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Post by Mayman on May 28, 2021 8:25:10 GMT -5
I think it's fair to be openly salty here and say it's pretty funny that despite these numbers, Billboard will still refuse to say it's the most popular song of the week. Spotify is one streaming service of many, and then streaming is one metric of 3. I think it's fair to openly say that Spotify alone should not dictate the Hot 100. Well Good 4 U is #1 on Spotify, Apple Music, and Amazon Music, as well as #3 on iTunes and exploding on radio. I think it's safe to say that Good 4 U is the most popular song of the week, and you can't say anything to change that. |
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Post by Enigma. on May 28, 2021 8:26:53 GMT -5
Olivia pulling bigger numbers than Drake, never thought I'd see that.
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Post by thegreatdivine on May 28, 2021 8:39:56 GMT -5
Olivia pulling bigger numbers than Drake, never thought I'd see that. I mean, didn't drivers license already break Drake's record for most daily US Spotify streams for a song early this year? I was always confident her album would do really well on Spotify (not this well, obviously, as good 4 u kinda came outta nowhere much like drivers license and SOUR has remained really stable) but I'm always here for streaming records being broken because that's one sure way to further confirm that it's growing. After her breaking all these Spotify records, I'm now hoping she somehow surpasses thank u, next's streaming record (307M US streams). It'll be the first time since Scorpion's first two weeks with 2 consecutive weeks of the #1 album on the Billboard 200 pulling over 300M US streams. Having 2 albums manage that back to back will be great to see. It'll also signal to the industry that streaming is back being healthy so more major mainstream acts can start releasing their albums. Like I said earlier, I can totally see SOUR having multiple 100M+ US stream weeks. Right now only 3 female albums have more than 1 week with over 100M+ US streams and all 3 only have 2 weeks with that much streams (thank u next, Lover and folklore). For reference: pulsemusic.proboards.com/thread/197359/biggest-streaming-weeks-billboard-200 |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on May 28, 2021 8:51:51 GMT -5
I think it's fair to be openly salty here and say it's pretty funny that despite these numbers, Billboard will still refuse to say it's the most popular song of the week. Spotify is one streaming service of many, and then streaming is one metric of 3. I think it's fair to openly say that Spotify alone should not dictate the Hot 100. If we go buy Rolling Stones' charts which just takes into account sales and streaming and doesn't have the weird weighing Billboard does, good 4 u is beating Butter. So yeah, we can definitively say it is the most popular song this week |
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Post by thegreatdivine on May 28, 2021 9:08:35 GMT -5
I'm all for new artists shaking things up. One sign of health, in any industry, are new names coming in and having impact. Right now, I don't think there are up to 10 names one can consider true industry heavyweights who you're 100% sure can cause damage on the charts with their releases and that's terrible. Newer acts should 100% be the ones most of the damage. People like Taylor Swift, Drake, Bruno Mars, etc are icons already. They have the stats and the accolades to back that up. They've written their names in the record books and nothing can ever take that away. Them scoring more #1 albums/#1 singles will only add to their already bosterous careers. They have nothing left to prove and the music industry really can't keep waiting for only those few names to drop and have major impact because when they go silent, a huge gap emerges and it should never be like that.
The next female artist I'm really looking forward to making a huge splash with their album is Doja Cat. That lady is so talented. I hope her next single and her album do really well. It'd be really nice to see the GP come out and show her album support when it drops. We need more female mainstream giants. Taylor Swift/Ariana Grande can only do so much for so long (with the other few major mainstream female acts going 5+ years without releasing albums).
