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Post by phieaglesfan712 on May 29, 2021 23:51:48 GMT -5
Crazy to think BTS will have half as many #1 hits as Bruno Mars, who took a decade to achieve 8 #1 singles To be fair, though, Savage Love should not count as a #1 for BTS. In my book, BTS has 2 #1's, and Butter would be the 3rd. |
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Post by sergf13 on May 30, 2021 0:13:12 GMT -5
Crazy to think BTS will have half as many #1 hits as Bruno Mars, who took a decade to achieve 8 #1 singles To be fair, though, Savage Love should not count as a #1 for BTS. In my book, BTS has 2 #1's, and Butter would be the 3rd. That song would not have gone #1 without BTS tho, so you shouldn't be counting it as a #1 for anyone if you feel that way. |
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on May 30, 2021 0:23:55 GMT -5
To be fair, though, Savage Love should not count as a #1 for BTS. In my book, BTS has 2 #1's, and Butter would be the 3rd. That song would not have gone #1 without BTS tho, so you shouldn't be counting it as a #1 for anyone if you feel that way. To me, if you were not originally on the song, it shouldn't count. It's not just BTS. I felt that way ever since Britney was credited on S&M. Artists should not be able to pad their stats simply by tagging along on another's song. |
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Post by sergf13 on May 30, 2021 0:27:28 GMT -5
That song would not have gone #1 without BTS tho, so you shouldn't be counting it as a #1 for anyone if you feel that way. To me, if you were not originally on the song, it shouldn't count. It's not just BTS. I felt that way ever since Britney was credited on S&M. Artists should not be able to pad their stats simply by tagging along on another's song. I would agree with you if the song was going to go #1 regardless, but in this case BTS was the only reason why it even hit #1. If BTS shouldn't be credited for a song that they directly pushed to #1, then I don't think Jason Derulo or Jawsh 685 should be credited either. |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on May 30, 2021 0:48:49 GMT -5
That song would not have gone #1 without BTS tho, so you shouldn't be counting it as a #1 for anyone if you feel that way. It's not just BTS. I felt that way ever since Britney was credited on S&M. Artists should not be able to pad their stats simply by tagging along on another's song. So Ariana on Save Your Tears, Bieber on Despacito, Billy Ray Cyrus on Old Town Road, and Beyonce on Savage don't count even though the remixes have eclipsed the original by now? |
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Post by randomguy on May 30, 2021 0:53:47 GMT -5
Y’all should just stream this ‘stan twitter‘ song instead because the lyrics dive into some of the points of this week’s chart drama.
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Post by jodakyellow on May 30, 2021 1:18:18 GMT -5
To me, if you were not originally on the song, it shouldn't count. It's not just BTS. I felt that way ever since Britney was credited on S&M. Artists should not be able to pad their stats simply by tagging along on another's song. So Ariana on Save Your Tears, Bieber on Despacito, Billy Ray Cyrus on Old Town Road, and Beyonce on Savage don't count even though the remixes have eclipsed the original by now? Lol I misread that as “Beyoncé on Perfect” and was ready to disagree that anyone cared about that particular remix lol |
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Post by Enigma. on May 30, 2021 5:41:38 GMT -5
Crazy to think BTS will have half as many #1 hits as Bruno Mars, who took a decade to achieve 8 #1 singles That's very weirdly put, as there are several gigantic all time superstars that have less #1's than Bruno Mars (Prince, Queen, Barbra Streisand, David Bowie, Lady Gaga, Kanye West, Taylor Swift...) I would even say Bruno has "too many" number ones considering his impact, but it's all opinions. |
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Post by jenglisbe on May 30, 2021 5:51:21 GMT -5
Crazy to think BTS will have half as many #1 hits as Bruno Mars, who took a decade to achieve 8 #1 singles The general public can still sing Bruno songs, which is the real victory. |
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Post by kiddo1994 on May 30, 2021 6:02:55 GMT -5
Does that mean Olivia is ahead? Olivia is ahead in consumption units.. that's why she's no,1 in RS Billboard is not consumption chart and they're giving Radio and Digital Sales too much weight.. so with those fraudulent manipulated sales, Butter will go no.1 methinks.. unless BB does something |
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Post by spiritboy on May 30, 2021 6:05:54 GMT -5
Olivia already got her #1 so i don't know why people are mad at BTS fans for trying to make the song debut at #1. It's not like they will try to break OTR record for most weeks at #1. :kii:
