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Post by jayhawk1117 on May 13, 2021 15:07:14 GMT -5
Her last solo lead single debuted at #10 (cause of extra tidal streams) ..I don't see nicki going #1 next week If you're referring to Chun-Li, it debuted at #92 and then rose to #10 the following week off of suspicious, magical Tidal streams because I still remember that for that tracking week, no chart predictor had it reaching the top 10 or anywhere close to it. yeah that's what it was! I remember the most generous predictors saying 13 Max and some saying barely top 20. Then we were all shocked when Tidal, the app with even less users back then carried it that high. |
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Post by starlord on May 13, 2021 15:29:22 GMT -5
Pre album/mixtape rollout is so on point.
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Post by iHype. on May 13, 2021 15:35:54 GMT -5
Never understood why Chun-Li was accused of having suspicious streams so much, honestly.
Being predicted to debut #13~ and debuting #10 isn't some insane margin of error. It's not as if it was predicted to be #52 instead and went #10 or something.
On the opposite end of the spectrum too I very clearly remember "Barbie Dreams" was predicted to be top 10, and ended up debuting #18.
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Post by gikem on May 13, 2021 15:39:32 GMT -5
Pre album/mixtape rollout is so on point. Only 12 tracks, that's interesting. And one of them is The Climb Back, which already debuted on the Hot 100 last summer. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on May 13, 2021 15:55:16 GMT -5
Pre album/mixtape rollout is so on point. I'm reducing my expectation from over 400M streams to just over 300M streams. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2021 16:06:15 GMT -5
Is it normal for so many artists to release on the same day? I feel bad for people trying to predict the charts.
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Post by iggyamo on May 13, 2021 16:13:33 GMT -5
Given the recent news from the CDC mostly ending their mask mandate for vaccinated people, I think Mask Off by Future has a good chance of re-entering the week of 5/29. I’m seeing a whole lot of posts on social using Mask Off, maybe it could renter next week? Although it may be a FDT situation where it overloads on one day then immediately drops off |
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Post by gikem on May 13, 2021 16:14:30 GMT -5
Is it normal for so many artists to release on the same day? I feel bad for people trying to predict the charts. We've had crazy release days before. You may remember last November, BTS' BE dropped the same day as Megan Thee Stallion's album Good News, Shawn Mendes & Justin Bieber's single Monster, and three pre-album tracks from Morgan Wallen. The week all those debuted (12/5/2020) was absolutely insane, made all the more exasperating by Christmas music beginning its return to the top 50. |
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Post by jayhawk1117 on May 13, 2021 16:23:26 GMT -5
Never understood why Chun-Li was accused of having suspicious streams so much, honestly. Being predicted to debut #13~ and debuting #10 isn't some insane margin of error. It's not as if it was predicted to be #52 instead and went #10 or something. On the opposite end of the spectrum too I very clearly remember "Barbie Dreams" was predicted to be top 10, and ended up debuting #18. I mean it'd be different if the predictions were like "oh it might make it" but it was overwhelmingly "it's a miss". |
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Post by meg on May 13, 2021 16:27:18 GMT -5
Is it normal for so many artists to release on the same day? I feel bad for people trying to predict the charts. We've had crazy release days before. You may remember last November, BTS' BE dropped the same day as Megan Thee Stallion's album Good News, Shawn Mendes & Justin Bieber's single Monster, and three pre-album tracks from Morgan Wallen. The week all those debuted (12/5/2020) was absolutely insane, made all the more exasperating by Christmas music beginning its return to the top 50. I think it's also because of BBMA. And it's the beginning of summer. Every artist wants to have song of the summer. I think next week it's gonna be between BTS ad Lil Nas. |
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Post by s9983 on May 13, 2021 16:37:26 GMT -5
We've had crazy release days before. You may remember last November, BTS' BE dropped the same day as Megan Thee Stallion's album Good News, Shawn Mendes & Justin Bieber's single Monster, and three pre-album tracks from Morgan Wallen. The week all those debuted (12/5/2020) was absolutely insane, made all the more exasperating by Christmas music beginning its return to the top 50. I think it's also because of BBMA. And it's the beginning of summer. Every artist wants to have song of the summer. I think next week it's gonna be between BTS ad Lil Nas. Lil nas got extremely lucky with montero. Not a chance he even goes top 5 again without stirring some controversy. BTS is very easily gonna take it with mass buying. Won't even be close |
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Post by GP on May 13, 2021 16:46:48 GMT -5
Come on Dua!!!