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on May 28, 2021 9:11:06 GMT -5
Spotify is one streaming service of many, and then streaming is one metric of 3. I think it's fair to openly say that Spotify alone should not dictate the Hot 100. If we go buy Rolling Stones' charts which just takes into account sales and streaming and doesn't have the weird weighing Billboard does, good 4 u is beating Butter. So yeah, we can definitively say it is the most popular song this week The Rolling Stones chart doesnβt take into consideration radio, and thatβs a big problem in my opinion. |
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Post by violentdreams on May 28, 2021 9:12:34 GMT -5
I think it's fair to be openly salty here and say it's pretty funny that despite these numbers, Billboard will still refuse to say it's the most popular song of the week. Spotify is one streaming service of many, and then streaming is one metric of 3. I think it's fair to openly say that Spotify alone should not dictate the Hot 100. What a weird nitpick. You know as well as I do that wasn't my argument, and you also know that it dominated every platform equally as hard. The broken Spotify record is only a microcosm of something that is blatantly obvious to everyone, including people who want to see Butter go #1 this week. I'm not gonna play pretend just because Billboard needs clicks from BTS fans and will feign ignorance about their broken system to make sure it can happen over and over again. |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on May 28, 2021 9:14:04 GMT -5
If we go buy Rolling Stones' charts which just takes into account sales and streaming and doesn't have the weird weighing Billboard does, good 4 u is beating Butter. So yeah, we can definitively say it is the most popular song this week The Rolling Stones chart doesnβt take into consideration radio, and thatβs a big problem in my opinion. You mean the only reason Blinding Lights is still on the Hot 100 |
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Post by Groovy on May 28, 2021 9:17:04 GMT -5
This single rollout for SOUR is gonna be interesting, will they end up pushing enough for you? Will they go for one of the other songs on the album such as favorite crime, brutal or traitor? Only time will tell.
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Post by jenglisbe on May 28, 2021 9:17:33 GMT -5
Spotify is one streaming service of many, and then streaming is one metric of 3. I think it's fair to openly say that Spotify alone should not dictate the Hot 100. Well Good 4 U is #1 on Spotify, Apple Music, and Amazon Music, as well as #3 on iTunes and exploding on radio. I think it's safe to say that Good 4 U is the most popular song of the week, and you can't say anything to change that. I was responding to the specific reply you made that was in response to a Spotify stat. |
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Post by dovahduck on May 28, 2021 9:25:54 GMT -5
The Rolling Stones chart doesnβt take into consideration radio, and thatβs a big problem in my opinion. You mean the only reason Blinding Lights is still on the Hot 100 And despite that, if it weren't for the recurrent rule, it would still be in the top 40 (at least according to the Rolling Stones chart). |
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Post by Mayman on May 28, 2021 9:26:04 GMT -5
Well Good 4 U is #1 on Spotify, Apple Music, and Amazon Music, as well as #3 on iTunes and exploding on radio. I think it's safe to say that Good 4 U is the most popular song of the week, and you can't say anything to change that. I was responding to the specific reply you made that was in response to a Spotify stat. That users point was that Good 4 U is breaking records with streaming, but won't get the #1 because of the same few people buying 10 copies of a song to manipulate the chart. Unless you think a song that is currently #14 on Spotify and #57 on Apple Music should be #1, which in that case, you're delusional. |