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Post by kiddo1994 on May 30, 2021 6:08:06 GMT -5
Olivia already got her #1 so i don't know why people are mad at BTS fans for trying to make the song debut at #1. It's not like they will try to break OTR record for most weeks at #1.  because Good 4 U is realistically the most popular song of the week and a double no.1 (BB200 & H100) or triple no.1 (Artist 100, H100 & BB200) will be a nice accolade for Olivia? |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on May 30, 2021 6:10:17 GMT -5
Olivia already got her #1 so i don't know why people are mad at BTS fans for trying to make the song debut at #1. It's not like they will try to break OTR record for most weeks at #1. Charts arent about taking turns. If it were, the songs OTR blocked shouldve gotten their number one. |
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Post by GP on May 30, 2021 7:06:06 GMT -5
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Post by GP on May 30, 2021 7:09:12 GMT -5
Olivia already got her #1 so i don't know why people are mad at BTS fans for trying to make the song debut at #1. It's not like they will try to break OTR record for most weeks at #1. it's not about any peak, it's about Butter just not being the #1 song of the week. It's literally below any SOUR album track rn.. |
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Post by monkeydluffy on May 30, 2021 8:51:57 GMT -5
That hate they are getting on twitter, being called dog eaters, ch*nks, chinese bottoms, coronovirus, etc by Olivia stans and all those other losers who are token stanning her for no reason at all is getting worse and worse. And then they hide behind Olivia being poc when she is completely white passing and no GP knows she is like 10% filo. I didn't want to comment on anything posted by you ever again and I'm not gonna bother disproving the whole "good 4 u is only strong in one metric" bs, everyone else has already done that, or the fact that selling outstadiums has nothing to do with the charts (although who's to say that Olivia won't sell out when concerts start). But how f**king dare you. How f**king dare you try and pretend to be against xenophobia and racism against Asians and then deny someone's race. How f**king dare you try and make a point by how chart success in some way fights against anti-Asian sentiments. And how dare you also try and paint Olivia's stans as being collectively racist when ARMY stans (who are bigger and louder) have been attacking her and making racist comments as well. You can deny it all you want, but if you're allowed to generalize Olivia stans as being racist, why can't I do the same with ARMY? As an Asian, this is f**king disrespectful, crude and worst of all, antithetical. You don't make you or ARMY stans look good by doing this s**t. You only make yourselves and the movement worse by dragging it and trying to relate it to chart games. You embarrass everyone involved. You wanna call out Pulse for being racist? How bout you first apologize to the many Asian members on Pulse I hope that $100K y'all spent that could've been donate towards Pro-Asian orgs and charities was worth all this nonsense Yooooo post of the year sheesh. Dremolus deserves a pulse award for that. I’m 20% Japanese but I look 100% white, would that mean I’m not Asian of any merit? For real, what an obnoxious post. Also, love how they never apologized or commented on anything you said and ignored it like it never happened LOL what a joke |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on May 30, 2021 8:58:22 GMT -5
To be fair, though, Savage Love should not count as a #1 for BTS. In my book, BTS has 2 #1's, and Butter would be the 3rd. That song would not have gone #1 without BTS tho, so you shouldn't be counting it as a #1 for anyone if you feel that way. It’s the chart equivalent of working on a group project where you and a couple other classmates pulled two all-nighters in a row, researching, writing, editing and then 20 minutes before it’s due, the other classmate who contributed nothing yet jumps in and says, “hey, you can use my printer!” They all get an A+. |
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on May 30, 2021 9:19:44 GMT -5
Does that mean Olivia is ahead? Olivia is ahead in consumption units.. that's why she's no,1 in RS Billboard is not consumption chart and they're giving Radio and Digital Sales too much weight.. so with those fraudulent manipulated sales, Butter will go no.1 methinks.. unless BB does something I personally think streaming and radio are weighed perfectly. Sales are the problem. Billboard could start by removing website sales from the Hot 100 calculation. |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on May 30, 2021 9:52:55 GMT -5
