of 1974. I don't like any Captain and Tennile song.) As someone who's gone through every 80s Top 10 hit, these are just the ones that stuck out to me as being lame.
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Post by leonagwen on Apr 8, 2021 5:15:25 GMT -5
I actually like Right Here Waiting For You and I just Called To Say I Love You. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean everyone is gonna agree with you. I was in my early 20's when those songs were out and they were big hits the years that they came out.Also The Captain and Tennile had the #1 song of the year in 1974 with Love Will Keep Us Together, and their 1980 song Do That to Me One More Time is a decent song. I never said you had to agree with me. You can like the songs I or anyone else shares as being bad hits (although I picked easy targets for my examples, it's not just me who thinks these songs suck. And yes, I know Captain and Tennile had the number one song of 1974. I don't like any Captain and Tennile song.) As someone who's gone through every 80s Top 10 hit, these are just the ones that stuck out to me as being lame. You didn't experience the 70s and 80s like I did. You basically got your list from an article.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Apr 8, 2021 6:56:46 GMT -5
I never said you had to agree with me. You can like the songs I or anyone else shares as being bad hits (although I picked easy targets for my examples, it's not just me who thinks these songs suck. And yes, I know Captain and Tennile had the number one song of 1974. I don't like any Captain and Tennile song.) As someone who's gone through every 80s Top 10 hit, these are just the ones that stuck out to me as being lame. You didn't experience the 70s and 80s like I did. You basically got your list from an article. Actually I got it from my own opinion lol. I've yet to go through 70s hits but I've actually gone through every Top 10 hit of the 80s. I can list more awful 80s hits if you want :)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 7:55:44 GMT -5
I don't think the older decades had much more good music than more recent years (although 1983 definitely tests that thesis), but I do think that there was less outright bad music back then than there has been in this century. The bad music from the 20th Century was mostly boring, dated and/or cheesy, all of which I can tolerate, while a lot of the bad music from this century has been much more aggressively and obviously bad, whether in lyrics or production. With that said, I've still found some songs I couldn't stand from the 80s and 90s, so I'll share a few of those songs here.
I know this is an easy target, but I've got to agree with the crowd here, because this cover sucks. I'm mostly apathetic towards the original, but I'd take that any day over Michael Bolton's grating, overblown belting. Seriously, how are his vocal chords still intact?
When I looked at 1987 for my blog, I found a good chunk of the year to be incredibly dated, but still largely tolerable and inoffensive (alongside a lot of the bops and classics people point to when gushing about the 80s). However, these two songs have aged so badly that they blow right past my limits for 80s cheese and end up being legitimately insufferable.
One of the most annoying songs ever made.
This, right here, is the worst song I've come across in any 20th Century year, and one of the worst songs I've ever heard, period. I'm baffled that someone thought this, a song called "Short Dick Man", was a good idea, and the fact that it became a Top 20 hit blows my mind (or the fact that it hit #1 in France and Italy and hit the Top 10 in several other countries). Insulting lyrics, an annoying "singer", a mindlessly repetitive beat, this is everything that can go wrong in a Pop song going wrong, and it's proof that just because it was made before the year 2000 doesn't make it good.
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Apr 8, 2021 9:45:41 GMT -5
^ I knew someone would bring "Short Dick Man" eventually. Even if I do think Gillette works well here (you can't say she's phoning it in, that's for sure), any ironic enjoyment I could get from the song is completely ruined by its humiliating body-shaming lyrics. Who thought this was a good idea?
And if you research on the background of the song, apparently the idea was to provide a response to the songs that objectified women. But as far as I'm concerned, while dehumanizing, I don't think any male rappers or singers were shaming skinny or fuller women, but only obsessing over their preferred body type. Why couldn't she just pull a "Peacock" here? At least it wouldn't be offensive like this.
Oh, and the less said about the clean version "Short, Short Man", the better.
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Post by Groovy on Apr 8, 2021 13:20:59 GMT -5
This song is literally about muskrats falling in love and worst, they have this annoying ass synth in the background that's supposed to imitate muskrats mating.
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Post by Enigma. on Apr 8, 2021 14:48:41 GMT -5
Africa mentioned in this thread wtf
(the lyrics are awful I give you that, but the song is GENIUS otherwise)
Also like the Exposé hit a lot but opinions...