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Post by jenglisbe on May 28, 2021 9:31:44 GMT -5
I was responding to the specific reply you made that was in response to a Spotify stat. That users point was that Good 4 U is breaking records with streaming, but won't get the #1 because of the same few people buying 10 copies of a song to manipulate the chart. Unless you think a song that is currently #14 on Spotify and #57 on Apple Music should be #1, which in that case, you're delusional. I didn't say "Butter" (or anything else) deserved to be #1. I replied to a specific post about that specific information. You are continually bringing in information that was not included in the post to which I responded. |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on May 28, 2021 9:47:35 GMT -5
US Spotify - 05/27/21
Olivia Rodrigo - SOUR
1(=) good 4 u 4,379,734 (-152,657)
2(=) deja vu 2,330,920 (-44,752)
3(=) traitor 2,157,062 (-90,543)
4(=) brutal 1,893,729 (-102,596)
5(=) favorite crime 1,834,465 (+18,067)
6(=) happier 1,719,420 (-67,388)
7(=) enough for you 1,643,690 (-89,009)
8(=) drivers license 1,602,293 (-29,082)
10(-1) 1 step forward, 3 steps back 1,453,188 (-85,597)
11(=) jealousy, jealous 1,400,575 (-60,440)
13(=) hope ur ok 1,212,099 (-50,956)
Total Streams: 21,627,175
Others:
9(+1) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More 1,541,027 (+9,256)
12(=) Polo G - RAPSTAR 1,298,541 (+4,745)
14(=) BTS - Butter 1,172,746 (-19,543)
15(=) Dua Lipa - Levitating 1,081,029 (-3,517)
16(=) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 1,073,696 (-6,093)
17(=) J. Cole - m y . l i f e 895,938 (-27,690)
18(=) Justin Bieber - Peaches 892,269 (+7,462)
19(=) J. Cole - p r i d e . i s . t h e . d e v i l 816,668 (-19,241)
20(=) Drake - Wants and Needs 778,291 (+4,314)
21(=) Masked Wolf - Astronaut In The Ocean 757,627 (+8,640)
22(=) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 741,780 (+1,801)
23(=) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Leave the Door Open 703,616 (+3,328)
24(=) Trippie Redd - Miss the Rage 691,377 (+7,321)
25(=) J. Cole - a m a r i 646,504 (-27,030)
26(=) Giveon - Heartbreak Anniversary 613,716 (+13,021)
27(=) Bella Poarch - Build a Bitch 587,574 (-7,019)
28(+1) Cardi B - Up 583,701 (+1,263)
29(-1) Polo G - GANG GANG 577,537 (-13,536)
30(=) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears Remix 553,301 (+1,289)
31(=) Kali Uchis - telepatΓa 534,337 (+2,153)
32(=) Saweetie - Best Friend 534,337 (+7,624)
33(+3) Maroon 5 - Beautiful Mistakes 502,043 (+7,074)
35(-2) Lil Nas X - SUN GOES DOWN 501,006 (-11,738)
38(-1) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug, Gunna - Solid 492,652 (-703)
39(+1) Lil Tecca - Never Left 484,834 (-4,520)
40(-5) J. Cole - i n t e r l u d e 476,533 (-21,645)
42(=) Lil Tjay, 6LACK - Calling My Phone 461,167 (+1,479)
43(+1) DJ Khaled - EVERY CHANCE I GET 447,756 (+3,253)
44(+3) 42 Dugg - 4 Da Gang 433,626 (-16,206)
46(-5) J. Cole - 9 5 . s o u t h 434,868 (-24,835)
48(-3) Billie Eilish - Your Power 429,096 (-8,218)
51(-3) Joyner Lucas, Lil Baby - Ramen & OJ 426,194 (-441)
53(=) The Kid LAROI - WITHOUT YOU 408,701 (+4,189)
55(-1) Nicki Minaj - Seeing Green 398,498 (-5,992)
56(+1) Luke Combs - Forever After All 387,351 (+7,068)
58(+1) Justin Bieber - Hold On 368,953 (+3,955)
60(-2) Migos - Straightenin 367,354 (-5,956)
62(-2) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 361,974 (+4,352)