I didn't want to comment on anything posted by you ever again and I'm not gonna bother disproving the whole "good 4 u is only strong in one metric" bs, everyone else has already done that, or the fact that selling outstadiums has nothing to do with the charts (although who's to say that Olivia won't sell out when concerts start). But how f**king dare you. How f**king dare you try and pretend to be against xenophobia and racism against Asians and then deny someone's race. How f**king dare you try and make a point by how chart success in some way fights against anti-Asian sentiments. And how dare you also try and paint Olivia's stans as being collectively racist when ARMY stans (who are bigger and louder) have been attacking her and making racist comments as well. You can deny it all you want, but if you're allowed to generalize Olivia stans as being racist, why can't I do the same with ARMY? As an Asian, this is f**king disrespectful, crude and worst of all, antithetical. You don't make you or ARMY stans look good by doing this s**t. You only make yourselves and the movement worse by dragging it and trying to relate it to chart games. You embarrass everyone involved. You wanna call out Pulse for being racist? How bout you first apologize to the many Asian members on Pulse I hope that $100K y'all spent that could've been donate towards Pro-Asian orgs and charities was worth all this nonsense Yooooo post of the year sheesh. Dremolus deserves a pulse award for that. I’m 20% Japanese but I look 100% white, would that mean I’m not Asian of any merit? For real, what an obnoxious post. Also, love how they never apologized or commented on anything you said and ignored it like it never happened LOL what a joke They're afraid I might smoke their ass again 😈 But for real though, the comment about her being white-passing is even more offensive when you remember that she's only 18. Like...how many teenagers of mixed heritage have a fully formed idea of their racial identity by the time they can go to college? Let alone how to "properly" express it publicly. |
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Post by Soulsista on May 30, 2021 10:30:33 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 60, 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:
May 29, 1961 (For the week ending June 3)
01 05 Travelin' Man - Ricky Nelson (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 03 Daddy's Home - Shep & The Limelites
03 07 Running Scared - Roy Orbison
04 06 Mama Said - The Shirelles
05 01 Mother-In-Law - Ernie K-Doe
06 02 Runaway - Del Shannon
07 08 Breakin' In a Brand New Broken Heart - Connie Francis
08 04 One Hundred Pounds Of Clay - Gene McDaniels
09 17 I Feel So Bad - Elvis Presley
10 16 Tragedy - The Fleetwoods
15 38 Raindrops - Dee Clark
June 4, 1966
01 01 When a Man Loves a Woman - Percy Sledge (2nd and final week at #1)
02 02 A Groovy Kind Of Love - The Mindbenders
03 04 Paint It Black - The Rolling Stones
04 07 Did You Ever Have To Make Up Your Mind - The Lovin' Spoonful
05 06 I Am a Rock - Simon & Garfunkel
06 03 Monday, Monday - The Mamas & The Papas
07 05 Rainy Day Women Nos. 12 & 35 - Bob Dylan
08 10 It's a Man's Man's Man's World - James Brown
09 12 Green Grass - Gary Lewis & The Playboys
10 27 Strangers In The Night - Frank Sinatra
23 49 You Don't Have To Say You Love Me - Dusty Springfield
June 5, 1971
01 01 Brown Sugar - The Rolling Stones (2nd and final week at #1)
02 02 Joy To The World - Three Dog Night
03 04 Want Ads - Honey Cone
04 05 It Don't Come Easy - Ringo Starr
05 11 Rainy Days And Mondays - The Carpenters
06 07 Bridge Over Troubled Water / Brand New Me
07 08 Sweet And Innocent - Donny Osmond
08 03 Never Can Say Goodbye - The Jackson 5
09 21 It's Too Late / I Feel The Earth Move - Carole King
10 09 Me And You And a Dog Named Boo - Lobo
June 5, 1976
01 01 Love Hangover - Diana Ross (2nd and final week at #1)
02 02 Silly Love Songs - Wings
03 04 Get Up And Boogie (That's Right) - Silver Convention
04 05 Misty Blue - Dorothy Moore
05 06 Happy Days - Pratt & McClain
06 08 Shannon - Henry Gross
07 07 Welcome Back - John Sebastian
08 09 Sara Smile - Daryl Hall & John Oates
09 14 Shop Around - The Captain & Tennille
10 11 Fool To Cry - The Rolling Stones
June 6, 1981
01 01 Bette Davis Eyes - Kim Carnes (4th of 9 weeks at #1)
02 02 Being With You - Smokey Robinson
03 03 Stars On 45 (Medley) - Stars On 45
04 04 Sukiyaki - A Taste Of Honey
05 05 Take It On The Run - REO Speedwagon
06 06 Living Inside Myself - Gino Vannelli
07 08 A Woman Needs Love (Just Like You Do) - Ray Parker Jr. & Raydio
08 07 Just The Two Of Us - Grover Washington Jr. w/Bill Withers
09 12 America - Neil Diamond
10 11 Sweetheart - Frankie & The Knockouts
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Post by GP on May 30, 2021 10:31:49 GMT -5
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Post by lazer on May 30, 2021 10:38:31 GMT -5
No different than that popcentaur user.