The truly awful ones not mentioned here:
Stars on 45 - Stars on 45 Air Supply - The One That I Love Extreme - More Than Words
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Post by SabrinaFan on Apr 8, 2021 15:37:08 GMT -5
I didn't find the original "Come Go With Me" to be annoying, just kinda meh. The remix is awful though and literally goes on for over 7 minutes despite no new content or verses (it's just a distortion of the chorus vocals repeated over and over).
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Post by oliviafan101 on Apr 8, 2021 15:38:12 GMT -5
Gurl, you came to the wrong place ☠️
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Post by SabrinaFan on Apr 8, 2021 15:42:37 GMT -5
Gurl, you came to the wrong place ☠️ Why's that? Because of what I said in my post or is this an Olivia/Sabrina beef thing because your username is OliviaFan and I'm SabrinaFan lol? If it's the latter, I don't support "Skin" for the record haha.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Apr 8, 2021 15:43:31 GMT -5
Bette Midler's "From A Distance" was a pretty big hit in 1990, reaching all the way up to #2 on the Hot 100. The song is classic early 90's christian HAC cheese, but what makes this song stand out is the really terrible subject matter. Basically the reason why god doesn't help us with horrible situations happening on earth like war, famine, disease, etc. is because he's watching from a distance, and from his point of view the world is perfect and there's no guns, bombs or war. So god is an idiot basically.
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Post by suzcruz7 on Apr 8, 2021 18:00:33 GMT -5
My neighbors were playing Roxanne by The Police outside just a few minutes ago. It wasn't a huge hit on the charts but I feel like it's stuck around pretty well on radio and such. And boy it suuuuuuuuuuuuucks. Arizona Zervas did it better I'm sorry.
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Post by legend1982 on Apr 8, 2021 18:40:05 GMT -5
Also, one of my favorite memes poking fun at this mentality This is such a weird meme because Bicycle Race is clearly social commentary about late 1970s culture. That inane part of the song that they chose to highlight juxtaposes the verses that talk about all of the bad things going on: Watergate, income taxes, cocaine. The fact that people don't understand that says more about them than Freddie Mercury (the guy who wrote Bohemian Rhapsody).
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Post by jdanton2 on Apr 8, 2021 18:47:14 GMT -5
Africa mentioned in this thread wtf (the lyrics are awful I give you that, but the song is GENIUS otherwise) Also like the Exposé hit a lot but opinions... The truly awful ones not mentioned here: Stars on 45 - Stars on 45 Air Supply - The One That I Love Extreme - More Than Words i hate Africa with a passion. it is so over played on oldie stations that i have had to listen at my job. also a non #1 that i hate even more and so overplayed is the Journey song Don't Stop Believing.
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Post by Ezekiel 23:20–21 on Apr 8, 2021 19:37:16 GMT -5
The amount of delusion and bad taste in here is staggering.
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Post by mrmike855 on Apr 8, 2021 20:49:13 GMT -5
The reason people say "music was so much better in my generation" is due to them being naive kids who didn't have strong standards of music, but also because the mediocre music becomes lost to time and the truly horrible stuff is outnumbered by the good stuff, because pop music is rarely ever so bad that it become infamous.
There's probably a reason why most 70s aficionados pay more attention to artists like Aerosmith or War than The Carpenters or Linda Ronstadt, because the later two, despite being some of the most successful 70s artists, rarely ever made anything worth listening to and, unless you were there, you probably don't know much about their songs. It's not like you hear "You Light Up My Life" or "Afternoon Delight" or "Before the Next Teardrop Falls" anymore, despite all of them being some of the biggest songs of their year. Likewise for the 80s, you don't exactly hear "Endless Love" or "Got My Mind Set on You" because they are bland, forgettable songs.
Even now, there are songs from 5-10 years ago that are being forgotten that people didn't really like at the time. "Tonight I'm Loving You", "Look at Me Now", "Where Have You Been", "Scream & Shout", even "Rude", these songs were mostly considered crap at the time, yet they've mostly been forgotten and Zoomers are growing up without the memory of these uninteresting to crap songs.