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Post by GP on May 13, 2021 16:50:22 GMT -5
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Post by suzcruz7 on May 13, 2021 16:55:21 GMT -5
I think it's also because of BBMA. And it's the beginning of summer. Every artist wants to have song of the summer. I think next week it's gonna be between BTS ad Lil Nas. Lil nas got extremely lucky with montero. Not a chance he even goes top 5 again without stirring some controversy. BTS is very easily gonna take it with mass buying. Won't even be close Lmao effective marketing isn't getting "lucky." It's him being good at his job. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2021 16:59:37 GMT -5
Is it normal for so many artists to release on the same day? I feel bad for people trying to predict the charts. We've had crazy release days before. You may remember last November, BTS' BE dropped the same day as Megan Thee Stallion's album Good News, Shawn Mendes & Justin Bieber's single Monster, and three pre-album tracks from Morgan Wallen. The week all those debuted (12/5/2020) was absolutely insane, made all the more exasperating by Christmas music beginning its return to the top 50. I just don't remember so many singles coming out the same week. Admittedly I don't pay that close attention. It just seems like a lot. In all honesty, I like Lil Nas but he really doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell against BTS's Butter. I don't think his debut week points are anywhere near what Dynamite was and Butter should be at least that high if not higher. I don't even know if Adele could stand a chance against them on a week one single release for an English song. |
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Post by ontopofthis on May 13, 2021 17:01:12 GMT -5
Leave the Door Open for number one again
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Post by iHype. on May 13, 2021 17:05:15 GMT -5
Never understood why Chun-Li was accused of having suspicious streams so much, honestly. Being predicted to debut #13~ and debuting #10 isn't some insane margin of error. It's not as if it was predicted to be #52 instead and went #10 or something. On the opposite end of the spectrum too I very clearly remember "Barbie Dreams" was predicted to be top 10, and ended up debuting #18. I mean it'd be different if the predictions were like "oh it might make it" but it was overwhelmingly "it's a miss". He didn't feel confident about #9-#14 at all, and he had Chun-Li just 10 points off from that area lol. He predicted "Mine" to be #9, yet it was actually #14 that week. Every single position from #9-#18 was incorrectly predicted from him that week. Clearly just seemed to be a difficult week rather than 1 song being suspicious. |
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Post by ontopofthis on May 13, 2021 17:07:35 GMT -5
Those sales seem to be extremely inaccurate |
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Post by Mayman on May 13, 2021 17:28:37 GMT -5
Not 100% sure if barbs have what it takes to push nicki to #1, especially since she's not a big streaming force. If the song doesn't have website sales it's pretty obvious it's not going #1, but one thing is for sure... If it does and does goes #1, it'll prolly be the most fraudulent #1 ever, even moreso than BTS because at least they would have the itunes sales and more streams to back it up, whereas her single will prolly barely make top 10, or barely miss it without website sales. Billboard allowing mass buying manipulation to prove sales aren't dead is a joke. The song isn't even out yet, calm down.  |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on May 13, 2021 17:29:05 GMT -5
^^Unless the sales from Amazon do come through. At least in iTunes, LTDO has been above Levitating all week at iTunes. |
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Post by kimberly on May 13, 2021 17:47:11 GMT -5
^^Unless the sales from Amazon do come through. At least in iTunes, LTDO has been above Levitating all week at iTunes. even after combining versions? |
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Post by goldentakes on May 13, 2021 17:57:39 GMT -5
Kind of hope Levitating hits number 1.Speaking of Dua though, I have no idea why Electricity never became a hit. Just an all around great vibe, kind of surprised it never caught on.