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on May 30, 2021 10:38:33 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 60, 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago: June 6, 198101 01 Bette Davis Eyes - Kim Carnes (4th of 9 weeks at #1)02 02 Being With You - Smokey Robinson 03 03 Stars On 45 (Medley) - Stars On 45 04 04 Sukiyaki - A Taste Of Honey 05 05 Take It On The Run - REO Speedwagon 06 06 Living Inside Myself - Gino Vannelli 07 08 A Woman Needs Love (Just Like You Do) - Ray Parker Jr. & Raydio 08 07 Just The Two Of Us - Grover Washington Jr. w/Bill Withers 09 12 America - Neil Diamond 10 11 Sweetheart - Frankie & The Knockouts I'm impressed we had a week pre-SoundScan era with the whole top 5 being the exact same as the week before. It's so rare to happen these days, let alone back then. |
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Post by Soulsista on May 30, 2021 10:45:05 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:
June 7, 1986
01 02 Live To Tell - Madonna (1st and only week at #1)
02 03 On My Own - Patti LaBelle & Michael McDonald
03 01 Greatest Love Of All - Whitney Houston
04 05 I Can't Wait - Nu Shooz
05 06 All I Need Is a Miracle - Mike & The Mechanics
06 04 If You Leave - Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark
07 07 Something About You - Level 42
08 11 Crush On You - The Jets
09 13 There'll Be Sad Songs (To Make You Cry) - Billy Ocean
10 15 A Different Corner - George Michael
June 8, 1991
01 02 More Than Words - Extreme (1st and only week at #1)
02 03 I Wanna Sex You Up - Color Me Badd
03 05 Rush Rush - Paula Abdul
04 01 I Don't Wanna Cry - Mariah Carey
05 04 Love Is a Wonderful Thing - Michael Bolton
06 07 Losing My Religion - R.E.M.
07 06 I Like The Way (The Kissing Game) - Hi-Five
08 12 Unbelievable - EMF
09 11 Miracle - Whitney Houston
10 17 Power Of Love / Love Power - Luther Vandross
June 8, 1996
01 01 Tha Crossroads - Bone Thugs-n-Harmony (4th of 8 weeks at #1)
02 02 Always Be My Baby - Mariah Carey
03 03 Because You Loved Me - Celine Dion
04 05 Give Me One Reason - Tracy Chapman
05 06 You're The One - SWV
06 04 Nobody Knows - The Tony Rich Project
07 NE You're Makin' Me High / Let It Flow - Toni Braxton
08 08 Fastlove - George Michael
09 07 Ironic - Alanis Morissette
10 NE Until It Sleeps - Metallica
16 NE Why I Love You So Much / Ain't Nobody - Monica
June 2, 2001
01 03 Lady Marmalade - Christina Aguilera, Lil Kim, Mya & P!nk (1st of 5 weeks at #1)
02 01 All For You - Janet Jackson
03 02 Survivor - Destiny's Child
04 04 Hanging By a Moment - Lifehouse
05 05 Ride Wit Me - Nelly feat. City Spud
06 06 Follow Me - Uncle Kracker
07 16 Fiesta - R. Kelly feat. Jay-Z
08 07 Thank You - Dido
09 10 Get Ur Freak On - Missy Elliott
10 08 What Would You Do? - City High
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on May 30, 2021 10:53:09 GMT -5
Wow! Metallica getting a #10 debut in 1996 - I had no idea about it!
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Post by annoymous1 on May 30, 2021 10:55:20 GMT -5
Lady Marmalade aged really well.