This happens with every generation and I'm glad to see people making fun of this "music was better in my day" attitude more and more, but there are always going to be people who unironically say that. I'm sure 2018 will become nostalgic for young Zoomers in the not too distant future.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Apr 8, 2021 21:48:48 GMT -5
Also, one of my favorite memes poking fun at this mentality This is such a weird meme because Bicycle Race is clearly social commentary about late 1970s culture. That inane part of the song that they chose to highlight juxtaposes the verses that talk about all of the bad things going on: Watergate, income taxes, cocaine. The fact that people don't understand that says more about them than Freddie Mercury (the guy who wrote Bohemian Rhapsody).
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Post by legend1982 on Apr 8, 2021 22:28:34 GMT -5
This is such a weird meme because Bicycle Race is clearly social commentary about late 1970s culture. That inane part of the song that they chose to highlight juxtaposes the verses that talk about all of the bad things going on: Watergate, income taxes, cocaine. The fact that people don't understand that says more about them than Freddie Mercury (the guy who wrote Bohemian Rhapsody). No, I understand the joke perfectly. The poster that used the meme didn't and tried to make another point in the context of this conversation. I responded to their point. So, in that case, YOU didn't understand what I was commenting on. Instead of trying to score points, why not just read first?
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Post by Ezekiel 23:20–21 on Apr 8, 2021 23:27:47 GMT -5
A #1 hit - ladies and gentlemen. The peak of disco overexposure. This was never meant to be some artistic masterpiece. It's pure cheeky fun. It's a novelty. His biggest hit. What a shame. It's commonplace for artists to make songs about their private parts so it's not a big deal. "Bette Davis Eyes" is one of the greatest songs of all times. Many, many people love it. When I looked at 1987 for my blog, I found a good chunk of the year to be incredibly dated, but still largely tolerable and inoffensive (alongside a lot of the bops and classics people point to when gushing about the 80s). However, these two songs have aged so badly that they blow right past my limits for 80s cheese and end up being legitimately insufferable. You will not slander Exposé one of the greatest girl groups of all time like that. This is one of their greatest songs. This, right here, is the worst song I've come across in any 20th Century year, and one of the worst songs I've ever heard, period. I'm baffled that someone thought this, a song called "Short Dick Man", was a good idea, and the fact that it became a Top 20 hit blows my mind (or the fact that it hit #1 in France and Italy and hit the Top 10 in several other countries). Insulting lyrics, an annoying "singer", a mindlessly repetitive beat, this is everything that can go wrong in a Pop song going wrong, and it's proof that just because it was made before the year 2000 doesn't make it good. Just like with "Disco Duck" this is meant to be a novelty, silly song. Besides, most of us here are size queens so it's a bit hypocritical to criticize something that we actively do on a regular basis.
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Post by willapted33 on Apr 9, 2021 2:42:00 GMT -5
every guns n roses & bon jovi hit
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Apr 9, 2021 3:12:47 GMT -5
Just like with "Disco Duck" this is meant to be a novelty, silly song. Besides, most of us here are size queens so it's a bit hypocritical to criticize something that we actively do on a regular basis. Can you please not?
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Apr 9, 2021 11:09:00 GMT -5
No, I understand the joke perfectly. The poster that used the meme didn't and tried to make another point in the context of this conversation. I responded to their point. So, in that case, YOU didn't understand what I was commenting on. Instead of trying to score points, why not just read first? Er...why are you assuming I didn't understand the joke? That meme had no intention to drag Queen or "Bicycle Race" - it's just mocking those who deliberately select silly and repetitive lyrics from modern-day songs (usually rap) and compare them with rock classics, when the same thing can be done the other way around. Sure, it's not related to the topic of the thread (since we are talking about a great 70s song, for the reasons you've mentioned), but I still decided to share it because it highlights the hypocrisy of the people Filthy Frank was ranting about. And even if the lyrics and themes of "Bicycle Race" are strong, the chorus is admittedly pretty silly when taken out of context, which again, was deliberately done to set up the old music against the modern song. Here is another example of this.
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Post by Ezekiel 23:20–21 on Apr 9, 2021 17:56:23 GMT -5
Just like with "Disco Duck" this is meant to be a novelty, silly song. Besides, most of us here are size queens so it's a bit hypocritical to criticize something that we actively do on a regular basis. Can you please not? Shaming people for expressing their carnal desires is not a good look.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2021 19:00:19 GMT -5
Shaming people for expressing their carnal desires is not a good look. Shaming and taunting a man over his dong size isn't a good look either.
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