65(+10) Los Legendarios, Wisin, Jhay Cortez - Fiel 355,565 (+16,861)
67(-4) Cico P - Tampa 354,792 (+1,103)
69(+27) Surf Curse - Freaks 352,885 (+51,307)
72(-3) StarBoi3 - Dick 348,160 (+1,228)
75(-1) MoneyBagg Yo - Wockesha 340,147 (+1,370)
78(-13) J. Cole - l e t . g o . m y . h a n d 335,352 (-16,497)
79(-15) J. Cole - 1 0 0 . m i l β 334,157 (-17,976)
82(-14) J. Cole - a p p l y i n g . p r e s s u r e 326,160 (-20,940)
85(-7) City Girls - Twerkulator 324,394 (-6,574)
87(+1) Kevin Gates - Big Gangsta 317,252 (+5,184)
90(-3) AURORA - Runaway 312,316 (-2,065)
92(=) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug, Gunna - Ski 306,716 (+3,049)
94(-12) J. Cole - t h e . c l i m b . b a c k 306,170 (-14,564)
95(-4) Nelly, Florida Georgia Line - Lil Bit 305,228 (+480)
96(-2) Internet Money - His & Hers 304,051 (+866)
98(+2) Dua Lipa - We're Good 296,989 (+6,484)
100(-5) Tion Wayne, Russ Millions - Body (Remix) 295,077 (-8,075)
103(+41) Rauw Alejandro - Todo De Ti 288,217 (+50,400)
104(-2) Duncan Laurence - Arcade 287,337 (-913)
117(-3) Beach Bunny - Cloud 9 272,429 (+1,049)
118(-5) BIA - WHOLE LOTTA MONEY 272,407 (+619)
124(=) Mitski - Washing Machine Heart 264,935 (+274)
125(=) Paramore - Misery Business 262,253 (+992)
126(-14) Twenty One Pilots - Shy Away 261,904 (-13,953)
129(+10) WILLOW - t r a n s p a r e n t s o u l 259,586 (+17,301)
135(-3) Ryan Hurd - Chasing After You 253,363 (+724)
137(=) Marshmello - Leave Before You Love Me 249,499 (+6,497)
152(-19) Twenty One Pilots - Saturday 234,706 (-15,042)
169(-16) A Boogie Wit da Hoodie - 24 Hours 226,196 (-4,701)
170(-3) Don Toliver - What You Need 225,686 (-530)
173(+5) SoFaygo - Knock Knock 224,094 (+40,36)
183(-8) Ashnikko Princess Nokia - Slumber Party 220,724 (-1,629)
189(-7) Chris Young, Kane Brown - Famous Friends 218,741 (+542)
192(-43) Dream - Mask 218,404 (-16,238)
Total Streams for Save Your Tears: 915,275
Biggest Gains (50K+): Todo De Ti, Freaks
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on May 28, 2021 10:02:56 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2021/05/28
1(=) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak & Silk Sonic - Leave The Door Open 111.66(+0.14)
2(=) Justin Bieber - Peaches (feat. Daniel Caesar & GIVΔON) 106.74(+0.35)
3(=) The Weeknd & Ariana Grande - Save Your Tears (Remix) 83.60(-0.83)
4(=) Dua Lipa - Levitating (feat. DaBaby) 82.97(+0.35)
5(=) The Kid LAROI & Miley Cyrus - WITHOUT YOU (Miley Cyrus Remix) 65.55(-0.21)
6(=) Ariana Grande - pov 54.03(+0.16)
7(=) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 53.10(-0.20)
8(=) Maroon 5 & Megan Thee Stallion - Beautiful Mistakes 49.96(+0.13)
9(=) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More (feat. SZA) 49.28(+1.25)
10(=) Masked Wolf - Astronaut In The Ocean 45.76(+0.32)
12(+6) Dylan Scott - Nobody 44.05(+1.05)
13(+4) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 44.01(+1.00)
35(+2) Miranda Lambert - Settling Down 31.38(+0.70)
56(+5) BTS - Butter 24.04(+2.76)
98(+6) Old Dominion - I Was On a Boat That Day 13.10(+0.73)
-(-) Marshmello & Jonas Brothers - Leave Before You Love Me 10.33(+1.68)
-(-) Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u 9.48(+1.24)
-(-) Rauw Alejandro - Todo De Ti 3.23(+1.30) + -(-) BIA - WHOLE LOTTA MONEY 2.69(+1.19) +
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on May 28, 2021 10:13:11 GMT -5
US Spotify - Week 05/27/21
Olivia Rodrigo - SOUR
1(=) good 4 u 31,739,490
2(+12) deja vu 17,172,477
3(debut) traitor 15,859,798
4(debut) brutal 15,102,362
5(debut) happier 12,954,435
6(debut) enough for you 12,891,849
7(+19) drivers license 12,330,891
8(debut) 1 step forward, 3 steps back 11,914,564
9(debut) favorite crime 11,861,745
10(debut) jealousy, jealous 10,878,327