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Post by Choco on May 30, 2021 10:55:36 GMT -5
That hate they are getting on twitter, being called dog eaters, ch*nks, chinese bottoms, coronovirus, etc by Olivia stans and all those other losers who are token stanning her for no reason at all is getting worse and worse. And then they hide behind Olivia being poc when she is completely white passing and no GP knows she is like 10% filo. I didn't want to comment on anything posted by you ever again and I'm not gonna bother disproving the whole "good 4 u is only strong in one metric" bs, everyone else has already done that, or the fact that selling outstadiums has nothing to do with the charts (although who's to say that Olivia won't sell out when concerts start). But how f**king dare you. How f**king dare you try and pretend to be against xenophobia and racism against Asians and then deny someone's race. How f**king dare you try and make a point by how chart success in some way fights against anti-Asian sentiments. And how dare you also try and paint Olivia's stans as being collectively racist when ARMY stans (who are bigger and louder) have been attacking her and making racist comments as well. You can deny it all you want, but if you're allowed to generalize Olivia stans as being racist, why can't I do the same with ARMY? As an Asian, this is f**king disrespectful, crude and worst of all, antithetical. You don't make you or ARMY stans look good by doing this s**t. You only make yourselves and the movement worse by dragging it and trying to relate it to chart games. You embarrass everyone involved. You wanna call out Pulse for being racist? How bout you first apologize to the many Asian members on Pulse I hope that $100K y'all spent that could've been donate towards Pro-Asian orgs and charities was worth all this nonsense omg the burn. Good job. |
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on May 30, 2021 11:05:18 GMT -5
Lady Marmalade aged really well. One of the few instances where the remake was just as good as the original. Labelle first brought it to #1 in 1975. |
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Post by Soulsista on May 30, 2021 11:07:18 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 Flashback:
June 3, 2006
01 03 Ridin' - Chamillionaire feat. Krayzie Bone (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 02 Bad Day - Daniel Powter
03 01 SOS - Rihanna
04 04 Temperature - Sean Paul
05 05 Where'd You Go - Fort Minor feat. Holly Brook & Jonah Matranga
06 06 Dani California - The Red Hot Chili Peppers
07 07 Snap Yo Fingers - Lil Jon feat. E-40 & Sean P
08 10 Over My Head (Cable Car) - The Fray
09 30 Promiscuous - Nelly Furtado feat. Timbaland
10 08 What You Know - T.I.
13 38 Me & U - Cassie
June 4, 2011
01 01 Rolling In The Deep - Adele (3rd of 7 weeks at #1)
02 02 E.T. - Katy Perry feat. Kanye West
03 04 Give Me Everything - Pitbull feat. Ne-Yo, Afrojack & Nayer
04 05 Just Can't Get Enough - The Black Eyed Peas
05 06 On The Floor - Jennifer Lopez feat. Pitbull
06 07 The Lazy Song - Bruno Mars
07 08 Till The World Ends - Britney Spears
08 20 Party Rock Anthem - LMFAO feat. Lauren Bennett & Goonrock
09 12 The Show Goes On - Lupe Fiasco
10 09 Look At Me Now - Chris Brown feat. Lil Wayne & Busta Rhymes
12 NE Hair - Lady Gaga
June 4, 2016
01 02 One Dance - Drake feat. Wizkid & Kyla (2nd of 10 weeks at #1)
02 03 Panda - Desiigner
03 01 Can't Stop The Feeling! - Justin Timberlake
04 04 7 Years - Lukas Graham
05 06 Work From Home - Fifth Harmony feat. Ty Dolla $ign
06 07 Don't Let Me Down - The Chainsmokers feat. Daya
07 05 I Took a Pill In Ibiza - Mike Posner
08 08 Work - Rihanna feat. Drake
09 09 PILLOWTALK - Zayn
10 10 Needed Me - Rihanna
June 6, 2020
01 NE Rain On Me - Lady Gaga & Ariana Grande (1st and only week at #1)
02 01 Savage - Megan Thee Stallion feat. Beyonce
03 04 ROCKSTAR - DaBaby feat. Roddy Ricch
04 03 Blinding Lights - The Weeknd
05 02 Say Do - Doja Cat
06 05 Toosie Slide - Drake
07 08 Don't Start Now - Dua Lipa
08 07 The Box - Roddy Ricch
09 09 Intentions - Justin Bieber feat. Quavo
10 06 Life Is Good - Future feat. Drake
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on May 30, 2021 11:19:19 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2021/05/30
1(=) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak & Silk Sonic - Leave The Door Open 110.12(-1.26)
2(=) Justin Bieber - Peaches (feat. Daniel Caesar & GIVĒON) 108.15(+1.12) +
3(=) Dua Lipa - Levitating (feat. DaBaby) 83.78(+0.06)
4(=) The Weeknd & Ariana Grande - Save Your Tears (Remix) 82.51(-0.85)
5(=) The Kid LAROI & Miley Cyrus - WITHOUT YOU (Miley Cyrus Remix) 65.72(-0.06)
6(=) Ariana Grande - pov 54.64(-0.16)
7(+1) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More (feat. SZA) 51.27(+0.81)
8(-) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights 51.15(-1.35)
9(=) Maroon 5 & Megan Thee Stallion - Beautiful Mistakes 50.12(-0.20)
10(+1) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 46.50(+0.98)
12(+1) Dylan Scott - Nobody 46.03(+0.72) 64(+8) BTS - Butter (Hotter Remix) 20.64(+1.10) 100(+14) Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u 12.89(+1.86)
-(-) Marshmello & Jonas Brothers - Leave Before You Love Me 10.86(+0.64)
-(-) J. Cole, 21 Savage & Morray - m y . l i f e 5.22(+0.60)
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