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on May 13, 2021 18:27:40 GMT -5
Pre album/mixtape rollout is so on point. I'd buy the album based on the cover only.🔥 |
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Post by gikem on May 13, 2021 18:38:56 GMT -5
Kind of hope Levitating hits number 1.Speaking of Dua though, I have no idea why Electricity never became a hit. Just an all around great vibe, kind of surprised it never caught on. Probably because it's a piano-driven house song, which generally are never as huge in the US as they are in Europe. That was especially true in 2018, when trap-flavored pop was at its peak. Dua may have been able to get away with a house cut being a hit in the US with One Kiss, but I always felt like that was more because it was a Calvin Harris song continuing his momentum from the FWB era, so it wasn't likely to work a second time for her. Side note: I recently happened upon another house song from 2018 that charted in the US, "Side Effects" by The Chainsmokers ft. Emily Warren, and it's striking how much that song sounds like an outtake from Future Nostalgia despite being released 2 years earlier. It makes sense because Emily Warren has co-written some of Dua's biggest hits, including New Rules and Don't Start Now. I've seen no confirmation of it anywhere, but I wouldn't be surprised if The Chainsmokers wanted to get Dua to sing Side Effects, but she couldn't because she was already prepping to release Electricity. |
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Post by tommy1860 on May 13, 2021 18:56:42 GMT -5
^^Unless the sales from Amazon do come through. At least in iTunes, LTDO has been above Levitating all week at iTunes. even after combining versions? Levitating does have another version at 24. Looking at Kworb, that would put it above Leave The Door Open. I haven’t checked all week though, so not sure if that would have been the case all week. |
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Post by kimberly on May 13, 2021 19:04:59 GMT -5
even after combining versions? Levitating does have another version at 24. Looking at Kworb, that would put it above Leave The Door Open. I haven’t checked all week though, so not sure if that would have been the case all week. that's what I thought. unless LTDO has a different version that I'm overlooking, Levitating hasn't been below LTDO since at least 5/6. |
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Post by s9983 on May 13, 2021 19:09:50 GMT -5
Lil nas got extremely lucky with montero. Not a chance he even goes top 5 again without stirring some controversy. BTS is very easily gonna take it with mass buying. Won't even be close Lmao effective marketing isn't getting "lucky." It's him being good at his job. Ofc it's being good at promoting his song to be hyped but there's a large part of luck in that. He's lucky that his song created enough controversy like that. I don't see him pulling controversy and pulling numbers like that again. U know what i mean when i say he got lucky with his situation. Same thing with wap. Controversy = lucky in a sense |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2021 19:20:45 GMT -5
Levitating does have another version at 24. Looking at Kworb, that would put it above Leave The Door Open. I haven’t checked all week though, so not sure if that would have been the case all week. that's what I thought. unless LTDO has a different version that I'm overlooking, Levitating hasn't been below LTDO since at least 5/6. Just looked on websites and LTDO also has a live version. |
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Post by kimberly on May 13, 2021 19:22:59 GMT -5
that's what I thought. unless LTDO has a different version that I'm overlooking, Levitating hasn't been below LTDO since at least 5/6. Just looked on websites and LTDO also has a live version. the one that's below iTunes Top 200? |
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Post by GP on May 13, 2021 19:25:46 GMT -5
that's what I thought. unless LTDO has a different version that I'm overlooking, Levitating hasn't been below LTDO since at least 5/6. Just looked on websites and LTDO also has a live version. TOTC predicts 18k just from itunes on their site to Levitating while LTDO "only" gets 14k |
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