12(debut) hope ur ok 9,604,944
Total Streams: 162,310,882
11(-5) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More 10,784,324
13(debut) BTS - Butter 9,370,906
14(-6) Polo G - RAPSTAR 9,255,886
15(-2) Dua Lipa - Levitating 7,864,788
16(-1) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 7,658,494
17(-15) J. Cole - m y . l i f e 7,384,507
18(-1) Justin Bieber - Peaches 6,499,676
19(-15) J. Cole - p r i d e . i s . t h e . d e v i l 6,444,032
20(+1) Masked Wolf - Astronaut in the Ocean 5,413,253
21(-18) J. Cole - a m a r i 5,298,813
22(+1) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 5,144,802
23(+2) Drake - Wants and Needs 5,131,499
24(-2) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Leave the Door Open 5,071,705
25(debut) Polo G - GANG GANG 4,875,671
26(-6) Trippie Redd - Miss the Rage 4,771,487
29(+11) Bella Poarch - Build a Bitch 4,074,813
30(-23) J. Cole - i n t e r l u d e 3,997,890
31(-2) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears Remix 3,959,498
32(debut) Lil Nas X - SUN GOES DOWN 3,901,452
33(-1) Kali Uchis - telepatΓa 3,776,319
35(-30) J. Cole - 9 5 . s o u t h 3,685,036
36(-16) Lil Tecca - Never Left 3,445,581
38(+1) Maroon 5 - Beautiful Mistakes 3,469,385
42(-18) Nicki Minaj - Seeing Green 3,234,081
46(+20) 42 Dugg - 4 Da Gang 3,107,551
48(-5) DJ Khaled - EVERY CHANCE I GET 3,066,817
58(-28) Migos - Straightenin 2,778,911
61(-20) Luke Combs - Forever After All 2,683,802
65(debut) City Girls - Twerkulator 2,541,422
67(re-entry) BTS - Dynamite 2,512,503
69(-10) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 2,500,056
72(+35) MoneyBagg Yo - Wockesha 2,468,577
74(re-entry) Twenty One Pilots - Shy Away 2,423,103
78(debut) Twenty One Pilots - Saturday 2,410,010
96(+7) Nelly, Florida Georgia Line - Lil Bit 2,160,177
97(-47) Internet Money - His & Hers 2,153,702
100(debut) Dream - Mask 2,123,680
105(debut) A Boogie Wit da Hoodie - 24 Hours 2,041,135
130(+1) Mitski - Washing Machine Heart 1,821,283
138(+5) Ryan Hurd - Chasing After You 1,765,968
141(debut) Paramore - Misery Business 1,717,474
142(debut) Pooh Shiesty - Switch It Up 1,708,443
143(re-entry) Olivia Rodrigo - All I Want 1,707,306
147(+36) WILLOW - t r a n s p a r e n t s o u l 1,667,637
150(debut) Marshmello - Leave Before You Love Me 1,643,222
Total Streams for Save Your Tears: 6,459,554
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Post by violentdreams on May 28, 2021 10:16:21 GMT -5
That users point was that Good 4 U is breaking records with streaming, but won't get the #1 because of the same few people buying 10 copies of a song to manipulate the chart. Unless you think a song that is currently #14 on Spotify and #57 on Apple Music should be #1, which in that case, you're delusional. I didn't say "Butter" (or anything else) deserved to be #1. I replied to a specific post about that specific information. You are continually bringing in information that was not included in the post to which I responded. So what did you do then? Draw unreasonable conclusions about my post that no normal person would have come to? If your honest reaction to that post was "Wow I can't believe he's saying Spotify should dictate 100% of the charts" then that's on you, not me. But just for you I'll make my stance clear, no I don't think Spotify should dictate 100% of the charts. Does that make it clear to you? I hope this helps. |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on May 28, 2021 10:21:06 GMT -5
SOUR [Olivia Rodrigo] (pop): brutal, drivers license, deja vu, good 4 u, enough for you, hope ur ok (7/10) - B+
Worst: jealousy jealousy
Really hope brutal is the next single, though I have warmed up to favorite crime so I wouldn't mind that as the fourth single either.
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Post by shaz196 on May 28, 2021 11:04:20 GMT -5
Last week good 4 u had 34.5 million on-demand streams according to HDD. 17.9 million of those came from Spotify, that's 52%.
This week SOUR has 162.3 million streams from Spotify, if that represents 52% of her total on-demand streams then she accumulated around 312 million. Even if Spotify represented a larger portion of her streams, you also have to factor in YouTube.
I think over 300 million total streams is a real possibility, we'll have a better picture when HDD releases their streaming songs chart later today.
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Post by lugus15 on May 28, 2021 11:29:51 GMT -5
So it's a little over 3x for Olivia. NOT the 4x her stans were claiming.
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Post by thegreatdivine on May 28, 2021 11:38:55 GMT -5
Last week good 4 u had 34.5 million on-demand streams according to HDD. 17.9 million of those came from Spotify, that's 52%. This week SOUR has 162.3 million streams from Spotify, if that represents 52% of her total on-demand streams then she accumulated around 312 million. Even if Spotify represented a larger portion of her streams, you also have to factor in YouTube. I think over 300 million total streams is a real possibility, we'll have a better picture when HDD releases their streaming songs chart later today. I just want her Billboard 200 article to highlight her breaking some records. I love records being broken. |
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on May 28, 2021 11:41:22 GMT -5
You mean the only reason Blinding Lights is still on the Hot 100 And despite that, if it weren't for the recurrent rule, it would still be in the top 40 (at least according to the Rolling Stones chart). Not to mention, BL is still in the Top 40 in both the digital sales and streaming charts, and was just in the Top 25 of both metrics just a few weeks ago. A lot of the songs above BL were one week wonders. |
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Post by jayhawk1117 on May 28, 2021 12:04:26 GMT -5
So it's a little over 3x for Olivia. NOT the 4x her stans were claiming. you still hurt over this huh Edit - Yeah the stream lead is ONLY 3 to 1, close race |
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Post by s9983 on May 28, 2021 12:42:46 GMT -5
So it's a little over 3x for Olivia. NOT the 4x her stans were claiming. Everytime u comment like a little stan its always something dumb and embarrassing :( |
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Post by nathanalbright on May 28, 2021 12:55:15 GMT -5
No need to keep beating on him. I think the data is pretty obvious about which song this week has more widespread and general appeal.
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Post by Mayman on May 28, 2021 13:01:30 GMT -5
B*tter debuts at #16 on HDD's Streaming chart, yikes.  |
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Post by kcdawg13 on May 28, 2021 13:03:43 GMT -5
good 4 u is the biggest song of the week no matter what Billboard says, these numbers are some king shit from Olivia.
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Post by jred on May 28, 2021 13:06:15 GMT -5
Itβs insane how dominant good 4 u has been this week. Whether or not Billboard publishes an accurate chart next week, itβs very rare a song feels as big as this one does right now.
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Post by mgkjn11 on May 28, 2021 13:38:17 GMT -5
B*tter debuts at #16 on HDD's Streaming chart, yikes. The number one song in the USA according to billboard everyone! |
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Post by οΌ³ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½π€ο½ο½ on May 28, 2021 13:55:10 GMT -5
Imagine...a song breaks the all-time Spotify record, and it finishes at #2. That's not fair, and I don't care what BTS stans have to say, they can buy 1 million copies of Butter (btw, great name π), but G4U is the biggest song of the week, and you know it. Just like WAP was last year, in August and September.
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